Who was this moron supposed to appeal to

People who like edginess, like me and many others.

I like Vegeta and he commited multiple genocides anon. Unlike Sasuke he actually got character development before the last chapter

the last arc, when he joined the demon faction most gung ho about invading earth and eating all the humans they want to prove might makes right

To be fair he wasn't working with Team Urameshi then so it techinically wouldn't be backstabbing, just being on opposite sides

Crazy how Sasuke still filters the illiterate.

stacy girls

You're just a retarded shonentard if 1.5 dimensional vegeta is your example of character development. Turning from good to bad isn't character development, retard

Crazy how Kishimoto fanboys keep chewing his squid

reminder that sasuke only ever beat those shitty ninjas at the beginning of the zabuza arc, he lost to everybody else.

but itachi

he was holding back

but kabuto

itachi did most of the job.

Naruto is a mediocre shounen, but Sasuke is one of the best things about it.

Turning from good to bad isn't character development, retard

It is.

Sasuke was fine in Part One, but turned to shit in Part Two and it lasts for most of the manga

It's not character development, it's a cliche. Vegeta went from being a mildly interesting villain to Goku's bitch. You cucks only like him because of the underdog complex. His character writing is shit, much like most of Dragon ball's.

See

based I like frieza

Vegeta is likeable while Sasuke isn't. It's as simple as that

its still development, doesnt matter if its cliche or not

Sasuke makes stupid decisions motivated by emotion
Unlike Naruto who makes stupid decisions because he's stupid

Vegeta is likeable to you because he was purely black and white. One moment he is the cool villain with no morality baggage, then in the next moment he is Goku's bitch which drives up the underdog complex of all his fans. He is similar to Gaara without having half the depth of Gaara. Shonentards like mildly warm cliches so perhaps he is more likeable to them. He has no MC aura though. A series focused on him would be shit because there is nothing to his character beyond le fighting and being jealous of kakarotto. Sasuke is the opposite. He has more MC aura than the MC of his series. He is polarizing because his actions aren't black and white. He subverts the rival cliche, which is why low IQ shonentards find him unlikeable. They don't like him because he doesn't fit into their tropes and shonentards don't have the intelligence to appreciate anything that doesn't play by the tropes.

In adulthood, you appreciate his character. His life was fucked up and based on the flashbacks kid Sasuke was clearly a weak and timid child so of course growing up he handled his fucked up past poorly because he was never meant to be an edgy guy and was forced into it by PTSD.
Kakashi's life was worse but based on the flashbacks he was always tough even as a kid, so he handled his fucked up childhood a lot better when he grew up. Sasuke's actions are understandable, but that doesn't mean he should be forgiven. He was weak just like Itachi said, and was given an unfortunate hand in life.

15-year-old me, just like Riku and Zuko as well

development is a good thing. if I don't like it it's a bad thing therefor it's not development

Turning a villain into a hero is such an overplayed cliche that calling it development is equivalent to praising Toast for being warm. Toriyama didn't even bother to explain Vegeta's face turn. He just went ahead and gave him a son with Bulma lol. It's trash tier writing. If you call this development, then it's obvious your brains didn't get any development.

How was Kakashi's life worse? He lost his father and hated the village then lost his friends too, but Sasuke's whole clan was genocided by his most favorite person in the world and he was mentally tortured with all that murder when he was just 7 years old.

It's not character development, it's a cliche.

and things are white and black never grey

He's literally me tho

Sasuke was fine. He reacted like an emotional teenager with too much power. The only part that was silly was after they beat kagura/madara. That shit was maximum edgelord and spits in the face of all the lessons that led there

based HieiGOD

You clearly weren't reading properly if KAKUMEI felt out of place to you.

He was perfectly justified to do what he did until he went full retard and randomly decided that all of Konoha had to die rather than just the elders who called for the genocide of the Uchihas. Even then, he ended up walking it back and becoming reasonable again after the kage infodump.

literally me fr fr

hiei absolutely crushes Sasuka from personality, to style, to abilities

Hell no. He is just dimestore vegeta with no personality beyond being le stronger.

People who don’t like shitty MCs
People who like insane characters and segments because Sasukes wild ride was absolutely kino n

People with a victim complex who want to lash out at the world and kill their enemies self-insert as and relate to Sasuke. That's why they think that Sasuke should have won. They don't see him as the antagonist lost in "darkness" he was supposed to be.

Sasuke is just "muh revenge." He's a dimestore Kurapika without the other emotions. Hiei has a soft spot for Yukina. Just that makes him more complex than Sasuke. Take away everything Hiei has and just leave his intent to take revenge on his mother and you have Sasuke.

Why is Edgy supposed to be used an insult regarding Sasuke? He saw his family murdered by his brother and then it turns out his brother was forced to do it. That would drive anyone insane

if sasuke died in part 1, the plot of naruto would still be the same
kishimoto has no reason to keep wanking this character

Sasuke is the one driving the plot forward. When part 2 came out, everyone was saying online Naruto feels like a side character and was overshadowed. Nardo’s whole motivation is based around Sasuke

In adulthood, you appreciate his character

it's the exact opposite
obsessing over revenge is childish

Turning a villain into a hero is such an overplayed cliche that calling it development is equivalent to praising Toast for being warm.

I think the problem is that you think someone is praising something. It is development. The toast is warm. That's it, full stop. No idea where you're getting praising from.

sasuke's own arc has nothing to do with the main plot
sasuke could take huge shit and it's still unrelated to the main plot

naruto's motivation to save sasuke is for sasuke's arc, not for the main plot

Anons are dumbasses who don't have the mental capacity to imagine themselves being in the shoes of a fictional character, the average anon will cry about every minor inconvenience in real life yet they think that seeing their whole family getting killed several times in the tsukuyomi would not fuck them up lol.

2004 was a different time.

itachi could kill himself instead of following orders, he's not scared of sacrificing his life
even his friend shisui also killed himself
nobody forced itachi

when he was just 7 years old

That's kinda the point. Kakashi was old enough to have genuine bonds outside of his family, and he lost that too. Sasuke was too young to be all that attached to his clan, he mostly just cared about his parents and brother and that's where his suffering ended whereas Kakashi continued to suffer emotionally long past his adolescence. And I would argue that your only family, his father, killing himself and you're the first one to find out about it by walking in on him dead in your own home is more traumatic than a tragedy out of your control. You'd feel like you were a worthless son. Then you find out your best friend who was your hero is actually the villain who hates you. You'd feel like a failure of a friend, especially since you killed your other best friend. You'd feel like just a straight failure vs Sasuke who again wasn't at fault at all so it's less of a burden.

edgy teens like I was

justifying being edgy

committing sins is never okay, even if the satan tortures you
and in the last chapter sasuke finally repented, which means what he did was wrong

I'm not saying that what he did wasn't wrong, just that he had reasons to act that way from his point of view.

the AVENGERS

Sasuke is 10x the character your shitty, irrelevant loser manlet and twinks are.

Dollar store when Sasuke is known while nobody gives a fuck about Hiei or Kurapika (literally who?)

Gaara has been a much bigger threats to Konoha and was complicit for a coup that actually happened but a lot of morons in the fandom will act like Sasuke did the biggest damage when all he did was just kill Danzo, he literally never attacked Konoha nor was he even planning to.

Gaara was a child. Sasuke was not.

Sasuke was also divided over his love for Team 7 and pursuing revenge, then later between justice for Itachi and being the bigger man and stopping the cycle of hatred. Hiei is a stock character. Barely a character to be honest. His soft spot for his sister never becomes anything meaningful or develops in any meaningful way. For the most part he is just, "i m ur ribaru" and that’s it. You're just simpleminded.

Kurapika has only some specific things comparable with Sasuke, he is more similar to Killua if anything.

That is the main plot.

Those who have and NTR fetish.

So divided. So complex.

Sasuke did nothing wrong.

t. Ninja Jesus, 7th Hokage, and the savior of the world.

edgelord teens and self inserting girls that self isnerted as suckura

This is true. A spanish (European Spain) MAL user 4 years older than me had him as one of her favorite characters.
Truly, like Mei, they think 'I can fix him.'

Let's conveniently forget everything that led up to this. Or even why he was acting like this which multiple characters noted was OOC.

You got factions mixed up. Hiei joined the more moderate of the two.

saving sasuke is not the main plot

hinata being pissed in these types of fanarts is always funny

Agreed.Pic related too

If Naruto thought that they wouldn't have fought and blown their arms off.

Nta but it is, Naruto says that if he's not capable of saving his best friend then he doesn't deserve to be called a hokage which is his whole motivation.

Sasuke was clearly meant to be the personification of Shinobi world's hate. You have the template to all tragic Naruto backstories in his backstory. That was Kishimoto's way of tying the ribbon on the story when he was won back.

Getting Sasuke back was the main plot of most of part 2, what the fuck are you on about?

it's ok when my fav does it

Neck yourself, faggot. Hiei is shit and held up my nostalgia boomers. Sasuke turning on his friends made way more sense than whatever the fuck was the last few arcs of YYH.

saving sasuke in orochimaru base

failed

saving sasuke after itachi fight

failed

saving sasuke after danzo fight

failed

saving sasuke in the valley of the end

succeed

these are just procrastinated side arc which never resolved until the last chapter, because kishimoto is lazy

[incoherent babbling]

Seethe, retard.

naruto is being humble in terms of having moral standards

if I can't even fix this little thing, I'm not worthy of shit

the point is to give respect to the little thing by exaggerating its value
like naruto calling shitbito the coolest, because shitbito is now on his side
"uooooohhhhhhhhh my wife is so fucking great, no women greater than my wife"
"uoooooohhhhhhhhhhh my child is so fucking great, no children greater than my wife"
every single retard says this to cope with how worthless their value is, when all humans are just dust in space, if they exist or not means jackshit to the universe

too stupid to understand

if an arc is resolved, no more story for that character

Who was this moron supposed to appeal to

Abused people, he even comes with emotional support blonde brother from another mother

Doesn’t it kind of destroy the message of the series having Sasuke and every other antagonist bend the knee to Naruto’s views only after they get their ass kicked? It just means that the strongest determines what’s right and wrong

that's just everyone
everyone hating on each other, until gaara's speech unite them in shinobi alliances
also when sasuke fought madara, we don't see a lot of hatred from sasuke, did he forget to hate?

Yumes who wanted to fix him, and fujos who wanted to see him have sex with Naruto and Itachi.

Sasuke is not a "little thing", he's the last member of a powerful clan that has the power to destroy the world if he joins the wrong side which is what Naruto is trying to stop from happening, also because he was the first person to ever understand how he feels while everyone hated him or were clueless about how lonely he really felt having no family

bad guys given up because naruto's resolve is undestroyable

It does. But Kishimoto is a hypocrite retard and doesn't see the issue. Also see Shikamaru putting everything on the line for revenge and being praised for it.

He ironically managed to get it perfectly right with Zabuza, but turns out that was just a fluke.

yes, he's being wanked by the writer
given rikudou power despite not having senju blood, that's how much the writer would go, even through asspull

This is just like in real life, i used talk-no-justu with my toddler brother but that retard won't listen until you beat his ass.

What i said about him being the only person to ever understand Naruto is still true though, that's enough of a reason to make Naruto be commited to try his hardest to save him as a fellow orphan

Narutards.

a 16 year old fixing mental health of men in their 40s is crazy

Try me bitch

Sasuke is a copy of Hiei and Vegeta, Kishimoto never hid it

Also he's voiced by Nobuyuki Hiyama (Link, Gai Shioshi, Viral) while Sasuke is voiced by literal who Noriaki Sugiyama (Uruyishida, Shiro "People die when they are killed:)

People say Naruto and Sasuke’s friendship was forced and I do agree Naruto’s obsession was ridiculous. However, the series makes it clear that ninjas are messed up people and their concept of friendship is clearly not the same as the one we have in the real world. Plus, Naruto suffers greatly from attachment issues. Makes sense he’d attach to someone his age who risked his life for him and saw him as a worthy rival

However, the series makes it clear that ninjas are messed up people and their concept of friendship

This doesn’t hold up when you consider that Hashirama and Madara’s friendship was far more convincing and well done in just 6 chapters

too bad most of Naruto audience are from the real world and project Naruto and Sasuke relationship on themselves. So tha hate is valid, narutard

Also Chouji and Shikamaru

Nobuyuki Hiyama also did Harunobu Madarame from Genshiken.

I need an explanation why black people love him so much

why would basketball americans like anime, it's gae and zesty

People were already seething about Sasuke just for leaving Konoha in part 1, though. Also, there's not that much of a difference between being 13 and being 15.

I honestly don't even think Sasuke is that bad a character, just kind of meh for me insofar as I understand what the author was going for but felt that the execution was kind of clumsy, it's most of his fans that are fucking insufferable.

His goal was to change the shinobi world. He didn’t really give a shit about Madara.

Uchihas were closer to Rikudou than the Senjus, you retard.

they don't, the negros are into dragon ball or something

I thought they were more Madara kinda pipo

I remember when Obito said this and Narutofag were angry about Sasuke not seething and crying like Vegeta would.
Him didn't gaf and having his own goal (unrelated to the Naruto) had so many people angry for years.

he only cared about naruto's growth in power in part 1, where they're still rivals

OG: 2000s emos
Early Shippuden: more tame but same
Hebi: pretty normal protag so everyone
Taka: 2010s edgelord
Edo itachi - vs naruto: post manipulated/groomed young adults
The last: cis females
Boruto + Retsuden : single moms

cis

dufuck das mean? you nigs invent retarded words like its no tomorrow

Hebi was probably when Sasuke was at his most hated because of his plot armor, though.