Why are tsunderes still the undisputed best character archetype in isekai?

why are tsunderes still the undisputed best character archetype in isekai?

Any isekai where MC builds himself a criminal empire starting small before eventually creating his own bandit group and everything? Bonus point if it has some edge involving get betrayed by CF or former friends who are now on the side of the law.

Tsunderes are pretty rare in isekai especially compared to classic and battle harems. They have a lot more novelty now.

because smug ojous make the best tsunderes and thus the best characters

Because of Eris.

MC plans to marry his CF in isekai

before that have to complete one last dungeon run with rest of hero party in isekai

strange mishaps occur and she gets bodyjacked by her daughter from the future

it’s the daughter of CF and the hero

they were supposed to betray MC and kill him off in the dungeon

but their daughter thinks MC is cute and doesn’t want to go back to her time

is the reason Lyle stopped sucking when dealing with women

Yomu never writes this kind of character again

He really abandoned a lot of good ideas.

Bestgirlposting until her arc is adapted!

What about fake tsundere?

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The better Eris isn't.

If you summon a maid, what class should she be? Assassin? Homemaker? Ninja? Knight?

GB'd wife

spec ops

A maid.

Evil hag seggs

Golem.

General threads don't belong on Anon Babble. Mods need to nuke this garbage.

I hate that this thread has become the anti-CF thread and not isekai. The rest of Anon Babble loves CFs.

Space k0t

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Horrible doodle art

The mods have the sense to not want a thread for every isekai series that people are reading.
You know, since that would be the whole catalog.

I always found single-class system to be kind of lame. Especially if you choose a class when young and cannot change it later.

Better option is to have multi-class system.
And even better is classless system with flexible skill system.

not a general thread so i don't see your point friendo

Maybe would could split things up?

Maybe split up isekai and litrpg? I feel the two are mixed together.

The psyop worked and thats a good thing.

Why is he such a faggot?

He should enjoy time with her. She doesn't have the level of worship some of the others do.

I hate how common these threads are against like Manga Threads or OPT threads since I can't find that many good indirect, take it easy janny recommendations through them.

okay i'm 3 chapters in to maso-heroine story and i have to admit it's compelling. The GB angle doesn't really seem to add anything to it, though. at least not so far. i will read more.

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most GB doesn't actually have a purpose related to the plot and is just there to appeal to those of us who enjoy it lol
i'm glad you're liking it so far, though!

Villainesses are cute

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Yes.

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cute

Even they lock up mc to have him for themselves?

I also hate how there isn't a clear distinction between novels and manga in these threads.

novels >>> manga
i will die on this hill
manga are really good for reaction images, though

Villainess impressed by the abilities of the commoner boy from her class, attempts to make him her servant

Gets progressively obsessed with the commoner boy to the point she's secretly ostracizing him so he has no other choice but to go to the villainess

what class

Protagonist's Onahole.

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I don't like the prose to begin with and it becomes double fucked due to the translation.
Plus I like to reserve what little actual reading I do for other types of books.

sauce? Lens does not work

dwarf lube is of the highest craftsmanship

Summoning some girl expecting to fight or be used for something class related, only to find out her job description isn't what she expected.

it's my favorite thing to read. the only thing that comes close is sci-fi, but usually not many of those appeal to me
say please :^)

Yeah, it's mostly propaganda. Most CFs are lovely and are a grounding presence.

spends more and more time on commoner boy and neglected the original story

bullying the heroine events dont happen and she never gets fame or sympathy

prince fiance starts ignoring heroine cause he's trying to find out why his fiance is chasing after a commoner(ironically like him)

commoner just wants to have a normal academy romance, not being hounded by the upper nobility

Should have been a cute girl with big tits, faggot.

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Renner and Climb?

His second girl is good too.

wow cute art

this girl loses

never mind

loses

she's part of the harem, unless you count her not getting sex from mc as losing

protag in this story , is such a hottie

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pugilist

it's a loss if the two other girls get to have sex but she doesn't

that makes sense
jew wife won

She is a child, you sick fuck!

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she's not even at the kissing stage yet , u really expect this child to get it? you are horrible

No Way Fags her

MC a shit

summon protagonists onahole

force her to become a warrior to satisfy my muscle girl fetish

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everytime he gets battered up.

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The manga doesn't show as much of what he's thinking, but her age is a problem for him while she's even younger than the first girl. He has some interest in her.

i'm glad you're liking it so far, though!

made it through chapter 11 and it's still interesting, but i'm going to sleep for the night. I was going to end at 10, but the way it ended i had to find out what was going to happen next. i wonder if i'd go that far if i had super regeneration powers...

No Way Fags her

I guess I know what I'm not reading.

Are there any iconic no way fag moments in isekai? I know yuusha ga shinda has one but it isn't an isekai.

Why even have a class system at that point? It makes sense in a game because you need some way of putting the skills and the learning process into mathematical equations, but if you bring that into a story that's not actually a videogame, isn't that just real life with superpowers and a stat screen?

An in-story class system absolutely should be limited. It's not the end of the world if you come up with some explanation as to how the alchemist become a sword master because the sword was created by his super broken alchemy specifically for him or whatever, but you should put in that little bit of effort just to keep the class system flavor.

Liciafag the biggest CF shill betrayed and abandoned

It became one before the author got sick and then the anime bombed.

The Yuusha ga Shinda anime would have been a hit if Yuna wasn't a bitch. Guaranteed. There was definitely interest. I don't miss that particular type of tsundere.

He should fuck all the goddesses

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An in-story class system absolutely should be limited.

I guess it makes sense if the limited class system is part of the story. I'm reading Dungeon of Knowledge right now, and I like how it handles it. Having a powerful Class Shrine that can give people better classes is huge boon for the city and big political tool. And without good Class shrine, things get really sucky for people.

People always post the pages where the childhood friend betrays and make a big deal out of it but nobody ever posts the pages where the childhood friend shows her love and affection

But we did
except both of them are monofags

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Gentlemen...

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Korean slop good.

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ISEKAI
GOOD

Pic unrelated unless its talking about extraverse

not an anti-japan psyop btw

This unironically

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proto-marie

Ceres would break Olivia’s arm before she could slap her
Marie is a fraud

Alternative/Betaverse s00mika betrayed by summoning extraverse takeru and also giving takeru an in-depth detailed explanation of how she got twizzlered
Alternative/Betaverse s00mika is also technically not extraverse takeru's CF

Tsunderes belong in the trash.

K*reanslop..

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..good!

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She both lost to dick and won to dick

Especially Nyarlathotep, yes.

The average syosetu isekai writers are zoomers otaku who play jrpgs and use it as base of their series

an average jrpg has moralfaggot mc

about that....

Anyone up for more korean regret kino?

tfw no mesugaki oppai loli isekai

Tsunderes belong in MC's heart!

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Melodrama

Always am.

Isekai with tomboy love interest?

tsunshit

best

lmao

Only after they've learned to communicate their feelings like a normal person and apologized for their past actions.

WAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

not japanese

*vomits*

tsundere this, yandre that, is there a name for a nice girl that just loves the mc without any bullshit?

MC is reincarnated as the himbo prince in a magical academy otomege, mid scenario

Villainess is already seething and is likely to not even see reason at this point

heroine has 4 of the MC's best mates around her finger, seems to think the same of MC

the big denouncement ball is in 3 days

How do you turns this around?

Yes, it is called a childhood friend

summon Protagonist's Onahole

anon forgots he's a side character mob and his summon is now beelining to the protag's cock

mesugaki oppai loli

I'd rather lolibaba no oppai thanks

childhood fiend

loves the mc without any bs

lmao

Deredere.

You mean like Shirley from Code Geass?

Yes. Only in dedicated rage stories are they ever bad. Most of the time they are domestic, not seething jelly banshees, playful, cute, loyal, supportive etc

a nice girl that just loves the mc without any bullshit

kek
in isekai, only slave will be doing that.

Act like absolutely nothing was wrong just to fuck with all of them. There's a good chance the villainess may calm down because you didn't pursue the matter. If the heroine ends up angry you can just use the fact that she's been fraternizing with four other men to keep her all the way off your back.
Then you relinquish your throne to your younger brother and fuck off to the north.

I think that's called normal

Most of the time they are domestic, not seething jelly banshees, playful, cute, loyal, supportive etc

Name 5

watch more anime fag

Concession accepted

Rape him

Act like she is the victim

Guilt trip him

Victim blaming is fine if the victim is a man

That's just a regular woman moment, but MC falling for it like a pathetic simp is inexcusable.

does non-isekai count?

even for kingdom building isekai or if mc is tensei'd in a village there's always about 9 in 10 chance there will be at least one designated loyal female
traitorous CFs posting is mostly shitposting that rarely happens outside of regret/revenge slop

Gag, kidnap, and hogtie villainess

Gag, kidnap, and hogtie heroine (possibly unnecessary, but I feel like her being able to talk or act for the later steps could lead to stupid bullshit or somebody leaving the scene before I've said my peace, plus it makes it more clear I'm acting as a neutral party)

Stuff them both in an isolated room together

Explain I have unknowable knowledge from a world where our lives are portrayed as a fictional story to be consumed, or I'm crazy, but I'll let the accuracy of said knowledge speak for itself

Explain I would like to avoid the needless drama of said story, that all our paths are our own to make now that I have knowledge that can be acted on

Openly describe both of their current mental states, motives, and plans to them as well as where those plans will end them up in the best and worst case scenarios

Release them both from their bindings, accept the inevitable physical retaliation

Force us to talk shit out and demand a verbal commitment that there won't be later drama before anyone is allowed to leave, I don't care if we have to piss in the corner

Inevitably get an insincere commitment from the villainess and abuse said commitment to demand a regular audience with her to both keep tabs and ply/humor her to try and get her to chill

Abuse prince status to avoid consequences if she tries to retaliate against me

Simple as

That's assuming my reincarnation inherits my no harm no foul attitude and strong desire to avoid bullshit. Else I might just have the villainess executed or something.

Also depending on what routes or bad ends were in the game, hopefully abuse that knowledge to maximize everyone's happiness in the end.

not seething jelly banshees

CFs only win when there is a harem end and they only take it because it's the only win they're getting. In a harem story it's the CF who always opposes it at first.

both of them are monofags

Who?

mostly liciafag

How about otome isekai but mc is reincarnated as the heroine? I only know the one where she's pursuing the shopkeeper npc route.

She's not a real childhood friend unless she's also the reincarnation of your previous childhood friend

It's pretty rare but we have one and she turned into no pan assassin

double the betray

Hate to break it to you but if she's like that she's likely to be betrayed

Anti-CF

Post kot aunt.

that one was not isekaid

pro-cf

posts romcom sloppa

How about otome isekai but the MC is a native who gets forcibly married to the isekaijin villainess after the condemnation event?

Which hags /isekai/?

isekaijin villainess after the condemnation event?

That implies that the villainess is hopelessly incompetent if she couldn't avoid not getting banished. Sounds like a fun mono romcom.

Anti-CF

So and adulthood enemy?

It's slow life sloppa.

Maybe post a CF that actually wins

Is there such a thing as a CF villainess?

Be a prince

be betrothed to the future villainess, who is your childhood friend

your retarded(bad) childhood friend hits her head

now she's retarded(good)

yeah, the very popular blue-and-yellow dumb bitch is supposed to be a reincarnated CF villainess.
the otome game death flag or something

Not really

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otome game death flag

Ah yes, that's the one where the main character has a harem of men and women. Been a few since I've thought about it.

I've never played an otome in my life. Do they really have villainess like they do in the novels?

yeah, it's a trope for a reason

No, its a complete hallucination made by narou writers

Most of my otome knowledge comes from shit like Amnesia

maybe, the archetype seems to have some authenticity but the works appear to be derivative

Comedic shoujo

Claune
Maika and her Aunt
Novem
Ryuuka
The one from nut master
Both Licias if they count

Oooh, that sounds really good, thanks!
I'd like to shill my find, very similar.

villainess transmigrated, discovers villain also transmigrated

they transmigrated into a transmigration story so the heroine is also a modern-day person

cue transmigrator scheming fight in the imperial harem

yeah it's pretty good
my only gripe is the annoying music they play when they "will they won't they" every episode