SHE IS BACK. SHE IS BACK. CODE BLUE CODE BLUE
REZERO WEBNOVEL MEGA THREAD
Hey lets waste 3 extra arcs on this because Gluttony can't simply reverse the ability, or at least the brothers can't
J/k, they totally can, its super easy, either of them can do it and Roi did it because he needed to distract Emilia for about 5 seconds
Now Rem is totally fixed, Subaru did nothing, Spica did nothing
Literally what the fuck is even the point of any of that? She didn't stay gone for anything to happen, she was simply gone and then brought back entirely arbitrarily, off-screen, for no reason but to give Emilia a minor headache. Nothing at all was done with her being in any condition. Emilia didn't catch up, Subaru didn't need to do anything to help her, they apparently could have just done this back in arc 6 but never did and it literally is as simple as demand a Glutton fix it and they can barf it back no matter where they are.
Pic is just some weird ass shit but somehow captures my mood.
HUH? HUH???????
そう言って、ラムの隣に並んだのは、彼女と同じメイド服に身を包み、流麗な動きでしっとりとしたカーテシーをしてみせる、青い髪のメイド。
もちろん、知っている顔だ。しかし、ペトラが知っている範囲の彼女は、そのメイド服を着こなし、完璧な作法を行える状態になかったはず。――違う、それも違う。
改めて、改めて、改めて、認識が改められる。
違う。そう、違った。彼女にメイドとしての知識や作法が備わっていないだなんてとんでもない。だってこの世界で、彼女は誰より一番最初にちゃんとしたメイドとしての印象をナツキ・スバルに、まだ村娘だったペトラに、教えてくれた。
そのことを、ペトラ・レイテは引力によって思い出す。
Tappei is a hack writer
Its been obvious since arc 1. Now I don't even give a shit anymore. Rem having more screentime is enough kekw.
Petra is just back with the Emilia camp no random adventure for her
Rem just decided she's fixed now and we don't have to worry about anything anymore
Whelp, so much for that arc. Is the LN getting axed or something? Tappei just dropped a fuck ton of plot points and things it seemed like he was doing.
You better not be lying to me, anon.
Maybe Re:Zero was never good.
Almost like he got pressured by kadokawa to do that or something. Like he totally wasnt pressured into waking her up on nov 5th 2020 when season 2 was airing lmao. "I need to sell more books" the writer.
This girl made an innocent man suffer for no reason
He's not as the chapter more or less presents it, but it could just be a fake out. Rem doesn't really say much that is too identifying that she is back to normal, mostly just her calling Subaru, Subaru-kun again but that could just be her having taken the stick out of her ass so she's decided to address him by a name now.
Petra seems to have thoughts about Rem but that could actually be Petra-specific due to the ghost Subaru in her head.
If nothing else Tappei is being an assclown and acting like Rem is just totally back and she very well could be, glad we waited 10 years for all of the nothing that happened.
Also if nothing else the Emilia camp is just magically all wrangled up together so there's nothing for them having split up or any interesting things anyone was thinking or plotting or anything. Just everyone shows up because and now they're all together and we're just going to watch Emilia be boring as shit.
Not gonna bother reading the thread
If this is true this is bullshit for all the reasons that were explained in previous threads. Like an afterthought to the meandering slop that is arc 9.
I'm smarter than the author
The only cope is now
but it could just be a fake out. Rem doesn't really say much that is too identifying that she is back to normal, mostly just her calling Subaru, Subaru-kun again but that could just be her having taken the stick out of her ass so she's decided to address him by a name now.
Petra seems to have thoughts about Rem but that could actually be Petra-specific due to the ghost Subaru in her head.
The only cope after that is that Subaru dies and resets this entire scenario all the way back to the tower and that re-fucks Rem so Subaru just has to walk over to Roi and slap him and claim that counts as him fixing it but if that's done then the wind will already be taken out of everything because the audience will know the solution and it will be real fucking annoying if Tappei does that and then gibs Roi or something to stop him from doing it and we have to waste more time to make Spica do it.
Various Japanese posts I've seen have also taken note of how things are phrased and come to the same conclusion that it points to Rem being entirely fixed, but for the above cope it doesn't necessarily have to be. I'll laugh though because the people carrying water for the idea of Rem getting her name back were only defending it on the grounds that it wouldn't totally fix her but as of this chapter the thing that is most strongly pointed at being fixed is her own memories and so she's just 100% back.
The whole reason they lobotimized her in the first place was because was to prevent her from upstaging Emilia as the heroine too much.
Guess they feel like they've taken Emilia as far as they can go or aren't going to bother anymore.
I'm smarter than a lot of authors, most stories are dogshit. And yes, if Tappei decided he's just bored and wants to drop a bunch of plot points he set up then I am smarter than him.
The only cope after that is that Al thought Rem was a sussy baka and needed Roy to fix her so he could figure out how and now he's going to be able to pull some shit and stop whatever his issue with Rem is and then maybe if they manage to free and kill Subaru that Subaru can then exploit this fact knowing Al won't be able to see whatever Rem thing coming and uses that as a trump card.
But more than likely we're just done with that and all this sticks and Rem is just fine now because Emilia needed to be slightly distracted so Al could set up a bigger distraction.
Guess Spica can get killed in whatever situation now since she doesn't matter and has nothing to do.
I think Tappei is at some event while he released this. So this is literally just a retarded marketing stunt. Going to laugh if its 100% a fake out but I guess we'll have that confirmed next chapter because people will mention all their memories being back when talking to her and/or she'll mention all her memoires being back and there's pretty much no way to avoid that. Well, there's always Al POV switch or whatever to push it back, but no way to avoid it if he ever shows the Emilia camp and I don't think they're getting the Crusch treatment any time soon.
Funny that Petra was basically right. Roswaal could've used one of those one-sided nonsense contracts that break the setting on Spica and force her to fix everything.
Cute? Petra
Funny? Petra
I'm not going to be jerked around anymore. Tell me that again in a few months.
Rem got entirely fixed uncerimoniously offscreen four chapters ago
The reveal for this is just dumped as a footnote to another chapter to little significance or fanfare
No big reunions, no moment, just Rem showing up
Doesn't even release the chapter on a normal time so people will notice it at random instead of everyone expecting a chapter and seeing the reveal all at once
Man, Tappei is REALLY mad Rem is more popular than Emilia and making absolutely sure there can't be any more hype around her ever. That's so fucking petty its funny. Based retard.
Its funny because she might actually be fixed now but if Tappei goes the loop route she might be broken again in a few months and Tappei will put off fixing her for an entire extra arc.
Ghost Subaru is going to force Petra to rape Rem. He only didn't rape Carmilla because he noticed she was wrong.
I'm actually more disappointed that nothing interesting was done with Petra and now that's basically over. Rem waking up/getting fixed was never going to be good, Tappei wouldn't let it be and it's taken too long.
Not even one scene of Rem and Ram trying to figure things out at the mansion together
Wow. I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed.
Are sales of the LN finally going down to the point where he broke the glass?
Guess so. This is being done more or less live at an event too and has no real set up or relevance to the chapter or anything that's happened. Rem just shows up at the end of the chapter for pure basedface points with no reason why'd she'd be there really.
Tappei
smart
Lol. Fucker couldn’t get his travel times or distances straight all of the Vollachia saga, with the ‘official’ maps only making it worse.
Even bringing Rem’s name back as an afterthought would’ve been retarded. Bringing her name and memories back definitively proves that Tappei forgot all about her promise from arc 8, which doesn’t inspire any confidence in his forgetful ass not completely fumbling the rest of this arc.
emilia needs a real love rival, thats the reason lmao
WHAT
OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT
Emilia doesn't know shit and still doesn't. And with Subaru not around there isn't anyone to fight over.
They’ve been on a steady downward spiral since partway through arc 7
Man, Tappei is REALLY mad Rem is more popular than Emilia
proceeds to bring back the only Rem that anybody gives a fuck about, thus boosting her popularity
If that was his goal, he didn’t think this through at all. Just like with the Vollachia arc. Just like with this current arc. Just like what’ll probably happen with the remaining arcs of this series.
japanese writers cant write fantasy for shit. Imagine this political drama shit in game of thrones or LOTR or some other western fantasy, each character could've been doing their own thing and expanding the story more. But no, they're all back to watch miss protagonist get carried by subaru again
Don't worry, it'll make for a really "great" scene when Rem tells Subaru to tell her all about herself as she acts like a cunt and then reveals he doesn't need to because she's actually been totally fixed for no real reason while he was up Al's ass. Just a prank.
So that’s the only reason Tappei did this? To setup Emilia potentially chimping out at the capital next arc?
Thats my guess. I mean, does Rem have any other purpose at all other than look cute and make subaru's heart go doki doki?
If that was his goal, he didn’t think this through at all.
He did though. He has to drum up whatever sales he can, but he's tempering it with incompetent execution. So people can get tricked into reading that "Rem is back" but then its in the dumbest, most random, most unsatisfying way possible and then she'll do nothing but exist while he keeps trying to make Emilia better. That won't really work per se, but he'll do everything as shown to keep Rem from having any more potentially good or interesting moments so she never gets any more popular while still milking the people that liked her before.
Waterboarding Aldebaran now that’s she’s DETERMINED to get Subaru back maybe
Normally yes, or she did before. Now, probably not because Tappei wants to prevent her from doing anything interesting that would make her outshine Emilia ever again.
He did though
He didn’t. Even if Rem’s doing nothing people will either seethe or cum buckets whenever she’s mentioned or says anything because now it’s arc 3 Rem, the Rem that makes the fanbase go apeshit for different reasons every time she sneezes.
Imagine if tappei had the balls to make subaru's love for emilia nothing more than a curse from the witch or something that makes it invalid, and he does a total 180 and lets Rem win?
that'd sell a lot of books methinks
he had to write rem out of the story for 10 years and he's still couldn't make emilia more likable than her
atp he should just give up and make rem the main heroine
That only works because she did stuff before. If she does nothing all the time no hype or popularity will be generated besides the concept that she exists at all. Which is what drives all those figure sales. People will keep buying on the offchance she ever does anything good again while being forced to acknowledge she never does so slowly people will just sour. Any payoffs or moments with her are going to be undercut as shown, her revival should have been a big deal but instead it was nothing, done offscreen to no reaction by any character at all and no acknowledgement by any character in the most nonsensical, random way possible for an absurd reason that has literally nothing to do with her and involves nobody that cares about her or was even trying to fix her. I honestly cannot think of a worse way you could have possibly solved the problem after stalling and baiting it for nearly ten years. There's no moment to latch onto, no emotions to make art of, nothing. It's anti-hype, he could've just started any random chapter with "and now Rem is back, moving on" and it would be about the same.
As mentioned before even the time of chapter release kills any excitement because he pretty much just snuck the "big chapter" in when people aren't paying attention and it's a tiny footnote at the end.
All people will hear is "Rem is back" but that's also all anyone could actually say about it, it didn't happen for interesting reasons and she doesn't do anything either. It means nothing, just the bland statement that she exists again.
Just look at NuRem. It's pure cope to say she's unpopular because she's a different character. She's unpopular because she sucks. Rem won't do anything and suck and people won't even have the cope they had before so they'll just have to whine that Rem sucks now.
Emilia FINALLY realized that the feelings she held for Subaru was love just a few chapters ago
Old Rem comes back
Did Tappei really wait 10 years because he had to find ways to put Emilia's declaration of love on par with Rem's, but was so fixated on not developing her, that he held off on fixing Rem all this time?
did Tappei actually pull out the nuclear option?
She hasn't actually realized that. Emilia just has some new feeling related to the current situation that she's never felt before and doesn't know what it is.
Maybe. Probably.
Memories and name? So Rem was fixed off screen? Holy hackerino
Yep, so much for any of the copers saying it was just her name and therefore it was okay and not total bullshit.
Even if this gets undone so there can be a "better" fix later that isn't offscreen, is actually some intentional character moment, and actually involves Subaru, it's basically damage done. This is her full revival in the series. Undoing it then wasting more time is going to be annoying and it will lack impact because the fix was already done ages ago.
Prepare for the greatest campaign of Rem hate the likes you have never seen in the community.
Emiliafags are going to be going in to overdrive giga desperation mode.
Expect to see tons of discourse about arc 2 and the side stories that Rem was rapey in.
I fucking hate Tappei.
He shouldn't even have woken Rem up in arc 7, he didn't intend to do that, originally the arc wasn't going to be in Volachia and there wasn't going to be room for Rem in it. The whole reason for doing that was to make drama with Subaru and Louis and to give him grief while in Volachia. Louis probably wasn't originally going to be there either considering that there was no room for it in the original arc.
All it did was damage Rem's character by a LOT, I hate Tappei and I hate this piece of shit work.
I'll never forgive him or this series.
Anyway, here's the comment about Elsa. I found it.
Q: Did Elsa have that personality from birth? Or was it influence from the environment or a parent?
A: It was from birth. I think there are cases where people are warped by their environment or parents, but in Elsa's case, it was from birth. Even if she was born in a daughter of a rich household, lacking nothing, for sure she'd somewhere awaken to bowels, and turn into a bizarre murderer, I think.
Emiliafags are going to be going in to overdrive giga desperation mode.
All 3 of them?
Expect to see tons of discourse about arc 2 and the side stories that Rem was rapey in.
It only raises her gap moe.
Arc 7 and 8 were literally pointless now.
Imagine if tappei had the balls to make subaru's love for emilia nothing more than a curse from the witch or something
That what I thought it was for the longest time. SubaruxEmilia feels so forced and unnatural because it is. It's fake. And it makes the Rem deal even more tragic, because here's someone he falls for on his own, for real, his actual true love...but lol nah, "I love Emilia." At best his true love is playing second fiddle to his real one.
I'm not sure when I realized that wasn't the case and it was just that Tappei a bad writer and doesn't know how to make you like his elf waifu, but that's definitely the case by now.
I guess its really undeniable at this point that Tappei just uses Rem for nonsensical marketing stunts. She woke up for literally no reason and there's no reason at this point that would ever be addressed or explained. So basically she was asspulled awake, but broken, just to say "Rem is back". Then she does nothing and nothing presented there will matter because that character was just summarily erased off-screen several chapters ago. Which led to wild speculation that Rem will be fixed. So then this chapter just says she is, but nothing else. It was unceremonious, it was random as fuck, none of the characters even care really, but it lets mouthbreathers say "Rem is back (again)".
Then Tappei might and probably will undo this because that's what a hack does so he can put her back to sleep for however long and then pull her out for no reason later so he can have mouthbreathers say "Rem is back (again) (again)"
I honestly could not imagine a worse way to do this. Even the dumbest or most random thing I could think could still speculatively make sense and anything pushed past that point would reach a certain novelty or humorousness that might give it notoriety. But this is insane. It's the most obvious solution that shouldn't have been this hard or taken this long to do, that was specifically shot down as too fanciful to hope was even an option, but also removed of all character agency, character intention, meaning, even to the point of being done completely offscreen. Groovy could've farted and then 4 chapters later its revealed that broke all curses in a 1000-mile radius and fixed Rem and it would be better.
yep. they were pretty much all fujobait filler that forces you to buy and read side content volumes to understand what's going on.
Here's a bit more on her.
Q: From the time that Elsa first obtained happiness when she was a child, what sort of path did she take along the road to becoming a bowel hunter? Was it something harsh that happened before she knew happiness? If you do reply, I fear that the content might become a little grotesque, but... how was it?
A: She learned the warmth of bowels, began hunting bowels, overdid it and got caught, was sold as a slave, had her body changed by the evil shaman she was sold to, gained her current body as a result, accepted it with the fairly optimistic "This body is very handy for my goals", and as she was happily hunting bowels after that, ended up under Mama's gaze; sort of like that.
Q: Thanks for your hard work! I suppose I should ask a question. What does Elsa like best after bowels? Please continue to hang in there! I'm cheering for you :)
A: It's Meili.
Q: Please tell me the difference in her feelings towards Subaru in Ayamatsu and the normal story!
A: Ayamatsu route: "It seems like he'd have nice bowels, but I can't see them." The main story route: "It seems like he'd have nice bowels, so I'll open him up." (Subaru dies!
Q: What does she do with bowels after she takes them?
A: She looks at them until she's satisfied, touches them, and once she's enjoyed them she leaves them like that and goes on her way.
Every time I hear someone new about this series I become more grateful that I decided against reading it.
Sorry Tappei keeps letting you down, LNfags.
They killed Priscilla... but that only really matters if arc 9 matters which its looking like maybe it doesn't.
EMILAFAGS BTFO EMILAFAGS BTFO!
THE HEROINE IS BACK!!!
Spaniard! Cut off your balls right now!
Wish she wouldn't have died so early, she was great in the pride story.
Still a way better heroine than Emilia.
You're not any better than an Emiliafag if all you cared about is just Rem existing and not how it would happen. Not giving a shit about context or the story is pure Emiliafag bullshit.
I don't think anyone will care. It's been too long and arc 7 and 8 did too much damage.
That's a lot of cope
This. I FUCKING HATE TAPPEI AND I FUCKING HATE THIS SHIT SERIES AND I HATE THIS FANDOM!
And you know what? It's completely justified, I wish I had never followed this garbage.
I don't think even Tappei is a big enough troll to make this a fake out. The "hype" is that Rem is back now so even if he could pour ice water on everyone by saying she just trained to be a little more like herself and Petra only remembers now because Subaru does I don't think he will or can.
So this is it, the amazing revival of Rem done accidentally, offscreen, a bunch of chapters ago, so Emilia could be distracted a little and she didn't even acknowledge it.
If this ever gets a season 5 they need to cut 80% of arc 7.
Four episodes of Rem waking up -> Guaral
Two episode of Chaosflame to establish Shotabaru.
Skip gladiator island and go right to the capital to get in to arc 8 content.
As great as gladiator island was it was filler.
Just forget Subaru's army and have him join up with Abel instead.
Most likely, but it is quite funny that Tappei making her irrelevant to the story made her a larger part of it in the fan perspective.
There is something going on with it, but regardless the way the story will go is that Subaru loves Emilia legitimately in spite of initial witch fuckery or some other such trite message. One of Subaru's things is trying to take lies or fake stuff and make it meaningfully real. So at some point he probably gets told he only loved Emilia because Satella made him or his dick was confusing Emilia for Satella and he'll shoot back that he'll just love Emilia now for real and that will be that.
do you have the source for picrel?
Just forget Subaru's army and have him join up with Abel instead.
No.
*to his fake one
I guess that's possible too.
Is this supposed to be a tsugihagu version of Rem? Do I even want to know what kind of bizarre fanfic spawned this?
Yeah, and that's another reason why I can't enjoy any of Volachia's characters.
How the hell can I enjoy them when my favorite character is being done dirty like this?
Coldest take on the planet: Emiliafags are insecure and can only seethe in comment sections cause no one else gives a shit about them
There's no fanfic about it, just the art.
wow.
I say that as someone who thinks thats the best part of arc 7. It really is pointless though and so is Subaru's army. Just skip right to Vincent and Chisha. Save all the shonenslop fights for the arc 8 half of the season.
and we're just going to watch Emilia be boring as shit.
You mean dumb as shit.
He shouldn't even have woken Rem up in arc 7, he didn't intend to do that
I think he did. But then he wanted to fuck around so he couldn't have Rem actually be back so instead of waking up fixed because Ram had forced Rai to puke up Rem and fix her (which would make sense) he somehow didn't do that (despite puking up everyone else we don't know about and that apparently being what works) and Rem was broken instead so Subaru could waste tons of time on her. Now that we're being to his original planning Rem just needs to be fixed because this initial idea would've had her up and about and normal so he just made the other goblin do it at a random time for a random reason even though none of that lines up or makes any sense at all.
Subaru's army was kino though. The problem is that the whole Guaral -> Chaosflame took too long same with the conclusion of Arc 8.
I would unironically have preferred it if he had just killed her at once rather than doing what he's been doing to her.
Now that we're being to
Now that we're back to being on*
Julius and Joshua aren't fixed though.
Subaru's army was kino though.
I agree but it was redundant.
This is bad for Rem. I am worried and concerned.
so is arc 9 really on the road to being shit again or is this an overreaction
if he had just killed her
Fuck off you faggot
The entire series is pointless. This story is a series of obstacles for Subaru to overcome with no obvious end-goal.
It's already shit. It was already shitty except for a few good moments and Yae being super hot.
Don't even bother. Just go "anime original" and skip 7/8 entirely. Rem wakes up fixed due to Ram's fight with Rai, Subaru either doesn't get teleported or gets teleported somewhere closer, hell maybe just do the IF version of the arc that starts in the capital and ends arc 7 at basically the same place.
You might not even have to do that, just kill Priscilla some other way.
End goal is Tappei getting people to like Emilia
NO, YOU FUCK OFF!
There really is nothing to lose from skipping arc 7 and 8. As a reader at least. Unless you're a fujo or Cecifag.
It really is. The promise of Al got really stale, really fast with the Al cycle killing anything interesting. Its just been a ton of dumb fights where nobody dies (except Al I guess).
Petra has the most consequentially crazy thing to ever happen in the series and that seems like its just been pretty immediately nosold now that we've gotten all of 2 chapters with her.
And on top of that we just randomly undid one of the most impactful things in the series just because to absolutely no fanfare.
It's shit.
Everything about Rem is an overreaction in these threads, remember unpackgate?
I know it's good to have goals, but they need to at least be realistic or attainable.
Unpackgate was people being willfully or maliciously stupid.
This is objectively dogshit.
inbefore it gets all explained in sidestories
Rem is back. Emilia has lost. Reddit is burning.
youtube.com
Unpackgate was people being willfully or maliciously stupid.
Just like people saying "Rem's dead", "Rem was written out" or "Rem should've been killed altogether".
It shows that the bad guys don't give a shit about anything but gaining the slightest of the upper hand when cornered.
I honestly expect this all to get reset and then for their to be a "real" one later, making this is a dumb, pointless gimmick that entirely cheapens the idea of Rem coming back forever. By the time some onscreen reunion between Rem and Ram happens we will straight up skipped two other theoretically just as emotional reunions just because Tappei really only gets one actual shot at this for the audience so it inexplicably will only be shown the third fucking time its happened because he knows he could write essentially the same scene three times and it retain any emotional weight. That's nuts. Tappei is a hack.
How the fuck am I supposed to take this work seriously or continue reading this absolute load of shit? And no, I don't dislike Rem, Rem is my favorite character.
It already happened with the sisters reuniting in Vollachia and Subaru complaining he missed it.
Unless your name is Rai and the thing you most desire in the world is one puke away yet you puke up every single other name except that one for no reason and your brother will have to do it later instead even though you don't share names/memories between the two of you.
Or you're Regulus.
Or you're Pandora.
Or Elsa.
Or most of the villains really that still behave autistically to their deaths
This is bad for Petra.
That's number one. Rem and Ram being fully restored at complete random while they were doing god knows what at the mansion would be number two. Then if it gets undone and then done again but the audience sees it this time that will be the third super emotional reunion between the two of them factually but the first one the audience was shown because Tappei is such a hack he played the same card three times but couldn't come up with a way to make it interesting each time so he's only ever going to show the last time. That's absolutely retarded and utterly cheapens the whole thing.
She's a mary sue, they'd have to change her whole personality around and it's kind of late to do that at this point in the series.
Too friendly to be a kuudere, but too boring, passive, and unpassionate to be anything else. The Yamato Nadeshiko never works in anime.
Rem's popular because he did the opposite with her, we see her start off cold, then cruel, then friendly, then angry, then heroic.
Even if he decides that Emilia and the witch are literally the same person and she's a yandere I don't think it could be enough to make her compelling, she's just spent too much time doing nothing at this point.
Guess I'm going to dump this garbage like I should have done a long time ago (and had already done for the most part), I just can't take it anymore.
I should never have trusted this hack author who clearly just wants to milk the fans.
What's the point of Spica again?
The point is that Tappei likes lolis and he liked her.
It's probably just done. Since Al isn't killing anyone there's no reason for a reset and all this garbage with Emilia is being done because Subaru got kidnapped and Tappei probably wants this to stick to push anything at all along with her. So no reset, Rem woke up offscreen and literally everyone missed it. Maybe one year he'll release Ram's reaction on their birthday or something and pretend like that makes it okay and is satisfying.
It sounds like sidestory material really. I wouldn't be surprised if there was YET ANOTHER Rem sidestory with the upcoming volume.
Emilia is too dumb and got dumber with every new arc.
Serve to drive a wedge between Subaru and Reinhard at this point, although I don't really know why Subaru would care because he hated her and was only really tolerating her for a Rem who just got vaporized offscreen and now probably doesn't even know what the fuck a Spica is.
Roy just vomited Rem's name
The reaction of the Emilia camp to that information happened offscreen
I'm going to have a fucking aneurysm, anons
I don't think I can make it until the end of the series
rape tappei
Redemption, even witches can change.
This will lead to echidna changing as well but will not lead to capella being forgiven but serve as a opposite of it.
Why not take the Mushoku Tensei route and have Subaru marry both Emilia and Rem? That solves everything.
he'd have to give Emilia positive traits and Tappei seems allergic to that
She's a mary sue, they'd have to change her whole personality around and it's kind of late to do that at this point in the series.
Mary Sue isn't really a personality thing or personality problem,. Mary Sue is a world building problem.
The world doesn't respond to her the way it would respond to any other character who did the same thing. She's boring and frustrating because she can't have the same believable drama as anyone else because she can't face the same challenges or setbacks anyone else would. If someone else is selfish, they often get punished or challenged, if Emilia is selfish, it's excused nonsensically by the narrative. Anyone else fights something and they risk dying, Emilia fights the same thing and not a hair on her head will be harmed. A novel development recently is that at least there's an excuse with Al as not only is he not trying to kill anyone he specifically doesn't want to touch or hurt Emilia at all. But even against dragons or other shit outright trying to kill her Emilia won't take so much as even a scratch. Priscilla is literally cheating and has objects absorb damage in her place and she somehow took more damage than Emilia when fighting Madelyn.
redemption
Or Remdeption?
Funny because he said the exact opposite in his Q&A, the piece of shit just changed his mind because he liked the loli and wanted to use her to make his shit drama.
It doesn't, but also I think that's the plan anyway. At the very least that is Subaru's stated goal and intention and that hasn't changed since arc 3.
If anything Rem is more of a Mary Sue than Emilia and even then it still isn't true.
Petra is officially an Emiliafag.
It's over.
No uhhhh.. you see, she's a different person because uhhhh... what even happened to her to make her like that again?
Now the question is, how much does Rem know/remember of her sleep+amnesia time?
Be Rem
Gets nothing handed to her
Entire life is a tragedy
Gets called a Mary Sue
No, Rem is the opposite of a Mary Sue. See the above description. She is only currently slightly leaning in that direction as of her treatment in arc 7/8 because Tappei started treating her with the same shit kid's gloves he uses for Emilia. And even then Rem still fit within the world and was actually incredulous that people were trying to shield her from it.
Rem doesn't really have anything to do in the big final battle of arc 8 and so, shockingly, she doesn't do much of anything and stays behind. Meanwhile Emilia with no plan or intention at all gets distracted and walks off, runs into the final boss she doesn't even know is the final boss and starts a fight that the narration says is the most important and key thing to ever happen in the whole battle even though Emilia has no idea she's doing that. So Emilia is literally the most important person according to the story on complete accident.
That's Sue behavior, the world is broken around them but behaves logically around everyone else, so the Sue stands out and it hurts the brain of people who pay attention.
So is there no way to heal amputated limbs in this setting? That seems odd, considering how many OP blessings and magic there are.
We're in full asspull mode so the answer is it doesn't matter. She's just going to know everything that's going on with the current situation because Ram told her offscreen or something. She'll also have a new flail even though the specifically didn't have any without her existing because she just bought one offscreen.
Tappei said that archbishops were like that by nature and would always be like that.
The hack just changed his mind because he liked the loli and wanted to use her to make drama as an asspull in Volachia which was an arc that wasn't originally planned to take place in Volachia and had no room for Louis.
This thread is gonna hit 600 before the day ends kekw. We are so back.
I'm glad nuRem is finally gone but it feels really hollow by this point
Yes and no. Crusch's arm was entirely cut off. If you have the limb you can put it back on and heal it back in place. Elsa can entirely regenerate her entire body as can other corpse dolls. Capella can regenerate/transform her body back in shape and by the same token could restore anyone's missing limbs by giving them a fixed body.
But if you mean normal magical healing regenerating a missing limb then no.
The other limitation is that even among things healing magic can heal, if a person has the injury for too long the body updates so to speak and decides its supposed to have a cool scar or something and will resist healing magic because the body no longer considers itself to even be injured.
There likely is but it might not be that simple. Probably Felix knows but since he's a faggot may as well nobody know.
Felix literally healed an amputated limb. But he needs the actual limb to do it, he can't make a new one from scratch.
So if they found Ram's horn, they could reattach it and she would be restored to being Oni Jesus?
Ram and Rem are wearing maid outfits again
YES
No. They "have" Ram's horn, shards of it are in her wand(s). Roswaal pick it up, took it to a shop, and secretly turned it into an unknown number of Harry Potter wands with the fragments as a core that she can use to steal Rem's horn temporarily and reactivate Oni God mode.
what is the trauma she suffered and the most important thing, the memory loss
They are too far gone by now but they could have been saved earlier if they were given love.
Where the fuck is Roswaal
Jacking off to Teacherdona lewds hidden in the gospel.
Making Clind jealous by being near Freddie.
Rom reunited with everyone
It's over, Aldebaran lost.
Will Alcanica have an aneurysm if he sees the twins reunited?
Rem started off basically as a bad guy who didn't like subaru, didn't care about saving kids and even killed Subaru a couple times, but after subaru saves her she changes and gets redeemed.
Emilia in comparison never gets put in morally ambiguous situations, she is always the selfless good person who just wants to save everyone. Her hands are always clean, when she fights or kills someone (which is rare) they are super duper evil and she is objectively correct. When people hate her it is because they are ignorant rather than having legitimate moral conflicts with her.
She's kind of like a weaker version Reinhard who is written to be the generic "hero" but even Reinhard occasionally makes tough choices that are debatable like killing his mother.
Compare the way Emilia fights where she is righteous, giving lectures, and will only kill her opponent out of necessity vs Rem's fights against the beasts or cultists were she is full of anger and hatred for her opponents.
For example if Emilia had to actually kill greed's wives to save everyone else that would have actually been good development for her and interesting to see how she dealt with it but the author will never allow something like that because he does not want her to be tainted and imperfect.
Rem can't even do anything relevant. If she was going to she would've shown up as some sort of plan by Roswaal or something and be snuck in reserve when they need something to happen. But now she's just here along with everyone else from the start and just adds to the pile of people saying they want to save Subaru (fuck Betty I guess)
(fuck Betty I guess)
Who?
Betty functions as Subaru's magic kidneys, she is included by default
didn't care about saving kids and even killed Subaru a couple times, but after subaru saves her she changes and gets redeemed
This entire section is wrong.
She always cares about kids, that's why she's hesitant to run into some trap laid by a potentially child murdering witch fucker. It is specifically using her concern for the kids that Subaru is able to force her to go along with him.
She has only ever killed Subaru once.
Subaru "saving" her is not what causes her change of heart, it is Subaru coming back alive and giving an alternate ending to her "mistake" that frees her along with what he has to say about her and assuring her she can be Rem.
Emilia was ranting about Subaru and Betty.
Rem is just a racist.
Clind has teleported three times already and seemingly is planning to AT LEAST teleport one more time.
What the fuck did Petra offer as payment?
I like how there's all this other shit in the chapter but a handful of sentences of Rem maybe being completely fixed is all anyone will talk about.
Mouth, pussy and anus. Next is the 4th hole.
Rem FUCKING won
The way the chapter ends is basically reintroducing Rem and it's the big stinger/climax. No way its a fake out, she's just completely back now. Tappei is a hack.
Will you chill the fuck out? The plot can finally move forward now.
She really didn't. Subaru didn't save her. Her hero never came for her. He's shoved up a man's asshole while Emilia tard raging about saving Subaru accidentally solved all her problems when a bad guy needed her to chill for a sec. And Emilia didn't even care it happened. The audience doesn't get to see the moment she got to reunite with her sister either so all the narrative or emotional weight of this is reduced to a wet fart. She could have shown up in literally any other chapter at any other time and just declared she was fixed and it wouldn't change a thing or be any worse. If she does anything neat after this, cool, I guess, but her return was so pathetically botched from every angle its insane. She's going to have to demand Roi eat her again just to give Subaru a mulligan.
I also don't expect her to do anything cool because Tappei has been writing Rem like Emilia, which is to say dogshit, since shortly after she woke up and I have no reason to assume he'll start writing her well again just because she's technically a more official Rem this time.
And in the end Rem didn't get to do anything with her new outfit, she ended up being returned to her maid outfit without doing anything. And now she's just a mid-ranked character with a relatively low level of strength in the camp who doesn't have much opportunity to do anything.
All opportunities for her to do anything were wasted and she was made dirty and now it's unlikely that she'll ever get another chance like that.
I fucking hate Tappei
Subaru didn't save her.
If it weren't for Subaru she'd have never woke up.
What plot? Its not any closer to going anywhere than it was when she was asleep. Her being fixed means literally nothing to the crew trying to get Subaru and it could be done without her. In fact she's already been unhelpful by allowing Al to escape, her being like this is Al's plan and intentional by him. If by "move forward" you mean a ton of developments and set up that's years in the making just got instantly erased or made irrelevant, then sure, I guess you could consider that "plot moving forward".
Naruto
Oh, you're retarded, I see
The Subaru Retrieval Team sucks ass
Where are Roswaal and Julius? Where the actual fuck is Felix?
They have a literal teleporter on the team, so where the fuck are Cecilus and Vincent?
And in the end Rem didn't get to do anything with her new outfit
She did, she was a plot device.
Rem is finally back and doing stuff but this bad!
My fellow Remfags are retarded
Emiliafags are in full COPE mode
Yes she would. If she was asleep Roi would still puke her up to give Emilia headache and she would wake up fixed. Nothing Subaru did woke her up in the first place, there is literally no explanation for why she did, Tappei just decided she needed to be NuRem for drama and now NuRem is dead. She could've slept through all of arc 7/8 and nothing would be different for her.
Rem didn't do anything
She literally befriended Katya, tho?
stop the focus on the archbishops
series goes to shit
APOLOGIZE
Yep I'm seeing a lot of "Well Subaru doesn't even love Rem he was just depressed!" all over the usual places.
Why'd the hell would Vincent of all people be involved?
She is literally not doing stuff. She walked up and said "Subaru-kun" and that's it. Now she's part of a team where she's the weakest and least relevant member.
Roswaal should still be in the south, no idea why they didn't call for him or go get him. Julius is already ahead of them technically because he's in Kararagi where Al is going. Felix is useless and hopefully in a bag in a river with a bunch of bricks.
NuRem is dead, Katya is out of the story and will never be mentioned again. You could cut the character completely and nothing will change.
Roy
She is literally not doing stuff. She walked up and said "Subaru-kun"
That's more than she's done in the past 8 or 9 years.
She always cares about kids, that's why she's hesitant to run into some trap laid by a potentially child murdering witch fucker. It is specifically using her concern for the kids that Subaru is able to force her to go along with him.
She initially wanted to return and defend the mansion instead, Subaru had to give her a speech to guilt her into prioritizing the kids, if she was on her own she would not have went to save them. Like Ram she was someone who mainly only cared about her sister and her duty to Rosewall.
She has only ever killed Subaru once.
She finishes him off once in the mansion at night while he is already dying of the curse, then again in the main confrontation between them unless you're crediting Ram with that one but he was bleeding out already by then so i'd at least consider it an assisted kill.
The world is fucking ending, why wouldn't he be involved???
Roi is literally just Al's plotnugget now. He can't eat anyone, Tappei is just slapping him to undo years of time wasting with no payoff. He's not even allowed to fight.
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So am I supposed to just be happy after all this shitstorm? After all this waste and how Rem was made so dirty?
No, I don't think I'll be happy after that. I don't think I'll ever forgive what Tappei did.
he saw Rem because he missed her
She is literally not doing stuff. She walked up and said "Subaru-kun"
You have no idea how much I wanted her to say that in Vollachia, anon.
"He only wants Emilia, he only had feelings for Rem one time because he was guilty and depressed"
He made me learn fully how making a character dirty and making character assassination can sometimes be worse than killing them off.
he doesn't know
and her duty to Rosewall
Which is to be the lord of the village. She wanted to go save the kids but if its a trap to lure out the guards so they can be ambushed and everyone will die then they can't. And she can't trust Subaru who is trying to lure her out there and making weird conditions like she has to go alone. Everything about it is suspicious and like he's going to take her out to the woods and murder her and then murder everyone else, and yet she still does it because she wants to save the kids. Subaru doesn't convince her to save the kids he convinces her to go along with his clearly stupid as fuck trap using the kids as bait. Then surprising everyone it wasn't a trap.
then again in the main confrontation
Holy speedwatcher retard.
unless you're crediting Ram with that one
unless you're crediting the person who did it with it
You can't even keep your own logic consistent.
by then so i'd at least consider it an assisted kill.
She finishes him off once in the mansion at night while he is already dying of the curse
So by your logic Rem gets a kill when Ram kills him and in your initial claim Ram does not get credit for this at all and you're even incredulous why someone would even think that the person who actually does it gets the kill. Yet Rem also gets a kill when she merely finishes off a dying Subaru who is curse to death by a monster and the monster does not get credit for the kill even though your position said Rem gets the solo kill for putting Subaru in a life threatening state.
If someone getting the last hit is the metric then Rem has one.
If someone setting up someone to die gets the credit regardless of any later "mercy kill" which doesn't count then Rem still has one.
Jesus you people are fucking dumb. Why do you care so much to be wrong? She still killed him once, why do you have to lie and twist yourselves into knots so you can make the objectively false claim that she killed him repeatedly?
No it isn't. Even counting just actual Rem she had Stand Up.
Rem was BETRAYED and SEALED for 5 Arcs and Emilia still doesn't know if he loves Subaru or not kek
There are living breathing human beings that have read all the way to arc 9 chapter 34 and think Emilia is the best written character.
he
Chapter 35 when?
A-anon, you can't post the same image twice, that's, like, illegal and stuff, you are going to j/a/il now...
Is Al defeated yet?
she had Stand Up.
Yeah 8 years ago like I said.
Yeah? And is it cool for you that she said it to Emilia when Subaru isn't here after she got fixed without Subaru helping in any way because Emilia pressured Al who needed to use a psychic smokebomb so he could distract Emilia with something better?
What's the context for the line? What makes it good? Are you such a keyjangling retard that you don't care about narrative or plot or theme or context? Why do you even care in the first place if you don't give a fuck about those things? If in the middle of arc 4 Rem just woke up for one of the loops with no explanation would you have been satisfied just because Rem is now awake and you don't give a shit?
Rem is currently entirely fixed, years and years of a massive problem, a whole arc dedicated to trying to fix this that utterly, utterly failed and now she's fixed because a bad guy needed a distraction for his distraction. She's not even the full distraction, her revival was literally not even worth that. Mind fucking Emilia with Rem was such a minor thing it wasn't even the main show and Emilia didn't even acknowledge it happened.
One of the most positive silver linings to what was going on possible just happened and Emilia didn't even spend a single thought on it, she just stayed being mad at Al.
She had some scenes in Arc 7 and 8.
"Man gets increasingly angry because shit writer wrote something shit"
I'm just happy she's back.
Rem's name and memories have the narrative weight of a flashbang
Kek
What's the context for the line?
It would unironically be fine if its a bait and this is NuRem but she's decided to be 10% less bitchy and actually address Subaru by a name for once. It would pay off some level of character development with her. But it seems to imply and everyone probably rightly guesses that it just means regular Rem is back and she just fucking murdered the fuck out of NuRem by being yeeted back into her own head suddenly.
Japs are freaking out on twitter and mentioning rem every minute 4 hours after the chapter dropped.
Why? If you think the shit writer is going to write shit why do you care if she's back where she's going to be written like shit until you can't stand her? You're acting excited Rem is back now, but Rem was already back in NuRem form, if any Rem is fine to you and writing quality doesn't matter then how is this different in any way from her coming back as a shit version of herself years ago?
Give up, it's over.
A shitty flashbang too. Most of the time when the bad guys throw a flashbang they immediately escape. They don't need to throw a flashbang in order to set up their real distraction that will let them escape.
Rem is brought back because of Emilia
Big oof
Give up what? Give up that I would prefer better writing and not shit but I already said it's going to be the shit one? No thanks, I'll stick to wanting better writing even if you're some kind of pond scum sucking shit straight out of Tappei's asshole.
Just search 塩レム . Copy this exact phrase, paste it onto twitter search bar, delete the 塩 and go to the Latest tab.
Japanese spacing is weird so directly searchingレム wont yield any results.
This is the author that removed her for 11 years. I really don't give a shit how she's back what happens next is more important to me.
all this damage control
Yeah, I'm thinking kino is back on the menu.
Give up trying to delude yourself, anon
Tappei fucked up, Rem is back, Ram's reaction to this information happened offscreen, things won't change next chapter or next Arc, it's over
Again, why? Why would you think anything good will happen or that she'd be written well if you've decided the author is shit?
Oh boy, my favorite character written by a hack author that writes nothing but dogshit and has for years, I can't wait to watch her character be irrelevant and butchered constantly at the same time! This is everything I've ever been waiting for, shit Rem content!
Again, why were you not head over heels for NuRem all this time if you literally don't care how she was revived or the writing at all or what she does? That was Rem.
>Oh boy, my favorite character written by a hack author that writes nothing but dogshit and has for years, I can't wait to watch her character be irrelevant and butchered constantly at the same time! This is everything I've ever been waiting for, shit Rem content!
Yes. Something is better than nothing.
Give up trying to delude yourself, anon
Again, delude myself about what you dumb fuck?
Tappei fucked up
I said that
Rem is back
I said that too
Ram's reaction to this information happened offscreen
I said that too
things won't change next chapter or next Arc
I said that too
What the fuck fucking thing do you think I don't understand about what the fuck happened you retarded, shit-eating fucktard?
So you've been happy as a clam with all the NuRem up to this point? Why are you pretending like Rem is "back" now when she's been back for years?
inb4 this is just the "result" part and tappei is gonna write about the "process" in the next chapters
I actually liked NuRem and now I'm sad.
I don't see why he would, it doesn't look like anything. It's not like there's a magical process or anything cool to Roi barfing, it was just instant. Nobody else would have any reaction if Emilia didn't standing right there as it happened.
So you've been happy as a clam with all the NuRem up to this point?
Yep
Why are you pretending like Rem is "back" now when she's been back for years?
Because she's back
this is what most people are banking on I think
I'm definitely dropping this shit forever now.
I want to forget that I ever knew this shitty series.
I wish I could just rip this garbage out of my head forever.
She was already back. She never left after she already came back 5 years ago.
Already 7 pages of comments on Narou.
Rem is too fucking strong.
It will be a side story, but yeah
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We need 2 threads today kekw
I actually still expect this to all get reset and then the actual process of fixing Rem to require Spica and a lot more tedious bullshit given that we know how easy it is to fix her. For the story there will probably be a lot of crap about who NuRem is/was and more of the fusion thing Subaru and [Subaru} did as opposed to this which is likely more like a forced overwriting because of how Roi did it. So Rem is back temporarily like some kind of dumb guest character in a JRPG because the author needs to farm hype when Rem otherwise would have literally no reason being here at all or doing anything. I wonder if she's just going to end up like Siesta and follow everyone around even though she has no business too and the author will have to make up random bitchwork for her to do like he constantly does for Emilia.
Nobody else would have any reaction if Emilia didn't standing right there as it happened.
Nah, Petra felt it and she was in Mirula
inbefore that guy using machine translator badmouthing Tappei is back at it
That would be too retarded even for Tappei
end up like Siesta
Who?
Wordy cope is still cope.
I feel that Tappei is just trying to milk us at the same time as making Rem dirty.
In the end, he gave us nothing. He just dragged us like hell.
Will this affect the Rem figurine market?
Yes. I heard they are already melting down Emilia figures because they need the plastic for Rem.
An actual reaction anon, not the dumb headache and then nobody thinks about what caused the headache. Emilia went two chapters during the fight and in the aftermath and not one thought went to what just happened and how actually good that might be. Since Emilia is the "nice" character you would think she would care this person just got saved at complete random and on accident but saved is saved and Subaru and others would care deeply about this. That she doesn't means this is a plothole on her character, she's actually a cunt, or people don't even really recognize what happened. Which means nobody else except maybe Ram herself who is near Rem would have any reaction at all to it. Everyone else will eventually just see Rem and go "Oh, I can actually remember things about you, weird"
I don't know, I honestly hope the sales stop, not because I have anything against Rem (she's my favorite character ever) but because I don't want Tappei to get any more profit from her, not after everything he's done.
nuRem was not Rem. Losing your memories makes you a different person. Your memories and lived experiences shape who you are as a person, your personality, your preferences, your values, your morality, everything. Losing your memories is to lose the link to your past self. nuRem is a skinwalking bitch and deserved to be deleted from existence to make room for the real Rem. FACT.
She'll be getting figures in her "Pleiades Attire".
Subaru and Beatrice are still sealed, Aldebaran just escaped and Otto is trying to follow the same guy that won against Garfiel, Ezzo and Reinhard.
She had a million things to wonder about besides that 5 second headache.
Dumb whore maid in Zero no Tsukaima. She has no powers whatsoever so the writer had to have some pretty nonsense situations to justify why she follows people around anyway and isn't just dead weight. In the last season, which admittedly I guess isn't really written by the original author since he died, she is standing around in a group of mages telling them how to use their own singular magical powers. Like some sleep mage who can only cast sleep won't cast sleep on the monsters until the maid tells him he should probably do that so they don't die.
She still loved Subaru.
So who is going ram their fist through Rem's cheat and rip out her heart and kill her just be her lips touch Subaru's?
Most predictable is Al
Could be Roswaal
Funniest and most kino would be Emilia.
Cappy will save this arc.
Damn I didn't think of her. That's who is gonna get rid of Rem this time.
Sorry Rem you're going be turned in to a coffee table now.
Roswaal can't harm Rem.
And everyone else is equally busy. If it doesn't force you to remember Rem nobody is going to suddenly start thinking about a person they haven't been able to think about for more than a year just because its now physically possible. So there's no reactions to look at and nobody will react because again if Emilia didn't when it happened, nobody else would either. It would be exactly like Emilia, they'd have a headache for a few seconds, shake it off and move on with anything else they were doing.
Jesus you people are fucking dumb. Why do you care so much to be wrong? She still killed him once, why do you have to lie and twist yourselves into knots so you can make the objectively false claim that she killed him repeatedly?
I have no idea what point you're trying to argue here or why this matters, I assume you have some kind of deeper point that resulted in the autistic argument over what qualifies as "killing" him. Are you denying that she was initially presented as a villain or that she did cruel things that Emilia would never do?
She had intent to kill both times, from Subaru's perspective she was responsible for both.
Does it make you feel better if instead of "killed" I say she "attacked him twice both of which ended in his death within a minute"?
You win and I will be sure to give more lengthy detailed descriptions in the future.
My point was that she was not initially presented as a "good" person and I don't know see how this argument changes that, Subaru was terrified of her for a reason after these events.
We've seen him penetrate Oni's with his fist before so I can't rule him out.
He can do it at the cost of having her soul purged or whatever
Only to end up doing nothing in that outfit and being made dirty.
Tappei doesn't deserve to receive any more sales from her after what he's done.
After all the baiting at the end of arc 6 and through arc 7 and 8, he's just milking her and her fans (me) at the same time as making her dirty. I can't forgive such a thing. I want him to go to hell.
Not how it works. There is a reason people are composed of parts that include name and memories. The series discussed at length how this functions. If memories are the thing that makes you and changes to your memories mean you're different then continuity itself is an illusion and you are a new person every attosecond unrelated to the person from an attosecond before.
This is like a basic bitch philosophical question, are you the same person when you wake up as when you went to sleep? By your logic I guess the answer is no.
Yes he can. He just bursts into flames once he does it.
Why a coffee table of all things?
I wouldn't have blamed him if he had just left her in a coma, I would have accepted his decision of what to do with his work if he had just killed her even if she is my favorite character. But what he has been doing is just unforgivable.
Why would he kill himself? He doesn't have the book anymore.
Although it seems hard to happen, I hope that almost no one will follow any of his work in the future, that he will become bankrupt and regretful and go back to being a butcher for what he did.
This mf didn't watch S2
>>>>>>>>>watch
kill yourself and read the wn, in that order.
stfu about baiting retard
Stop being pissy. You're still going to read it and you're still going want to know what happens now.
from Subaru's perspective she was responsible for both.
Amazing, it took you this long to come back just to want to be wrong again. Subaru has totaled who killed him. Each twin has one.
I say she "attacked him twice both of which ended in his death within a minute"?
No because that's wrong too, he survives for quite awhile after she starts attacking him the second time. God you are so fucking desperate to lie and I don't even fucking get it. What is so hard and damaging to your soul to just give an accurate telling of events?
and I don't know see how this argument changes that
The "argument" is about you lying, moron. If you only said factual things I wouldn't have any comment, but you don't so you get called out for them. If your untruths are the foundation of your random subjective crap then your "argument" can be destroyed by attacking things you said to support it that are lies.
Subaru was terrified of her for a reason after these events
Again wrong. He doesn't know about the first time, he is not scared of her, so "events" is not plural. The second time he is and then he is entirely over it by the end of that loop where he recognizes who they are and what they mean to him and kills himself to save them. There's a whole ass side story about how not afraid of Rem he is immediately following this arc. Your narrative isn't flying buddy, you have to try harder.
Rem is just a side character stop talking about her
Because that's what he said he would do under a certain circumstance. I'm not agreeing with the guy who suggested Roswaal would do it, because Roswaal wouldn't do it, but not because he can't. In order to make sure Subaru sticks to his guns Roswaal has said if Subaru lets anybody in the Emilia camp die Roswaal will nuke as many of the living members left until he's consumed by his contract to make sure Subaru wants to reset.
I'm not baiting.
Probably, which just shows how much Tappei is milking me.
are you the same person when you wake up as when you went to sleep?
Yes, because I still remember everything about me after I wake up. It's not a severance, it's a pause. If you go to sleep and wake up unable to recall anything about yourself and have a massive personality shift as a result of that, you are no longer the same person because you have lost the link to your past self. A tiny moment to moment change is not the same thing as a full erasure. nuRem deserved to die.
She can't turn Rem into a coffee table. It would be a koff table
My tits were dry and about to fall off and now they're bulging with milk again
More like possible, actually. Hopefully I won't come back.
It's to show that self lobotomisation is enough to garner the sympathy of the person you hurt most
Spica put a lot of work in before she started getting sympathy from Subaru and we don't even know what Rem thinks of her now.
Only if you are cute and retarded*
It's called stalling. Rem is back now because Subaru is an anal bead and therefore Tappei doesn't need to worry about progressing the ship.
This thread feels Spec
It's like we're alive again after being dead for the horrors of Vollachia
This has to be so fucking anticlimactic for Oniricbaru
From his perspective, Rem has been lost for like a week and a half at most
He can't hug her, he can't comfort her, and he knows that he will be erased from existence once Subaru dies or live inside Petra's head forever
Emilia, Petra and Rem brutally murder Al and tear Subaru out of his asshole
All of them are now insane and extremely horny
Subaru "No Way Fags" all three of them to kill himself just to go back and save Al
Emilia undiscovers love which was caused when Subaru got kidnapped
Petra unlearns all the special stuff about Subaru, goes back to being a nobody since she only read the book as part of Al's scheme
Rem reverts back to Provisional Rem because Roi doesn't puke her up now
Please do it Tappei. My sides would boldly go where no sides have gone before, seeking new life and new civilizations.
Holy shit Tappei is going to do this. It makes wayyyy too much sense.
Spec
His heads going to explode when he wakes up
You can't just drop dubs on cursed shit like that
I can't believe it bros
I can't fucking believe it
Source. NOW. This is too new I cant find it
Fanart already?
The "argument" is about you lying, moron.
It wasn't a lie at worst it was a mis-wording in my description. I assume everyone here has seen the series so who exactly am I lying to and for what gain?
You're pissed about something else I said but instead of addressing that directly you are really desperate for a win on something stupid and unrelated which is why you started this autistic pilpul and screeching of yours.
He doesn't know about the first time
He was aware he was killed by something with rattling chains which he later finds out is Rem's weapon.
She did mean things, she violently tortured Subaru and she was presented as a villain prior to Subaru forgiving her, then saving her, and her redemption later in the second arc. I read this shit back when it first came out and everyone hated her before her redemption.
Your screeching or your high school master debater wordplay and spinning isn't changing that.
Average re zero arc runs for 90-100 chps. And we are at 34. There's a lot of shit yet to happen, so i will be less judgemental for this anti climatic rem comeback.
Remkino is back on the menu.
It's a hook to sell the next volume after this one. I'm sure a flash back is coming in the next few chapters. But its hiatus time now.
Nothing other than a Rem chapter can have an impact and rattle the community like this. Un fucking real.
, so i will be less judgemental for this anti climatic rem comeback
Oh yeah. I'VE BEEN LESS JUDGMENTAL SINCE ARC 7! FUCK YOU!
I was patient, I really was patient.
Pic related is how I've felt every time I've read this since a certain point in arc 8 and it's only gotten worse.
It's ok to skip arc 7 and arc 8
I don't know how many "he wrote arc 3, 4, 5 and 6" i have left bros
Just love Emilia and you'll be fine. Nothing to worry about with Emilia and nothing else matters any way.
I skipped the latter half of arcs 5 and 6 too. I only wanted to see Al the GOD do stuff.
You'll fit right in with most of the community
Rip to all the Remanons who are no longer here to witness this
reddit:
HOLY SHIT REM IS BACK HOLY PEAK WE ARE SO BACK!!!!
Anon Babble:
waaaah this is so anticlimatic!! this arc sucks!!!!
interesting how different the reactions are
Because like the Index threads, you fucks are being brigaded by doomfags. They did the exact same thing there.
I'll never stop loving her. I think of her every day.
>HOLY SHIT REM IS BACK HOLY PEAK WE ARE SO BACK!!!!
I'm this
>waaaah this is so anticlimatic!! this arc sucks!!!!
But I'm also this
I'm so obsessed with Rem that this chapter has derailed my entire day and I can think of nothing else and can't focus on anything.
you're both autistic, calm the fuck on retards
there's no point in counting if she killed him 100 times, killed him eprsonally 500 times and caused 1000 other deaths. The point that even MC reached is, that his actions causes the violent response, because both Ram and Rem are not murderous psychos to begin with. Just like alter he needed to realize that being a psycho crying retard wont help durning mansion raid, here he needed to realize that from mansion guardian standpoint, he's stranger that act all strange, talks like he knows people for some time yet they see him first time, and for Rem he smells like a witch cultist. You're fighting over literal first arc where MC learns the hard way how to earn trust instead of running your mouth and that it isn't areal world and here maids can and are actually fighting force that will slap your shit if you do anything their consider dangerous for the mansion
ofc, for some time, especially after dying, Subaru fears them because it's rather not common for a jap school dropout to be hunted and brutally killed by a cute maid because you acted shady. So what he does it trying to actually proving that he wants to protect the mansion too and pull his weight instead of running his mouth about Emilia. And there whole village stuff happens for him to show that. Like the whole first 3 arcs show that even if someone is nice to him, it's out of curtesy and if he does anything suspicious or dangerous to their lord they'll not hestitate a second to kill him off.
Him dying 1, 10 or 100 to someone he later befriends doesn't matter, because it only show that before friendship, his action was leading to outcome where that person considred him a threat to whatever thing they were doing. threaten kingdom or do some witch tier shit and even Reinhard will chop his head off.
Spicas only purpose now is to get murdered by Rem now that she has her memories back
This was originally a discussion about the popularity of Rem vs Emilia, so the point I started off trying to make is that presenting Rem early on as a dangerous potential enemy contributed to her popularity later when she became cutesy and friendly basically via gap moe.
While Emilia didn't have this kind of development and has just been a good guy who always does good things from the start.
We were robbed
I'm giving it a couple more chapters. Usually when there is a big cliffhanger like this there is a flashback chapter or two explaining how things arrived here. It just sucks that now there will be 2 month hiatus.
You don't say. Gotta read the new chapter.