After S3, I hate Reina but love Mayu. Is that weird?
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Season 3 was good
It was very good, actually
Both Kumiko and Mayu are good characters and their conflict was expertly written because it originated from both of them having individual conflicting desires
You shouldn't hate Reina
She chose Mayu because she was slightly better than Kumiko and needed to choose her because that's who she is. She made the difficult choice to have the better player play
It's true that they were so close in skill level that it probably didn't make a difference for gold, but it was still the right choice for Reina to make
Some anons have said that it was a betrayal of Kumiko to recognize her sound and not chose her, but in my opinion it would have been a bigger betrayal if she had violated her own principles. In the end, the most important thing is that all three of them held to their convictions and became stronger because of it
Kumiko lost the soli, but she won every anon's heart
She truly is a best girl
After S3, I love both Reina and Mayu. Coomi felt slightly upstaged by the other girls
I don't feel like arguing with you and your generic bullshit talking points and I'll hate Reina as much as I want, but I'll just say that Reina's decision comes across in a worse light given that she was a cunt the entire season. You can maybe overlook a hurtful but "omg so brave and moral" action from someone you respect. It's harder to do so when the character has spent the entire season being a shithead and has already burned any fondness or respect you formerly had for her to the ground.
Piss, shit, and cry about it gayboy
Reina is more special than you and the fact you're offended by her superiority shows that you are untermensch
Maybe? To me, it felt like Mayu's character was made to be insecure and indecisive to the point that it invokes annoyance and frustration. Did you love that aspect of her?
Reina is superior to nobody. She's stupid, unlikable, boring. She's the worst character in Hibike and it's hard to think of anyone who's less interesting and less likable than she is. She has no redeeming qualities. She's not even physically attractive, Lipstick-chan and Mayu are much hotter.
I can relate to her and I have a lot of tolerance for "whininess" even though most people consider it the worst thing in the world, though I'm not entirely sure why she even signed up when her personality makes her ill-fit for competitive events.
it's hard to think of anyone who's less interesting and less likable than she is
mizore and nozomi
when her personality makes her ill-fit for competitive
She didn't know it's that hard to quit the slot
Mayu was fine, and the anime significant improved upon her characterization.
Mizore and Nozomi are full of problems, and they are really dislikable, but they are literal magnitudes more interesting than Reina.
I don't think it was a betrayal for Reina to pick Mayu. I think that was fine. What was not fine was Reina being an incredible turbocunt all year. As a member of leadership, she was negatively helpful. As a personal friend to Kumiko, she displayed the emotional intelligence of a pool of nuclear waste. Watching Reina all season was possibly even more exhausting than watching Mayu when she's walking up to Kumiko yet again.
I'm not entirely sure why she even signed up when her personality makes her ill-fit for competitive events.
She enjoys the eupho, the thrill of group competition, and giving her all. She dislikes the personal social drama that comes with that. Sometimes (oftentimes) what she enjoys and what she tries to avoid comes in one package. The soli competition at the end is all about personal competing wishes for all 3 key characters that wind up being mutually conflicting. Mayu's preferred outcome would have been to have given her best and have lost the soli competition. But she didn't, so she would have had to live with the stigma of being That Person, if it weren't for the grace that Kumiko offered her.
The only way for all of their wishes for all 3 characters to come true would have been for Reina to honestly believe that Kumiko was better. But she didn't. She kept to her musical honesty and brutally chose against her heart, leading to the collapse of the ideal outcome.
The only way for all of their wishes for all 3 characters to come true would have been for Reina to honestly believe that Kumiko was better. But she didn't.
She did in the LN, KyoAni just chose to be cunts with an artsy 3deep5u ending to make redditors cream themselves over how stunning and brave Reina is.
I don't think it was a betrayal for Reina to pick Mayu. I think that was fine. What was not fine was Reina being an incredible turbocunt all year. As a member of leadership, she was negatively helpful. As a personal friend to Kumiko, she displayed the emotional intelligence of a pool of nuclear waste.
All true, but the person you're speaking to is low IQ and low EQ, unfortunately, and can't do much besides read from a script.
No she didn't because there was no dedicated public soli audition. In fact, the entire LN audition felt flat. KyoAni intentionally changed this, and it was for the better. With that change, it finally gave Mayu and Reina some satisfying internal conflict, as well as gave Kumiko an ultimate and very public test of leadership, far more significant than anything else up to this point. And the denouement of all that drama gave us Daikichiyama 2, the single best scene in the whole franchise. S3 episode 12 was peak anime, and I will entertain no objections.
It does succeed in closing out their character arcs, but it's cringe when people say that Kumiko would have been more upset over Reina choosing her and felt betrayed by that. She's not some obsessively honor-bound Wuxia character. She'd have been conflicted over it, but it wouldn't have caused long-term pain (the way things actually played out very likely did). Kumiko's half-hearted blathering about meritocracy doesn't matter; she might not have felt betrayed by Reina's choice, but she wouldn't have felt betrayed by the opposite choice either. Reina, if she was in Kumiko's position, would have felt betrayed if someone threw her a bone like that, but Reina's an unlikable autistic weirdo. Kumiko is much closer to being a normal person. It's perfectly fine to say "It's admirable that Reina stuck to her ideals" but to go "No no you see Kumiko would have been even MORE hurt by Reina choosing her" is utter bullshit. Hell, that's part of the tragedy.
I too think Kumiko would have been fine with Reina choosing her even if Mayu was marginally better than her. But that's because Kumiko always chooses to see Reina in a positive light and always gives her the benefit of the doubt.
And that's what hurt about S3. Kumiko supported Reina every step of the way in public and private to her own personal discomfort, and Reina never reciprocated when it mattered. The most I can say is that she (eventually and after far too much time has reasonably passed) apologized, so that counts for something maybe? Kumiko was way too good for her. Imagine tolerating Reina without her Kumiko handler.
Great post. Totally agreed.
Sorry to for being mean.
It's out!
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Reina, you're a frowning shit
Hags edition.
here. I would like to add that what Kumiko told Reina up on Daikichiyama about how she was happy Reina lived up to her musical ideals was in the setting of Kumiko comforting Reina. Reina was feeling horrible about betraying (one of) their shared goals, and Kumiko was giving justification *to Reina* for Reina's decision - not just to make herself feel better but also to make Reina feel better. It just adds to the season's theme of "Reina does thing that hurts people, Kumiko has to pick up and mend the broken pieces."
Once again, Kumiko is too good for that autist. BOTYAY
Eupho concert!
Please watch!
Mayu should have stolen Reina from Kumiko for more yuri drama.
I listened to the character songs and Mizore's is the strangest. All of the others are typical upbeat synth anisons while Mizore's is totally different, I don't know what genre it is.
MAYU-CHAN IZZU GODDO!!
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It's amazing that even Reina almost went to NTR with the magical breasts of both men and women.
Mayu: "Kumiko, maybe I should give up after all..."
Kumiko: "Come on, Mayu always says things like that"
Mayu: "But Kosaka-san is better..."
Kumiko: "Reina isn't here anymore"
Mayu: "But..."
Kumiko: "The only one who's special to me is Mayu"
Mayu: "I'm so happy! Hug me tight"
Is Mayu the type to be bubbly and warm and affectionate in relationships?
I feel sorry for Mayu-chan because she is still being told that Kuroe Mayu is malicious!
How many babies?
Mayu: "Kumiko, I think we should break up after all."
Kumiko: "Geez, Mayu never changes."
Mayu: "Well, I read in the main thread that Tomoyo is cold towards yuri!"
Kumiko: "The person inside has nothing to do with it."
Mayu: "Really?"
Kumiko: "Yeah, Mayu is special to me."
Mayu: "I'm happy!"
She;s the type to grope Kumiko's breasts and crotch in the bath
We were cheated and it's all NHK's fault
I read that Natsuki and Yuuko LN that came out and it was the most boring shit ever, is the new collection of short stories any good
well Mizore is a very strange person!
tfw no Taki verbal abuse character song
i like that Tsubame became Mayu's friend because then we got to get a lot more shots of the percussionists who are prettier than Tsubame
Mayu is proactive and says, "I like Kumiko."
Mayu-chan is more assertive: "I like Reina-chan."
Mayu-chan is even more assertive: "Shuichi likes me."
Why did S3 kill the hype?
Kanade becomes the sacred object of a cult religion
It's a 10 year old franchise. It's only natural that there's less hype with time.
Mayu is the type of person to get emotionally and physically abused in relationships. She seems like someone who would be easy to gaslight.
Kanade is so cute, the poison from the jellyfish has spread and she has become soft and weak.
Eventually, if she doesn't take Mayu regularly, her body will have withdrawal symptoms, so she goes to the Oumae Counseling Center for counseling on how to get rid of Mayu.
Your points might be debatable and up to anons opinion but yea, season 3 was great
After S3, I hate Reina
Is that weird?
Yes.
After S3, I love Mayu
Is that weird?
No. Mayu is great.