Hunter X Hunter

Prince Woble, control yourself.

Ging is Beyond tier. He isn't concerned with the likes of Hisoka.

i still laugh myself to sleep whenever i think about this image

Hisoka has experienced nen after death, he is netero tier.

but zushi mastered the fundamentals, hes alluka tier

Based on narrative importance, Ging high diff.

The rape festivals and all the royals
Ging and Hisoka stand no chance against those who already won

Does it have something to do with Luzurus beast?

on one hand, I'm excited for martial law finally being implemented, because it means benjamin and his men will take the spotlight and I love those guys, along with kaiser and whoever he's working for, this event could be the thing that causes ben's inevitable assassination as a result of several parties working together against him, but, on the other hand, martial law means an almost full halt to every single other subplot on the ship, so things like chrollo searching for the treasures and the special nen user, the hunt for hisoka, kurapika's classes or morena's goons leveling up will probably have to stop, and this could affect the pacing a lot, by having entire chapters of characters stuck at a place/situation, starting with the borksen and morena game, now they can't just kill her, but also she can't leave either.

Both of them are boys

Masterful gambit, Togashi-san

Luzurus can't lose now that MARTIAL LAW has been activated. He can just sit in his room and have his nen beast set up a gazillion traps.

Friendly reminder that Benjamin is chaste, and didn't partake in degenerate rape rituals.

but his hidden son!?

Sex for the sole purpose of procreation doesn't count.
He represents an alternative to the debauchery of the other Kakin royals.

Kys

Tubeppa stick just SKYROCKETED btw.

reminder that this is the calibre of retards trying to argue with me. one claiming ren is emission, one claiming ten + ren is enhancement. oh yea, they're winning the argument for real

RYU. IS NOT. ENHANCEMENT.

yeah wtf
the basic exercises don't belong to any category

Isn't the basic+advanced nen techniques really just about moving and controlling aura? It has nothing to do with the nen categories. Its just that since aura's default effect is Enhancement, your standard use is to buff things.
But all of them can be used with any other category. For example, En is just expanding your aura into a sphere around you, and Killua can use Transmutation to turn that into an electrical sphere around him.
Thats always been my understanding.

That's what he was already doing!

aura's default effect isn't enhancement. that's just headcanon. aura is aura. enhancement is a category, and those only apply to hatsu. just because killua is a transmuter, doesn't mean he can't use ren as effectively as gon. the advanced techniques are literally just the basic ones combined. ken is ren that is controlled with ten. how would combining those two, which are completely agnostic, magically create new aura that's enhancement?

Meaning he's a goner in the Dark Continent when he trips off a cliff to fall to his death only to do a cool flip and land safely in a nest of Hellbell

I literally can't imagine Luzurus losing, he is literally doing the most optimal strategy possible at all times.

do nothing

win

Killua can use Ren just as effectively as Gon

So is Killua just massively weaker than Gon or what?
Enhancement boosts the basic techniques. All things equal, an enhancement will always have better shu, better ren, better ken etc etc
Their speed will be better, their durability more impressive. Better offense.
That's why kurapika wanted to be an enhancer.

Their speed will be better,

Uvogin was one of the slowest member in Phantom Troupe

that's not "gon = enhancer therefore gon has stronger ren." that's "gon has been stated to have abnormally massive aura quantities." and no they will not. enhancement only comes into play with hatsu. they have to actually use enhancement nen to bolster their abilities further

He's too big. Didn't you read? "All else equal".
Him being so big makes momentum and weight work against him. Especially in high powered nen fights

Its also why Killua is so damn fast. If he was Silva sized, he would be a lot less nimble. Moving 45 kgs is different from moving 100+ kgs

Would you watch Killua's streams?

I thought his lack of speed and "dumbness" against Kurapika had to do with his drunkenness

Killua can do Gon's jajanken punch if he likes to. Its just a basic application of nen techniques - it's just that enhancers can do these techniques at max efficiency and put a lot more aura into each application of the technique.

Its also why Kurapika can defend and attack more easily when he's in Red eyes mode.

Also when he fought against Kurapika he was too drunk...

rock is ko + enhancement nen, making it an application of hatsu and a nen ability. scissors is ko + transmutation nen, making it an application of hatsu and a nen ability. do you understand?

also, your argument is so dumb. killua can also do kurapika's chains if he wants. anyone can copy anyone's hatsu with enough effort

Lmao this headline is so fucking perfect for the SW.

Are Chrollo's stolen abilities counted as his own abilities? He does need to use his own nen to make those abilities work.

Ten, Ren, Gyo, Ken, Shu and Ko are all Enhancement.

How is "an application of ~enhancement nen~" a hatsu?
Gon didnt have a hatsu until CA arc

his ability probably allows him to use them to the potential their creator used them. otherwise what's the point in stealing anything emission or transmutation based

aura's default effect isn't enhancement. that's just headcanon. aura is aura. enhancement is a category, and those only apply to hatsu

Holy shit. Read slower, speedy.

rock is ko + enhancement nen

Ko IS enhancement. Using an aura to enhance own body (or tool) is enhancement, thus enhancers have more offense/defense power than other nen categories.

his ability probably allows him to use them to the potential their creator used them

Unlikely. Otherwise he could've borrowed Ripper Cyclotron and just finished Hisoka that way.
Or Double Machine Gun.
It's an easy imagination exercise: if Chrollo stole Big Bang Impact, would it be as strong as Uvo's? Surely not.

do you know what hatsu is?

you keep posting this as if i haven't made a counterargument every time that you have never been able to refute. keep trying, pajeet

not even gonna bother with this bait anymore

Say why enhancers have more offense/defense power than others. That is because it is enhancement.

because they supplement their aura with their enhancement nen. next question

I sure do love togashi endlessly building things up and resolving them like deflating balloon

It's amazing you have to "explain" this.
READ, retard.

"Enhancers don't need one. They are the most balanced in terms of offense and defense. Practice TEN and REN and you'll produce enough force to be quite destructive."

with their enhancement nen

That's because enhancing body IS enhancement. Like shooting aura is emission. Other nen categories don't have efficiency of enhancement thus they have 20~60% weaker power when enhancing their body.

Why didn’t hisoka use the super speed he had during the getoh fight

Wing quite literally said Ten and Ren would be enough for an Enhancer.
There's no special "Enhancement Nen" in the equation.
The basic techniques ARE Enhancement Nen.

enhancement nen, which is why kurapika's would only be 60% efficiency. if ten and ren were affected by enhancement aptitude, specialists, conjurers, and manipulators would be the worst nen users. and yet they clearly are not

He does, though?
How did he escape the Sun and Moon blast? How did he kill Shalnark?

motherfucker, the entire point of the argument is that the basic techniques, including their advanced applications, are agnostic. further reinforcement using enhancement nen is HATSU and has nothing to do with ken, ryu, etc. emitting nen is emission hatsu, ren and ten are basic techniques

If that was the case then the fight wouldn't last that long:

Chrollo: "Autopilot on"

hisoka: gomu gomu no pistol

problem, chrollokeks?

specialists, conjurers, and manipulators would be the worst nen users

Not "worst Nen users". Worse, on average, in terms of combat.
Who is stronger, Phinks or Shizuku?
Franklin or Kortopi?
Guys like Chrollo are exceptions, but we see his physical stats both in terms of offense and defense are nothing to write home about.

using enhancement nen

There's no such thing as 'enhancement nen'. Enhancers are good at enhancing their own body because it is enhancement. Ko is enhancement so enhancers use stronger Ko than others. Like shooting aura is emission so emitters shoot stronger nen blast than others.

Yes.
Love boi.

Nigger: explain what the fuck Wing meant with "Enhancers don't need one. They're the most balanced in terms of offense and defense. Practice TEN AND REN and you'll produce enough force to be quite destructive."

who is stronger, machi or nobunaga? hisoka or franklin? this argument makes no sense when the entire point of those guys are fighters, and enhancers are generally always fighters because they can just use enhancement nen hatsu 100%

guys like chrollo are exceptions

not helping your case when the guy who's supposed to be only 40% effective in stuff like ken and ryu is able to do just fine vs both zoldycks and also hisoka later on

there's no such thing as enhancement nen

t. thinks nen abilities are just wacky crazy conjurations and specialization abilities only

"practice strengthening your aura and you'll be able to better use your enhancement nen. you don't need a crazy ability, just use your enhancement nen, i.e. your hatsu, to augment your normal combat. that's what it's best at"
there. that's what it means. do you think killua practicing ten and ren doesn't help improve his lightning?

t. thinks nen abilities are just wacky crazy conjurations and specialization abilities only

You're the one who thinks basic enhancement to body isn't enhancement ability though. It is. That is why Enhancer has 100% power, Emitter has 80% power, and Manipulator has 60% power when enhancing their body.

but that's literally enhancement hatsu, i.e. enhancement nen. you just admitted that.

but that's literally enhancement hatsu, i.e. enhancement nen. you just admitted that.

So Ko is enhancement. That is why Enhancer has 100% power, Emitter has 80% power, and Manipulator has 60% power when punching with Ko. You just admitted it.

inb4

Kurta massacre was a Kakin festival

Morena (current) was a kurta child who lived through it

Kurapika will join forces with her once he realizes she's from his clan

Morena will decide not to destroy the world after being convinced by kurapika

Morena (current) was a kurta child who lived through it

Kurta Massacre was 7 years ago.

i didn't? nice gotcha though. how on earth is enhancement hatsu the same as ten and ren? christ you are a fucking dull blade

time travel

it turns out that HxH is just the retelling of the events happening in the future where humans actually know nen and togashi has a time travelling hatsu

how on earth is enhancement hatsu the same as ten and ren

Ko, Ken, Ten, Ren, those power rely on user's enhancement efficiency. Big Bang Impact is just a Ko, using Uvogin's 100% aura to enhance his punch.

reminder that the izunavi page was talking about reinforcing yourself with enhancement, i.e. enhancement hatsu, and not regular ken

and once again, i will not engage in your bait. nice try, play some other time

Hisoka and Franklin have the same efficiency with Enhancement, retard.
Chrollo literally said he didn't have the defense to block Zeno's attack, and his attacks did fuck all damage to Hisoka.

Sex with feKita

Nen blast is emission.
So Enhancer has 80% power, Emitter has 100% power, and Manipulator has 80% power when shooting nen blast.

Ko is enhancement.
So Enhancer has 100% power, Emitter has 80% power, and Manipulator has 60% power when punching with Ko.

This is an AI post

franklin is leaning towards enhancer. so by your definition, he should be strictly stronger

attacks did fuck all to hisoka

uh oh. if hisoka is 80% efficient, how is chrollo, 40% efficient, able to damage him in the slightest? ken and ryu is enhancement, right? chrollo shouldn't be able to put a single scratch on hisoka

no argument? :O shocked

how is chrollo, 40% efficient, able to damage him in the slightest

Maybe Chrollo has bigger aura than Hisoka, or he used his aura well on Hisoka's weakest spot.

by stronger, he should've been able to learn nen reinforcement much faster than hisoka, meaning he'd be stronger by virtue of having mastered it easier*

uh oh. if hisoka is 80% efficient, how is chrollo, 40% efficient, able to damage him in the slightest? ken and ryu is enhancement, right? chrollo shouldn't be able to put a single scratch on hisoka

It all depennds on how much aura Hisoka puts in defense and Chrollo pits in offense at the moment.
Maybe Hisoka was using basic Ten, while Chrollo attacked with 80% Gyo in his fist, or even Ko.

If fujimoto, a raging closeted troon, wrote this halk would take over oito instead

these are the panels before it. hisoka clearly sees chrollo going for him here. no blind spot or surprise attack. yet, chrollo damages him quite a bit even though his enhancement is so much worse? if ten and ren are enhancement, why is hisoka taking damage? i don't get it...

Nobunaga won.

It's been like days now that you spergs have been arguing about the specific details of how a magic power system is supposed to work. And I wouldnt be surprised if it was the same retards since the beginning.
You make the trannies almost look good in comparison

Though i was the only one that got those vibes from Fujimoto lol

no blind spot or surprise attack. yet, chrollo damages him quite a bit even though his enhancement is so much worse?

If Chrollo's aura is twice bigger than Hisoka's, then his offense will be as strong as Hisoka's defense. Also maybe Chrollo used Ko and Hisoka used Ken, then Chrollo quickly returned to Ken just before Hisoka hit him with head.

better than martial law posting by far

tfw I want the spiders to go ham and kill anyone who opposes them

Have I become a Luinifag?

says izunavi

posts bisky

Not the one you're arguing btw

chrollo's kick with ko: 100 base + 40 nen
hisoka's defense with ken: 100 base + 40 nen (half of 80, since ken is equalized offense and defense)
therefore, no matter what chrollo does, he can at the very least never damage hisoka
therefore
do you understand now why ten and ren are not enhancement techniques?

Not really

it was a counter argument to the izunavi page posters by posting a direct contradiction, you fucking mong. i guess i should expect esls to be posting at this hour, it's morning where they are

I think Chrollo is weaker than Uvogin.

chrollo's kick with ko: 100 base + 40 nen

hisoka's defense with ken: 100 base + 40 nen
It means Chrollo and Hisoka's aura power will be balanced. Then tell me, without aura offense and defense, what happens if a grown man stomp on your stomach? No damage you say?

We don't have info on their MAP, PAP and AAP to make such calculations.

Sure, we should assume it based on feats we saw. If Chrollo can tank Zeno's attack and damage Hisoka, it means Chrollo has immense aura to compensate low enhancement efficiency, or at least he is extremely good at Ryu.

Ahhh I see
I thought you were sperging out of nowhere

wins by doing nothing

The Gaben strat, eh?

Morena will meet Leorio, fall in love, and change her evil ways

Ging. But i'd be more interested in whether he can break Hisoka mentally. The jester needs therapy.

Everyone's assuming martial law was declared because of something to do with Halkenburg or Luzurus, but what if it was actually pic related?

togashi doesn't have the balls to kill woble

Sarahell fail

Kurapika reveals everyone about nen curse via intercom

REEEEEEE MARTIAL LAWWWWW

Thinking abt it not even a psychiatric hospital patient would consecutively Rape,murder and steal. Thats what a 12 yr old mexican boy with no sex educaton does

You can be weaker than a person but you can still damage them if you try hard enough

How does waching gore and cutting urself transform u into a notorious S-list Nen enchanted criminal

Pubes at 38-39, and 43 o'clock.

What is your anticipation and exitement level for the next chapter? Feels like it's been ages since shits have actually went down thats been as bad as martial law.

Wasn't there an image Togashi leaked on xitter that had some text about Cammy's room? I'm betting this martial law business has to do with Cammy and her followers.

It is Bonolenov's Battle Cantabile Jupiter.

Gonna taper expectations for myself and prepare for a 2 hours earlier flashback to Kurapika doing boring shit

It's ironic. Cammy is so impatient, yet she chose a strategy that requires a lot of time to implement. The curses are more effective the longer they wait to use them. It's not her style at all. Reminds me of Cheetu.

next chapter returns to Kurapika's nen class(9am)

Sarahell is watching Kurapika's security and waiting for opportunity

Silent Majority reappeared

Nothing else happens

Isn't she Sailor moon character?

The curses are more effective the longer they wait to use them.

Doesn't this imply that Camilla will be one of the last princes standing, since her curses will only become a real threat during the last leg of the voyage?

I'd be fine with a Benjamin or Dogman/Chrollo chapter, anything else would kill the hype

We're going to see Woble's nen beast soon thanks to Sarahell.

I just realized that Morena probably was awakened because someone used nen while raping her.

Keep it in your pants, weirdo.

soon

Sarahell won't just charge to Woble since the first day. She will patiently wait until the opportunity comes, maybe when Silent Majority reappears, or maybe the last day's water divination.

Is there a single hunter x hunter fan that gives a shit about silent majority? It's the most irrelevant, boring plot point in this arc.

silent majority

Togashi forgot.

Yes we're back at Kurapika's nen classes after this card game is over don't worry

whats that?

People expect this to be like in palace invasion but I doubt it. I think things will simmer with very important but brief moments while there is more bureaucracy involved, although I hope the opposite.

What if the Zodiacs actually do something this batch?

Impossible

[Category] nen is not a thing retard

We already solved it. It's pic related.

Kurapika is doing a better job than Mizai, Cheadle and Botobai, I still can't believe people are hyping up the latter

Obviously not. It's not like Chrollo has Emperor Time.

Chrollo is a specialist. He should be 100% efficient, but only able to master enhancement techniques up to level 4 (as a level 10 specialist, for example), judging by Kurapika and what Morena says about specialists. I imagine levels are based on hatsu complexity. So Komugi's ability is very high level, whereas Uvogin's punches are simple techniques but very powerful. So Quwrof should be able to punch pretty hard. He was able to tango hand-to-hand with two Zoldycks.

A better job at what? Babysitting some kid? The Zodiacs are keeping the entire ship afloat.

No they're not. Benjamin would have killed half of the princes by now if no one knew about nen.

Emperor Time.

1 second of usage shaves away 1 hour of his lifespan

He's a known nen user. Why would he try to assassinate people when he'd be one of the first ones to fall under suspicion?

Yes, they are. The princes are irrelevant, the Zodiacs have no use for them. Their priority is to keep this ship afloat until it reaches the New Continent and they've been successful thus far.

He has a lot of conditions on the ability to steal them, it would make sense if he gets to use the ability just as well as the original user. Kurapika's Steal Chain lets a third party use the stolen ability on that level. Sure Kurapkia is using Emperor Time to do that, but he has so far only granted abilities to people who previously couldn't even use nen, yet they could make proper use of those abilities.

You got it the wrong way around. He'd be at 40% efficiency but able to master enhancement techniques up to his full level.

Man, Togashi really fucked up nen, didn't he?

Either that or Morena doesn't know anything about nen or she's just lying

He did use rubber nen to move faster/pull himself but the arena was too open for him to dart around in multiple directions.
The one he used on Shalnark he developed after the Chrollo fight. If you look closely he uses his nen-made foot prosthesis to propel himself forward. That's probably more equally fast but doesn't require a target to be pulled towards.

Doesn't know anything? She has one of the most complex hatsus in the entire series.

No. At least in Kurapika's case, he is restricted, level wise, as any other conjurer, but his effectiveness is 100%.

uses rubber nen for multiple complex manipulations, ergo not full use of his aura

opponent blindsides him with an undefended kick to the face

said kick is likely using gyo at the very least to power it

hisoka didn't see the counter coming, and so isn't defending with more than some basic amount of his aura across his body

Basic nen combat principles explain this exchange. Chrollo *is* overall weaker and cannot stand and trade with hisoka. It would be a losing proposition. But he can still use basic techniques to good effect using tactics. The same as what Kurapika used against uvogin, who overpowered him considerably.

I'll make Morena fall for me by killing peoples in creative ways!

Kurapika is only a specialist while his scarlet eyes are active, so he can't train as a specialist.

Ken and Ryu are not strictly enhancement but aura control. Its something like what Ging showcased, being able to move your aura around your body however you like.
It also depends on how much aura you've got. A 200 aura ken against a 100 aura ken always wins, so the 100 aura guy has to use ryu to counter while the 200 doesn't. I'm not saying Chrollo has more aura than others but he probably isn't a pushover either. Looking at all nen users we saw, the amount of aura is congenital but also snowballs over time through basic practice like constant ten and ken usage. Enhancer probably snowball faster in that field that other categories.

Why do we blindly believe any characters' explanation about nen in this series? Its just their description to the observation of a natural phenomena.
These characters' understanding of nen could be similar to ancient scientists' teachings of the Earth being flat and the Sun revolvs around the Earth

Counterpoint: chrollo basically only uses adjacent hatsu for combat
Manipulation, conjuration only for 90% of the time. When does he ever dip out of these categories ?

Tell us more, bro.

How do you guys interpret this page? Does this mean that phinks en has a range of 100+ meters?

Because it's just a story, retard. All that info is actually coming from the author.

Heart sign(?)

Balsamilco's back and finally confessed his love to Benjamin

No, it just means if he used En (let's say he's Kite tier at around 50 meters although I doubt it) and ran around a bit they might ping the target but because that's not possible they have to use the tracker which is less accurate than en would be.

Chrollo likes interesting abilities and Conjuration is the king of cool weird shit.
If I had to guess Sun and Moon probably has some Emission involved since you've gotta charge the target with aura.

So? Kurapika's specialisation = conjuration with 100% effectiveness. The levels are the same, the effectiveness isn't. If you mean to say he doesn't have access to 100% effectiveness unless he trains for it, of what relevance is the above page? Emperor time shouldn't boost him at all, then. Even if that was the case, Chrollo could train enhancement as a specialist up to 100% effectiveness, so there's no conundrum regarding his performance against Hisoka or the Zoldycks.

How strong is she?

Stronger than Hisoka

She puts the L in clown

He probably has a large en but has shit control. If anything in his radius can disrupt him imagine trying inside the giant boat full of people. He'd just attract attention and probably gain nothing.

Here's the new nen chart btw

he's still at it

he still doesn't have an argument

All this talk about effectiveness is stupid. Those percentages are a rough estimate of a nen user's proficiency at certain usages of nen and therefore how fast they can learn those things. Enahncers are like people good at sports, conjurers are good at art, manipulators are good with people and so on. Anyone can learn those skills but they might never catch up to one whos gifted and practices just as much.
Emperor time and Skill Thief bypass that by stealing the full, already developed nen. After that, the difference in output differs due to the aura amounts and the experience in using said hatsu but the baseline is the same. The original user, so long its a suitable hatsu, probably could develop it while Pika or Chrollo might not be able to.

mangareader

Look, I know you like huffing Togashit's farts, but even you have to admit giving specialists unlimited power is fucking stupid.

Can someone just fucking write Togashi in Japanese so he explains it

You're supposed to ignore bait, anon

They're literal gods. That's a fact. That's the genius writing your precious Togashi came up with. You may not like it, but that's what you have so deal with it, loser.

Holy mental illness

Strong enough she chose a retarded hatsu because she doesn't need it

I don't see the problem.

SeeEven at the same level of skill in emission a conjurer will only get 40% the effectiveness out of a technique as a emitter.

Specialisation is the most esoteric category and requires the most brain power/data procession capabilities. So you either are a 1000IQ individual (impossible) or you're an idiot savant whose autism channels all brain power into one direction (like Komugi). In reality, it probably lands somewhere in between, with a braniac genius with an obsessive mind like Chrollo or Kurapika. On the idiot side you've got people like Komugi or Camilla. The highest IQ one is probably Meruem as he was not fully human.

vehemently samefagging

This is 100% the "hetfag" guy who had multiple meltdowns this month

Like the one you're having right now?

That's just a limit of talent, not a hard set value. It's like someone with perfect pitch and someone without. All practice tend to yield dismissing returns the higher the skill level and nen is similar. The top 20% probably requires more practice than the bottom 80%.

I'm not the one posting the same shit on repeat for 10 hours straight though

Specialist can learn any nen categories' skills up to level 10.
Emperor Time can use any nen abilities he learned with 100% efficiency.

If you mean to say he doesn't have access to 100% effectiveness unless he trains for it

Skill isn't efficiency. For example, Conjurers, who can learn Emission up to level 4, cannot learn teleportation which is an advanced skill of Emission. They still have access to Emission's most basic skills but it is just 40% of strength.
Specialist can learn teleportation but the strength will be 40% of emitters. Emperor Time doesn't let you use teleportation but you can use basic skills with 100% efficiency.

Specialist can learn teleportation but the strength will be 40% of emitters

*I mean 60%.

I hate brown people so much it's unreal

All I did was post one image and you flew off the handle and have been throwing a tantrum for hours lmao

...who cares?

No, you mean you had multiple meltdowns this month.

Why would Togashi make all specialists Mary Sues?

doesn't deny it

Done

throwing a tantrum for hours

Nice projection, I was gone for about 8 hours and you're still having your spergout

I really don't see how you can get that from that page when it separates the level of skill one can reach from the effeteness.

still crying

I hate group play so much it's unreal

Wow, the retcons never end with Togashit.

I kinda forgot about it since it's been so long it's been mentioned. But when I read again I do get engaged.
Iunno why it is made to be such a mystery tho, it could've been revealed already. I'm not gonna lose my mind when it's revealed some random maiden servant was the user all along.

That's not a new revelation.

Yeah, you only bitch about them every 5 seconds, white boy. Maybe get a life?

enhancers are canonically retarded

pic related is an enhancer

It all makes sense now.

Wasn't Meruem Emission?

Actually, it is, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Ko, Ken and Shu are confirmed enhancement techniques and benefits massively from the user being an Enhancer.
Samefagging.

In emperor time, Kurapika can use level 4 emissive abilities as a level 10 'conjurer'. That suggests he can't learn level 5 or more, unless his level as a conjurer increases. This also suggests emperor time = scarlet eyes on. At no point is it stated anywhere that specialists can learn any ability at any level, or that emperor time is distinct from Kurapika being in specialist mode.

The "leaning towards" only affects proficiency, not efficiency.
Chrollo stomped Hisoka's head on the ground there. It did no damage.
Hisoka with a less lethal punch one-shot Shalnark. There's a huge difference in strength due to their difference in Enhancement.

what would you enhance if you were an enhancer

My ability to become a specialist.

If you're born anything other than a specialist, you lost the genetic lottery and should just off yourself.

Sarahell activates the curse

Misfires and kills Furykov

MARTIAL LAW

Screencap this.

The curse can't hit the wrong person, speedy.

a restriction to become specialist in exchange for hours of life is super worth it if you are involved in potentially lethal nen combat, a no brainer even.

My emission skills.

Would be a lot funnier if it could.

deviantart.com/marto878/art/Hunter-x-Swap-Kurapika-and-Machi-Body-Swap-1114745549

Soon

I like how much work they have to come up with while Beyond has curse children that aren't even aware they are ticking nen-bombs.

Shut the fuck up, retard. There is no "default" aura, an Enhancer will ALWAYS use Enhancement aura because that's their TYPE. Anyone can use Ko and Ken, but Enhancers are better at them because they are techniques that literally ENHANCES the body. How the fuck is that hard to understand?

Cute Bork

ITT: Secret Specialists

Why do so many people misunderstand Emperor Time? Is it really that complicated?

It shouldn't exist to begin with.

Fucking amateurs am I right?

My mind and tongue so I'm always able to communicate my thoughts across without struggling to find or say the right words.

In emperor time, Kurapika can use level 4 emissive abilities as a level 10 'conjurer'

So are you saying Kurapika is level 10 conjurer, not level 10 specialist, when using scarlet eyes?

What's up with the masks in asian culture?

Two reasons:

dreaded Japanese cold will hospitalize you

air pollution is awful

My headcanon is that Meruem was a double specialisation guy. His ant self was a specialist with the aura steal by devouring people ability. His human self was an emitter, shown by his apex tier en control.

Looks more mysterious while hiding ugly teeth.

For streamers it's so that they don't get recognized in public. It's more of a camwhore thing, but some of it is just a matter of high population density and that even a streamer with low views could end up with crazy stalkers.

When he is a specialist(emperor time), he follows the same nen distribution as a typical conjurer, but his effectiveness is 100%. Level 10 conjurer can use level 4 emission with 40% effectiveness. Kurapika with scarlet eyes can use level 4 emission with 100% effectiveness. So let's say there's a laser hatsu that's level 4 emission ability. A level 4 emitter can fire the laser and deal 100 damage. A level 10 conjurer can fire the laser and deal 40 damage. Kurapika is the same when he's a regular conjurer. But when he activates his eyes, he fires the laser dealing 100 damage. He is still capped in terms of what levels he can access, the same way other conjurers are.

Asian foids like them because they often look ugly without. Also, makeup costs money, masks allow them to cut down on it.

Okay, now say it English.

Shut up, nerd.

Reminder that Beyond can one-shot your favorite character.

Scarlet eyes means Kurapika doesn't waste any energy when he uses various ability types. So he's 100% effective. Without the scarlet eyes, he would have to pour a lot of energy into an emissive ability, for example, with relatively weak results. In terms of ability levels (how advanced a hatsu is), he has the same limitations other conjurers have. Emperor time and scarlet eyes are the same thing.

Using , the restriction on learning other categories is two fold: how advanced a technique you can learn (level 1-10) and how much power you can put into the technique (40-100%).
So Kurapika normally is capped at learning up to level 4 Emission, and can only put in 40% power into Emission.
A Specialist (and Scarlet Kurapika) can learn up to level 10 Emission as if they are an Emitter, they have no cap. But they are still locked to 40% power.
Emperor Time removes the power cap fro Kurapika, so he can now also use 100% power.

Its just an interpretation and theory, trying to make this congruent with Emperor Time, but this makes the most sense to me.

Aura default is not enhancement.
You have the effect of enhancement and the effect of adding aura input to your body / attack.
Aura is intention and lifeforce so if you want to punch somebody really hard you pour aura into your attack.
Probably every time somebody attack they are using enhancement subconciously to some level.
But using high level of enhancement on an attack is a conscious application like Gon rock.

We also know thanks to Biscuit and the random Kakin soldier that aura byproduct produce changes on the body.
You can extend your lifespan through continues application of ten.
Biscuit become a massive monster as a byproduct of her training but also the continues effect of her aura on her own body.
A user nen type can be deduced just looking at his aura.
Enhancers produce steady and calm ten, emitters aura range is bigger, so when they compact it with ten it becomes darker.
Etc, etc.
In other words, it's complicated and the author always have enough leeway to do as he pleases.
But Wing was being retarded.

Biscuit, which is on a whole other level, explicit told Killua and Gon that to become better in their nen category they needed to train their adjacent nen categories too.

He can't use abilities beyond what his level as a conjurer allows because he doesn't train as a specialist. His scarlet eyes and his specialist status while using them are separate from emperor time, which is his specialist hatsu.

No, for fucks sake. Look at the pic you responded to. When he is a specialist, he is still limited to level 4 emission. If he isn't, Togashi never says so. The power is what's at 100%. Emperor time isn't some additional thing.

I want to see this but with 1999 Mаchi

I'm pretty sure enhancers excel at concentrating aura in small areas, drastically augmenting their power.
The main special move of an enhancer is ko adjacent, with the focusing of great amounts of aura into a single body part for attacking (big bang attack/rock).
The second most common use is putting a lot of aura in an object, a mix of ko and shu. Nobunaga probably uses something of the sort with his sword.

is the ability to change the properties of your aura (killua hisoka machi etc) rare?

You can become a specialist later in life. Besides, talent is infinitely more important than category.

When he is a specialist, he is still limited to level 4 emission

Because he never learned level 5 emission.

I don't think it is but I can see how it's very tricky to develop a strong ability. The best transformation nen is one that is very simple but also very versatile. Hisoka says transmuters are natural born liars, meaning they have a flexible mindset. The more outside the box you can think, the strongest the end effect even with a hatsu thats simple on the surface.

He wouldn't be able to learn it unless he became a better conjurer.

As rare as there are manipulative people in the world so probably half the planet?

I don´t think Shalnark´s comment would make any sense if he didn´t.

I don´t think a base comparison to Kite or Zeno is fair because they don´t get their En interrupted someone moving a muscle or a mouse making a beep.

Ging is most likely an Emitter or a Specialist

My anime only friends think that Kurapika can use his chains only on spiders and they don't know that he is losing years of his life by using ET

19%

If Kurapika trained as a specialist he'd be able to use all categories up to his full level, but he doesn't because he has Emperor Time permanently active.

does that mean Chrollo can be as strong as Uvogin?

Anyone with their Nen awakened and sufficiently skilled in transmutation would be able to do it.

will kurapika hold his feeing when he sees his friend head on tseridenich wall

He helped create a gigantic theme park made of nen, I would respect the author immensely if he did the right thing and made him a pure conjurer. A conjurer who just happens to be good at understanding nen and replicating moves in a way that is technically impressive but with very low efficiency.

He had help from a lot of people, he wasn't the one who designed the cards or the OS or how any of it worked, remember?
Ging was the "Idea Guy" behind Greed Island. He didn't program it.

I just think he's an emitter or a specialist because of how he copied and modified Leorio's technique, which is really the only clue we have as to his typing right now

Luini was a strawman of people who want the troupe to be one-dimensional villains but deep down he was right. They were cooler in Yorknew when they were a mysterious group of villains, murdering people by the hundreds and their extermination of the Kurta wasn't in doubt.

Where are you niggas getting this information from? It's not the manga. This is not stated anywhere. This() is all we know about levels people can learn in different nen categories. Emperor time is not distinct from scarlet eyes. He simply never explains it before. Using scarlet eyes always took a toll on him.

I seriously think that the lifespan cost is actually new with Steal Chain and was not an intentional condition of how Emperor Time worked in Yorkshin. For one thing the way Kurapika was out of action after the events of Yorkshin and the way he was out of action when Oito spent 3 hours using Little Eye were too different. After Yorkshin he was out for a long time, but when he recovered he was still in poor condition. After overusing Emperor Time with Oito he wasn't nearly as fatigued. I think Kurapika didn't give a proper condition to Emperor Time, and so suffered backlash from overusing it in Yorkshin. Then to avoid such a backlash, and to power Steal Chain/Stealth Dolphin, he added a condition of spending his lifespan, and though he still overused it with Oito the backlash wasn't as severe because of the new condition.

murdering people by the hundreds

Mafia you mean? Kek.

Why is this retard trying to pretend Emperor Time isn't real and is actually a feature of the specialist category?

No, he's a twink, he could never be as strong as the mountain of muscle that was Uvo without some extreme conditions powering him.

Emperor Time reduce his life
for every minutes it takes 1 hour from his life

Even if both managed to enhance their physical strength x10 then Uvo would still come out much stronger since his base strength was stronger.

Yeah but I'm getting the vibe that he specifically went full nerd and started copying Leorio and explaining training techniques because he wanted to hide his true specialty. Copying Leorio's mojo because it's the kind of technique he is the best at would be counter-intuitive to the process of not revealing what he's got in his sleeves.

Machi is stronger than Quwrof and shes a gurl

That's not what i'm saying. I'm saying emperor time is Kurapika activating his eyes. Also()

Mafia still are people. They're not even cartels, but more of an objective section of the economy at that point with signficant sway in the political sphere, economy etc, without necessarily causing maximum carnage.
They themselves explain they are bad at using violence to kill. They're not mass murderers and they require stability to function.

While an objectively negative impact on society as a whole is expected, doing a little mass murder of them cannot be considered good.

The troupe's belligerence and propensity for indiscriminate violence is well established. They don't have a moral compass at all. I'd argue they are a 10 on the scale, if the mafia is a 6. Kakin mafia might be a little worse, but they are also newer and less well established.

Pitou also got tunnel visioned into conjuration and manipulation despite being a specialist. In hindsight she really could have made an amazing hatsu but her desire to fight Kite again made her retarded.

stop taking about dead people

He's gonna beat up Chrollo

is wapol rape festival child ?

I'm saying emperor time is Kurapika activating his eyes.

No it's not you retarded fuck. Only Kurapika has that hatsu, not his entire clan.

Here's a relevant pic to compensate, are you happy now? Will you stop being a fag?

Yeah so what? It was cool.
Also the way Chrollo tortured those assassins with Indoor Fish.
It was two groups of villains going at it against eachother and I loved it.

So do you notice anything?

That's what you get for relying on only partial information gained from a nen novice that you don't even fully question. Pokkle probably didn't know that much about specialists, and Pitou stopped questioning him after getting the bare minimum. Pitou could probably have made a better decision if there was more information available at the time. That said it's possible that she didn't use all of her potential and could have still developed more.

disfigure the face of royal children so they can never make a claim to the throne

Makes sense.

disfigure the faces of all the festival children so you can't even tell which ones are royal or not even though that distinction is important

For what purpose?

Troupe being cool villian was a concept that was already explored in Yorknew, Togashi was never going to bring them back just to repeat the same thing. Remember what he said about ending YYH abruptly because his attempts to deconstruct the characters were turned down by Jump? he didn't want to go on repeating the same storylines over and over. That's why with hxh he tries to make every arc so different from each other and he only brings back old characters if they have something new to bring to the table.

conjurer turn to specialist when his eyes are red

this is just shit writing
what next enhancer became specialist when he get a boner

which is really the only clue we have as to his typing right now

Emitters are "impatient and not detail-oriented". Ging makes a point to tell about how he's in no hurry and how one should enjoy the detours to the fullest.
Furthermore, Ging has shown incredible proficiency with Transmutation and Emission. What category has the easiest time with both?
He also said he can replicate any "strike-type" ability. What are the categories of "strike-type" abilities? Enhancement, Emission, Transmutation.
What type has the easiest time with those categories?
Ging is an Enhancer.

It's not like Hisoka is the only one to have used hearts. Bisky and Belerainte have too, I think some others have but I can only recall with certainty those two.

Terpsichora is a hybrid manip/enhancement ability though.

It's not a hatsu, retard. It's him becoming a specialist. I didn't say all Kurtas are like this either. Find me a manga page that draws a distintion between emperor time and Kurapika becoming a specialist, or that describes what emperor time does, specifically. All the manga ever tells you about emperor time is that it shortens his life span. Scarlet eyes always took a toll on him. It was never specified what that entails precisely up to that point. I'm also, again, referring you to the wiki page. It tells you the same shit, i'm not making shit up by myself,

Quintessential esl post

Hisoka punching someone in the face or someone punching Hisoka in the face

They mark them all at birth, and don't do genetics testing. Any of the kids from the festival could be royal bastards, so they mark them all and sort them out later. It could be that they have some nen process to sort them out.

or that describes what emperor time does, specifically

Scratch this. The stand by the rest.

I didn't even consider that, it makes more sense. To be fair the Ants had terrible abilities all throughout the series, I think only Meleoron and Youpi managed to make a decent hatsu.
True, I was only focusing on the hatsu she used on Kite's corpse. And Terpsichora still feels shallow considering she's a specialist.

CHALLENGE: Make a solid transmuter ability. Doesn't have to be extravagant, but you can make it that way if you wish.

Hisoka is smirking and someone's punching him

It's not a hatsu

Yes it is. He literally pays with years of his own life to use it.

In Kurapika’s case it’s Emperor time that gives him the efficiency. That is completely exclusive to Kurapika.
Morena said Mastery not efficiency. So is exactly wrong

I don’t know why these retards keep misunderstanding that efficiency = emperor time

In the future, would you rather see Kite in DC or Meteor city?

Give my aura the property of cum and just throw it on people.

He believes Hisoka's Nen horoscope

Kalluto sexo...

Why don't you guys just wait for viz and THEN you can keep arguing?

just make your aura hard to transmute it into rocks or steel or something

specialist(emperor time)

You just writing like this makes it clear you have no idea what you’re talking about. Emperor time is an ability he uses while he’s a specialist. It’s not specialism itself.
Kurpika got a specialist on water divination test before he developed emperor.

Your reading is bunk. According to you specialism itself didn’t affect anything at all, he still just a conjueror

Pouf made a pretty good one. He was using his to rapidly develop new hatsu for the ants. Considering his position in leading a number of untrained nen users that had high potential it's hard to say it's a bad one.

does the troupes wanna go to DC or no

because VIZ has been consistently worse than TT

Your aura gains physical weight that you can alter at will. Min wieght is 0, Max weight depends on your current aura output. If you concentrated your aura in a specific part of your body then it will become even heavier.
The weight control is fast enough that it can be done mid-punch.

you fags are worst than wing in term of explaining nen

Hope Hysoka will rape someone...

t. wannabe enhancer

Two translations are out and in both of them Morena specifically says Mastery. Mastery was specifically said to be the levels not the efficiency before.
There is no argument. Stupid people could just never understand how Kurapika’s emperor time works. So they think Emperor Time is what all the specialists have.

Officer Kakin told me to argue right now.

they will either go to the new continent or escape the ship before it arrives (or all die), they have no reason to go to the dc except maybe illumi

If we listen to Hisoka's horoscope I'd be an emitter.

I'll say it, conjuration is the best affinity.

No, retard. Crimson eyes make him a specialist when they're active. Emperor Time is another thing on top of the crimson eyes that allow him to use every nen category with 100% efficiency. Did anyone in chapter zero mention a single time about not wanting to have their eyes turn red because it shortens their life every time it happens?

Turn my aura into big strong hands :)

What if my favorite character is Beyond? What then?

That is what I said.

Conjurers = GODS

He will lose his shit, this is a Chekhov's gun

Beyond can one shot himself.

The lifespan thing is a condition he set. Therefore lifespan condition is not natural to scarlet eyes. Meaning it is connected to Emperor Time.

Dual properties of non-newtonian fluid and a solvent specifically for foreign aura. When struck the aura hardens, and it loosens the bonds of other aura potentially dissolving them. In combination the more foreign aura it absorbs the more viscous it becomes, effectively hardening it even more, but if it absorbs too much aura it can instead become overloaded and soften, potentially taking on the properties of that aura instead. Mainly meant for someone who wants good defense but also to undermine other abilities to force a fight to their favor and to push it towards a physical fight.

Mizaistom talking about a video of these very eyes and Kurapika not seeing it is also specifically for him not knowing about this head.

better train your ko bro if you don't want to get your hand blown up by your own punch

if you enhancer your brain you could replicate Killua lightning god with the plus of being able to enhance your body for more stamina and raw power
Speed > hunga dunga punch
Also enhancing your brain not only would superhumanly improve your reflexes but also your cognition in general

You could simulate in your brain so many scenarios that it would be near precognition.

Here two enhancers using their brain fighting.
youtube.com/watch?v=-U0KlXwNsCk

And Emperor Time is what allows him to have 100% efficiency in all categories.

Your photos are draft of 433-434
And this photo is chapter 431-432 draft

im going to enhance my brain!

mfw im still retarded and I only just think faster

Of course your precondition is to not be retarded.

I wish Genthru was on the boat.

Yes, which has nothing to do with Mastery that is default to specialists

I don't think enhancing your brain would make you any smarter. It would just give you better reflexes/make you think faster. Or make you more sensitive to others emotions, or enhance your memory.

But your actual ability to solve a problem you couldn't already solve if given enough time it wouldn't help if you weren't already smart enough to solve it.

Official tl when

45 minutes

Give my nen properties of water, shoot it towards the enemy and rapidly increase the pressure, making it a razor sharp cut, or the aura in contact with the opponent gets more pressure, acting out the effects of the bends.

They are not gods. Morena only mentions Mastery which means they still have issues with efficiency unless proven otherwise in the future.
As of now Specialists have the exact same efficiency limitations as we always thought
In fact the reality that Kurapika had to come up with a hatsu in order to solve the efficiency issue indicates very strongly that specialists have the efficiency limitations normally.

Give aura properties of acid.

You would also have to face the consequences. Unless you're a freak of nature like Killua you'll get killed by your own ability.

I'm calling it. Morena was an organ donor for the royals.(Most likely for a queen or maybe Camilla). Hence the story's frequent mention of organs. Most likely, her womb was removed so an infertile royal could become pregnant. This is why she is so angry since she is unable to bear children and feels useless as a woman. It also explains why her abilities and the rebuilt Heil-ly mafia have so much parent-child symbolism. Morena wants to be a parent but does not have a womb. This is why Bork is a 'organ donor' in Morena plan.

The rape theory doesn't really make sense considering Kakin belief in bloodline purity and imperial worship.They didn't know which child is royalty, and they didn't used Nen to know since they gave the scars to all of the children after they were born. Even to Morena, who claims not to have royal blood.

it's year 2030

Togashi returns with the new volume

The entire thing now dedicated to dividing specialists into two categories.

Readers confused but continue to argue what the difference between specialist A and specialist B is.

According to you specialism itself didn’t affect anything at all, he still just a conjueror

No. My original argument was that when he is a specialist, he becomes 100% efficient in all nen categories, but retains the same limitations as a conjurer regarding ability levels, and that he simply calls this emperor time. Some anons then started telling me he can actually learn abilities at all levels(100% mastery), which still doesn't make sense to me because the page i posted shows the level of abilities he is able to acquire in different nen categories is contingent on his level as a conjurer, even when he is a specialist. I concede on emperor time being a specialist ability, and not simply Kurapika's specialist mode.

rape theory

Chrollo and Kurapika reunion.

The rape theory doesn't really make sense considering Kakin belief in bloodline purity and imperial worship.They didn't know which child is royalty, and they didn't used Nen to know since they gave the scars to all of the children after they were born. Even to Morena, who claims not to have royal blood.

Have you read chapter 408? lol

Even now I still wonder who hired Silva to kill that #8 member of the troupe and why only that specific member?

Bill will improve Kurapika's chains with Erigeron.

It's a really underappreciated horror of the chimera ants to realize just how much of a threat they could've been given different circumstances. Like how, had the Queen given birth naturally, she might have survived to give birth to more kings.

Damn if Camilla dies
all the have not will commit mass suicide huh

if anything its the opposite
they got extremely lucky by appearing in a country of very limited technology and then moving to a backwards isolationist state, they got the best spawning point they could ask for
had it been somewhere else, the response would have been much quicker and the queen wouldn't have been able to birth powerful ants

To be fair the Ants had terrible abilities all throughout the series,

The only terrible abilities belonged to Cheetu and those fish siblings. I'd take Leol's power any day of the week.

It's very plausible that they got her womb removed but that's only so they can rape without worrying about bastard children.

2024

People don't realize the entire thing was a conspiracy by Pariston and Beyond to get Netero killed.

ngmi.

He would fucking lose so hard though.
Part of why he succeeded against G.I. players was because they were all mercenaries, concerned primarily with themselves, without heroics.
The boat is filled with extremely loyal people who care nothing about their own lives as long as they fulfill their duty.

I wonder what the dead princes' cursebearers are up to now they've lucked out of having to sudoku.

I already knew that

If specialists can master every category, but are still limited efficiency wise, and scarlet eyes don't shorten life span by default, isn't Kurapika's hatsu kinda retarded? Wouldn't it be better to combine a bunch of high level abilities at low power than low level abilites at high power at the price of your life?

Saying enhancing your brain won't make you smarter is like saying enhancing your muscles won't make you stronger.

Yes lol. But after so much of the schizo theories being confirmed, I feel confident. Not like the Kakin rape factor was a realistic theory before this chapter. Also, I don't think Togashi wouldn't tell us directly if she was raped just like with Mukuro. Morena is not really telling us what a 'meat' is.

kurapika was in a hurry.
If he had more time, pretty sure he would make something more busted then some boring chains

One thing I've always wondered is if you learn nen and you create an ability that's just complete shit, what's the penalty if you decide to just toss that ability out and invent something else?

Kakin belief in bloodline purity

Where are you getting this from?

Chrollo will be Heie to Morena's Mukuro. Sorry, no Bork x Morena yuri for you.

He's got the equivalent of Chrollo's ability in a single finger and he can give it to another person. His Nen powers during Emperor Time are broken, and I doubt we've seen all of them.

See what happened to Kastro.

He can steal high level abilities now. And besides, training to high levels outside of conjuration would require him to have his scarlet eyes active while training.

you chrollo self-inserters are no better than hisomachi fags

Wouldn't it be better to combine a bunch of high level abilities at low power than low level abilites at high power at the price of your life?

You mean high level abilities at high power

If you realize the ability you made is bad though and decide you'll never use it again, is it like a video game and you just have some portion of your nen points budget wasted on a worthless ability forever? It's clearly possible to modify abilities with new conditions and whatnot but can you just unlearn a crappy ability and respec into something useful?

Are we actually back?
I don't want to pick the WORDSWORDSWORDS boat arc up again from the start (because I barely remember anything) to then have it be gone again for another 2-4 years and forget it all.

He's right though. Enhancing the brain gives you more raw compute, but intelligence is more a matter of wisdom and knowledge. But then, Togashi is very meta with his power system. Everything is semantic and word play to him, like how Dogman can sniff out Nen potential, for example. So I guess it's possible to enhance anything, as long as you can think it up.

Yeah, you're right

Superiority.

kek this nigga is close to death everytime he use emperor time

Gido from Heavens Arena (top guy) could unironically beat Tsednerich. He fully counters him

I think there might be Nen users who can erase wasted Nen abilities from your memory. But no, just like in real life, if you've learned something, you cannot unlearn it; though you can keep pursuing another talent until your brain rewires itself.

It probably isn't easy to simply forget an ability, but I doubt it is impossible. I think it'd be easier to adjust what you learned from the ability and apply it to create something new. Though it's also possible that the issue is that you can't maintain an ability while trying to get more than your limit, and will naturally start overwriting the old one. In the fight with Kastro it was only really relevant that Kastro couldn't have more than he had at the time, not that he had no future options to change.

Are we actually back?

Not yet, it's starting to get into the chaos.
Martial law was declared.
So you can expect a lot more fights going forward into this arc.

Kurapika's stealing ability is so much worse than Chrollo it's not even funny.

hisoka is bonolenov
kurapika and chrollo will team up
the kurta clan did attack meteor city first
sheila is pariston
fuck you

What do you guys think the Sonata of Darkness sounds like?

My guess:
youtube.com/watch?v=qUDNe2KnsFI

Specialists are (probably) 1 in 3000

Does this fall in line with what we thought? I actually thought they were rarer

1/4

I think there might be Nen users who can erase wasted Nen abilities from your memory.

That's basically what Pouf did to Cheetu.

Stop treating enhancer like a jobber

I notice there are some Kurapika wankers invading these threads out of no where after the last chapter, or maybe it's all just one guy. It's quite obvious they are 2011trannies who got their information from wiki.

Looks like 2/5 to me

He'd have to learn a high level abilities first, and he wouldn't be able to if he's not a specialist, which drains him considerably. Although, judging by how quickly he shits out hatsus, maybe he can. I'm not sure what even constitutes a high level ability precisely.

Having just read the Viz release, specialists are simply outside of the chart. They completely avoid the efficiency drop-off that the other types have.

If they removed all of the internal vagina than she wouldn't be able to have sex. Also unless it was removed as a child, they would want to keep it 'fresh' for the royalty so she most likely wouldn't be raped.

They completely avoid the efficiency drop-off that the other types have.

They still have efficiency problem. They just don't have mastery limit.

Feitan is HxH's Hiei though

That doesn't explain Kurapika

He'd have to learn a high level abilities first, and he wouldn't be able to if he's not a specialist, which drains him considerably.

While true, he doesn't need Emperor time for it, so it doesn't drain his life. It is also true that Kurapika is a bigger genius than Gon and Killua having started learning nen after them and coming up with several abilities before they had one

An enhancer fighting kurapika would simply smash him

If he activates red eyes, you should hang back and stall. You have all the time in the world.

A slow and steady enhancer would body kurapika

the lese majeste law and the bans on genetic testing

Kastro did nothing wrong. He was extremely strong.

The only way he was wrong is that he wasn't doing enhancement "slow and steady" but he received tremendous burst potential and surprise factor for the trade off of being worse in drawn out conflicts and when under duress.

I'm not sure he can use specialization without activating emperor time

They don't. Morena says they have no negatives at all, if you know you are one. The mastery limit is simply a single example she uses. She never mentions an efficiency problem existing at all.

Unless Morena explicitly says efficiency that guy is baiting
Two other translations explicitly say mastery.

Morena's story has multiple holes in it.
She's by definition a dishonest manipulator. She's also not well in the head, having been "raped" all her formative years, if that can be believed

Kurapika & Chrollo teamup is looking very likely.
It's so likely that I feel Togashi might try to subvert the expectation just to disappoint people.

stfu tranni

She never mentions an efficiency problem existing at all.

She never mentioned Specialist can overcome efficiency problem. All she said is Specialist can 'learn' other nen categories without any problem.

No, he took a water divination test and came off as a specialist before he developed emperor time.

She says they have no issues learning high level abilities, which has nothing to do with efficiency.

The mastery limit is simply a single example she uses

Cope.

There's plenty of negatives.
You can't do everything at once.
You can either choose to be master at multiple categories or make a truly unique ability, but there's always tradeoffs.

Pedestrian abilities for Pitou, super specialized ability for neon. That's how it works.

She mentions "learning" abilities as a thing they don't have to deal with. She never says anything about efficiency and says they have no negatives outside of figuring out you are one. Bad efficiency would be a negative. She's clearly saying they don't have to worry about efficiency like the other categories.

I feel Specialists are more likely to have their nen awaken even if they don't know nen, see Neon.

Post it

She mentions "learning" abilities as a thing they don't have to deal with.

And that's the only advantage she said.

Bad efficiency would be a negative.

Because efficiency isn't just Specialist's negative. It's a shared trait of all nen categories.

"If there were any negatives at all, it's that they might not realize they're specialists."
She's clearly saying specialists don't have trouble with the other categories at all. She just uses learning another ability as an example. There is no mention of an efficiency problem.

She mentions "learning" abilities as a thing they don't have to deal with

Learning abilities is exactly what is categorized in HxH as mastery. They still of course need to learn abilities, including of their own affinity, so what you're saying doesn't make sense.
But Efficiency never had anything to do with learning abilities. She says they have no limits when it comes to learning abilities. That's all that she says.

There is no mention of an efficiency problem.

Efficiency isn't "Specialist's problem" because all nen categories have same trait.
She didn't say Specialist has limited aura but that doesn't mean Specialist has unlimited aura.

No she explicitly says specialists have no downsides. To illustrate her point she gives an example of one of the downsides another category has. She never says that's the ONLY downside specialists avoid.

I'm suggesting he might've set up emperor time such that it's activated whenever his eyes go red, as another restriction.

There's practically no way to save Woble unless Kurapika can deal with curses.

Why wouldn't she mention that they're bad at enhancement and other far away categories when making hybrid abilities?

It's not a bad side. It is a natural state. Nobody says "transmutation's bad side is that they have weak manipulation".

No she explicitly says specialists have no downsides

No, she explicitly says specialists don't have downsides when it comes to learning abilities

Transmutation is definitely "bad" at manipulation. No one would argue it's not one of its weaknesses.

I'd say it depends on the situation. Chrollo has a more difficult time stealing abilities with his conditions, but he's able to save them for later usage. Pika cannot due practical limitations. Pika though, puts the victim into a state similar to Zetsu while draining their ability, and Stealth Dolphin has 2 syringes, meaning he can load/unload 2 abilities at once. Chrollo's ability is more suited for combat, but Pika's is way superior in tactical situations. He can even awaken Nen in a non-user and give them an ability and tether his thought to their ears.

She uses the learning abilities as an example of something they are not bad at. She never says that's the only advantage over the other categories.
She explicitly says the ONLY negative is that they might not know they are a specialist.

Killua will impregnate Machi

I'm still waiting on Ging vs Pariston mind game. Who do you think will win?

what's a POT?

I feel like it's supposed to be implied like, "if there were any negatives (to this) at all"
There might be an issue here in the translation

I realize both of these but still, doesn't change the fact that the Ants COULD have been more powerful.

She never says that's the only advantage over the other categories.

It is the only trait she is talking about.

Other nen categories have a hard time learning other abilities, but specialist doesn't have such problem

Is this so hard to understand? She's just talking about learning ability.

She uses the learning abilities as an example of something they are not bad at

First it was mastery is just an example
Then it was level is just an example
Now it's learning abilities just just an example

Weird how all of these example only ever talk about learning abilities

She explicitly says the ONLY negative is that they might not know they are a specialist.

When it comes to learning abilities you fucking retard, she explicitly says learning abilities.

More ZolDICKS in Spiders.

All part of Quwrof's plan.

Kastro did nothing wrong developing his abilities the way he did.

Here, this is the thing Morena is talking about. It is not so fucking difficult to understand now is it?

Has Togashi ever adressed why he put a random ass Indian going "heya hoya" in two panels during Heavens Arena???? lmfao

The way his only watchers would be his butlers doing it just so he wont feel saf lmao

She could've said "Transmuters, for example, have a hard time efficiently using manipulation." and you would argue the exact opposite of what you are right now. It's just one example of an advantage specialists have. She could've picked either one if she wanted.

asians are ashamed of their features

Intelligence is the ability to acquire knowledge.

Chrollo's ability is better for strategy though, the abilities are saved in his book which means he can efficiently plan them ahead. He can also spam abilities without worrying about draining his life away. Genuinely Kurapika has the worst stealing ability in the series because he's always on the clock while using it

Gyro is Kaiser

Sees the future

I'm gonna get hit by a spinning top! I better do--

Wait, if I dodge... I'll also get hit by a spinning top...

FUCK

This is the end of Tse...

Gyro is Yokotani

Conjurers counter enhancers.

It's just one example of an advantage specialists have

She only said LEARNING problem of other abilities, and said specialists don't have SUCH problem. So learning is the only advantage she speaks about, and she didn't even imply there is other advantage.

Chrollo's ability is better for strategy though, the abilities are saved in his book which means he can efficiently plan them ahead.

When Chrollo mentioned having to create new conditions for his bookmark hatsu one idea I had was that he had to prep his abilities each day like a D&D wizard.

It blows my mind you retards can't read a simple explanation.
She says they have no downsides. End of argument. Any headcanon about them still having downsides like the other categories is refuted by the text.

and you would argue the exact opposite of what you are right now.

Oh wow so if she said something different then it would mean something different?
Shocker.

If she did say that btw, that would be a plot hole in the series, as we know for a fact that what lifts the efficiency limitation is Emperor Time and is something completely exclusive to Kurapika.

She says they have no downsides

She didn't. She said Specialists don't have other categories' learning problem.

Learn to read.

Wrong. They can only get around the efficiency problem with very costly hatsu, like what Kurapika has.

She says they have no downsides. End of argument.

You must be an enhancer, retard.

Simply reply with the text where Morena mentions that Specialists have a efficiency problem with any of the other categories and I will happily concede.

Simply reply with the text where Morena mentions that Specialists don't have a efficiency problem with any of the other categories and I will happily concede

b-but she said no problem

IN LEARNING. That's what she keeps saying.

so we are going to have negotiations until the hiatus?

The burden of evidence is on you. She doesn't talk about efficiency at all, provide text that is saying that they no limitations when it comes to efficiency and i will concede. Because what you're asserting goes against previously established fact in the manga.

Simply reply with the text where Morena mentions that Specialists don't have a efficiency problem with any of the other categories and I will happily concede

Sure.

Because what you're asserting goes against previously established fact in the manga.

Specialists are never mentioned to have efficiencies with the other categories. Them have 40% enhancement is headcanon.

Finally some not taking it at face value.

if that can be believed

idk but something is not fitting in her explanation

That text is mentioning efficiency or is saying that specialists might not realize that they are specialists because they can learn abilities of other categories just like their own?
Which one of these two things is it saying?

His hatsu?
Time travel, psychic manipulation, physical manipulation. Specialist.
Mastery level?
Time travel - that's super advanced.

Efficiency?

100% baby

Downsides?

None.Typical specialist stuff. Although, he HAS agreed to abide by certain restrictions.

Specialists are never mentioned to have efficiencies with the other categories

Of course they are. Or else Kurapika's Emperor time does nothing. Emperor time only ever exists to lift limitations on efficiency.

It's mentioning that the ONLY downside that specialists have is not knowing they are specialists sometimes and outside of that they have NO negatives AT ALL. Just like I described.

She is talking about the minus for having mastery of all nen categories. That they cannot learn they are practicing wrong categories. The topic never changed from learning abilities. Did you erase the sentence before that intentionally?

I Transmute my aura into void, like, physical void (emotional void can do too as recent updates have proven abstract things and emotions can be applied, but for now it won't do).

Of course it's hard and my first attempts probably chuck off a fucking finger or more, but were I to survive I'd move the void-blackholes outside of me or around my palm at ultra-nanoscopic, magnitudes of smaller proportions to the real deals, thus generating vortexes to absorb and deflect matter and such.

And no, no Gojo instant bullshit, I need to still maneuver my little void sphere around to do things. Also conditions like time limits, area limits, being in the presence of an objectively superior enemy or situation, something else, a covenant or so would be good.

No, the text is saying specialists have no limitations when it comes to learning abilities, none at all. And that's why they might often not realize they are specialists.
Or is this not what the text is saying?

Pitou's powers were pretty unique - her aura could affect life, which is why corpses she manipulated did not decay, and why Dr Blythe could create biological tissue out of nothing. She wasn't just a de-facto manipulator with a conjuration power.

I highlighted the sentence where she explicitly states they don't have weaknesses for your convenience.

Or is this not what the text is saying?

No. I just described exactly what she just said.

And what even is more telling is that she explicitly says Level. Making everything absolutely clear.
Level, as we all know - has absolutely nothing to do with efficiency.

REMINDER.

Kurapika could've just developed abilities outside of the other categories. 100% mastery, 100% effectiveness, no life drainage.

Well, depends on luck and time span for Chrollo, because his stolen powers are his only means of fighting. Being able to directly put your opponent in a state of Zetsu and equip their powers to a teammate has very high ceiling in immediate or cooperative scenarios.

But yeah, Kurapika seems unable to keep the ability active for long, and if he gasses out, he loses a few years of his life. Which may never come into play, but it does sound terrible.

She was talking about the drawback of having mastery of all nen categories.
Will you say Specialist has unlimited aura because Morena didn't say Specialist has problem with having limited aura?

All specialists have free Emperor Time because I said so!

Fuck off retard.

Hinrigh is Camilla in disguise?!

No. I just described exactly what she just said.

I'm pretty sure the text is "There Are Some Practical Limitations For The Other Types. Transmuters, For Example, Have A Hard Time Learning Manipulative Abilities, But Specialists Have None Of That. If There Were Any Negatives At All, It's That They Might Not Realize They're Specialists, Focus On Another Type. And Regret It Later. This Can And Does Happen."

Here's Kurapika literally describing that specialists don't care about efficiency 300 chapters ago. See how he isn't talking about learning abilities he's talking about using ones he already learned.

Here's Kurapika literally describing that specialists don't care about efficiency 300 chapters ago

Are you a fucking retard? Yes Kurapika has no efficiency problem, because he has fucking Emperor Time.
Which he himself explains after that page.

Yes and I broke down what that text for you in my own words to illustrate my point.

Specialist abilities aren't a substitute for the fundamentals.

No, what you did was to crop out the part that is saying "learning abilities" because you're trying to argue that Togashi introduced a plot hole in the series

When my eyes turn scarlet I BECOME A SPECIALIST and can use whatever abilities I've learned to FULL EFFECT.

He never mentions that emperor time is the cause. He says that being a specialist is the reason. It says it on the page right there. I fucking circled it in red for you. How do you miss something so obvious?

Fuck off retard.

I never said it was a plot hole.
I cropped out an example of ONE of the downsides specialists avoid because it is completely irrelevant to what I am talking about.

no argument

And that's that done. Read slower next time.

Nah, he can steal as many abilities as he wants from whoever he wants.

You assumed cause and effect. Two items are simply spoken in conjunction here.

Oh god you're fucking dumb. Okay bro, let me ask you one simple question:
What does Emperor Time do?

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He says it on the page. He specifically says his eyes turning red lets him become a specialist that can then use all the categories to full effect. He never mentions emperor time at all.

He never mentions emperor time at all.

I cropped out an example of ONE of the downsides specialists avoid because it is completely irrelevant to what I am talking about.

It is in fact irrelevant to what you're saying. Thank you for admitting that what Morena is saying doesn't have anything to do to what you're saying.

it's to stop spreading Kung Flu

Tserretardnich

Emperor Time changes him into a specialist and boosts his aura, that's all it does.

I never said it was a plot hole.

Emperor Time is a Hatsu, Hatsu is an ability. It is not inherent to Specialism. And it is what allows him to utilize all the abilities he learned to 100%. That is what effectiveness is.
You're arguing that all the specialists have Emperor Time.

Correct and the fact that people think its fully Emperor Time is retarded

Emperor Time changes him into a specialist and boosts his aura,

Holy mother fucking retard. Emperor Time is an ability he HAS. He took the divination test and came out as a Specialist BEFORE he developed Emperor Time.

Emperor Time is a specialist ability not a conjuror ability...

changes him into a specialist

....

So he's using a specialist ability TO switch to Specialist category?

Emperor time is a fancy name for a simple condition of depleting lifespan to increase aura. That's all it does.

Imagine actively trying this hard to stay mad at a children's cartoon

Emperor time is a fancy name for a simple condition of depleting lifespan to increase aura. That's all it does.

No. It is a specialist ability, a specialist hatsu

Feitan is cute

Here's the manga specifically saying that using all the categories like that isn't a hatsu.

No, that's what the scarlet eyes do. Emperor time is a specialist ability he has always on while he is a specialist that raises his efficiency in all categories to 100%

No. Manga prior already established that as an ability. Kurapika is saying that while he's a specialist he can use all abilities he learned to 100%, which yes he can, thanks to Emperor Time which is his specialist ability.
There is an AND there.

See

They can, but kurapika does not.

Speedreaders lost.
Specialists won.

Dr Blythe can create biological tissue but requires full focus and a total defenseless posture, also sucking away ridiculous amounts of aura.

This in itself is not specialist coded. Same with using manipulation to halt putrefaction.
Her combination of specialties was however, "specialist" in that she could use both long range puppets, self manipulation and support healing at high rates with low restrictions.

So yes everyone who are arguing that Specialists have 100% efficiency, just know that you're are arguing for a literal plot hole and Kurapika being a retard who made an ability that drains his life even though he already had all the qualities of said ability

Nope, you're literally bending over backwards to ignore context to justify you seething.

Projections much?
Kurapika literally called emperor time a specialist ability - you ignore this
Morena literally only mentioned learning abilities and levels - you ignore this

In your opinion Kurapika is giving years off his life for an meager aura and power boost, which he was getting even as a child in scarlet eyes mode.

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