I have never seen a anime of a popular manga be this mismanaged in my life how did csm get such a raw deal?

I have never seen a anime of a popular manga be this mismanaged in my life how did csm get such a raw deal?

It wasn't really that bad if we're being honest, just poorly directed fights, the animation was really good most of the time. Demon Slayer has more QUALITY moments but people always rush to defend shitty cgi in Demon Slayer for some reason

Why do people complain so much about csm animation, i honestly don't see the problem.

Remember everyone Berserk (2016) never happened.

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The best thing about the anime were the EDs

Issue is the less the animation(the cgi was still bad) but where it ended. If it concluded with the Reze arc, there’d be more hype.

Toriko and tokyo ghoul are up there for bad adaptations. CSM's adaptation is bad, but it's real problem is that it's illfitting.

Not a single modern anime has ANY vibes I swear. At best it's just disorganized nonstop forced sovl like Dandadan and Sonny Boy. Nothing has simple, natural vibes like Casshern Sins or Hellsing Ultimate or Death Note or Soul Eater or D. Grey Man or any number of pre 2010 anime. Even Tokyo Ghoul S1 had some real vibes going on. Everything is the same sterile generic vibe nowadays like HxH 2011

I have never seen a anime of a popular manga be this mismanaged in my life

You haven't watch enough anime then.

how did csm get such a raw deal?

That's what happens when you give big projects to shit tier directors.

It's a good anime but it completely misses the point and vibe of the manga and it makes it kinda boring

It's a high budget oscar bait when the manga is supposed to be a chaotic trashy b-movie

Ryu Nakayama

...is a cinematic genius

Somehow that bastard also sucked all the life out of Kensuke Ushio's OST.

The first season of MHA did worse. The manga was a hit since day 1. What did they do: a 13-episode adaptation, based on only 2 volumes and aired in a doomed TV block.

Have you seen Fujimoto's paneling? Have you seen Goodbye Eri? Have you seen Look Back? He's pretentious af. The direction fits perfectly.

He's gonna get exposed so hard when the Reze movie has better suited direction.

It fit on everything that wasn't a comedic or action scene.
How the fuck do you make a chainsaw man mowing down zombies so boring?

It was better than the manga. Fujimoto can't draw without assistants.

Nigger Naruto had panels like that didn't make it pretentious though

To be fair the manga is absolutely hideous and that has prevented me from reading it

Eh. I still don't trust mappa themselves. Fagayama to me was only half the reason I didn't like it. I really hope Ushio comes back and if so he brings that energy he had with Devil man crybaby and Dandadan with him
Make zombie a gray blob, make the zombies themselves blend with the blue toned background, and something something cgi Denji.

forced sovl

You are retarded

Shut up moeshitter

I liked both hellsing ultimate and ddd
That's more on mappa having chainsaw man share a production line with JJK or some shit. Then again I got speared that faggot director giving reze blue hair.

You guys can't even articulate what the problem with the anime is. All you can say is that it looks different from the manga.

I read the part of the manga that the show covered and I don't really get the hype in the first place. It didn't seem very special or unique, it felt amateur in a lot of ways. Why it became some insanely hyped anime in the first place I'll never understand.

Cgi in demon slayer is the fucking backgrounds and attacks, not the main fucking characters and enemies. Kill yourself.

International assassins arc

everything's washed out and melancholy, the show takes the proper feeling for some of the more thoughtful scenes and applies it to the entire story
the reason the manga works is because most of the time, especially early on, it's crazy and gory and wacky, and you're meant to be distracted from the depressing stuff until the tone shift later in the story when things get serious. The anime plays it as serious from the beginning.

"Pretentious paneling" has the same energy as that guy who called rain reddit weather.

They wanted to experiment and they failed.

Okay, OP's picture is a good example of a scene that lost all its energy by questionable voice direction. Marina Inoue as child Denji is fine, and he says the same lines, word for word, from the manga. I compared the Japanese dialogue with the actual Japanese manga which I own and can read. While it's the same dialogue, Denji in the manga is saying his lines with intensity. He's desperate, serious, making a deal with a Devil in a last bid to save his own life. He's not shouting, but he's raising his voice. In the anime, Inoue plays him as sullen and wavering, quiet as he makes the contract.

The Zombie Devil in Japanese speaks like a whining, petulant child. He shouts, is rude, short-spoken, etc. In the anime, he sounds like a tired old man, matter-of-fact, almost out of breath. Same lines, still using boku, just no energy.

At the start of the Endless Eighth Floor arc, Denji and Power allude to Aki still being mad about a "prank", to which he immediately loses his composure and yells "THAT! Was NOT a prank! I'll kill you!" while clearly looking enraged. In the anime, he says it plainly and quickly with no emotion, he's serious.

This is a common issue throughout a lot of the episodes, because that's the direction they wanted. They think that playing everyone as bored, chill, reserved, calm, and serious makes it seem more mature. I'm not even one of the people who think the color palate is bad, I think the washed-out colors match a lot of Fujimoto's color illustrations (no, he did not do the volume covers). But when combined with the washed-out direction, it just saps away all the life. If you direct everything to be boring, people will be BORED. I do think the voice cast is fine, with Ai Farouz in particular being a standout Power. Clearly they allowed her to emote like in the manga. And Denji gets some good line reads when he's being intense, but generally he sounds quiet and low energy as a human.

CSM was the last kino anime.

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Nigger Naruto had panels like that

No it didn't
What?

DDD*

tldr : people hating on csm are schizos who pretend their subjective opinion matters to anyoen else

I dont like the vibe

well I do like the vibe

what? You're wrong

and thats an endlessly repeatable cycle

I disagree with the subjective opinion of this post.

t. fujimoto-dickrider

tldr : people hating on csm are schizos who pretend their subjective opinion matters to anyoen else

The director got replaced btw.

I have been a Fujifag way before you even knew CSM existed and you literally can't refute the anime was badly directed garbage.
Actually it makes me even more angry because they actually had an insanely good budget and a competent director could have easily done a +9/10 anime with it but that retarded faggot Nakayama ruined everything.

Its pretty annoying since theres actual things you could change about the s1 that would make it better
Its too thin on the plot for the runtime. If you removed the repeat (redrawn) scenes it'd be easier to rewatch. If you didnt have to stick to seasonal cour constraints you could make it like 4 x 45 min episodes or something. The EDs didnt have enough plot to back them up so they couldnt be truly unique.
They changed makimas abilities from the manga, she just imagined people to bleed to death for no reason.

The first season of MHA did worse

Not even remotely close. The anime was great from the beginning.

csm anime got a movie sequel btw so its objectively popular in japan

the anime was fine, the real problem is that it had only 12 episodes instead of 24. it's been like 3 years since S1 aired and we're still only about to get to the Reze's arc

I read the part of the manga that the show covered

Continue, it only gets better. The first arc, like many shounens, is the weakest. It's like watching the first 25 ep of one piece or the first 15 ep of bleach and asking why people like those shows.
CSM was way too overhyped when manga readers all new the anime would be a 12 ep show. They were hyping it up, but they knew that the anime was only going to cover weakest part.

What point are you trying to make? The season 1 director was shit and he was swiftly replaced.

>well I do like the vibe

That's not the point. Go read the manga, and tell me whether the anime captured the same vibe or not. You can like what the anime showed you, but it is clearly different from the manga, and that's what people are complaining about.
If you have a group of fans enjoying a story but suddenly you change some aspects of the story, don't be surprised when many stop enjoying it. If it was that same way in the manga from the start, the manga might not have been that successful.

All you can say is that it looks different from the manga.

That's kind of a big problem, though. The manga looks the way it does for a reason. Fujimoto is very good at creating the illusion of time within his manga via paneling, able to make something feel either fast or slow, or either dynamic or subtle, depending on what's needed.
The manga has a very wide range of tones, from silly cartoonish B movie bullshit, to quiet and contemplative, and Fujimoto weaponizes that contrast. The washed out colors, everyone having dead fish faces, and dialogue delivered like normal speech rather than voice acting add to this.
The anime is chronicling the same events as the manga, which means that any changes should be done in service of creating the same feeling in a new medium, which I don't believe it does.
Every scene feels low energy, even when they're meant to be high energy. Even the fights have this awkward "ice skating" vibe, where nothing has any punchiness or inertia.
No anticipation, no ease-in ease-out, no exaggeration. Poor timing. Action is always done straight ahead even when pose-to-pose would've been better. Basic principles of animation are ignored because the director wishes he was working in live action.

The manga feels better "animated" than the anime.

I've been saying since the series ended that the only way it could be reasonably paced is

First season (1 cour)

Movie (Reze arc)

Second season (1 cour)

Which they're doing thankfully. The other option I considered if they didn't go the movie route was 3 cours, which I also would have been okay with because I would enjoy new original material or for some things to get further fleshed out. I also wanted certain scenes to really take their time and build anticipation, like the chapter when Aki's doorbell rings.

I also couldn't figure out how they could adapt chapter 2 faithfully, it's a weird chapter. Turns out they just couldn't, and I was generally okay with that decision.

They were hyping it up, but they knew that the anime was only going to cover weakest part.

The begnning is the best part.
Look Back adaptation has a different vibe too, more melodramatic, but no one complains

i actually really like the anime EXCEPT during any devil fights, which is a shame cuz those were a highlight of the manga, i think in terms of quality any dialogue or character driven scene was done great and the more "toned down" direction actually worked in favor of stuff like the katana man fight which already had a very urban gritty tone to it, it just rly dropped the ball with stuff like the zombie or infinity devils

Good thing 99% anime look like the source material
specially the LN's adaptions!

Man, I really hope one day society starts scanning toddlers for brain defects to euthanize them

I was immediately turned off when the first anime reveals were shown and it was just sequeeky clean film aesthetic. Like fucking hell, the gritty, rough art style is important to the series, stick to it and don't just go for le kino.

backgrounds

The whole scene is usually put together in ufotable-land in a 3d animatic. Some of the 3d ends up being traced over as a reference for the 2d art, the rest of the scene goes through iterative modeling/rendering until it's finished.
The reason for things like the "modern anime cameraman" meme being so bad in ufotableshit is because of the animatic. They set up the choreography in cg.

is important to the series,

how so?

mismanaged

They were given shit to work with and made a turd sandwich. Whats the complaint? Maybe if the manga was better the anime would have been too

The beginning is the best part.

I forgot I was talking with contr/a/rians, but if you truly find it that way, then the show just isn't for you.

Look Back adaptation has a different vibe too, more melodramatic, but no one complains

I haven't seen the anime yet, nor have I read the manga, so I can't comment on it. But maybe it just so happened that they improved on it. Like usually if you change something people like, you might make it worse, but you can sometimes make it better. CSM is just shit. They took out what made it fun, by trying to make it more mature. They removed the weird shit and made it more generic. Characters appear bland.

blue lock season 2 is literally airing right now retard, and its both more popular and more mismanaged

Naruto is one of the most cinematic mangas ever, it is definitely the most cinematic shonen around. Kishimoto may be a hack writer now but his paneling and art were god tier in his hayday.

Chainsaw man fanbase are literally low IQ and teens.