Lazurus and the hollywoodization of Anime

Is not so much about one specific director like Watanabe being progressive as much as the whole anime industry feeling slop undistinguishable from any other Netflix show.

Lazarus is just the confirmation the industry as a whole is a corpse raiding the good will of the 90s and 00s people had for anime. Down to the endlessly soulless remakes to try and gather a bit of the spark they had. Hell, Lazarus itself is trying to ride the cocktails of Cowboy Bebop, they're using the same setup, the same character cast composition, even the same style of poster and music of Cowboy Bebop. The difference being Cowboy Bebop had beautiful hand-drawn backgrounds instead of CGI, natural but not over-the-top animation, credible characters like Spike with credible conflicts. Now we have some retard jumping through roofs, a girlboss granny, token character and a bunch of fucking underages with the most nonsensical plot ever that the world collapsed thanks to an analgesic.

It's pathetic, but also sad. That veterans of the industry saw this absolute slop and said "hell yeah, let's put on air (stream) this piece of garbage and put my name on it!" speaks of how fucking bad things are. People watched anime to run away from how shitty Western entertainment and art was, but now we're seeing the hollywoodization of anime in real time and is disheartening.

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You didn't notice until now? You don't deserve old anime.

I noticed years ago but it's like you've been screaming to the void and only more anons and even normies are taking notice.

That's true for literally every medium. Tv series, movies, video games etc. Just don't consume modern media, why can't you do that?

It's painful to see anime turn into what you hate

Some good stuffs are still being made but i mostly agree

If only more people realize this we won't have any Chinkshills shitting up the board since all of them will be too busy hyping up Hongkong films on Anon Babble

People watched anime to run away from how shitty Western entertainment and art was

Western entertainment was great back in the 80s and 90s and before. Where do you think the idea of Cowboys and bounty hunters came from? Or neonoir crime detectives? Where do you think Japan was getting all its scifi space inspiration from?

I will agree that NOW people are watching anime to get away from how shitty western entertainment currently is.

That veterans of the industry saw this absolute slop and said "hell yeah, let's put on air (stream) this piece of garbage and put my name on it!"

Watanabe has already done that 8 years ago.

Seeing your post is even more painful because of how painfully Cringe it is

normies

You don't deserve old anime.

I am a 2017 oldfag you fucking zoomer.

2017

oldfag

I think it's more-so the case of Watanabe being pigeonholed into making something his heart's not in. Adultswim just wants to reanimate the corpse of yet another toonami classic, they already did this with FLCL previously.

2017

oldfag

Jesus Christ what am I still doing here...

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In terms of animation and nerd stuff? No it was. Everything was capeshit and cartoons for children. 0 nudity and 0 blood in most of them and the average capeshit hero moralfagging "we don't kill here". In terms of movies, videogames, etc. you're right, there was a lot of good stuff but animation was always limited in the west.

You're not me. Stop ragebaiting fag.

But this time I was able to make the film quite freely

So he was given full creative freedom and he came up with this shit? Grim.

I asked them if I could make something I wanted

They said no

Basically, I have complete creative control

quick sampling of the work that gets okayed under this helm btw

I still enjoy lazarus for the okay adventure/plot its got going on but yeah its pretty shit amercanized tv garbage
here's your (You)

trying to backpedal

No one is buying it.

Somewhere in my heart of hearts I dream Lazurus is just Watanabe trolling them for having been such fanboys and not giving him 100% freedom.

But honestly it doesn't give off that vibe. More the half-hearted effort like you were saying.

I don't think its fair to discredit so much amazing animation just because it was "for children." No one discredits Ghibli because it's for children. And cartoons like Popeye have better animation and direction than most shounen.

Just an honest question, is there anyone that really like quips? Maybe I'm wrong but I think this is the first anime with them on it and I hate it.

You should of made this thread about that awful looking CG movie Hosoda is making for hollywood

Yeah, but anime would be terrible if everything was Ghibli. Which is the problem of Western animation, everything is two variations of the same episodic bullshit that never goes anywhere and 99% of it is made for children. Japan moved away from that very early and that's why their catalog is so massive. But now the industry is regressing.

retarded newfag from Anon Babble experiences his first western commissioned anime

God you're dumb.

nice try but you need to be here since 2016 to be an oldfag.

All that slop

It'd be amazing if Lazarus was a troll or a meta-analysis of how fans misinterpret Spike as le cool guy that do the flips and not as a persona he uses to cope with the hand life dealt him. I mean he is le cool guy for 90% of the series but he's remembered and loved because of the tragedy of his character arc. Lazarus MC (I don't even remember his name desu) is Spike without the tragedy. Just a knock-off phony. Much like the show itself.

How does the great satan Demarco keep his job? Is he the only one at Adult Swim that wants to manage Toonami?

no response until 25 minutes in

suddenly 30 replies

How?

Pic related.

How?

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Be honest, Anon Babble.

You didn't take the FAST, RELIABLE and SAFE Hapna medication, did you?

wow anon its as if people respond to and engage in conversation once someone comments their opinions... how fucking wild!

Is not like you need a lot of people for this, 2 people are enough to make a thread the most active one on Anon Babble, did everyone already forget the Shingeki no Kiojin threads during the IP count era...

bro just wants to make space dandy season 3 but they keep punching him down

whole anime industry feeling slop undistinguishable from any other Netflix show

Huh? Which are those Netflix shows that feel indistinguishable from the Okinawa girl show, Medalist, Nige Jouzu no Wakagimi, Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete, Shikanoko etc. What the fuck are you talking about

West: hey can you make a cool anime for me? :)

Japan: sure, give me a lot of money

West: fine

Japan: and full creative control

West: fine

Japan: *gives back a piece of shit*

I'm not there yet, but I'm slowly turning on Japan

He's not trolling. The old guard is slowly becoming retarded. Makes me question what authors still stick to their guns.

>Japan: and full creative control

>West: fine

Lol.

>Japan: sure, give me a lot of money

>West: fine

Double lol. None of those had huge budgets.

Watching Carol and Tuesday, I feel like the general issue is just....Watanabe is old. Ontop of the current climate just being less ambitious and more sterile, Watanabe is also just less in touch with his old passions, less explorative, and in tune with the grittier more emotional shit he did 20 or 10 years ago.

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Read And the guy who worked on the John Wick movies is working on this. Is not cheap by any given margin.

Have you tried not watching garbage?

Cowboy Bebop was lightning in a bottle. Cartoon Network will never have the second coming of it no matter how much money they throw to the modern Japanese animation industry.

Is not so much about one specific director like Watanabe being progressive as much as

DON'T HIDE BEHIND YOUR FINGER YOU MENTAL KEKOLD AND JUST ADMIT IT

Is not cheap by any given margin.

Then give me a budget for the flcl shit or for the fena shit or for c danchi or for shenmue. Oh wait they all had very little budget if you actually checked it.

Cartoon Network

Oh wait , toonamifags are the ones making this garbage threads lol.

Funny how you jump over the fact that he is affected by the political virus because he is a retarded woke subhuman.

t. subhuman who is affected by the political virus

n-no you

Lol. YWNBAW.

He was clearly always a liberal guy fascinated by multiculturalism.

say what you want about Miyazaki but Boy and the Heron was definitely him sticking to his guns

Bebop was shit tho

And don't you see that this is the problem? As the west degenerated his obsession made him be influence by the current western world which is pure garbage. that's the main reason why his latest directed works, carol and tuesday, bladerunner, lazarus are all garbage. That's the number 1 reason, you retard.

Western production pays in dollars, which has way more value than the Japanese yen, just the conversion from currency alone would make their budget higher than the average anime season fully paid in yen, a currency in constant devaluation since years ago.

From there the LoTR movie alone cost 30 million dollars. While a Japanese-financed blockbuster like My Name was only 7.5 million. And for Lazarus they're bringing fucking veterans like Watanabe, Yoko Kanno and the guy who made the action in John Wick which is an expert on martial arts and action scenes. They're paying for all that + giving creative freedom and receiving a massive turd in exchange, is scummy no matter how you want to paint it.

it's funny how people seethe about the "westernization of anime" when the Netflix and AS slop is like 0.1% of what's being made and the rest is still made in Japan for Japanese audiences

From there the LoTR movie alone cost 30 million dollars

Isn't that for voice actors? Anyways I was talking about the budget for the ones I've mentioned.

They're paying for all that + giving creative freedom and receiving a massive turd in exchange, is scummy no matter how you want to paint it.

Well, that's completely their fault. Watanabe is a "westaboo" and the modern west is pretty unpleasant so they are getting the exact product that they are demanding. Fix the west and you will fix the westaboo anime as well.

was shit tho

...for the average basement dweller such as yourself. It made big numbers for CN.

thinking people care about childrenslop network

Naruto made big numbers there as well, you faggot.

You are a retard, I see. Carry on and kill yourself, faggot.

But it also contributed greatly to his original works. You can't just say "It bad because it went woke" when those elements were always there.

Are you illiterate? The problem is that the thing he was inspired by has changed and has degenerated.

It bad because it went woke

Not to that degree.

People will spam Lazarus until the end of this year

Nice cope.

Lazarus is not a massive turd if you use current day Westerner's perspective

Post about how Demarco keeps fuckig up

I'm not there yet, but I'm slowly turning on Japan

Hmm

I agree. It's tragically ironic that Lazarus feels like it was written like the cunts who adapted Cowboy Bebop for Netflix. It's just as bad and soulless.