Hey, thanks for saving me and falling into a 15-year coma for me. Anyway, here's my baby

so what lol
life doesn't always work that way

You're mentally ill

"Congratulations"

Babies are the most innocent beings in the world and they should be celebrates as such.

Probably something along the lines of

YABBA DABBA DOO

how do you respond without sounding suicidal?

It was sad in a way she moved on, but it's not surprising or bad though.
He was in a coma for over a decade, and it's not like she became some single-mother to some niglet after partying every week, she got married to a good friend of theirs.
And it's all moot anyway, the MC gets a cute young girl to dote on in the end. Win/Win.

fiction where anything can happen

let's cuck the mc

Yeah, those are for people who are already in a relationship.

they weren't dating so he didn't get cucked
i think that's clearly you, dawg

He was in love with her

No.

I should just have spent my time travel session playing dragon quest with yashiro sensei(who waited for me more than you) instead of saving you fags

K, b, c.

He probably cares less about that than his hot mom not being dead

he should have stuck with the original plan of only saving the mother and not the kids

Why the baby is brown?

Babies are naturally brown at birth

some cuck seanig edited it probably

pussy wussy plz mlady I teleported to the past and stopped your death gib cummywummy plz or I will kms please for the sho for the anime just please

why couldn't he just fuck her after it
then she would have two babies and two daddies

The father of the by was also someone he saved, the baby was born of two people who are only alive because he saved them, he didn't lose any time because of the coma because he already lived them in the original timeline. He also has a different girl too.

The whole coma thing thing was retarded in the first place and shouldn't have happened at all.

They should have named the baby after him.

Author made airi so no one would think about the implications of this

Because that's how fiction works. Protagonists rarely interacts with people who have little meaning to them.

yeah this.
It's like

satoru you must quickly forget kayo's betrayal, because look there's another girl that likes you here.

Also you never liked her in the first place >Nevermind that i showed you two romantically many times

cute demon imouto runs in

murders every disloyal whore in her path

looks at you and says this

Your response?

But he's happy?

4chudcels can't imagine doing something good without an ulterior motive

1 drop rule

I expected the author to not introduce a coma to bitch out of the controversial relationship he built up.
She’s not a bad person for not waiting. The author is a bad person for putting the audience in that situation.

This show really outed incels for what they are, bitter "nice guys" thinking they're owed sex for not chimping out (they still do)

When you write a story with two characters with romantic subtext, and take that romance away from them, it’ll be received harshly.
This has nothing to do with incel logic and everything to do with audience expectations.

So happy that it all worked out for you. You getting to live a good life and my mother not being killed, my sacrifices truly weren't in vain.

The killer is probably laughing his ass off in prison over satoru's fate.

All these years later nobody understands the story, themes or the MC's character and motivations

obligatory

If you wanted an Airi ending, fine, awesome, totally on board. Don’t spend the majority of the manga/anime taking the iconography of a childhood romance and shipteasing us. Could have even worked if you did something with that band-aid rip, really make a hard point, but that would require bravery.
Instead you suckered the audience with bait and then swept it under the rug before you delivered on the controversial bit. You invented a convoluted way so it could never be, wrapped it up, and stuck MC with the consolation prize.

How is it any more cuckish than if the baby was light-skinned

there was no romance retard, satou just wanted to save the girl and his mom

The reaction to this proves that Anon Babble can't handle anything sadder than a Disney princess-tier ending.

that's just what happens when you're coddled and spoiled all your life so any kind of negative notion makes your little clitty quiver

Don’t gaslight me fagtron, there was doki doki, there was handholding, there was romantic moments like the tree, there was awkwardness, there were characters shipping them, the pair was absolutely pushed to emotionally exploit the audience.
And then he took the cowards way out. Bitch move. The author wanted the hook but didn’t want to cash the check.

In this hypothetical, did I also mentally regress to the age of 11?
Because if I, as an 11 year old, found out that 2 kids I saved grew up to get married and have a baby, I'd feel like a fucking superhero and be unbelievably hyped at how awesome I am.

It wasn’t handled in a meaningful way, you were just thrown into a contrived situation and told to accept it just because.
Sad, awesome do something ballsy. This was the most cowardly way to finish this story.

He should not have saved the femboy kid.

That character isn’t a bad person either. He was just written by a cowardly writer.

it's all his fault

you sound like a woman

White men just fantasize about their girlfriends having sex with José/Tyrone for some reason

I wouldn't mind it that much. He won bigly by getting the prime JK pussy instead of disloyal hag hoe.

You sound like I made a point and you have nothing.
You wanna old yeller me? Do it, shoot the dog the story was making me like, but if you do that ending you better make it count.
This ending didn’t make it count. It just bent itself backwards to avoid confronting itself. Total pussy.

why are pajeets so entitled and perverted?

you made no points, you just projected your pathetic delusion on a piece of media to have some sort of a ego trip
you can't discuss simple entertainment in civil fashion

So if a gay man saves your life, you're obligated to fuck him?
What the fuck is wrong with this board.

Kek what a cuck

Delusion

The series went out of its way to bait the romantic chemistry between them. It didn’t have to do it, but it did. I gave several examples, there are more. You have to be totally acting in bad faith to ignore it, or you have absolutely no experience with romantic media whatsoever.
I would have accepted:
1. No romantic teasing -> Airi end
2. Romantic teasing -> Old Yeller with a point
3. Romantic teasing -> delivery
This simple entertainment had several avenues to do right by itself, but he chose the manipulative and cowardly way to do it. Your only recourse to defend this ending is to pretend it didn’t do what it did.

Imagine that you are a soldier going to war and then when you come home she already has a baby with Tyrone. isn’t that the exact same thing?

It's not the same thing, no. It's more like this:

Then why is Anon Babble and Anon Babble by extension positively drowning in negative notions and opinions?

True, and lately they've begun to blame pajeets when they feel cornered or see opinions they dislike(as opposed to just Semites)

Hello saar

Good evening, "saar".

this is why I always ask for sex in advance before helping
and people say you can't learn anything from anime

baby isn't black

sour grapes

It’s like a reverse Usagi Drop in that way. That manga had a totally aromantic appeal that suddenly hard steered into controversial romance. This manga teased a controversial time travel romance and when the time came he asspulled himself to a lukewarm conclusion.

12 episodes of Kayo x Satoru build up. All this for great cuckening by offscreen character. Reminds me of YMK bad end. I think there was Anon Babble "meme" for it too.

it's realistic huur duurr

Main villain should have just died from heart attack or car crash while MC was in the coma. It can happen to anyone after all. The realistic and thought-provoking story conclusion.

The story was written in a manner which heavily implied they would end up together.
If you look up "erased manga/anime/series" the first images you see are of the two of them together. There are multiple examples of promotional material where the two of them are featured together, both the manga as well as the DVD/BD.
Despite the killer himself being the central reason he was sent back in time, the introduction of the girl as a central character whom the protagonist interacts with extensively solidifies her role in the eyes of the reader as "the love interest", fulfilling the trope of the childhood friend-turned-lover later in life. It sets up a narrative payoff, builds on it over the course of the story, but at the last moment it flips the script and doesn't pay out.
Even if it was never the author's intention to pair them together, the way the story is written as well as the promotional material for the series heavily implies that she is the main love interest for the main protagonist.

It's a bit of a narrative bait-and-switch.

not even close, cuck

Honestly satoru barely knew airi whereas he spent the entire time (travel lol) with kayo.
The airi stuff at the end feels forced.

Exactly.
I don’t get caught up in “the characters acting dishonorably” just like I don’t get caught up on “it’s realistic”.
Was it what the story was setting up? If not, was the hard twist used to do something interesting? No to both? Then it dropped the ball.
I’m not even an all or nothing hater, I’m stuck liking parts of this work (and no not just the romance), but the conclusion isn’t one of them. Fumble.

It's the author's consolation prize to the reader

see? He actually stills ends up with someone in the end. And she's a cute highschool girl!

Imo they couldve showed a timelapse of her visiting him everyday and eventually growing up and having her child
At least it showed use that she actually cared about him

It is forced but the more i think about it what was even the point of airi?
The entire narrative happens in the past and airi is literally the only character that isn't in the past.

Even if the author didn't intend on shipping them you couldn't fault the reader for expecting him too because of how he wrote that shit along with everything else

Would have been more brutal but ultimately a little better. I still think it doesn’t say enough to justify the contrivance.
Cynic in me says she was the escape hatch if he was too much of a pussy to go through with Kayo. It’s possible she was the goal from the beginning but if that was the case he handled that poorly.

put your entire life on hold for some comatose dude

Nah, she did the right thing to move on and be happy instead

Can't anons imagine just being happy that someone who was previously dead when you were an adult is now alive and has lived a full happy life?

It seems so beautiful to me.

Kayo did nothing wrong.
The writer did by putting her in that stupid situation in the first place.

I can imagine it, but in the context of this specific narrative, the romantic implications set up by the story sour the moment.

some comatose dude

weird way to write her savior, friend who spend most of her childhood together
this kayo bitch didn't deserve saving

I don't know the actual context, but based on what you provided, I would be happy. I didn't save another human being for the expectation of sex, I did it, because it is the right thing to do. If 15 years of my life can save the live of another person that I personally judged to be a good person, then go ahead
Of course, in reallife I don't know anyone that is worth 15 years of my life, even if sex was expected afterwards

put your entire life on hold for some comatose dude

Bread and butter for good story. "Girl waiting for man to return from journey/war" is old epic everyone loves. Not cuckshit.
If anything the fact that killer didn't move on tells you a lot. This isn't the first manga from this author with retarded ending.

wanting to fuck someone is not loving that person, that is usually just a bonus. Loving someone means you want them to be happy, even if it is not with you.
You can call it cuck mentallity or NTR all you want, that is what love is. It's fine if you have never felt this way about another human being, and all you think about is getting your dick into a pussy, that's cool, but it's not love.

You can call it cuck mentallity

It is.

The show didn’t make that point. It didn’t make any larger point with the contrivance. It just exploited the controversial romance when it was easy, and then dropped it when it would have required bravery to continue. It didn’t commit to breaking it off and saying something, it didn’t commit to making it happen. It just flip flopped, and snuck out the back door with its tail between its legs.

two people that would’ve died if not for him came together and made a new life
that’s literally the most beautiful thing that could ever happen
but you let yourself be blinded by your self inserting

that’s literally the most beautiful thing that could ever happen

blinded by your self inserting

t. self inserting NTRcuck

Nips can't write good endings

Blinded

The story teased it, regularly. It didn’t have to, but it did. Stop gaslighting that this is an unreasonable expectation on the story.
See:

Its ironic since i just wanted fate to reward the hero, but instead he got punished with this BS, and then worse some people defend it as "something precious".

this

Wow it would have been great if the story was constructed to sell that point instead of you having to pretend it did.

Travelling through time to save people from dying = realistic, I can suspend my disbelief
Woman waiting a few years for the man she loves = unrealistic, completely unbelievable

It’s a dumb argument anyway. Realism is often used as an excuse for poor execution.

NTR is so fucking repulsive. What is wrong with the Japanese?

How is this NTR

Actual NTR would at least have dealt with the situation, this was just cowardly Pseudo-NTR.

Unironically yes.
There's an uncanny valley of suspension of disbelief. Audiences can believe in any sort of fantasy element, but won't believe in unrealistic behavior from characters.

that baby is going to grow up so confused if kayo tells her story.

This, he got the superior girl in the end, so who cares.
I blame the anime for this.

so you got saved by this man but you.. abandoned him for his friend?

Can you imagine if the ending of Your Name was "Mitsuha moves on and fucks Tessie"? Kek

The other girl was introduced before, though

Mitsuha moves on and fucks Tessie

Kino. Biennale Cinema material.

You are actually on crack if you believe movie magic won’t have people believing in impossible displays of love. Romeo and Juliet have them fucking suiciding themselves over it.
Anyway, the coma situation in general is the bitch move, not Kayo’s reaction to it.

offscreen character

So you're just shitposting about stuff you don't even remember?

Didn't he spend only a couple of days/weeks with Kayo in total, even counting the loops?

shippers ruining discourse in yet another manga

I'm sorry your favorite pairing didn't make it, just get over it.

Why are people so bad at fiction? In the story man, come on. The audience’s experience mostly centers on the relationship between these two characters. That’s the bulk of the show.

Gaslighting. The series blatantly exploited the pairing and then cast it aside without a better plan.

He's a side character with zero screentime.

Plus he never even expressed romantic interest in her anyway. What the fuck did people expect? That she would just hold out on having any romantic relationships or living her life on the off chance that the kid who saved her when she was 10 wanted to dick her down? (Which he didn't)

That she would just hold out on having any romantic relationships or living her life

It's okay when killed do this right? Realistic.

He was shown to have romantic interest and even had to remind himself constantly not to think that way (which means he was). He blushes, acts awkward, they do romantic stuff together, other characters treat it that way, etc.

What do you expect

I expect the writer not to be a massive pussy and put the characters in a sudden, contrived and unwinnable situation so he can sidestep the controversial relationship he teased all manga.

Plus he never even expressed romantic interest in her anyway

No, he did.
He went from admiration from afar-->actively acting and befriending her---->spent time together with her---->start becoming more intimate with her
But then all of it got deleted by coma arc.

He only knew her as a 10 year old girl, for a very short period of time, no less. Even if she was single when he woke up, he'd know pretty much nothing about the kind of person she's become or what personality/likes and dislikes she has.

they went from strangers to friends when they were kids, that's it.

Exactly.

But [reality]

This is a STORY. You set up a romantic development arc, people expect a payoff. You choose to defy expectations? You better have a good point to make by doing so. You have no point and just want some drama? You’ve failed.

unironic ending apologists

How can Kayo's cuckSHIT even compete with this

youtube.com/watch?v=fHCCG_vUA7k

Or Sakura from HF normal end? Or Victorica from Gosick?

So the tankoubon had an extension of the double spread final panel.
Getting a deja vu from picrel (from Shounen no Abyss final volume additional final kinospread after the magazine version last panel).

The theme of hero paying for doing good was introduced in the beginning. And still after post-coma recovery he ended up in a better position than before.

It wasn’t dwelled on at all or made poignant. It was just skirted over as quickly as possible.

If it was me i would've just saved my mom and not really given a fuck about some rando classmate desu

Basically, in a fantasy story, we're more ready to believe something impossible than something improbable, even though the latter might be possible irl.

KINO, 10/10 MASTERPIECE OF REALISM.

Because Copa get to have sex with the people they save. Same with doctors and fire fighters

It would have been legendary if he sperged out at her for not waiting. Just fully have him flip out.

Isn't that just 5 centemiters?

It it’s actually committed to that ending and it’s powerful.
This ending is just a wishy washy rug sweep.

just woke up from coma

starts DBSposting IRL immediately

Why are Amerilards like this?

In reality killer wouldn't wait 900 years for MC to wake up.
In reality the killer would have been caught long ago.
In reality MC wouldn't wake up from such coma.

reality only counts to empower my cuck fantasies

Wild that people will literally just lie about how the relationship was portrayed to excuse the ending.

The baby is the result of the people he saved getting to live meaningful lives and being happy, showing the MC's sacrifice wasn't in vain.

I blame the anime.

See

I clap

I don’t remember her ever having romantic feelings for him in the first place.

you saved someone and want a bit of respect from them?

how dare you ask for something so reasonable?

I'm sorry you thought you were reading a romance manga.

But he did get a lot of respect. The fuck are you on about?

I’m sorry you have to pretend the manga didn’t exploit the pairing to justify the ending constructed specifically to skirt around it.

Didn’t she constantly check up on him while he was in a coma? Sounds like she respects and cares for him.

Take the shipper goggles off, the supposed romantic tension was a teeny tiny element of the manga.

You’re focused on the wrong thing. Kayo’s reaction is understandable given the circumstances.
The author didn’t have to pull those circumstances out of his rear end.

Wow i sure love that she respects me so much that the first thing she does it show me her baby she had with my friend after saving her life.

waiting indefinitely without for someone you barely know to wake up from a coma (which isn't even guaranteed) in the off chance they want to marry you for some reason

reasonable

Nope, it was present plenty. You genuinely have to be autistic or extremely bad faith to pretend like it wasn’t there. The anime did enhance it for some reason but it was always there.

Well, I expected something like that. But then the story still provided a reward for MC, so I don't see it as a big deal. The only thing he really lost was an opportunity to experience adolescence for the second time. Family, friends, job - everything seems to be better than how it was in 1st chapter
If anything, his mother is the one who was "punished" the most.

I can understand Kayo not waiting, but what was disloyal is hooking up with his friend. Both Hiromi? and Kayo did him dirty.

Self-awareness: OFF

Trying to drag down a conversation about what is and isn’t a satisfying story with “muh realism” arguments

showing the friend you had in elementary school your baby

Doesn't seem disrespectful to me.

People that aren't mentally ill don't see a woman they've never been in a relationship with holding a baby and immediately mad about how it wasn't them that impregnated her, anon

Because the anime was a terrible adaptation, and it poisoned the well for secondaries like you.

Grvke.

it was different in the manga I swear, u-u secondaries!

How the fuck Anon Babble still analpain about this shit... FOR 20 FUCKING YEAR

It is disrespectful and makes you look like a bad person.

The audience was the one punished after being strung along and then subverted because the author is a non-committal pussy.

ur a well poisoned secondary if you actually engaged with the meat of the story

The mangaka did it to himself. See:

you are just mentally ill

Autism.

Good thing characters aren’t people and stories aren’t real life and expectations for stories aren’t the same thing as expectations of reality and you can’t excuse an author for setting up elements and then failing to deliver on or meaningfully subvert them by calling the audience losers.

sharty

KYS

So now the problem is that the ending wasn't extremely generic and predictable?

This is not NTR either.

I'd be WAY more upset about having lost 15 years of my life than about not having scored whatever random thot

why would this be my problem?

No, the problem is that it didn’t do anything with what it set up between them.
Commit? Great. Subvert with a point? Great. Do neither, brush it under the rug and rush on out the door? Total coward move.

ending wasn't extremely generic and predictable?

You can make more unpredictable ending if Kayo died offscreen from AIDS or was killed. Such unpredictability. Imagine making show about saving Kayo and kill her in the last EP. Narrative kino.

How many of you are the same person replying to himself?

Jojo did this, and it was also kino there. Not even joking.

Paying off what you set up in a story is generic and predictable

What if a nuke dropped on all of them because of a time paradox? 10/10 I never saw it coming.

you know maybe kayo's mother had a point abusing kayo
this girl doesn't deserve happiness

Retard take. Kayo isn’t the problem, it’s the author.

Kayo did nothing wrong.

Correct, but her author did.
Exploited the controversial relationship when it was easy, and then asspulled his way out of it when it would take bravery to confront his own actions. The mark of a coward.

Breadcrumbs at most. She's the focal point of his efforts since she was the first girl to be murdered, and he does develop genuine affection that could have turned to romantic love given the chance, but it was never the point of the story.
Fucking Airi was a more viable love interest throughout the manga, and she doesn't even appear in the past segments

I watched it without being spoiled and I actually couldn’t believe my eyes. I recognized the screencap from Anon Babble but I never knew it was this anime. I felt cheated for getting invested. Didn’t help that the rest of the ending was rushed and didn’t feel worth the twist.

Reminder that the ED's singer is dead.

Stop replying to yourself! Psycho

Their relationship was the driving force of most of the manga.

Her magnum opus was Ranpo Kitan ED.

the entire coma arc is a joke
the way they resolved the killer stuff was unsatisfying too

Let's make the killer poison this random hospital child for no reason just so MC can finally call the police.

It was so devious a part of me wonders if he has an NTR fetish.

controversial

It’s pretty normal desu

You people never read true ntr

I fully acknowledge that a 30 year old mind in a child’s body living through a do over of his own life and developing a relationship with romantic subtext with a classmate is taboo.

Childhood friend and time + effort + heartache spent only to lose her to a coma and it’s your friend who does it, wake up to her holding the baby

It’s a little suspect lmao

I remember MT threads about this.

Is there a redo-your-life manga that actually does the childhood romance thing? I know about “[Maron Maron] Gaki ni Modotte Yarinaoshi!!!“ but that’s a bit rapey for me.

Childhood isekai is best isekai.

a bit rapey

I mean, it is what it is. I’m not moralfagging it but it doesn’t give the heart a boner.
He rapes his childhood bully on her desk at school.

L-Let me watch next time, please...

entire story is about childhood innocence and love and friendship.

they pull an ntr-like ending for the conclusion implying betrayal, and making the characters all look like shit people.

There's no excuse for this.
If you have some it's probably cope.

The author is a bad person for putting the audience in that situation.

Good take.

99% of the excuses are claiming that anyone who picked up on the incredibly obvious romantic subtext was a delusional shipper and there was never anything to pay off on in the first place. Gaslighting, basically.

Never had strong feelings about it, other than how it was presented.

remember me, lol?

look at my baby, lmao

Really liked the adaptation and I'm the kind of guy that considers most anime shit.
I get the meme and shit-posting potential, but a number of crazy things could have happened during the time he was in coma and this one wasn't particularly shocking.

I have never in my life spoken to a person in the real world who actually considers this ntr. In fact the people I’ve talked to don’t seem to believe that there are degenerates who could see it as a betrayal.

man fuck realism it basically destroys the idealized friendship built up in the series when you pull shit like this.
It makes me doubt whether they were even good friends at all.

No one cares about your classmates. Go back.

You can call it NTR or not, I don’t really care about the label. The point is the author was irresponsible with what he was doing. Don’t tease if you’re too much of a pussy to deliver/subvert with purpose. If the core character dynamic of the show, with romantic subtext, is thrown for a loop to make way for a big twist that wasn’t even good, you fucked up.

Nothing is more annoying about modern manga/anime discussion than kissless zoomers' mentally ill, anaphylactic hypersensitivity to romantic rejection.
This shit was ten degrees of separation from anything that could even slightly resemble NTR, and yet retards broke out in hives over it.
You can't have near-universal human experiences of romantic disappointment or rejection in manga/anime anymore due to the hordes of NTR-deranged peanut allergy fags.

without sounding suicidal

I will never kill myself because of some hole

It’s le realistic!

If the mangaka wanted to explore that, he could have actually explored that, instead of you having to pretend like he did instead of just asspulling himself out of an uncomfortable situation HE WROTE HIMSELF IN and then brushing under the rug as quickly as possible.

show peaked in episodes 8-10
the last two don't exist
op and ed were still kino though
m.youtube.com/watch?v=fodAJ-1dN3I&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

didn't watch it, so the serial killer wanted to give free sex to the MC? guess she was a hot tsundere killer like in Gasai Yuno.

No it’s a dude and unlike his childhood friend he waited patiently for his return.

Every excuse under to sun to let the author off the hook lmao.

If you had expectations for the main topic of the story, you’re a zoomer

so he was a gay killer? Eww

He loved him asexually.

He didn't want to explore that
He didn't explore that
The thing you are kvetching about, about the MC not getting the girl you shipped him with, was explicitly not explored in the story

And despite this here you are crying about the imaginary NTR of two romantically uninvolved characters.

They didn’t like this one chief.

Shit as the ending was, I did really enjoy the nostalgic atmosphere of the past scenes. Nailed that down.

I got banned years ago posting that shit

He didn’t want to explore that

Then he shouldn’t have baited it. You set something up, you pay it off, subvert it with purpose, or you fail.

NTR

Not stated by me.

thanks for cucking you're savior mom, I wouldn't be born if you weren't like this :)

Nah.

MC didn't leave emptyhanded too. The ending was made in a way MC should also chase his happiness, just like the others could finally be happy.
That happiness being the JK who firmly believed in him (apparently now a prime JD).

mother best waifu
If satoru had realized that earlier he wouldn't have as many problems
Don't play with girls, you always lose, except if they are your mother, you can always trust a family member

Yes, the author after cowardly sidestepping the situation he put himself in with an asspull, managed to give MC a consolation prize.

ZASED
GRVKE TRVKE

normalfag begone

based

consolation prize

Read again the fucking manga.
Airi was no consolation prize in any mean.

>>/shart/

True.

Anon, while I agree, your post is not going to change anyone's opinion. They've already made their decision.

Calm down, speak english.
And yes, she was the used as a consolation prize by a cowardly mangaka who teased a controversial relationship for the meat of his story, only to bitch out and asspull it away, not to make a big point, but just to avoid the situation he wrote himself into.

That’s absolutely what she was there for lol.

Airi was first girl, and everyone knows the first girl wins.
I'm sorry if you bet on the wrong horse, but at least you can now let go and live your life.

Im so happy for you!

because my time-travel was to save my mother and stop the child murders, and those two ended making a new life

he's still trying but now with " kissless zoomers' mentally ill, anaphylactic hypersensitivity to romantic rejection" takes

You can’t defend the ending so your only recourse is to insult those who point out how retarded it is. To pretend that the relationship that was the core focus of the manga had no romantic subtext and thus never needed an answer (even though the coma was itself an asspull to skirt around it).

The page that buck broke Anon Babble.
Lmao fpbp

Gives logical reason why they don't get together

NO BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND I DONT CARE IF IT MAKES SENSE OR NOT I JUST WANT MY SHIP TO WORK OUT BECAUSE I LIKE IT

K, b, c.

See
If Airi was the intended ending it was handled poorly.

Gives real life logic to a story that operates on narrative logic, setups, payoffs and expectations

If the intention was to do this, it should have been set up differently in the past. The author failed to lead up to this ending properly.

I see the idiots woke up.

Your answer?

Just because YOU expected it/wanted it doesn't mean that its how the story should've ended. It makes sense for them not to be together, it made sense from the very start given that he was an adult in a childs body and she was 10. Hell even if he didn't go into a coma and grew up again normally it'd be some weird grooming type thing.

Nice early page. Shouldn’t have developed against that as the story went along if you wanted this to hold true.

woha, so romantic, so loyal, why didn't the MC live with him then?

I still you missed the point of this page.

look how the fuck do you spend so much time and time lines trying to save someone if you don't truly love them?
Explain this to me.

"while you were in the coma, i had your semen extracted. meet our baby husbando-kun"

It's so fucked up that J. R. R. Tolkien NTR'd Frodo at the end of LotR by having Sam marry Rosie despite the romantic relationship that was the core focus of the manga.

See
The author did this to themselves. Don’t tease it if you’re not going to do it, or subvert it with a purpose. He could have made that point, or one of many points, but instead he milked the controversial pairing when it was easy, and then asspulled it away when it came time to be brave about answering for what he set up (committing or subverting with purpose). I didn’t need the pairing to work out to be happy I would have accepted several other options for the story to actually be consistent.

hmmmm

Nice false equivalence.

this
Actions >Words

Didn't he got a younger JK at the end? That's a winning in my book.

he's posting coma arc chapters

all characters are suddenly trying to convince the reader it wasn't romantic out of nowhere

LMAO
The mangaka did this on purpose

Gaiden

early page

That's from the very end of the manga
He loves her, as a friend.

I will ignore all evidence that doesn't agree with what I already think

You can tell the mangaka is insecure about his decision because this is his attempt at a band-aid (doesn’t help).

He loves her, as a friend.

Clearly not, as he puts her above the other friends.

The very end of the manga

It’s a gaiden page that was made afterwards to sell the coma arc better actually, so you’re both wrong.

Because she's about to be killed by a serial killer.
Also, having friends you love more than other friends doesn't mean you have to have a romantic interest on them.

Cope.
He clearly puts more attention on her.

The author’s retcon solution to make his horrible idea go down better? Satoru gets cucked by his mom.

Author's damage control

Still shows clear authorial intent.
Just stop coping my lad, and face the fact you're obsessed with NTR.

When your twist is so shit you have to dedicate a whole new couple of chapters after the final one to cope

Oh nonono

She was in love with him, he wasn't really in love with her.

Anon, it's just you who wants to fuck a ten years old girl while having the mind of a 30-year old man

clear authorial intent.

Mass Effect 3 tier ending

Authorial intent

Nope, damage control after the fact doesn’t count, cope.
The author dropped the ball with what he set up, because he’s a pussy.

Because she's about to be murdered you obtuse nigger.

If that’s a bad desire to have for this story then it shouldn’t have teased it in the first place.

age is not body but mind

So?
Dosen't change anything.

NTRcucks… care to explain?

Gomen audience-sama, please take my extended retcon to feel better about my asspull

It's the whole reason he's paying her so much attention in the first place, anon.
You really shouldn't conflate the desire to help someone with the desire to have a romantic relationship with them

retcon

We won. This is SnK ending all along.

Shippers are cancer I wish they would all die.

This whole side story was released months after the main manga was over. This is the author trying to salvage his idiotic ending.

He likes her in a romance way, Cope.

Paying attention to what the manga is showing you isn’t being a shipper.

he's still trying to cry about shippers

Your gaslighting doesn't work here, cuck.

thinks saving women will automatically get him laid

white knights get what they deserve

no argument

I accept your concession.

blame shippers

how about you blame author sama for fucking up the story

He loves his mom (he travel back in time to save her)

I swear when i watch this at the time, people DID NOT want the MC to hook up with the dead girl because PEDOPHILIA . What changed?

people

kys

You got off reddit and came here.

Author san shouldve made up some bs where he was slowly losing his adult brain and memories

I presented it as it is. Draw your own conclusions.

How in the fuck do you guys have a 350 post thread
It's not like I watched Erased but I remember the rage when the finale aired lmao
Just stop bumping it and getting angry over nothing retards
No, you are not "enjoying your anger"
If it was shit, then you'd let the thread die

Fuck off thread janny, This is free board.

you don't decide where i post retard.

My conclusion is author-san knew he was a fucking coward for doing the coma and retconned the ending to try and excuse his asspull the best he could. It’s unfixable, but you can see that he tried to pay off on the feelings earlier on in the manga.

time loop thriller about a man trying to stop a serial killer

people only ever talk about their puppy love ship that didn't pan out

It's so tiresome. It's such a small element of the manga, but it captured the mindbroken crowd that is obsessed with seeing NTR and cucking everywhere.

Is trolling. We all know

He was set with pizza girl even before the unsolved murder plot was introduced

He didn't think of her for years until the killer show up again

The person he really want to save was his mom (and himself from jail)

The coma was a a consequence for the extended use of his Powers

He didn't save the girl to have sex with her (unlike anon)

People are more willing to accept fucking time travel than a cheesy, cliche but still nice ending where she waits for him

The absolute state of this board and society in general.

why do you care?

it doesn't matter!

Anything else?

Rule for writers: Don’t write a check you can’t cash.

0/10
The retcon ending already got it most of the way there lol.

Nice response faggot, I bet this thread is a solid 44% you

Why suicidal? He wanted to save his mom, Kayo and Hiromi. and that's exactly what he did.
He was pretty happy about it.

I wouldn't be surprised if author a woman.

the author OWES me the ending I want, even if it doesn't make sense

“Is it mine?”

Ending that i want =/= ending that the story wasn't leading to
You really think the ending of this was where the early chapters were going storywise?

The writer owes the audience a delivery on what they set up, unless they can subvert expectations to make a point or give them something they didn’t know they wanted.
Author-san did neither, it was a rug sweep to avoid hard questions because he’s a pussy, and then the final arc was trash. He’s lucky he set up Airi.

You always post the same and you are always wrong and sound like a self inserting faggot.

I bet you wouldn't be complaining about the Airi set-up not being followed if Kayo and Satoru had gotten together, you hypocrite.

I watched the live action version of this first and I didn't realize it was the same show you all complain about until the scene happened.

He's absolutely right and reasonable. His statements are akin to 2+2=4. If anything Team NTR has a lot good and reasonable posts ITT explaining why ending is shit. It's so bad author was forced to damage control in bonus chapter.

What were your thoughts and feelings?

There was no romance

Did we read the same manga?

Airi

No one cared about her in Anon Babble ongoing threads and manga thread. This is how irrelevant she was.

I would not be complaining about a framing device character, compared to the main heroine of the story, no.

No need to up vote your own post. You have beed doing this for years, ignoring responses, doing circular arguments, appeal to emotion and wasting your own time with a 13 year old manga.

Boogiemanning multiple anons calling a shit ending shit

Schizo behavior

There are people who don’t like the implications of Kayo X Satoru, but like this anime/manga and yes, they genuinely convince themselves that there was no set up there. They interpret everything through a “walk her home gently” level blindfold.

kayo x satoru

so you admit you are a schizo shipper sethhing about his ship not coming true
?

The first time I watched the anime I was actually hype for the coma because I was like, oh, that’s how he’s gonna get with Kayo. Instead of Your Name I got slapped.

It's obvious he is

No, I’m describing a pairing that was set up by anyone paying even the slightest attention to the narrative.
The payoff was an asspull for (weak) drama.

No, fuck off.

the little girl I sacrificed 15 year in a coma to save grew up and is now a mother

awesome

the baby is black

and now I regret it

politely inform her she owes me 15 years of backlogged sex

Lowercase posting roach has no arguments and can only cry about shippers and mythical samefags. You can see the exact moment he got broken.

oh so you admit to samefaggin
?

He had much bigger concerns at the time, anon. Maybe love would have blossomed if things had gone differently, but he was definitely not in love by the time he fell into the water

I kept seeing brainlet arguments blaming Kayo when honestly her actions are totally understandable. She’s not a bad person, the author is just a coward for putting these characters and the audience in that position. It was so fucking easy, just don’t shiptease the main heroine if you’re not gonna follow through. This could have been that story, but it wasn’t, he wanted the hook but without taking responsibility.

he did it again

Very rude post.
This.

Meds now

I'm not going to accuse you of samefagging, since that is a circular argument, but don't act as if a screenshot proved anything.

I wonder how kayo is in bed
Hirochi whatever is so lucky

His name is hiromi.

satoru should have gotten with him

nah satoru should have fucked the gay teacher that actually waited for him.

gay teacher

Lmaoooo

This. Gaku was owed sex.

If you’re an Airifag, hey, I get it. If you’re weirded out by the implications of the 30 year old brain in a child’s body and his classmate having something, I get it. I’m not particularly concerned about the difference in our opinions there.
What does bother me is people who pretend like the set up didn’t happen. Straight up cope that the story they like didn’t push the ship they’re not into. I’m not even a diehard Kayofag, my favorite girl is the mom. But that relationship was a major focus for much of the show, and I feel like the author made possibly the worst combination of choices regarding it. If Airi was always the endgame, he shouldn't have had any romantic tension between Satoru and Kayo at all. I’d have been down with that. The issue is he was a flip flopping half-measure pussy that didn’t do his job well. The manga could have landed so much better, and making the ship work wasn’t even the only way to do it. It’ll just have to remain a flawed and interesting manga with a weak conclusion I guess. So it goes.

I think the relationship between Satoru and Kayo has more elements than the purely romantic, and trying to reduce it to just a dropped romance route is a disservice to both characters.

Not only is she a disloyal whore bitch, she's also a completely insensitive psychopath. She didn't have to shove the result of her slutty nature in his face like that.
She could've shown at least a little respect to her hero.

But muh realism don't you like realism?

Their relationship wasn’t just romantic, but it wasn’t not romantic either. They are childhood friends, he brought her out of her toxic home life, showed her what it feels to be cared about, what a loving home looks like.
Just because I recognized a romantic trajectory doesn’t mean I exclusively interpret their relationship through that lens.

the author really did nail realism in his portrayal of the average 3dpd female, huh

he is in the original unedited version

At times you guys sound like annoying Anon Babblefags that call a regular series yuribait just cause their delusions didn't come true.

Kayo didn’t do anything wrong in universe. It was the author who dropped the ball.

The difference is the show absolutely reveled in childhood friend romance trappings until it came time to face the music and did a frontflip with an insane asspull to avoid having to deal with it. This is not a case of shippers looking too deep into something, I was just following the story as presented.

More Hiromi dick please

I love betraying my friend

Slutty

She only ever had sex with the father of her children

very true, many are saying this

correct, this manga is an actual golden life lesson
no matter how much you try, give up or sacrifice for a woman, she can easily proceed to get impregnated by some literal who
it's up to you whether you want to get burned by playing the rat race, or just drop out and relax

Childhood romance don't usually last only 3 months

BASED

But he didn't do it for her, he did it for his mom and himself first and for Kayo second.

osananajimifag

Don't get uppity. You should already know that childhood friends always lose.

Is hiromi the real chad?
He got the beauty that is kayo
He plaps it every day
He has a beautiful baby that kayo feeds with her breasts

Stories aren’t real life.
You set something up, you’ve created expectations in the audience. You can either validate those expectations, or subvert them. If you choose to subvert them, it should either be something they didn’t even know they wanted, or to make a big point about what they wanted. Instead the mangaka decided to write this aspect out of the story as abruptly as physically possible, in service of a twist ending that wasn’t even good Kayo aside. It wasn’t an absolute 0/10 disaster of an ending in the sense that the hero beat the villain and got a hopeful ending of his own, but it absolutely chose to intentionally avoid a major dramatic question of the meat of the manga, and essentially sever the main relationship (not just romantic) to do it.

Based Hiromi.
True Hero of Erased.

I didn't read/watch this, but show proof.

Your response?

Is this your way of flirting with me? Because I'm into that and we would be cute together.

A female having sex with anyone other the man she should be having it with is being a slut. It doesn't matter if it's only 1 other guy she's spreading her legs for.

stop being delusional man
you're falling for the false dilemma of whether the girl had to marry and have 5 kids with a rando or remain pure for 20 years waiting for the MC
she could have had relationships, she may have been a bycicle in university, and all of this could have simply been omitted and left to people's imagination as long as she was single and available when MC woke up that's all that was needed, that's the path of least resistance
the fact that she *wasn't* means there was an intentional decision to direct the story in a certain direction, and it was to give men a reminder that women are not worth shit

What romantic subtext?

I just can't see it as that important, man. I honestly think your expectations for the romantic development of satoru and kayo were too high.
Though, that seems to be a pretty big camp, so it's not like you're alone in that regard, but it all stinks of shipping to me.

you win, and know you have. That guy is a third worlder cuck fan who hates himself because he reincarnated as a lower class. Palatines like you and I who understand narratives and aren't addicted to cuckoldry as a lifestyle, mindset, and life framework can see that Erased has serious writing issues b8ing a love story and then rug pulls it to insult the viewer in a Rian Johnsony 'twist'
if you actually think Hiromi ending up with her is good writing, you won't mind me fucking your childhood friend than tardanons. tyvm

Maybe being femenine cute works better for girls

I’m not even an avid pursuer of that fantasy, I just took in the story as presented with my eyeballs. I knew that it might not happen, but I figured it would be done tastefully with respect to the effort put into it up front. Now in retrospect a lot of the earlier stuff seems cheap and exploitative.

Our True Hero!
Satoru Who?

No, it was obvously a way to show that she was living the life she never got the chance to live, thanks to MC, and that that brought new wonderful life into the world. And I'm not only talking about how he saved her life, he also saved her heart. Could you imagine early Kayo ever being happily married? Just making her conveniently available for him as soon as he wakes up would just turn her into a sort of reward, and it would spoil satoru's selflessness.

Maybe you're just too used to seeing babies used as a sort of 'gotcha' cucking moment, and that soured you on a perfectly tasteful moment.

and it was to give men a reminder that women are not worth shit

yeah
think about it
as much of a worthless slutty bitch kayo is, 3dpd women are worse

Or just don’t do the coma.
It used the language of other romance anime to tell its story, I was simply going off what I was presented. I’m fairly media experienced, this isn’t a case of a deranged shipper or whatever, I got into it because I have time travel as a story interest.
I don’t think it would have gone over poorly in a Your Name sort of way.

YIIPPEEEEEEEEE!!!

No, it wasn’t the baby scene in isolation, it was the baby scene in the context of the coma, after their story told in the past. It was baited, set up an expectation (deliver or address) and the response was an insane asspull to avoid confronting the situation he wrote himself into as much as possible, seemingly for the sake of a lackluster final confrontation and cheap drama. He didn’t have to set up, he didn’t have to have them get together, but he did have to address his dramatic question, and he didn’t. The universe bent to save him the trouble, we skipped all that shit and immediately were presented with it already “resolved”.

airi

relationship with mc is forced

no emotional connection, no history, no buildup therefore not fulfilling

sure, she's a jk, but kayo is cuter

horrible consolation prize

Me after seeing Chad Hirlmi fucked My Girl

he's crying so much he can even pronounce Hiromi's name

And, as I said a bunch of posts before, I may have agreed with you if this was a romance story, but it's not, so I don't really mind.
On the point about the coma and final confrontation.. well, I have my own gripes about how it was handled, but I think narratively, Satoru needed to pay a price for abusing his looping (no, reliving his adolescence as a happier more confident boy wouldn't have been a punishment [unless you count losing the chance to meet Airi]), and the coma was a fine way of doing that

She’s better set up in the manga so she goes from a wtf tier consolation prize to a decent consolation prize.

Holy based

Could become a Time Machine situation even, where he goes back again and again and she dies offscreen while he's in a coma every time.

The anime really was a horrible adaptation

I expect romance in a drama show to be handled appropriately too. Now, the ending didn’t have to be a wedding or something. But address what you set up, that’s all.

How did he do it?

He lucked out as the only thematically appropriate character to do the cucking.

Kayo abandoned satoru for this?

See if you can spot the chad
Hint: it's not satoru

Kek

It was addressed in the gaiden.

Based Hiromibros making satorufags sethee

blessed post

kek based

esl posts

Too little too late.
I can give him props because it absolutely is better than nothing, but it doesn’t elevate the choice to something “you didn’t know you wanted” or meaningfully comment on the dramatic question. He did decently with what he had to try to tune up I suppose, but a fool’s errand at that point.

Senor hiromi

Reddit: The Post

Hiromi doesn’t bother me at all.
Neither does Kayo.
Neither does the Mom in the Gaiden.
All reasonable people reacting to the situation.
Fuck the author for putting them and the audience, there.

Have you guys seen a movie called

Remember Me

It's not anime, it's a generic 3DPD hollywood romance schlok and the guy and girl end up together
But then there's an ending twist where the male MC looks out the window from his father's office
... on the 101st floor
of the World trade centre
date: september 11, 2001

I don't know why this thread reminded me of it
Maybe because both endings are nonsensical

How would you have written/ended Erased Anon Babblenons?

MC marries Kayo, has sex with her, impregnates her, and has a baby or more with her.

Pretty much just continue on what they were doing before the car drown scene.
Maybe make Yashiro less suspicious, but i don't know how one would do that.

Serious answer, I’d need more time to really think about it. I have a sort of lazy coma fix in my head but I could get to a better one if I tried.
This guy has a better one (not 10/10 but better): youtube.com/watch?v=B2665NR6yxg&t=2632s

So this faggot youtuber is the one to blame for all this spams threads?

zoomer

anon it was like this 15 years ago as well...if anything people are more open to NTR related anime today than they were back then, which is why a literal anime about cheating wives is airing next season.

No, newfag, people have disliked this ending since it happened in the manga.

Yep. NTR has never been more accepted, which is to say, still very much not accepted.

a lot of bad faith actors in this thread

That increase in acceptance however, no matter how slight, is unacceptable.

NTR

You don't even know what that word means, c'mon.

If anything, it's zoomers who are open to things like NTR and allergic to traditional values because they're the prime victims of wokism.
You're an idiot.

'I should've known from the start you were the only one right for me.'

NTR didn't increase, seething about it did

The mangaka is a based ass man. I really like his afterwords

youre just b8ing atp

So what's the final consensus? Was it a good or bad ending?

Bad obviously.

Good, of course.

Either Kayo ending or no ending at all.
This is a non ending, cowardly way to not finish the plots Author wrote.

Kino

Flawed, but not for the reasons most people get mad about.

That's nice, now where is my cash for saving your life?

the manga is not about their romance, you daft cunt
it's only a side element, how many times do you need to hear this?

"Cool, I'm gonna go have sex with that pizza girl who was totally into me."

Eren Historia is totally what the ending was supposed to be

Just look at all those pages of symbolism

Look at le foreshadowing

all of onk

bnha "romance"

etc

it's always the same shit with shipperfaggots
sully everything else because of shit romance development
the author WILL "develop" a ship for 200 chapters and in the 201 the manga will end and the other girl WILL win
and you'll be retards for falling for it
learn to not read ongoing manga you dumbfucks

Never underestimate the power of retarded Japanese writing.

lol

I should probably reread the manga at some point. Wonder if knowing the ending and twists makes for a different experience.

There are many kinds of love.