Did he really deserve to be executed? A lot of pirates really never did anything bad from what we know, is wanting to find the One Piece enough to be wanted by the Marine?
Garp should have stopped it if he is that strong.
Did he really deserve to be executed? A lot of pirates really never did anything bad from what we know...
Lineage of sin is a big part of One Piece. It's not enough that you did what you did, but who you're related to is also a large factor too. Ace being Roger's son doomed his fate, and he treated it as a curse.
I don't even remember what were his crimes desu
Something something by the roots
Did you never read/watch OP?
Ace was executed for being Roger’s son and to set a trap for Whitebeard, I don’t think Ace ever even mentioned wanting to find One Piece
I don’t think Ace ever even mentioned wanting to find One Piece
That's the important thing. Ace had no aspirations about the One Piece yet still got punished for being Roger's kid. Which is why it makes it all the more impactful when White Beard tells everyone that the One Piece is real. It's not just a rallying cry for the pirates, it's one massive last "fuck you" toward the World Goverment for fucking with his family.
I find it dumb as fuck how right after he died there was a 3rd brother the whole time who just so happens to get Ace’s devil fruit.
Peak hack writing
Bullshit
Ace was an arrogant prick and was responsible among most things of the death of Whitebeard
Yes, he deserved to die and Oda actually doing it was a perfect decision. Just compare that to whatever Horikoshi wrote to see
People think Garp was a massive retard when the reality is if Ace and Luffy wanted to become marine Garp would have leveled Marineford if they tried some slick shit
If Hori wrote One Piece:
Ace survives but does nothing for the rest of the manga
Whitebeard becomes even more crippled, but shows up one last time to crack Wanos walls with his devil fruit while having a multi-chapter inner monologue about always being 2nd place behind Roger
Luffy can't stop talking about what it means to be a pirate
Finale has a massive side plot dedicated to fishman racism, with Jinbei having to tardwrangle the rage of his fellow fishmen
Robin loses her limbs one after the other and has to replace them with her devil fruit powers, the peak degenerate Hori fetish fantasy
Whitebeard and Ace were actually classic pirates who robbed, murdered, and raped thousands.
Whitebeard probably didn't rape considering his morals
Pirates don't pay taxes, bro, so yes he deserved it.
WB literallly raped young boys into submission and then added them to his crew
mfw
was responsible among most things of the death of Whitebeard
Ace literally never asked for being saved and was pleading with his family to not throw themselves away, and they ignored him. Whitebeard ALREADY signaled he was ready to die to let his remaining crew escape. Ace's choices only ever killed himself, not his loved ones.
Yeah, no. "I killed a million people, but I didn't want to I swear" is a shit excuse. Ace was responsible for it, completely and it wouldn't have happened if he listened to people that were smarter amd better than him
Lacks too much of bully cocksucking to be written by Hori
none of those Marines or pirates actually had any agency in their actions, it was all Ace!! Ace made them do that, that's why he told them repeatedly not to do it!!
Yeah half the ones we've seen are good people who earn their money the legit way, or take it by beating enemy crews and claiming their treasure (which was probably acquired through illegal means).
I don't think Shanks or Marco would kick into some restaurant and threaten people for food, or steal from banks / shops. But they probably do win the money from those who do so.
A lot of pirates really never did anything bad from what we know
1.) Going wherever you want and doing whatever you want with no regard for the law makes you a criminal, even if it doesn't hurt anyone
2.) Most pirates we meet are mass murdering psychopaths or at least destabilize local governments
3.) Most pirates are supposed to be executed rather than imprisoned. Ace just got a flashier send off in order to lure in Whitebeard.
Ace’s crimes are
1, piracy,
2.theft via dining and dashing in Drum island and Lulusia kingdom,
3. aggravated assault against a doctor named black beard in Lulusia and Marines in G2 marine base and Marineford
4. Resisting arrest against Commodore Smoker in Arabasta, against Warden Magellan in Impel Down, & Sengoku in Marineford.
5. Mass murdering Crocodile’s 100 legal bounty hunters in Arabasta and 20 Marines in Marineford
6. 2X identity theft of marine soldiers in Marine base G-2.
7. Destruction of property on Banaro island
Other than Ace switching roles with Sabo I find your version intriguing enough, I’d watch a series of one-offs based on em.
mfw
5. Mass murdering Crocodile’s 100 legal bounty hunters in Arabasta
That's non-canon because the anime wanted him to stay longer but not really do anything for some reason. It's also just on-screen shit since Ace had a long-ass career before Whitebeard where he beat a Warlord and shit.
Yes. Ace is a cunt.
Garp would've most likely pulled a Hachinosu arguably if they were about to be executed publiclly by the Yonko themselves. Marineford was just an utterly fucked affair for anyone that wasn't Blackbeard.
Killing the last vestige of Roger sends a message to any pirates that try to go for the one piece, it's a declaration to kill their spirits
It's a huge point in One Piece that the villains keep pushing genetic and lineage crimes but the good guys always say it's not.
And it's not like Sabo has done anything particularly noteworthy so far, he's unnecessary to the story. I guess he witnessed the gorosei's real forms but everyone found out sooner or later
Everything involving the RA is kept intentionally in the dark because it's unrelated to the main story, because they're fighting a war in the shadows against the WG and their secret police, and because Dragon keeps talking about how the RA is still gathering strength and establishing footholds and cells to be able to strike back against the WG to permanently dismantle it. Sabo's got his own shit to do and had his own arc we didn't get to see
I think Sabo is a cheap fucking cop out to avoid actual stakes.
Erm, Ace died but here’s a new one that’s lame and gay!1!1
sabo was stupid and an obvious indicator that the writing was going to get worse
He's his own character but I agree that despite getting more screen-time he's not as strong of a character as Ace was. I think he's fine, and the other 4 Revolutionary dudes are kinda neat. He's just not as charming or as memorable I guess. It's funny though how much I disliked that other guy's manga that fleshed Ace's backstory out a bit more.
It’s illegal to download and read an anarchist’s cookbook In America
It’s illegal to download and read Mein Kampf in Germany.
One mediocre character doesn't indicate a decline. Case in point: the arc he debuted in was fucking cool
I think it's fairly obvious the final arc will have Luffy + Sabo + Koby fighting alongside each other mirroring the God Valley incident alliance between Roger and Garp but so far Sabo is not pulling his weight when it comes to the story.
le world government bad??