Mangadex funeral

cont from TLDR mangadex.org/compliance/copyright-faq MangaDex confirms nuking of 7000+ titles, handed over control to NamiComi, basically dead as of this.

Discuss alternatives, dump shit, ask shit.

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vxvAHxmLLgAEEq-jWbDw5fxHMdz1N_PNWe3OPXtrin0/htmlview?gid=0#gid=0
1682 of the 7000 titles

Reminder that Steamcucks and Anon Babbletards lost last thread

What happened to chinchiro_addict? I want new Hanchou chapters, if you're here will you please tell me if you'll scanlate more and where?

uhh, I'm glad these pirates got what they deserved.

Hope they shut down, westoids don't deserve shit. Japanese are right.

this, but unironically. Did you retards think you'd get away with it like Crunchyroll? Authors will only stop getting axed when pirates are stamped out.

lol

Cubari?

Moving to Comick is good, every scanlation group asking you to join their discord is stupid.

somebody tell Anon Babble to make a MD clone already.

It's so over, but 150 chapters is plenty, thank him for me if you meet him again

Moving to Comick is good, every scanlation group asking you to join their discord is stupid.

Nearly all the group leaders I've seen have been talking about moving to comick, so my bet is that it's going to be the next big scanlation hub.
Only thing that sucks is since they host official releases, you won't be able to link there in the manga subplebbit.
Not that the manga subplebbit has been relevant in years, but still it's the biggest community.

Anon Babble

Indians only care about anime featuring white haired elves and korean isekai. They don't read manga.

As a host, we're unable to provide advanced warning. Uploaders are made aware once the content has been taken down, and they have 14 days to file a counterclaim to reinstate the content.

That's a lie.

For the size of the website and the community, the core team is small, and we have to prioritise our time well.

This is like less than 300 words long.

sheesh please stay away from c____ . don't let it become the next hub.
it's a great pirate site full of official scans. don't invite attention there.

We can all agree now that manhwa is superior to manga, right?

Will do, I have him on my discord so I'll tell him the next time I talk to him.

They are in the process of becoming vibe coders right now, anyone who trusts them with anything is gigantic retard

I thought Anon Babble was mostly AIfags now

Thank you for your help

You just repeated what I said but in a different way.

sheesh please stay away from c____ . don't let it become the next hub.

it's a great pirate site full of official scans. don't invite attention there.

what does that matter, piracy is piracy
if nothing else it's actually better because then you can finally find everything at one place
and also fitting since then it harms the industry more, they made this bed, now they can lie down on it. it's what they deserve honestly

Anon Babble

Modern Anon Babble is worst than modern Anon Babble. A board full of retarded shills.

I really liked that we could see the covers of the tanks...it's the small things I will miss.

Anon Babble Niggit seethe as the second reply

You can't win the war, kubo. Toyo's opus is returning in 3 months.

It is, but not in a bad way. The ai threads are the only threads on modern g where shit gets done.

Baki is safe

Garouden is safe

Retsu isekai is safe

Everything is fine, seems only troon stuff got wiped

implying every board here except diy is nothing but shills

Lol. Kek-lmao even.

Baki

Retsu

Not for troons

This is your brain as a weeb

Just use mihon and add 10s of other sources

Kouya is safe too

Very true.

The only thing I learned through the years of shutdowns is to never keep your bookmarks on the sites themselves, but only on the trackers. Rebuilding my library after the first time shit like this happened was absolute hell.

Anon Babble turned into an AI board

Anon Babble is nothing but crypto/blockchain/NFTs

What happened? Neither were intended to be their original purposes. Specifically interested in Anon Babble because my understanding is that it was supposed to be a business-related board and not a crypto board.

Most of the other sources rip from MD anyway. That's why I keep saying that MD's nuking is not the end of the world since almost all of the nuked content is available elsewhere anyway.

Should've put in edition as well to make it surefire that it'd be killed by the mods.

stupid reddnigger

Learn to torrent
Learn to torrent
Learn to torrent

What happened?

Wake up, Mr. Freeman.

Anon Babble wants to get rich asap with minimum effort

Anything different now than when Batoto died? Honestly at this point I really wonder if the cycle will ever end, at least I don't see any kind of tech that will break it.

Learn to torrent lol

Sorry, I don't understand Anon Babble or Anon Babble lingo.

Most of the other sources rip from MD anyway.

Trannylators and those series will just move to next source and you can just use that source

Please, a moment of laughter for all those scanlators who dropped a series after it was licensed in the west, thinking those companies gave a single shit about their compliance.

Still have to migrate all of it

Why won't they release a list of all the manga they've taken down?

I'm still mad that Circle Scans dropped Himegasaki Sakurako even though it will take forever for Seven Seas to catch up. Isn't Circle Scans an affiliate of CClaw Translations, which does the same thing?

I feel like it's good to just have a refresh and start anew honestly. I had like 1k manga bookmarked, and probably half of them I'd never even started to read.

I'll make the logo!

mangadex is trash, who cares lol?

Torrenting manga is a hassle. The only thing I bother torrenting is official releases from nyaa. Otherwise readers are just so much more practical.
There's a reason #lurk died, and it wasn't because of dmcas. Readers were just so much more convenient.

Too busy dilating

1995

Why are literal children allowed to post on the internet?

When Batoto died IIRC people lost their reading list as well. I remember I had to reconstruct most of it on mangaupdate.

With Mangadex your reading list is still there, so migrating elsewhere is less tedious.

I dunno why Mangadex couldn't just switch to simply being an easier to read mangaupdate, just inform people when new TL are out and let them find it where they find it, it's not like they were making money off ads between pages.

Anon, people born in 2007 can legally post on Anon Babble now.

Mangahelpers died in 2010, Batoto in 2018, and now Mangadex in 2025. There seems to be a 7-8 year old cycle or something where they break down on the big scanlation hubs.
It matters a bit more when the scanlation hubs get hit compared to the leecher aggregators, because tons of scanlation groups quit and the community gets decentralized for a while. After batoto it was mostly madokami that worked out for a while, but tons of stuff were just dropped.

mfw been studying Japanese since the proto-DJT on Anon Babble 15 years ago

You have only yourself to blame for relying on scanlations

It's a waste of time working on licensed series, I'd rather work on something where I don't just do wasted work and effort. When the official releases are out no one is ever going to care about your scanlation again.

Yeah I hate reading manga through any source other than just directly through a mihon source. It's why I never read manga in the first place. Reading on my computer sucks. Converting it and moving it over to my tablet sucks. I've just always found it to be a painful experience.

Scanlation are easier to find for free than Japanese raws.

just inform people when new TL are out and let them find it where they find it

Ah, I remember when I had to use an extension to link to their scanlators.

It's all well and good until a said series only releases official physical books. And then the scanlation leeches are fucked.

That's why I buy manga.

1000s?

Yes.

If you know how to navigate chinese sites they are really not.

It's 2007 and has been for the last 18 years.

nowadays it's the 90s babies making posts like this

No you don't you dumbass faggot

I have 4730 volumes from 1412 series on BW alone.

come to our discord

is just the worst.

Now that Discord is going public, it's going to be funny as fuck when they start cracking down on all the scanlation groups at the behest of major corporations.

Apparently all the new stuff from SSTALKER got nuked and Neco, another Anon Babblenon got the whole group nuked in mangadex. Even doujins got nuked.

I have a whole wall of manga in my bedroom. Fight me, faggot.

Borderline bizarre how much of a mess official English translations are, all manga I read are published by different publishers, the most bizarre one is INKR, you pay $5 a month for it and you can't even read the Manga, you need to buy the volumes with their own currency afterwards.

Honestly nearly everything you can find for free, only thing is that some have water marks but that doesn't matter if you're just reading for yourself. Hell, I even used raws with watermarks here the other day because I couldn't be bothered with buying and ripping something myself. It was just a couple of omakes though.
What I can't find I just buy if I want it or need it honestly. I almost buy everything for scanlation since I prefer ripping myself (unless in cases like mentioned). I even buy a magazine nobody rips just to read one manga. Don't really see the issue, it's not like I'm a poorfag from a third world country, I can pay for the things I really want to read.

This is what all the old retarded grognards on Anon Babble wanted. Make sure to thank them.

Mangadex was already blocked in my country so I could never really use it, but it's always sad when stuff like this happens.

abloobloo raws are just IMPOSSIBLE to find

Every fucking thread.

genuinely curious about the "community focused" philosophy of mangadex
when did it change?
the owners obviously sold themselves

Reminder that if you don't have it thoroughly backed up it can be taken away from you at any moment

Post it faggot

I don't think it's necessarily all that bad, people have been mindlessly consuming a lot of stuff just because it's been easily accesible. Now they might start being a bit more picky if they actually have to put some effort in to read it, might discuss it a bit more, and most important enjoy it a bit more.

Wall of manga is a few dozen series at most.

Moron.

It was never really community focused, you can read like five six year old posts by the admins where they write that their main goal was going legit like crunchy/fakku. Didn't work out since publishers didn't want to work with them and had their own plans obviously.
Then it basically became advertisement for their own shitty OC and namicomi, and most likely now they'll nuke most of all the manga and push the OC even more.
The site is dead Jim. Unless you're interested in shitty weaboo western comics, there's really nothing left for mangadex. It's going to be deader than mangahelpers.

Before I joined Mangadex, I used the MangaRock definitive app to read manga, it was really good, but it also god nuked, and the owners turned it into what is now known as INKR

What’s the best way to grab all of my followed titles off of MD, I don’t need chapter downloads I just need a list of names

God there is a new site that will come up that I'll be tempted to join now.
Just when I felt I had finally found my release.

I never got a message either actually, did anyone else get one?

Tsugumomo's still there, grab em' while you can

Maybe all the branrot escapism reading to just get away from your thoughts and feelings wasn't all that great.

That's nice, but I prefer reading physical over digital, so ripping it would be a downgrade for me.

Don't have to.

It's doubled stacked. I haven't counted, but it must be over 2000 by now.

All of it is still available on aggregators you stupid nigger.

What’s the best way to grab all of my followed titles off of MD, I don’t need chapter downloads I just need a list of names

Somebody made a python script, that's probably the easiest. There's also some bookmarklet thingy. You can download it if you're not comfortable using scripts, but running executables like that is kind of bad internet habits 101.

At least this helps me clean up my manga list while moving to other sites, kinda sad so much is lost though in this process, didnt even think I had over 300+ titles added as reading etc.

I never got a message either actually, did anyone else get one?

I don't think anyone has received messages, at least I haven't in both my mail and account. They're just purged everything. Because, let's face it, you're completely pants on head retarded if you're going file file a counter.

community focused

It was basically a "scanlator first" site, where they were lord over the author, publisher and user. Scanlators had sole discretion on whether to keep scans up, take them down to hoard on their site, edit and replace them and so on so forth. Only mangaplus and viz got old scans taken down, and that was probably as courtesy to their translators. The only time a user was stronger than a scanlator was when the scanlator was Anon Babbletard who couldn't stop putting slurs in his scans, and he had to do it a lot before the leftists there could get him and his scans banned.

You're not the brightest bulb in the shed are you. What do you think is going to happen to a lot of new releases.

2000 series would be about 10000 volumes if we count just 5 volumes for each series. Bull fucking shit you have 10k books on your walls.

So they pulled a crunchy roll?

Well at least Comick seems decent enough.

They've also pulled down some other groups like lua scans because they hosted official releases on their own site.

What happened?

Were you retards in a coma last month?
No one wants to do anything beneficial for a site run by people who hate their users fucking guts.
The only people still doing that are the battered housewives on Anon Babble, most everyone of real value has abandoned Anon Babble and the people who remain are either worthless retards, shills, or a small sliver of people who are talented or smart but have no interest in contributing to the cancer the site has become even if they're still here occasionally discussing things.

They are going to be posted on discords and scanlators' own sites and will be stolen from there and reposted on aggregators just like what every SEA monkey has been doing for past 20 years. So you posting this retarded holier than thou larp is completely irrelevant. Fuck off, retard.

Comick and Weebcentral seem like good alternatives for now, just waiting on an easy way to export Mangadex lists and then we're golden.

They're trying at least.

Mercifully I have a short reading list so it hasn't been too difficult to transfer over. Helps I'm only into like 2 different genres too.

Uploading and replacing updates seems like a hassle over there.

Wonder how long that'll last now. Weebcentral used to be Mangasee before, that's also fine, it doesn't update as often though, Comick scraped stuff like every minutes, Weebcentral like twice a day.

Well at least Comick seems decent enough.

Yeah, I'd be surprised if Comick isn't the next big one. I've been saying it for a year or something already, so it came as no surprise to me that most people are transferring there. It's hosted in SEA so it should be pretty hard to take down, if not outright impossible.
Honestly I saw this coming like a year ago or something when Emaqi was released, they're going to flood the market with AI/MTL assisted releases of the stuff that were unlicensed pretty soon most likely. This was probably all to prepare for a shitton of official releases.
I think Scanlation in the form it's now will die, they just won't be able to compete with AI/MTL assisted official releases. Scanlation will probably just be for niche stuff and small publishers without offcial translations.

2000 books, not series.

Almost everything has been scraped from mangadex, there's probably no one who's been doing it manually for years.

Comick and Weebcentral seem like good alternatives for now, just waiting on an easy way to export Mangadex lists and then we're golden.

Can you upload releases to weebcentral? I know you can get permission to upload on comick if you ask in the discord.

Well that's very different now isn't it. The problem is finding raws of niche series, once you already know where to get them, then multiple volumes of a series are easy to get.

atrocious UI

vertical pages

Fuck Comick.

I don't think so, though that might change now

You're right that means they will stop doing it completely because it's been easier to do for couple years. How do you get out of bed daily without external help being this fucking stupid?

Where exactly is the problem when buying is the solution?

komikku has a mangadex sync and then you can just export yout list

Comick will be a temp solution until somebody does the legwork and makes a scanlation hub that 100% fills the void that Mangadex has left behind.

Moderation bots running on shitty AI.

Then why say that they send messages to uploaders to give them 14 days to respond?
Obviously you're retarded filing it if you have no standing, but what if you do? They make mistakes, what if say some pixiv title that the artist explicitly authorized for a translation got hit in it by accident and the uploader wants to make a counter claim, it's not that unforseeable that that happens. Or even a non-pixiv title actually published in a magazine.

They just send out some blanket report for any title they own obviously, but what if the contract with one of their artists says that the rights to authorize translations solely lie with the artist, and the artist actually authorized a fan-translation for non-commercial purpose only and the scanlator has evidence. It's not entirely impossible this could've happened at least oncee.

And then they’ll want complensation for that leg work in the form of “legitimate income” down the road and in 8 years we’ll be right back where we are now

Solution: move to Japan.

Settings is bottom right after you open a chapter, you can make it left to right or inverse if you want, though it's only 1-page right now, I'd like 2. Though of course you can just use it as a source and just read manga on Mihon instead, wouldn't have to deal with any UI issues that way.

They'll have to hire some pretty self hating pajeets then.

I am not going to buy each and every volume for 2000+ manga I read or want to re-read.

Comick will be a temp solution until somebody does the legwork and makes a scanlation hub that 100% fills the void that Mangadex has left behind.

Why would it be a temp solution? Tons of groups are already getting upload permission. It's not like madokami that just was a stop gap, there's no reason comick can't be the next big scanlation hub, especially since it's unlikely to be taken down since it's hosted somewhere dmcas and cease and desists mean literally nothing.

Solution: move to Japan.

djtguide.github.io/

Welp ignoring series' that were on indefinite hiatus due to either the translation or the original release the only series I was reading that got nuked was Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun but I did recently cull off a ton of my reading list myself

Many publishers put chapters up for free now if you bother following them or just suck it up and ignore the red watermarks, it's not that bad

I like ripping myself from volumes because a lot like those on comic walker and nico nico seiga have lower quality in a lot of cases.
Usually it's just lower resolution, but some of them are grainy too, especially the ones from dora dora sharp.

Yeah I know that, Mangadex itself had a link to all the latest official raws. But a lot still don't, if you try to find raws, you only get linked to a store asking you to buy the volumes.

Its just a matter of time, they are pretty much slowly nuking everything at this point.

I don't dislike comick but i wish it had categories like mangadex, when you got 1000s of manga you tend to not want to put everything in reading/plan to read but categories based on a primary tag (dex was shit that you couldn't filter in your own library).
But well, i still use tachiyomi for that anyway

If only it was that easy, globalization is a lie

It's just a matter of time until a different site takes over the mantle and will become even more popular than mangadex was, like how mangadex picked up the mantle from the old batoto and became much bigger than the old batoto.

Yeah, it's basically like mangahelpers. At first they just removed kodansha stuff, but it ended with nuking all the manga at the end. The only thing left is going to be OC content most likely.

MANGAdex

now shifting to user-made content and vertical webtoons to get around DMCAs over manga

So how long until MD shudders and their new owners start crying for community support, and how hard are we going to laugh at them?

And then something will arise from the ashes of the new site when it is killed.

Such is the way of things, these days.

Anon Babble isn't capable of making a website, when mangadex went down for months that one time they didn't get beyond well
this

I don't think it's necessarily all that bad

You will when Discord nukes all that shit (and anything else related to piracy, fangames, modding, or any other potential copyright headaches) later this year after their IPO.
And I'll be here laughing.

Tons of groups are already getting upload permission

Huge turnoff You need to go over their retarded Discord for that. I would like to just make an account and upload immediately after that.

I'm fairly certain they understand that the site is dead.
Paying for piracy is completely moronic in the first place. If you're going to spend money, you're better off buying the Japanese raws so your favorite mango doesn't get axed honestly.

Jobbing to jannies and the government

Not posting shit on multiple ips to piss off both

Lmaoing at your life

You probably joke, but that shart from that happening would be legendary.

But Anon, don't you want to read classics such as "TEKNO: Sci-Fi Shonen Manga"?

Dunno about that chief.

What happened?

t's just a matter of time until a different site takes over the mantle and will become even more popular than mangadex was, like how mangadex picked up the mantle from the old batoto and became much bigger than the old batoto.

Yeah, the next one is apparently comick. It's probably been on the writing on the wall for a while too, they were completely ready to capture the group leaders and people when mangadex fell.

if they end up becoming the new major hub they might just do without the need to ask for permission

spend millions buying a new house just to store all the manga you buy

spend tens of thousands on maintenance to ensure they don't yellow only to just let them sit there collecting dust and get consumed by book bugs

give up and purchase digital copies only to find that one day, the manga company has switched to a subscription service and you have to pay a monthly fee for each and every online chapter you have ever bought, except the AI they used to implement this also somehow got the files you need to use the computer, so you're permanently locked out

Huge turnoff You need to go over their retarded Discord for that. I would like to just make an account and upload immediately after that.

Yeah apparently it's on their to do list. I'm probably not going to upload there until they make it so I can do it without a discord invitation.

first thing I see is discord and reddit link at the top of the page

Fucking disgusting.

You probably joke

I do not.
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It'll be fucking glorious, I can't wait.
All those retarded children and third worlders who balk about "convenience" are about to get absolutely fucked in the ass for their stupidity, it's going to be fucking amazing.

It's probably less work just uploading stuff yourself than doing the moderation the mangadex crew did. And then he can just not upload stuff with bad quality like MTL scanlations.

Why don't just decentralize scanlations and leave centralization to third party apps?
this is what happens when you put all the eggs in one basket

a) Anon Babble sucks at making shit.
b) The hard part of making a manga reader is skirting the legal side of things.

Who the fuck cares, I download my manga

Honestly discord is just irc with streaming, people should just start using irc again.

Big scanlation groups who have their own sites like LHT for example will be fine, but small ones who don't are really fucked since they don't have the income to host their own site. Pretty fucked.

You wouldn't download a manga

first they tell me to learn japanese to read manga

now I have to learn chinese to navigate the manga sites

May as well fucking throw in korean as well so I can understand when they all start bitching at each other again.

That's exactly why anon said they shouldn't have relied on a centralized platform.
All these scanlation groups nowadays seem to be run exclusively by retards.

Neither were intended to be their original purposes.

Remind me of the original purpose of Anon Babble again.

So you're in favor of paywalling scanlations so that the small groups can afford to maintain a website?

Discord is IRC except all the servers are owned by the same entity.
And that entity will soon be run by Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan.

have to join Discord to get upload permissions

downsampled images

no dedicated page to see the latest updates for your followed series

shitty UI in general

comments FULL of actual zoomers and thirdies

Comick is fine for casual reading but I really hope it doesn't become the new long term hub. Downsampling images on its own is enough to disqualify it.

Congrats, now please join 1000 different discords

spend millions buying a new house just to store all the manga you buy

You lost me here

The problem is that nobody can coordinate to make decentralization happen ideally, which would be having all eggs in multiple baskets. Instead some eggs go missing, go bad, or break.

I often forget how painful it is to buy actual volumes, and these are goddamn digital.

Scanlations already paywalled their shit when they were doing nothing but hosting a Discord server (also soon to be cracked down on now that Discord is going public).

Manga is really cheap. It's only like $10 at most for a single volume, and that's like 1-2 hours of reading material right there. Much more cost effective than movies of even most video-games, plus physical books don't require anything except adequate lighting.

Haha, that's good actually. With all the attention Comick is getting, it's good to have an alternative that's not too open.

Can't we like, unironically, just upload chapters to archive.org? Sure it's slow as hell, and searching and keeping track of series is basically non existent, but it has a book viewer, and I don't think you can easily DMCA stuff in there.

Cubari link from a catbox host and posted to Reddit unironically seems like the best option at the moment, but I really don't want to use Reddit. Just looking at the front page of their manga forum, they have absolutely dogshit taste, not even mentioning the comment section.

downsampled images

I thought this was one of the rare websites that didn't lower the image quality?

Gookshit site

I rather stop reading manga

pretty much what you'd expect, they made some threads about making an alternative, but it fizzled out after like 2 weeks.

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Yeah, no way.

comick.io/comic/reincarnation-coliseum

Much more cost effective than movies of even most video-games

Movies sure, but not video games.
Of the last few games I've bought:

Beyond Citadel - $13, played ~8 hours total

Dolls Nest - $20, played ~10 hours total

Samurai Bringer - $13, played ~14 hours total

Metal Bringer - $13, played ~7 hours total

Labyrinth of the Demon King - $16, played ~3 hours so far

Apparently not, people have been saying they compress images quite aggressively

It's only "cheap" if you're buying the volumes over time, not all at once. And that's just for one series.

MD got really bad in the last year with mass uploads of MTL/watermarked garbage from long time uploaders with elevated privileges. I seriously think some were being paid by the cashgrab MTL groups.

when fansub went from hobby to "I do it for money".

Oh, yep, definitely not using this site now.

The funniest part of that is the big discord and reddit logo at the bottom of the screen.

Isn't it usually cheaper to buy in bulk though?

The manga subreddit lost relevancy the second they decided to hide the sub from r/all because they couldn't handle the flaming whenever some coomer/pedobait made it to r/all and normalfags would start trashing the manga being discussed.

NamiComi literally owns MangaDex

LOL that's what happens when you host a pirate site in a country suspectible to DMCAs. How the mighty have fallen. Time to find another site.

The real solution is a torrent tracker and a site that reads local files from webtorrent, but that's somehow a massive filter for the average user. It would remove all liability from the sites, and drastically reduce the overhead.

Will we have a "main manga hosting site" that ends on dot com ever again?

I don't understand the whole thing about making uploaders check a "I swear I'm allowed to upload that" box, I'm pretty sure it doesn't make anything both for them or Mangadew any more or less illegal than it already was.

this is the correct answer

See

Weebcentral

The last time I checked, they're both downscaling pages and converting them from PNG to JPEG.

We don't need some fancy overengineered web 3.0 shit that no one will ever bother building, let alone using. All we really need is MD but without retards and cowards running the show.

But well, i still use tachiyomi for that anyway

Why are you even complaining about it in the first place?

So how long until comick takes over and then dmcas like mangadex did and caves in?

I just want to say that I made one of my best desitions in my life 2 years ago when I started to learn Japanese, Knowing that the golden era of TLs was long finished. Now I don't have to worry about this tragedy.

It's already in a death spiral unless they do something drastic. They won't be able to be used for piracy but can't go legit, so they won't serve any purpose.

Human eyes can only see 18fps anyway

Yeah, the official manga system is complete shit compared to getting anime legally

It's clear that the faggots who run the site are hoping to get a sweetheart a legal manga platform distributor. Hell, this was probably the plan the entire time, get big enough that you can't be ignored and then become the bitch of some publisher.

So glad I refused to "stream" manga and worked on my Manga Plex app instead

Stop being retarded and poor.

While we are at it, why can't English publishers use tankobon format? Why it's always those huge ugly volumes?

At least you can buy them. Try to get into a longer-running series (20+ volumes) with physicals and you'll be able to buy volume 1, maybe volume 2 and then the latest three volumes.

lets mangadex deny legal responsibility and throw the uploader under the bus instead i think

Is there a script to export MDLists?

Retard

Manga is really cheap. It's only like $10 at most for a single volume, and that's like 1-2 hours of reading material right there.

I timed myself reading a Kisekoi volume and it was maybe like 40 minutes of reading. It's really not that cheap.

There's a couple js torrent clients floating around. I feel like something might work but try explaining to lawyers that you don't actually host anything and all the content is just passed around.

It takes 5 seconds to make a throwaway email, get the account verified and never have to use that email account ever again.

5 months

I don't understand why more websites don't use webtorrents. It would take a lot of the load off the server.

How is it overengineered? This is nearly 20 year old technology I'm talking about. Brave browser comes with webtorrent installed by default. All you have to do is when a user clicks upload on a chapter it instead creates a torrent file with a tracker address, opens that in your browser, and instead of a chapter link users get a link to that torrent. The only new thing I'm asking for is that your site reads that downloaded local file instead of hosting it directly.

Came to see what's all the drama about

Anon Babblefags and reddit users are the most suffering and posting itt

Disgusting, the mere thought of me interacting with these people on Anon Babble is repusling

No, I don't think I will.

Maybe if you buy a boxset. Otherwise it's not any cheaper and you won't really even get any benefits from shipping because a bunch of books takes space and weighs too.

webtorrent

wow, webtorret mentioned, i did a concept on neocities (stakeoverflow copy/paste), 20 ugly lines and it works.

Were do you read the raws?

You can hide the UI and change the settings to 1-page instead of Vertical. Other than the chapter select page, it's just like Mangadex in every way

I give it a year at most.
Any piracy site openly advertising their subreddit or Discord is going to get absolutely fucked.

This is the dumbest shit I've read in years, you legit a 30 IQ drooling retard.

It makes perfect sense if you consider it as a measure introduced from NamiComi taking over the platform instead of as a band aid for how to try to keep the platform viable as a manga hub.

I think Scanlation in the form it's now will die, they just won't be able to compete with AI/MTL assisted official releases. Scanlation will probably just be for niche stuff and small publishers without offcial translations.

Scanlation teams will survive, they will just also themselves start using AI to clean up pages and do MTL. Not right or that soon, but eventually all things improve and it becomes crazy to not do it when it's instant work done for free.

You mean omnibuses? Because people don't want to pay 10 bucks for each 200 page book but will pay 14 bucks for 400 page books. I think they're ugly as fuck and annoying to read but it's better than publishers just completely dropping the manga because people won't shell out for smaller volumes.

Just linking to torrents/magnets is enough for rights holders to come after you. The big benefit is that the website going down won't really stop anything because all of the content is being hosted on hundreds of individual machines all over the world. You can just run another instance of the website with a copy of the database and you're where you left off.

Plex allows manga?

But the uploader was always responsible, and they will be when they move to different sites. As for mangadex they have always complied with removal requests but they would have have been responsible otherwise even without that check box.

Torrent/Nyaa suggestions

No matter how easy you think it is, the fact is most people who want to pirate manga do so by searching

[series name] Chapter [chapter number] online

Click link and read. No risk. No need to even think about VPN. No need to set up stuff, downloading clients, understanding what and how seeing works, fixing it if it breaks etc etc etc.
They are great for some, but the majority will not move to them. As long as at least 1 easy to reach agg. site exists, there is more chance them simply giving up on a series that gets an official TL, than going to get a torrent for it.

mmm spending time searching for and downloading each new release for publishing manga every time yummy. you are very smart

the site should still seed the manga otherwise wouldn't you end up in a situation where old series become unreadable due to 0 seeders. that shit happens to me all the time on manga torrents from before 2015 on nyaa

I'm still reading my very limited selection of raw manga in peace. I hate that 95%+ of manga raw aren't pirated and I'm too poor to buy them.

Mangasee/Weebcentral deliberately hosts official rips so they should be more guarded against copyright unless they're run by retards.

If you're running a legit website, CDN costs aren't that massive that it makes sense.

I'd say that the biggest issue with trying to do a decentralised manga website is that you need to get people to seed the torrents for extended periods of time. If you implement a web reader where peers download the files through WebTorrent, they stop seeding the chapter/volume the moment they close the tab. And most likely they will contribute less than 1.00 ratio during their reading session, so the swarm needs other peers to seed enough to cover these people.

I think if you were to make a decentralised manga WebTorrent website, you'd need to incentivize the uploaders to continue to seeding their uploaded chapters for at least a couple of years.

the fact is most people who want to pirate manga do so by searching

Who cares what most people want?
What kind of fucking pirate site gives a fuck about traffic as opposed to the content being available to download?
If it's too hard for them, that's fine, they can go fuck off and do something else.

gookslop

chinkslop

all those subhuman languages except English

Good riddance

bookmarklets.roler.dev/#mangadex-export-title-list

And? Most people also watch anime by streaming it from some shitty website with watermarks on them, and yet basically everyone on Anon Babble gets their anime from Nyaa. There's no need for us to care about the casuals.

Retards like you need to be gatekept from piracy.
This kind of shit is why MD is dead.

There's been half a dozen big sites taken down in a similar fashion and scanlation culture never died. Last time 5 years ago, I made a habit of tracking series on a third party app that allows for source migration, and it took me less than an hour to replace every series that got DMCA'd save one, Anna Komnene.

I will say the ESL MTL pipeline has somehow become worse as AI improved paradoxically. Despite having no professional or even academic background in photo editing, illustration, translation, or AI I can off-hand think of how all of these can be automated better than what most of these groups are doing while e-begging.

ComicK also hosts official rips for what it is worth.

1. create a new scanlation website
2. japanese comics only
3. english translation only
4. IP ban Japan and USA
5. host the website on SEA or eastern european server
6. throw all DMCA claim in the trash bin
There. 100% safe.

kissmanga dying nuked a shit load as well. but yeah its just a cycle but another one will pop up eventually
its in the scanlator's best interest to have a big scanlation hub anyway. no one is ever going to tens of hundreds of individual scanlator's discord/website/patreon just to read a chapter

I just can't get behind modern Anon Babble obession with catering to normalfags needs. Is it because Anon Babble in general is getting an influx of tourists from places like twitter and shitcord since Covid?

Anon Babble lives in your head rent-free

But that's been there for uploaders for months now

You jest but that's how we do things in Europe, or at least in my country.

There is np additional risk from torrenting. I'm on big gay Xfinity. Unless I go to the obvious honeypot trackers and download big gay hollywood film screenrip the week it's in theaters, I don't get DMCA warnings and I have never lost service in 30+ years.

Is it because Anon Babble in general is getting an influx of tourists from places like twitter and shitcord since Covid?

It's that, and also a generational thing.
The younger generations are obsessed with everything they do being "popular," so much so that it even infects their choice of piracy site.
These people are braindead, genuine subhuman retards, and they don't know how to shut the fuck up for 5 seconds and stop spreading links around all over the internet because they want attention.

subhuman refugees show up and shit in your streets

heh, rent free

they probably expected to make a deal because they are too big to fail, but koreans don't care

vertical pages

This is objectively the most comfortable way to read anything in a digital format.

Read manga via magazine subscriptions or free reading sites and buy the ones you actually care about on release.
Wait for sales and campaigns to purchase titles you want to catch up on and to grab titles you didn't immediately support.

Hard disagree.

Find a lot of manga that havent been uploaded to Mangadex over at Comick instead

This angers me, and I can see that it's been MONTHS since these were uploaded, chapters that I couldve read.

How much resources does seeding take up anyway? I can't imagine it's any more than a single server tower can handle, provided you have good enough internet and a dozen or so terabytes of storage space.

Only if you are a phoneposter

I just hope he's not in the US

Sounds like a "you" problem.

Shit, never mind

I'm 100% serious
non english and non japanese stuff are the plague of """"""""manga"""""""""" websites.
and Japan & USA have cancerous lawfare culture. and USA is basically the only country with the rights to "globally distributed" manga. simply block their access and everything is safe.
Americans who still want to visit can use VPN.

There are apps that automatically download releases from multiple sources. Then it's on my server and I can read them at anytime and no one can take them from me

No, that's why I'm making this

Are you just now realizing that?
I've been following lots of manga that haven't been uploaded to MD in months/years, but are readily available on sites that people insist are nothing but MD aggregators.

Have mercy, they already have empty legal troubles as is...

Your fault for not doing a basic search.

non english and non japanese stuff are the plague of """"""""manga"""""""""" websites.

I actually somewhat agree. I don't know why manga sites have to also cater to Manhua, Manhwa and even some Western webtoons when the reverse is never true. You're not gonna see any Japanese stuff on any Korean focused site.

Completely incorrect.
This may be true for traditional webcomics, but most webcomics were intentionally formatted so that they took advantage of screen sizes to fit the maximum amount of panels. Webtoons are kinda the same, but of course those are made for phones and reading them on a desktop is a nightmare unless you have a vertical monitor.
Manga, as they are almost always physical first, are meant to be read like a book. One or two pages at a time. If you can't see that you are completely braindead.

This is why it's important to always look for backup options

We need to go back to DCC

If you have tens, hundreds of thousands of individual torrents active at a time, then it definitely does take resources.

WebTorrent does allow for web seeds, so if you were to implement a dual-approach of one big centralised manga host + a bunch of people seeding, you could have your big centralised host just deliver stuff over HTTP as a web seed. That does however mean that there's less incentive for people to seed, meaning that it's less effective as a decentralised solution.

It's only like $10 at most for a single volume

That's like 1500 yen. Most volumes are going to be half as much.
If you purchase digitally and wait for opportune moments you can cut it down to a quarter. Occasionally even below 100 yen and in extreme cases as little as 10 yen.

I don't know why manga sites have to also cater to Manhua, Manhwa and even some Western webtoons when the reverse is never true.

Didn't MD get hit because of Kakao?
If so, then chances are a lot of the manga aggregators may end up dropping manhwa at least in its entirety if the Korean companies are going to assfuck the sites for hosting them.

This is what mobile phone and webtoon brainrot does to people

sites that people insist are nothing but MD aggregators.

got a list of them?

account required for lewd content

compressed image quality

Oh perfect, so comick is trash too. Unfortunately scanlators are already moving to that website.

No, I don't.

What is everything you want to see in your community?

Are YOU the epitome of everything you want to see in your community?

Hmm...

you'll be able to read the next Kingdom chapter in 10 years bro

You guys do realize you can upload to good ol' MangaPark right?

community

I want a place to pirate manga

weebcentral official - 1200 x 1745px 317.97 KB jpg
comick official - 1444 x 2100px 324.51 KB webp

mangadex upload - 853 x 1200px 438.09 KB png
weebcentral scrape - 853 x 1200px 135.37 KB jpg
comick scrape - 853 x 1200px 300.75 KB webp

Webp lossless?

Or the hundreds of other manga site really.

The one Mangadex/WeebCentral comparison I did had the WeebCentral be a downscale as well as a PNG-to-JPEG conversion.

need proof of this

207 really is the year internet started dyimg and 2013 was the coup de grace

Legitimately didn't realize that site was still alive
Most of those sites are scrappers from MD. That was the issue. Very few allow people to upload there

open image from Comick from a chapter I scanlated

filename says JPG, but the header says PNG

what the fuck is this clown doing over here?

You're talking about decade old torrents. The liability risk would definitely take the sites down in less time. While it's not a perfect continuity, it's a lot easier to reseed, then try to upload to a site that was DMCA'd.

An easy solution, English releases only, JP series only. I strongly think isolating manga, manwha, etc. would solve a lot of problems. The manwha readers are a lot younger, struggle with platform changes, and love spamming social media.

NHH

Mangapark is a mess. Regularly halfway through a series a similarly titled manwha strips will be uploaded.

I wonder how much money they're paying for all this shit. Hopefully it's on the level of thousands because imagine wasting hundreds of thousand of dollars to take down manga that'll do nothing to profit you.

torrents don't make sense for releases, it doesn't make sense to have a torrent for every single small file

offline :)

>filename says JPG, but the header says PNG

Really? Because the one I checked out was the opposite. It was page1.png or something but it was 100% a JPEG file.

holy newfag tourist

Scanlators should move to soulseek

How so

Now the question is if Comick will allow uploads to replace the horribly compressed images they scraped.

I'll make an exception for Harmless Monsters. They've had good taste in translation projects

That just raises more questions! I will not assume that eveything on here is a re-compressed JPG. Like Mangafox but without the watermark.

Who cares what most people want?

Anon, the demands of the masses are what determines the fate of the scene. Not the niche take of some random on Anon Babble

torrent clients slow down with too many torrents. That's why people batch files, having a million torrents for each chapter is going to slow down your client. I'm already feeling it

Comick is fine for casual reading

So you're a pro reader huh?

Everything should move to soulseek.

Anon, the demands of the masses are what determines the fate of the scene.

Lol, no, not when it comes to piracy.
What determines the fate of the scene is how hard corpos go after them, and the bigger the scene gets and the more it tries to aim for "the masses" the harder it gets fucked by corpos.
You retards need to be gelded.

It was over before it even began

The demands of the masses mean shit since the uploaders are the ones making the decision.

Also, just because the initial distribution was through a “hard-to-use” medium like torrents doesn’t mean that there won’t be a dozen+ sites reuploading shitty watermarked versions of the same chapters to the huddled masses.

not

Now*

DM me or no download for you

Also you have to beg to trade me 1 of 5 exact items or I won't even reply

What a bunch of faggots

Specifically interested in Anon Babble because my understanding is that it was supposed to be a business-related board and not a crypto board.

The only kind of "business-related" matters being discussed by laymen were stocks. Crypto in the latter half of the 2010's was the same kind of speculative trading, except with much more hyperbolic swings so massive gains could be made even by people just throwing a couple hundred into an app.

No issue. I don't see why the same pattern as we see with anime wouldn't work. Weekly episodes, seasonal batches, and collected BD batches all get torrents. Serialized chapters, volume batches, and completed works all get torrents. Users are free to decide which they will seed.

We will not be uploading stuff outside our Discord server to avoid legal issues

Okay, maybe don't announce that this is where you're doing your piracy specifically, that's probably gonna lead to legal issues more than uploading elsewhere.

small independent scanlators that work on niche series are going to be hurt the most by this. it sucks. if all you care about is ultra-popular shit or twitter manga, then it'll be fine I guess

discovery of new series is going to go down the tubes unless it gets picked up by some mega group like kirei cake

Namicomi

Yeah this site is now dead, time to migrate

turns out they are keeping their users hostage and disabled the delete account option

is this going to be the second case of personal data leak from them?

Maybe...maybe not.

Japanese prime minister Shigeru Ishiba said his country's financial condition was worse than Greece's as he rejected calls for tax cuts

who tf is namicomi?

manga site gets big

some scanlators/translators exclusively upload to said site

attracts buttloads of normalfags

Publishers take notice

gets DMCA nuked

repeat

Why do people keep failing to diversify, the pattern just repeats all the time.

Sorry, diversity is illegal now.

So how long until comick takes over and then dmcas like mangadex did and caves in?

I think it depends a bit if they remove the official releases or not. I doubt they'll last for long with official releases even if they're located in SEA.

A lot of scanlators will take jpg raws, put their text in, and save them as png files so maybe that's what's happening there

MDs attempt at going legit. It's filled with really ugly deviantart comics.

In theory MD could just become a better maintained mangaupdates, and people can get notified of releases in one place rather than bookmarking each individual group's site, but maintaining a site or using random filehosts with cubari is also a nightmare which is why I'm so strongly in favor of torrents.

What's the best pipeline for getting my MD Follows into FMD?

You unironically think niche creators are affected by this one way or another? If their manga flopped in Japan it will get cancelled regardless of western popularity. There are very few exceptions and off the top of my head I can only think of Watamote and Love Bullet.

Using reader apps like good old Tachiyomi's source migration feature.

Because the panic that happens between each era is a perfectly acceptable price to pay for the years of convenience in between.

Something similar to webtoon.

>NamiComi is the global ecosystem for creators and fans of comics and manga. Creators can publish their titles, fans can directly support creators by monthly subscriptions and interact with them via integrated social media. NamiComi is currently in open beta. MangaDex supports self-published creators and links to freely readable chapters on NamiComi here(mangadex)

They've 'partnered' with mangadex for a while now for traffic.
mangadex.org/group/9771ebfe-204f-41f9-8ff5-0f9e0ba38009/namicomi?tab=info&page=9

They'll make it open-source this time.

gets DMCA nuked

These are really two separate steps and only the latter is a problem

Scanlation teams will survive, they will just also themselves start using AI to clean up pages and do MTL.

You can already use Panel Cleaner for cleaning and OCR, IOPaint for redrawing, and chatgpt or gemini for translation. I bet there are groups that have almost completely automatic scanlation tools already like those paywall coin based ones.

People just love convenience. Only needing to go to 1 place to browse and read content is just much easier than setting up a decentralized and protocol or checking several different scanlation sites for updates.

They're the same people you know.

Oh no I have to take an hour to find a new source for shit how frustrating

Doesn't it get exhausting trying to be elitist about such a mundane thing?

I used to download manga from irc servers.

The problem are the retards hosting the site, they are doing piracy and they know it, this "trying to go legit" is fucking retarded, they should have proper OPSec and ask for donations if they want to profit from their operation.

Kissmanga, mangfox, mangaone and all those weren't scanlation hubs, they were just aggregator leeches.

Guess I'll finally have an excuse to make some new friends

We need to go back to DCC

No, back to e-mule and e-donkey.

Guys!
I looooooooooooove manga!
I love it so much!

Pay for it!

WHAT!?!? NO! You're SICK for suggesting that!!!

Guys!
I love the manga I read!
Every single one!

Make a list. Write it down.

WHAT!? I HATE keeping track of my interests/time/money!! Someone ELSE SHOULD be doing that FOR ME!
You're SICK for telling me to "invest" "effort" into what I KNOW I DESERVE like 9 thousand already-translated-into-English Japanese comics! IMMEDIATELY!!

I deserve everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN YOU HEAR ME!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
LISTEN TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Technically, this time we actually do have another option, people just aren't adjusting yet

i know they're all aggregators but i remember kissmanga having more niche and other licensed titles than others for whatever reason. you could usually find stuff on there that's not on other aggregators

WHAT!?!? NO! You're SICK for suggesting that!!!

Retard, to pay for manga, you need to fake you address on Japanese Amazon at least, and all you get is DRM protected files you can't even unlock on PC. And of course you need to know Japanese

No still different websites. Wait till naver tries to aquire them all like some pokemon.

e-mule and e-donkey.

try to download the new One Piece

it's CP

normalfags get tramatized and stop reading manga

Yes please

Where is Weebcentral based?

basedland

Retard, to pay for manga, you need to fake you address on Japanese Amazon at least, and all you get is DRM protected files you can't even unlock on PC. And of course you need to know Japanese

Are you retarded? You can make an account easily on amazon, bookwalker, kobo, and you can rip and remove drm easily with calibre/dedrm. Just because you're a retard you shouldn't expect everyone else to be.

Kissmanga like all the other kiss sites were on a different level

I remember when people used to purchase a piece of paper and write down their lists with a pencil.

I'm SO HAPPY the Internet solved all that hard work for me~

I kneel

These stupid sites need to stop accepting gookshit on their main site and also learn to separate languages. It's almsot always just english stuff getting targetted, no need to bring down every other language with it.

and you can rip and remove drm easily with calibre/dedrm

At that point I wouldn't want to bother buying the manga, I'd rather just send the creator some money online instead and continue reading on pirate sites.

Endless excuses.

dmca site

never publish half the shit you dmca in the west ever

release the other half at such a cripplingly slow pace that interest dries up and it gets cancelled before the run ends

Why do they do it?

Kekaroo! How the fuck is dcma even real? Like nigga, look away from the screen. Close your eyes, the fuckin sender email. Kek-lmao!

Exhentai is next

Friendly reminder, there was no exchange of ownership, Holo owns namicomi.

See:

tracking series on a third party app that allows for source migration

which one?

check out what all this comick shilling is about

the userbase is literally braindead

But at least the chapter I checked was left intact so I guess I'll keep it in mind as a last resort.

if you think that westerner boomers are bad, asians are even worse

That's just how yurifags in general are.

Based

real person name

no wonder tey folded. self-dox since beginning wit te goal of becoming te next CR/Fakku

I got an iphone, is there any alternative to Tachiyomi for ripping follow lists?

After the last scare, ex has been backed up so many times now that it wouldn't matter

ww3.animeonline.ninja/online/elf-san-wa-yaserarenai-083024/
Make me stop faggot

This is better than the commentary on dailies here, let them cook bruh

3. english translation only

4. IP ban USA

Why translate it into english then if you're gonna ban most of the english audience.

All these questions and complains leads to one road, are you seeding?

pap__back. If you search Github you can find extensions for the main scan sites, aggregators, and even raw manga, korean/chinease stuff, hell theres an extension to a cosplay site. You can also make your own one. It real easy since the app is on the appstore and the extensions are literally just clicking button and they appear on the app.

yet basically everyone on Anon Babble gets their anime from Nyaa

You don't actually believe that right? Have you been on any discussion post and you can sometimes see the watermarks for the site they site they ripped or screenshot it from. I'm 99% convinced more people on Anon Babble, regular or not, don't and have never used Nyaa.
I get your point about casuals though.

most

(THIS IS WHAT AMERICANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE)

I don’t think the porn publishers have as much sway as people like kadokawa

Interesting

someone please teach me how to find raws easily

i dont even bother with comment sections anymore, they are always full of retards spouting ebonics

It filters out the burger normies who are too retarded for VPNs, and so most of the problems they bring

Are you retarded

Are you?

i actually do like that one, something endearing about it.

bookwalker.jp/st2/

and you can rip and remove drm easily with calibre/dedrm

No, you can't, retard, protection removal works only on files dumped from amazon devices but not form PC

I think the idea is to require a proxy if you are likely to dmca but requiring an account to read on web with reverse scraping protection to let scrapers grab it with no account would have the sam effect

every normalfag knows what a VPN is now due to all the youtube shilling, you'd be better off doing that cookie shit that sadpanda does.

I've checked more uploads on comick now, the majority have been jpg so no clue why some are webp. Importantly, comick still seems to compress user uploaded scans

this is unironically way too inconvenient, and I'm fully willing to pay even
Miss me with having to jump through all the jp payment hoops though
Like, where do the chinks and scanlation groups all get their shit from? Is there a site somewhere?

It used to work with the Windows version of Kindle. Now you can't even load files from Kindle readers any more.
But you should use Kobo instead. Less obstacles and no limitations on quality.

Lying on the internet

Lol. Lmao even

let scrapers grab it with no account

Just have open API for scrapers and clients , restrict online reader.

so, what will be the next MD?

No reason not to ip range bann all of the subcontinent from everything forever.

designated shiting streets

do not redeem

it's good enough to filter the big shonen normalfags, kids and mobile only retards.

I use kobo, and then rip them with calibre/dedrm/obok. Pay with paypal, one click solution thingy. How hard can it be?

Groups are moving to ick.
But both ick and weeb recompress images.

this just made me realize i havent read anything new in a while. oh well

Anyone is using Comick on Tachiyomi? Is there a way to filter all non English languages?

>this is unironically way too inconvenient

How exactly is it inconvenient?
Bookwalker has the same payment options as English sites. It's not like DLsite where you have to jump through a dozen hoops to pay with something other than JCB.

There won’t be one. Mangadex was only so nice to use because it was developed with the intention to legitimize. All the other sites were developed to extract as much as revenue from porn ads and deceptive popups for pennies on link clicks as possible.

may this teach the other pirate sites to not be a corpo cuck and try to be their allies, it doesn't matter if you redirect to official sites or use your website to promote the industry, they will always fuck you up, so put ads, host your website in a third world country and don't and don't be a bitch. This is also the reason sadpanda is dying.

disable "all" and enable "english" in extensions.

retard burgers not understanding that english is an universal language and people translate to english so the whole world can read it, not necessarily the ameriturds
man they really have main person syndrome

Pay with paypal

Or if you're paranoid: purchase Kobo gift cards with cash in local stores.

never localize content

Still send DMCA just because.

But both ick and weeb recompress images.

I genuinely do not care if they recompress or not.
I doubt less than one percent care.

the one series I work on didn't get hit, but I'm reluctant to keep uploading on mangadex especially with that "I'm authorized to upload this" checkbox that they added. I really don't wanna deal with any potential legal crap. I'm not sure what to do now though, since it can't really sustain a discussion thread on Anon Babble and I'm sure it'd get buried if I posted "chapter 150 of some shit no one reads" to reddit with cubari

it was developed with the intention to legitimize

that's why it failed, only obscure and purely pirate sites remail afloat. Corpos don't realize they shot themselves in the foot by killing the biggest manga website, the next one won't be their ally.

How good do you think the kickbacks from Irodori and Fakku are to keep panda from just saying fuck you and letting things reign free again

Basically I'm just not gonna buy any manga
I know.... UGH I know .....
It's just that I'm not gonna buy any is all
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks.

PayPal

Do I need to do any drm fuckery, or it just a zip?

Main character syndrome leh bad, even tho character bloat sucks

There is literally no comment section that isn't like that. Heck, that's how people talk here on the shounen threads.

It's funny how the piracy situation between anime and manga has completely reversed lately. It used to be the manga publishers didn't care much about people pirating and the anime sites would get targetted. Now it feels easier than ever to pirate anime with very few big takedowsn (Kissanime was only bad for people who had no idea of any other way) because the fansub scene is largely dead. Meanwhile the manga situation is completely fucked up officially but they target big sites anyway because manga is increasing in popularity due to the increase in anime.

Anyone with a working set of eyes care.
That was the big appeal of mangadex, that they didn't recompress images.

Mangadex was only so nice to use because it was developed with the intention to legitimize

Which is what bit them in the ass in the end and now everybody knows trying to play nice and legit doesn't work.

Great job corpos!

Indians getting internet access was the worst thing that has ever happened.

Ignoring China, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Japan, >50% of the people on the internet are in the USA

And Batoto before that, which was the main place before Mangadex came along. Almost as if that's the main feature of the uploading destination of choice.

It's all so tiresome

This thing has no value, you're in exactly as much danger as you'd be posting anywhere else, which is to say not much as long as you do comply if you get a dmca or cease and desist.

I think a lot of this has to do with Kakao recently making a big effort to go after high profile webtoon sites and Mangadex is part of that.

not him but how do you rip from bw using just desktop calibre and dedrm? i havent used that plugin

Are you actually retarded?

Anyone with a working set of eyes care.

most people read manga on their phones, so it really isnt an issue for them

most people read manga on their phones

[citation needed]

they're either paying a lot, or have serious ways to threaten the admins, I think the latter

Phonefags aren't people.

Authors will never stop being axed.

Most people are retards with no eye for any kind of quality, so of course they read shit on their phones.

That has nothing to do with it. The owners of mangadex are selling out and trying to pull a Jewcob, they think they can become Fakku 2. And it seems like they are effectively smokescreening this and scapegoating corps considering you think anything otherwise.

Lemme tap the sign.

is Ick to be trusted or will they fold like md?

blessed

Compression is good because it means the site is actually usuable.

% of the people on the internet are in the USA
There are more Internet users in Germany, UK, France, Italy, Spain and Poland combined than there is in the US, and I'm pretty sure there are more countries than that in Europe alone, let alone the whole ass world.

You had trouble browsing Mangadex?

So what's been the general trend for groups? Making/using their own site? Retreating to Discords? Giving up?

It’s limbo right now, give it a month or two things will have to settle

they seem to be actually making a profit out of their operation so they probably won't fold as easily when they eventually get hit with a dmca

Comick it is then I suppose

Either get upload permissions to comick or just upload to plebbit with imgur/cubari/catbox or something.

Yeah, they've basically just used manga for adverisement for their namicomi OC garbage, and are now just going legit to push them more.
I don't know if they understand if people aren't exactly there for their garbage western weaboo comics honestly. It's going to be as dead as mangahelpers. They'll probably remove all manga, manhua, and manhwa in a few months exactly like mangahelpers.

Making/using their own site?

This should have been the norm from the beginning. Don't know why people stopped. Oh right, e-pen.

It gives me the ick.

So what's been the general trend for groups? Making/using their own site? Retreating to Discords? Giving up?

New scanlation hub is most likely comick at this rate, so most are probably just fleeing there.

I'm pretty sure it stopped because a one-stop site was easier

Ideally mangadex would just opensource their code, have some better people fix their retarded backend api, develop some torrent feature to allow copying the data and neatly package it as a docker image or similar so anyone smart enough could quickly get their own copy up and running. I'm sure there would be enough autists willing to constanbtly backup the whole thing and even shutting down the "main" site would just be a matter of having a new one pop up.

They already turned over the domain they don't give a shit about having a sustainable site

It's a shame because MD really did have the best UI for reading and discovery.

Comick feels like it's going to give my computer AIDS.

groups should always have their own website for backup, but aggregators will always be the place 99% of the people will go

Don't know why people stopped

Because making and maintaining a website is a couple orders of magnitude more difficult than just uploading to an already existing one, and the user experience still ends up worse

Kobo is a lot more cumbersome to browse. It's fine if you know what you're looking for but for browsing and looking up information, Bookwalker is more convenient.

why do you suppose all these websites are now primarily optimised for phone readers?

I want to hear HOMBREEE's opinion on this

Anon Babble

Crypto was there in day one.

It's comfy

Are there any anons actually old enough to remember when Onemanga went down? The first big hit for that age?

People mention kiss and batoto but Onemanga was the apocalypse back then

Anon Babble was created specifically because Anon Babble complained about crypto threads
when are we getting /ai/ btw?

Mangadex was only so nice to use

The UI sucks
Even if you avoid the unnecessary comments and forums you have news on the front page about like "the admin threw a pie to their face"

ads

It's catered to tech-illiterate people who can't block ads specially phoneposters.
It's no surprise that it's sucking to corpos now, it was obviously going to go get money in another way. That's what ad revenue is for.
And you STILL gaslight that it is "nice to use" and the best thing since sliced bread.

onemanga was always trash quality and had alternatives
the first apocalypse was mangatraders
remember stoptazmo anyone?

I used to post on the onemanga forums and it's where I kept up with HxH and One Piece back when I cared about it. So at this point I"m not worried about these aggregator sites going down, I'll just wait for the next decent one to crop up.

This is the best way to read manga possible.

Yeah, that's how I remember it.

Logically, you would think that the Japanese wouldn't mind chapter translations being done for them in other languages.

Don't have to hire anyone to translate, it's literally done for free for you

expand your potential fan base far beyond a couple of thousand copies in Japan

There are many many ways to capitalize on this. I'm not saying that piracy is guaranteed a positive effect because it's not always you usually just end up with a technically "lost" sale but there are far better ways to go about this then encouraging everyone to now scatter to the winds and grow everywhere else.

can't delete account

bros?

Even if you avoid the unnecessary comments and forums

Which is easy since you need to go out of your way to even fucking see them.

Can't have MAU number go down.

temp solution

So it will be in use until it dies, got it.

'icks out for 'ex

I would love to have a colored e-ink device that would can allow me to hook it up to my computer and also utilize it away from my computer.

Threaten to sue them for not being GDPR compliant and I'm sure they'll do whatever you want

I was there.
I was there at the onemanga shutdown 3000 years ago.

start reading ongoing manga again after a good while

mangadex kill within days

fuck me

Who the fuck reads manga on a PC?

Nothing was or will be as easy as bookmarking my followed page and opening it every couple of days to go on a reading spree. I’m not using the site itself for discoverability that’s what r*ddit is for. I never had to go anywhere but my followed page.

Even if you avoid the unnecessary comments and forums you have news on the front page about like "the admin threw a pie to their face"

You can read manga and avoid all that shit. I don't know why people willingly go out of their way to see that when it isn't intrusive at all

Who reads on a phone of all things? Tablet is the bare minimum

can confirm, dual page is the only proper way to read manga.

So you’re to blame.

Comick will be a temp solution

Yeah just like how the current nyaa was only temporary until a real successor got made, oh wait

Do you even into vertical monitors?

Just download them from nyaa/godess

That’s not a page, that’s a keyboard and trackpad.

I was there when emule and edonkey were used to download manga, I was in #lurk, I used stoptazmo, I witnessed both mangahelpers and batoto fall.
You get used to it.

Scanlations being decentralised is absolute cancer.

What? This one was always supposed to be used. You’re thinking of the Anon Babble abortion.

I only read manga at work (phone), I don’t have time to read manga at home since I’m surfing ex if I’m at home

How do hentai sites manage to stay so strong? I feel like they even get put into court filings but many of the OG sites, particularly panda, are still around

you gotta do it through the forum iirc

It's not, you're just a lazy normalfag.

Many people other than me too if you haven't noticed.

you have news on the front page about like "the admin threw a pie to their face"

Sure, that's when you get news like that on the front page.
You literally have a balloon saying how many comments there are next to each chapter, why tf is that necessary?
Why are you trying to shill for a dead site? Are you paid for it?
I didn't go out of my way to do that. That is what I'm saying. I avoided checking comments and I still get a header advertising that "the admin threw a pie to their face" and a link to it. How is that better than an ad? How much are they paying you to say their site is good?

The first big hit for that age?

For me, it was Megaupload downfall.
Shit was wild back there.

what percentage of Anon Babble do we reckon are phonereaders?

I’ve never noticed.

from the beginning it was clear they wanted to cuck out.

Most stuff on Ex is indie.

Are the people complaining about phonereaders literal welfare queens who never have to leave the house or something? What the fuck else am I gonna read my manga on? If I’m at home I have better things to be doing than reading manga like playing games.

We got a live one.

What year even was that? I remember using Onemanga when I was in highschool but that's about it, when I started to get more seriously into anime and manga and became a regular on Anon Babble (2010 thereabout) I don't remember Onemanga being the "in" thing anymore.

I'm looking at making a centralization platform. I'm tinkering now and have a prototype.

It'll be a more rocky UX for the end user but it'll avoid any DMCA concerns. Will have to see how far I get and what kind of traction it'll receive.

I don't see it

Considering the state of modern Anon Babble, probably 70%.

Are the people complaining about phonereaders literal welfare queens who never have to leave the house or something?

No, I work from home.

What the fuck else am I gonna read my manga on?

A tablet.

I bought a projector that can be shot onto the ceiling. It's coming tomorrow, and the first things I'm going to try on it are gaming, porn and manga reading. Let's fucking go.

What tablet?

This whole no ads is specially suspect. Why is everyone so proud about not knowing how to block ads but fine with admins throwing a pie to their face? You love to say "ads are the worst" but you ignore when they suck to corpos?

13-inch iPad Pro

EOP faggot can't read raws

brain too small to search for raws even if he wanted to

Here is some spoonfeeding for raws, anon. I hope this makes you realize how incompetent you are at both Japanese and life if you've arbitrarily let this become a roadblock for yourself.
rawkuma.net/
dlraw.to/

I can tell by how you type that you're a SEAnigger, anon. That said, the links above will help you with everything except being in the 3rd world, I can't fix that.

So right now its basically:
- scraping off discord and cubari where some scanlators are uploading
- talk about cubari being used more
- general chaos apart from the above

I want to keep up to date but I cant read threads at work and dont have enough time to read all of what's posted in different threads each day after finishinf work.

>you have news on the front page about like "the admin threw a pie to their face"

Sure, that's when you get news like that on the front page.

Where the fuck are you seeing that?

I can’t justify buying and lugging around a tablet and a phone when it takes me less than 3 minutes to read a 20-30 page manga chapter

nice. I was thinking of getting Galaxy tab ultra or whatever it's called.

Because that's a convertible

Normies are really too fucking stupid to install adblockers.

Look at whole youtube bitching about Ads.

I should have hoarded more.
Sad time to be a manga reader.

That was when I last browsed it 2 years ago, obviously they change the news feeder.

So you're the speedreading trash who's trying to get first comment in the threads.

based as fuck. is it publicly available yet? I need this for my Boox 4C

Already have a plex server. I'd totally host this too.

i dislike two page, second page tends to spoil stuff
but it's ok for spreads obviously

Dumb speedreader opinion. I dont read manga to waste time or fillnin time, like some faggot on a commute or work break. I read it for enjoyment and as a nice, and seperate, part of my day. I get home, lay on the sofa and get really comfortable to enjoy mangonon my tablet. Taking plenty of time to think about what I'm reading and to appreciate the art.

I bought the L13 version. Great screen with vibrant colors but the temps are ludicrously high

Mangatraders...

centralization platform

Please elaborate. Where will the files be hosted?

90% of manga is mcdonalds tier trash meant for quick consumption, it’s junk food meant to fill a few minutes of downtime here and there. I can count on two hands the modern series I would consider treating the way you guys are talking about and even then it doesn’t take me 10 minutes to read a 30 page chapter of something like that.

Good artists know how to set up mini-cliffhangers between double pages

You don't like manga.

This is your average pirate, by the way.

Open source it

cubari

You mean Comick?

Tell someone who buys 20 volumes at 1500 yen per book that they're meant to speedread through their manga.

MDs attempt at going legit.

That's pretty cool though. The western comic scene has been pretty dead for a while now, so hopefully this can mutate into its own spic/west/SEA kind of thing

It's a zip with DRM. You'll have to use the official readers if you don't want to read online. People aren't willing to share their ripping methods for BW out of fear that holes get patched.

These comparisons should be enough to show anyone it's not a good alternative. It's not one of those times a page could have been uploaded in grayscale.

Anyone that still does this already read those 20 volumes digitally and is just a collectorfag, even if they’re buying them one at a time as they come out it doesn’t take more than 40 minutes to read a volume unless youre dyslexic

You have no love for manga.

That’s how manga is published.

Yes, my mistake. I meant Comik.

it doesn’t take more than 40 minutes to read a volume unless youre dyslexic

For how long have you read Japanese? 1-3 hours is more realistic depending on the content. 40 minutes is the fastest you'd get with some action series with simple art.

It ain’t that deep, you can enjoy manga without buying box sets and jerking off over the two page spread alone for 10 minutes every week

there are maybe 3 people in this thread that actually read manga in japanese and at a proficient level

With tachiyomi I even migrate just because some minute outage or delayed publication.
This MD situation is not my first rodeo, business as usual.

all those hq uploads...lost to the wind...

Did anyone create a backup or a mirror in time?

Yes. Every aggregator site on the planet. It's what they do. Mirror Dex and the official readers

Heh, they don't want people to leave.

All of them have lower image quality and highly compressed images, including Weebcentral and Comick.

Compression aside, sites like MangaSee only uploads rips from official sources which is the biggest blow for me especially with all the censorship Viz did to some of their series like Rosario Vampire

This feature has been gone since the Hombre days.

Also, they won't upload fixed/updated versions of chapters

What external repos should I have for tachi forks? I just have Keiyoushi right now.

Need anything else?

They should've never capitulated in the first place or rather why didn't they relocate their servers to a country outside of the reach of Japanese/American copyright laws after they first started getting hit with DMCA fucking years ago? Did they really think if they just "played nice" and stopped uploading scans of chapters released after a series got officially licensed (yet still hosting any previous scans) that the japs would kindly return the favor and leave them alone?

Why is there no torrentfags here? Usually when a anime site goes down they appear pointing and laughing.

apples and oranges

But Manga is smaller and easier to hoard.
At least anime has an excuse for being big.

Because anime is far easier to save with torrents than manga due to how their numbers are just a fraction of what manga has to offer, raw or translated.

There is so much more manga than anime.

Torrentfags aren't deluded enough to think 90% of all chapters wouldn't have 0 seeders. Deep down they know torrents only work for popular shit.

The next few months are going to be very interesting. I fully expect zoomers or alphas to kill piracy at some point but I don't know where we are at right now

Their file size is smaller compared to a 12 episode anime though. Isn't smaller better and easier for torrents?

Just a reminder that mangadex is trying to gaslight that they had a content policy always, when it in fact was made two days ago.
web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://mangadex.org/compliance/content

Are they trying to throw scanlators under the bus?

Soulseek needs to get rid of [PRIVATE] files. The feature has no use case other than to have shit locked behind a paywall.

Size is irrelevant. Popularity is all that matter. If a file isn't being constantly torrented sooner or later no one will be seeding it.

No, the amount of manga that is produced and already exists FAR surpasses anime, it doesn't matter how small the file size is, in unfeasible and unreasonable to think you can preserve a good chunk of it, even less all manga that there is, hell not even all anime is preserved to this day.

Yes.

Are they trying to throw scanlators under the bus?

Yeah, definitely. They also added a button that you had to agree with that you own the property when you upload.

rip in piss

Anon, managing 1000 manga is going to be more difficult than managing 100 anime. Size is an issue sure but the sheer volume of what you have to deal with is a major obstacle.

2024 until now is pretty brutal. HnA, Gogo and now Mangadex.

I fully expect zoomers or alphas to kill piracy

Piracy is never going to die. Scanlation? That's a different matter altogether.

why can't these fags just host the site in a place where they can throw dmca notices into the trash?
stop pretending that you aren't a pirates

It's a form of piracy. No matter how you spin it

why can't these fags just host the site in a place where they can throw dmca notices into the trash?

Because they were already doxxed, see:

Centralized piracy sites are cancer, there should be a bigger push to move manga to ipfs or some other distributed protocol

Piracy is never going to die. Scanlation? That's a different matter altogether.

It's not long until you have decent AI/MTL automatic scanlation. Most likely several groups are already using a tool and they need only to edit it a bit afterwards. You already have ichigoreader and cotrans for reading, but they could be better.

No it's still too hacky for now but I'm getting there

Just have like two dozen interchangeable sites, basically what we have now

why can't these fags just host the site in a place where they can throw dmca notices into the trash?

Their goal is going legit and making money. Soon they'll wipe all manga, manhua, and manhwa and only have OC.
It's mangahelpers all over again.

can't they or other people remake it an be anonymous this time?

to ipfs

I've heard of this meme even when batoto died and still not seen a single website using it lmao

No existing site is interchangeable with MD.

Welcome to modern intel CPUs where 100°C is the average.

They already did.

another source code leak, uh shucks!
oh, what's with all these similar looking sites popping up? couldn't be us, no way.

It'd take a community effort versus waiting for some retard to host another website. I pirate a lot of other media that's on bittorrent and ipfs and even if some nodes go down the network still maintains full uptime

speaking of which, is vimm still dead? i should go check on them...

This is perfectly normal.

Anyway...
On more serious note if MU was shutting down I would cry for real.