Chainsaw Man

asaden season

Are those old tits?

Is this the /snk/ thread?

the snk is dead, long live csm

The parallels are not very funny, I prefer Yorukuna.

Yes, /snk/bros are welcome here. Only Pee seethes about it and he's on his contaiment thread

Oh so we call it /csm/ now. Don't worry I got it.

How can this cliffhanger be worth 2 weeks of waiting?

I've seen better

I genuinely believe neither Asa nor Yoru will kill Denji desu. Yoru will truly love Denji she won't be able to do that. While Asa will fall out of love with Denji completely the weapon made from him will be useless. I believe that chainsaw she's holding will be from s.o else, Yoshida, Miri, .... Nobana cause why not

I don't know why Fujimoto refuses to give them screen time

No, those are old man's chest

That's any character not named Denji nowadays.

But t-the name of the manga i-is-

Don't care, Aki is widely regarded as the best character and Makima hard carried the manga's popularity.

on the other hand, that is clearly a dress

This but in Hell soon

The only people I could see being that Chainsaw are Denji, Pochita or Yoru and Asa isn't really attached to Pochita.

Those are clearly flames ... covering an old (very very old) man 's chest

Yoshida likes to watch

He's got almost nothing to lose if he shits the bed with those characters and a lot to win if he does something good.
I don't know if he's too scared to do something or if he really doesn't give a shit

Since this is exactly what Death wants

I actually already discarded that theory.
Death has no interest in Asaru fighting her. She doesn't want to be erased or killed.

Did we ever get a confirmation who the annoying retard that killed Nayuta was working with? Was it the government or Death Devil?

Not Pochita for sure.
Not Denji for sure cause he's the Protagonist he won't die.
Yoru? I don't think Asa can weaponize half of her brain and can still function properly though.

Barem? He's with Death, but Public Safety were in on it as well since they were already expecting Black CSM to be released at the sushi place ahead of time.

Yeah, Denji being the Protagonist and thus cannot die is indeed a very strong counterargument for that chainsaw being him there. That means the chainsaw is 100% from s.o else, in other words, Asa will get another love interest very soon

Its obvious it is Denji. The whole part2 builds up to this.

Can you imagine the amount of hate and vitriol Asa would generate if she actually killed Denji?

Only around the dencels here, most of the fandom that keeps up with the manga loves asa.

Yeah but no one would feel bad about the seething DenKeks.

So who does she want Asa to kill?

Denji won at life

I wouldn't, retards can seethe for all I care.
Pretty justifiable especially if she doesn't want to have sex and she would absolutely kill Yoru too, if Death wasn't immortal Asa should kill her too.

Yoru? I don't think Asa can weaponize half of her brain and can still function properly though.

People can live with only half their brain.

I feel like Asa's kill list should be:
1. Shigga
2. Yoru
3. Denji
All the people that turned her life into a living hell.

No Fire Devil?

Shigga's pawn, same as Falling.

By that logic Asa should kill Death thrice over instead, since every single one of these people only got involved in Asa's life because of her.

it's not 100% confirmed yet
implied yes, but it's possible she's running some kind of a game of her own.

Didn't Barem flat out said that Fire is "Famine's" pawn?

Asa loves Denji. Cope and seethe.

Righ now no one, my theory is that Shigga is getting ready to fight a bigger big bad. Call it devil devil, God, tree fuckery, whatever.

God these threads stink now, just complaining constantly. where's your faith in Fujimoto?

God these threads stink now

because you posted scatwer

Fujimoto killed all the goodwill he built up with Fire Punch, CSM part 1, and the oneshots by shitting out CSM part 2 which he very clearly didn't want to make.

God these threads stink now

Because you're not posting enough Cutewer

where's your faith in Fujimoto?

3 words: The Big Lebowski

No guys that chainsaw is just a chainsaw shop that Asa turns into a weapon. Perfect Poojimoto subversion.

He did but there are reasons to believe that Fire may be different from the rest.
For example, why does Shigga bother eating Fakesaw Man with Fire Devil inside it?
I just have a feeling that Fire has its own kind of a scheme going. The conversation with Denji will probably be pretty telling.

Best post of the thread so far. SCATwer was vile.

I just have a feeling that Fire has its own kind of a scheme going.

Barem said the Fire is one of Shigger pawns. I doubt Fire isn't controlled like Falling is.

Let's improve the smell of this thread with Makima flowers!

Makima smells like pure evil and denji's cum

snifffffffffff

Why would Fire send Fakesaw to kill Death if she was Death's pawn?

Makima

denji's cum

You couldn't have said something less believable if you tried.

pure evil and denji's cum

But I think it is irrefutable Yoru smells like that.

I love funny one liners

There's reasons to believe Fire is a pawn, but there's also some weirdness going on that seems to contradict its role as a pawn.
Anyway we've only see it for like 3 panels so it's too early to tell what its role is going to be.

don't forget gunpowder for yoru

I also think there is something more going on with Fire, but I don't think we can predict it with our current information.

Denji vs FSM theme
youtu.be/4_MgguTy8hA?si=F257AZFWfQPYxVv8

I originally wanted to say dog cum but it felt too dirty

Who's to say Fire wasn't fucking with FSM? to any devil old enough it should be obvious that Famine wasn't Death.

Amachu didn't like this

Diet and exercise reference? Sanity reference?

Death has no interest in Asaru fighting her

read the manga

How did Denji turned her life into a living hell?

Pschizo didn't like this

the last 3 remaining chainsaw man readers give their opinions

Pretty justifiable

Absolutely. Denji only cares about sex and has no family. No nothing of value will be lost and no one will miss him if he dies.

nothing of value will be lost

trvkenuka

I want Sukuna to put me against the wall and rape me with his two massive balls

microdick...

if snk means sunk cost, yes

Yes. Welcome.

Kill yourselves.

Pee is malding

Isayama, you fucking hack...
Always.

Everyone i don't like is P

many such cases

Why does she mindbreak people?

Schizos arent people

p is alright though

Nice eye detectives, P just made 4 more powy.jpg post seething about it.

FIRE PUNCH??
AGNI FIRE PUNCH??
PEAK? KINO?

Yoru...

By saving her life multiple times and for being the only person in her life who actually told her to stop blaming herself and live for herself as she wished.
What a monster.

Damn... I just realized... Denji haters also hate Jesus Christ...

kekji lost to ass though
yoru lost to cock

your a slave to you're sex drive

isn't we all are? Let me add that this is one of the reasons why most are unhappy, they cannot into H because dealing with what is around the vagina - the woman - is difficult. Man needs to have some kinda hobby/ Interest to pour all his life energy into, it's very hard for a man to stay put and be content with

Kekji lost to cock. His own cock.

it's not like any fewer people would read the manga KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

Thank God Amachu is here to show us how evil he is

Hehe you're so pathetic :)

says the whore who's rubbing her huge fat ass on his cock

micro bros...we need a new cope

despite yoru being so sexy i just cant goon to CSM characters

yoru is slave to denji's sex drive because it can't not comply given denji could goon to any hoe but yoru can't use any weapon to defeat death wish. It's denial on yoru's part given the war devil had submitted to human whims and an attempt at trying to gaslight denji into his not being in control of her that not only didn't land but had been accounted for given that scene where he tells pochita another crazy hoe had been after him. yoru is a slave to death and denji and can do nothing about it but wait since even its gamble on asa being useful didn't work

I-It's you who's addicted to sex. I'm just acting on Asa's impulses, I swear!

Meanwhile Asa:

snoring

Yoru's act is not too convincing.

death with*

does a good job showing how evil yoshida is, that is true

if she were snoring she wouldn't have reacted to yoru giving him a kiss and not have bothered with yoru giving him a handjob. She was wide awake, reacted to it and that she didn't complain about the handjob but did so about the kiss meant she at least didn't deny she wanted it, but nice try

trannies like you arent people either

That pic shows you guys are as biased as CHU.

Let's face it, Yoru didn't learn how to do all that stuff from Asa of all people.
She's a natural at it.

tell me which civilians asa had attacked prior to yoshida attempting to dismember her

Middle panel

I still don't understand why Yoru thinks this.
My only explanation is that Fuji is a hack.

asa didn't learn from yoru either

This is not about Asa, its about Yoru. PS can't just ignore a devil like that.

until they fuck yoru is still winning over cock

Not sure what you mean, but she is a devil who has been incapable of feeling romantic love, so from her perspective seducing another person has always been a one-way affair that's turned others into her property.

the almighty war devil settling for human cock

Not sure what you mean

"You will be able to turn him into a weapon if he likes you".

We were told Wars powers work under her own perception, why would Denjis perception matter?

Horsefu cuddles.
All for Denji.

yoru lied about how its powers work and it hadn't been stronger than pochita in the first place which is why it had to use a schoolgirl on earth. why anyone believes anything a devil says in the first place would make no sense

yoru lied about how its powers work

retarded headcanon, stfu

why would you believe something a devil said just because it had been put on a page before you?

it's internal dialogue from when asa was the protag. stop making up fanfic with stuff that's blatantly contradicted

Day 3 of my devil hunter training was uneventful

It probably doesn't but they still have to perceive that they're liked by the other person.
I think what obstructs Yoru/Asa there aren't Denji's feelings but rather their own feelings towards Denji.
She can't perceive Denji as her property because she likes him equally.
Yoru just continues to act in denial about it by claiming that it must be that Denji who didn't like Asa, even though Denji admits several times that he does.

It's pretty obvious now that Shigga is not the true King of Terror.
If we follow biblical canon, then the final big bad will be Satan.
But Fujimoto might go full god-hating jap and make it God or the Demiurge.

Hope you live a long, successful and fullfilling life.

it'd be funny if it's just genghis khan

I am the war devil, my powers are beyond those of other devils

just don't mind how I'd have to contract a schoolgirl to have a chance at doing something

I am poweful

ok I will let a human fuck that girls' body if he does what I want

I'll fight the falling decil again in the hopes this time I win

yoru is weak
your beliefs contradict what yoru said with what it does and doesnt do, he lied and you fell for it, at least asa had no options because her brain had been blown out when your case seems to be straight up low iq

I think that is Yorus rule:

"If someone likes me then he belongs to me"

That is why Denji "must" like her, its not really necessary at a fundamental level, Denjis perception doesn't truly matter.

Reminder that we still haven't seen Yoru's full power form. What do you think it looks like?

there's no "yoru's perception of this" or "asa's perception of that", there's how yoru is weak to do anything to death or pochita on its own and how denji and pochita are not. this whole perception mechanic works the same way the prophecy does, it'd remain a useful lie so long as some specific people believe in it

I knew at least someone remembered Asa Mitaka.

something pochita btfo in hell a long time ago anyway during a one v all

Would sex devil make denji job?

Shigga is not the true King of Terror.

She is right now, but the bigger bad will take the tittle from her the day of the apocalypse.

So basically. I agree. The prophecy is talking about a different KOT, not Shigger.

Devil Yoru probably has Falling Devil's body proportions.

Pochitafags are truly coping nowadays huh...

why do you believe the prophecy?

Her true form is literally just naked Asa performing dogeza

post denji catching yoru midair

Because otherwise I'm truly losing my time reading this.

or you've read it wrong the entire time. Change your ways, anon

Grim trvke...

33% of readers realized this during the aging arc and quit

is there a right way of reading this?

reread everything and whenever a devil appears on a panel or says something assume it'd be a lie and by the time you catch up you'll understand what's going on
that's a more useful way to read it regardless of "right" or "wrong" which are irrelevant words anyway

All of the other Horsemen look completely human except their ringed Devil eyes.
Yoru is going to be some kind of eldritch Devil monsters for real though.
Face it, Yoru will look exactly like Asa and Yoru and Asa are the two sides of the previous War Devil that got mauled by Pochita.

I'll see this sinking ship until to the bitter end... it is not smart, but it is what it is.

Shigga is a false KOT that was placed upon the throne of Devils when Pochita erased the alternate endings to life other than death.
This flooded her with fear making her the strongest current Devil.

pochita would have to vomit the parts of yoru it ate and that "face it" doesn't help your text not being taken as that of an llm

It is what it is

he says this while browsing Anon Babble

Too scared to watch the YouTube tutorials again? You should just be some Chad's sissywife instead

I understand that, but I don't think that makes her fake, as... well... I define the KOT as the "strongest current Devil".

Now THIS is a story arc I can get behind

Asa's mom was the parts of Yoru that Pochita ate and vomited on Earth.

A mech with miniguns and grenade launchers

You might be right but their have been hints that Shigga's power is far from absolute.
She seems kind of fragile despite not being able to die and never retaliates when her sisters hit her.
Also, her pawns have been able to disobey her.
Maybe she is not used to being this powerful and lack the finesse to properly use her powers.

Someone should make a Project Wingman edit of this with “You’re a slave to History”
I would do it myself but I have to go get groceries.

we hate Denji and Denjicels he-ACK!

An arc would imply that it's leading to anything

prophecy believers

denji hate

how does denji mindbreak so many?

it's literally just as bag of skin we see. she can barely stay upright.

Someone should make a Project Wingman edit

This but Power as Prez youtube.com/watch?v=_hsRG7KVZo0

I miss her

Stop harassing asasissies

It's INCELji and INCELjicels, get it right.

Holy shit, you tanked that

What did you just call me, faggot?

my glorious king

N-nothing
*gluck gluck gluck*

Denji striding towards the Horsefu's.

They await him with open arms and moist vaginas.

stayed with the USS SnK until the bitter end

staying with the USS CSM until it tragically sinks

Vamooos

Fujimoto won’t let you down. He promised.

go back

cringe schizos

Did you feel the same way about Gun Devil red herring in part 1?

Fuck that shit

can't say you weren't spoonfed now though

After the heartbreak I went through from myself, Eren and Deku getting cucked, I'm glad to finally self-insert to an MC like Denji, one where there is absolutely no fucking way of him getting cucked! When he gets his happy ending I feel like I can finally love again. Do you feel the same way guys and girls(gay guys)?

that minuto

Pee is seething again...

sup p

not him

Based snkscholars

Considering how Death, Control, and Famine were normal-looking women, the same is likely true of War.

Denji will die offscreen

bigbird

We didn't see their weakened forms

I’ve been thinking about what made Part 1 of Chainsaw Man hit so hard emotionally, and for me, it really comes down to Aki. He was the only truly "normal" guy.

Denji and Power were chaotic and over-the-top, but Aki was grounded, reserved, and human in the most relatable way.

Watching him grow attached to those two goofballs slowly letting his guard down, forming a found family only for that to be ripped away… it gave the story real emotional weight.

His arc was heartbreaking and anchored the craziness in something deeply human.

In Part 2, while I’m still enjoying it, it feels like everyone is a weirdo. There’s no Aki-type character to balance the insanity or offer a "normal" perspective. The emotional core feels more scattered as a result.

Denji is even more of a caricature of himself, constantly driven by shallow desires.

Asa/Yoru is fascinating, but their whole dynamic is centered around mental health struggles and inner conflict, which makes them feel unstable rather than grounding.

Even the supporting cast is full of eccentric or morally ambiguous characters.

It makes the story fun and unpredictable, but I feel like there’s no one "normal" to ground the narrative emotionally.

No one like Aki to serve as the calm eye in the storm. Maybe that’s intentional maybe Part 2 is meant to feel more chaotic and disconnected but I do miss that core emotional throughline.

Our HERO
….and Kekji

Is she winning the rematch or is she getting oneshotted?

The more friendly a devil is to humans the more human they look, yoru isn't friendly to humans at all lmao

I'm allowed to waste food

Kills a chef with one bang

Yoru is winning against Falling, it was foreshadowed.

How does reddit understand the manga better than 99% of people here?

Yoru is cooking

WIFEru!

Haruka was right there as the semi-normal guy, but Part 2 doesn’t seem interested in its cast.

people are too caught up in tribalism and schizo chatrooms

What's her endgame with Denji? Does she actually like him and was bullshitting about turning him into a weapon if he fails at beating Death?

She killed her own children
She likes him but she’s kill him in a heartbeat

Does she actually like him

Yes, her and Asa share all emotions

She’d

Denji is her dog, likes to play with him and enjoys his suffering. But she would sacrifice Denji if need it.

if need it

Denji? The waffled one

Denji in the end of Part 2 youtube.com/watch?v=WAlTJ8gPJ3M

I mean, Asa will need Denji spinal cord chainsaw

It's if needed, Rajesh. Not if need it

Mmmm

Ok thanks Gabriel

Shhhh

Not sure why you schizos think thats my name

What's with the sisters and zoophilia?

You said it starts with a G

Yeah, it starts with G
Not even close to Gabriel though

My boy Guillermo

I’m tired of part 2 trying to copy the worse aspects of part 1. And failing.

Can someone tell what was even the point of asa’s backstory in the Falling Devil arc?

It didn’t develop her character. It didn’t push the plot forward. It didn’t change her motivations or decisions in any meaningful way. It was just pure misery for the sake of misery — dead mom, evil adult, no friends, cat betrayal — like Fujimoto was ticking boxes on a trauma checklist.

And then what? Nothing.

Asa doesn’t grow. She doesn’t reflect on it. She doesn’t gain any new motivation. The flashback gets dropped in the middle of the arc and then immediately forgotten, like it only existed to pad out the chapter count and pretend to deepen her character.

It felt like Fujimoto just dumped trauma on her because “sad = deep,” but there’s zero substance behind it. It doesn’t explain anything new about Asa, it doesn’t connect to the main narrative, and it’s never referenced again. You could delete the entire flashback and nothing in the story would change.

It’s the textbook definition of fake depth — emotional bait with no narrative purpose. If you’re going to force-feed readers a tragic backstory, at least have it mean something.

But this? It's just another reason for me to hate asa even more instead of sympathizing, A crying bitch forcing me to feel sympathy with this tier of writing? Nah I refuse.

How fat

Fujimoto was trying to do something with her in that arc but quickly discarded it when the next arc started

Asa Mitaka doesn’t care about your complains. Now bend over. Asa is going to turn your unwashed ass into her property so you can finally have a reason to cry.

Fucking based

Reminder that Denji slurps man ass

So Yoru is Asa's mom, Miri is Asa's half brother as I said

Asa will win the rematch

Kobeni?

Kobeni!

But this? It's just another reason for me to hate asa even more

Just say you hate her because you're a salty shipperfag already, much less time and effort than typing this whole hypocrite essay right

I don't know if she really has an end game beyond putting the crew back together and just blasting away at humans while having a fucking laugh about it with the boys (Hitler, Nuke, probably Denji too at this point). She's not really this big mastermind.
Currently she's running after a Primal armed with some crappy building sword that won't make a dent on Falling.

Genuine question, anyone still delusional enough to ship YoshiDen at this point? Anyone still retard enough to think it's Asa's fault their imaginary gay ship didn't happen now? Anyone?

No, War Devil lost to cock

61 year old Asaru sits next to Denji as they watch their 6 children and 14 grandkids play in the yard

All according to plan "she thinks to herself

The high ranking Devils are greeting their king.
But their king was Denji all along.
Fucking kino.

Never underestimate the delusions of Fujo's.
They are living in an alternate reality.

Are you hungry

Alive and well

Yup, that's Kobeni

33 days for Reze movie panel

Kishibe being missing is extra weird. His ex non-girlfriend showed up multiple times you’d think he would have popped up somewhere himself to give kusoji some advice on how not to spend his life thinking with his dick by now.

Honestly I just don't think that Part 2 has any hard hitting supporting cast members, it's kinda hard to take Fumiko or Famine seriously, Yoshida simply does not have much depth, and death just is not on the same level as Makima. Fun and iconic Characters like Kobeni, Kishibe or Angel Devil were common place in part 1, but there just aren't characters like this in part 2, closest we get is Katana Man ngl. Even a lot of part 1's random public safety agents were humanized and made unique enough to be memorable, like The mold guy who fought Reze, or The Stone Devil guy. There's some really good ones like Nayuta or Barem, but Most part 2 characters just lack sauce, depth or anything that makes them feel less like side characters. Even someone like Beam or violence dying felt impactful and made waves, like they'd have to kill Asa or Yoshida to even hit as hard as those two. Nayuta's definitely hit hard, but aside from her there is no possible character death in part 2 that could even approach the impact of Aki or Power's deaths, unless of course Fujimoto kill Denji permanently, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

year old Yoru sits next to Denji
Fixed it

this is common behavior for female demon lords

No doubt about it.

Asa’s the only one in Denji’s life now that even does something. If she's gone it could have consequences for everyone involved so I can see why Fujimoto wants to keep her alive. But knowing Fujimoto’s bloodlust he’s just bound to kill her off sooner or later so Denji can go nuclear.

falling devil, next question

I was surprised that Yoru and Denji didn't start a fight to the death after that fakesaw chapter. I guess they're really getting kept together until the final arc.

yuko?

Quanxi also has mentioned him, how he told her to not mess with Denji and all

Holy fvarking conqvest kino

kishibe might be in hell getting conquest and blood back out again

Gojo...

I might start reading again if she does.

he’s just bound to kill her off sooner or later so Denji can go nuclear.

Then who will bring Denji back from his nuclear state?

post the perpetual machine panel

That’s a man

It's 10pm, you know what that means.

It's chill hours.

She's coming back before Power and Reze

SHOWTIME

Reddit was constantly calling Yoru a vile evil rapist all the way until her reveal in the restaurant happened and we got to see Denji's reaction to her.
They understand nothing about the story or Fujimoto in general.

Then who will bring Denji back from his nuclear state?

Nobody that’s the entire point. Until Denji gets bored of being forever alone with no woman to have sex with. Power, Reze, and Kobeni’s sisters isn’t going to wake up one day and randomly themselves at him.

Oh mother... forgive me...
I will not suffer

based
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Retards!

Makima is the one responsible for bursting the economic bubble in Japan

Thanks a lot.

I just watched The Big Lebowski and it was fun
Why isn't Part 2 like that

Yoru wants to fuck Denji as much as he wants to fuck her, but are slaves to Denji's cock

Lack of funny characters.

yoru will turn it into a double rape
mark my words
yoru fucks denji without his consent
and as a result
denji fucks asa without her consent

Anon Asa is the type of person who reads Erotic books

Makima is the only horsefu who refused to give Denji her virginity.

Thus she was the most evil horseman of the 4.

Makima wasn't more friendly to humans than angel yet she looked more human than him. Horsemen are an anomality among devils

asa makes smut about chainsaw man x female self insert

She didn't refuse though, it's just that he never asked for it.

constantly calling Yoru a vile evil rapist

There are people who still do it

Yoru is not an evil rapist she is a good rapist.

She promised him sex for defeating the Gun devil and never delivered.

Kiga (Real) didn't offer her pussy either

actually she offered him sex while in bed together and denji asked to be her dog instead

Denji never asked for sex

Only Fire greeted him, and that's because she is probably one of Pochita's followers or a fan of Denji

They haven't even met.

Until Denji gets bored of being forever alone with no woman to have sex with

And Then...

Kiga (fake) only offered her chest hole

Holy redditor

Denji already consented though.

he doesn't have a formal contract so it's rape! dont like yoru! rape!

Makima is the only horsefu who refused to give Denji her virginity.

But then her reincarnation...

I'm pretty sure Yoru bitting Denji's lip and the lap dance were things Asa wanted to do. People think that Asa is a bit of a prude but she problably uses Yoru as a way to do things she want to do with the excuse that is someone else doing it

Nayuta never developed her sex drive, she died pure and virgin

Nayuta inherited Makima's repressed feelings toward Denji.

I'm pretty sure

With no proof...yeah

Asa doesn't like sex

A truth reddits trying so hard to deny

With no proof

The manga literally says Yoru feels the same desires as Asa, go read it.
Asa also never complains about Yoru jerking Denji off, just gets worried about how Denji will see her

Read the manga

Yoru feels the same desires as Asa

That doesn't mean everything of Yoru were from Asa though

Yeah, that's why Yoru can’t stop kissing Denji for more than five minutes

Hope she'll return as a grown-up. Really curious how Denji will treat her then

The only people so say shit like this are the people who have convinced themselves they will never get laid.

Don't care.
Asaden is cuckquean-coded, and all types of cuckolding are cringe (unless it involves a man dicking down a lesbian).

Best ship ever.

Pretty sure Asa didn't care about Denji and Yoru anymore, or else why she didn't have any reactions with their fierce fight with Fakesaw last chapters? Feel like Asa wouldn't even mind if Fakesaw killed off Denji right now

Pretty sure Asa didn't care about Denji

read the manga

Asa got no reactions for the last 5 chapters. That's in the manga

this is my new headcanon from now on

Even better after reading part2

I guess even Asa wasn't worried about Fakesaw.

pic goes hard

Nayuta inherited [HEADCANON]

that handjob didnt exactly look like both parties said yes to it

Why didn't Fujimoto just go full blown Cunnyuta NayuDen? He could have gotten away with it and it would have been more interesting

you can call me redditor but not a liar

Why Yoru Is Responsible for Everything I Did And It Was The Hormones Acting Up It’s Not My Fault

Written by Asa Mitaka

Kobeni look like that!?

SCUMji killed a man.

It was in self-defense. He looked at him the wrong way.

This series is just miserable to read. Where's the fun?

He was jaywalking.

I'm a fraud
I'm a flop
They called part two pure slop

I'm a bore
I'm a whore
I make the readers snore

I'm a loser
I'm a quitter
please just flush me down the shitter

Real ones still Stan FumiDen

Fumiko has done nothing of value except killing herself.

She didn't even do that correctly

Part 1 and part 2 heroines

Even a lot of part 1's random public safety agents were humanized and made unique enough to be memorable

Even the guy who was in like 3 panels just to die to Reze as a joke is on the level of the average Part 2 supporting character.

That person at the very least had character. Part 2 has that Women Are guy who just dies without ever finishing his sentence and that’s the most we will ever get out of him.

Why does Asa shave her pits?

Fumiko is the hero of humanity. She donates organs, and arises again and again.

she's one of the more interesting characters

I just hope the scam she pulled on Aging devil won't remain a "Lebowski moment" but will actually be followed up on.
The human side needs some players for end game.

go back

The Lebowski moment with her is that she has literally no motives aside from what pleases her and what keeps her alive.

(me)
It's sort of an antithesis to the story's message about selfishness by her embodying a selfishness that isn't tempered by love. Love is what brings everyone together.

the story's message

low iq

How.

to read with expectations on what to encounter or with a pretense that a narration would involve narratives or have points at all is entirely useless when applied to original work. If you want something to work the way you think it should work you don't want to read, you want to be catered to and specifically you want your expectations to be catered to. Go read a mathematics book or some chemical reactions if you want structures and "the points" of something to be something else. To even have considered narrations would have to have structures which you'd then apply was specifically low iq in that there was no thought given to whether there'd been mechanisms at work in the narration and the medium that would not have anything to do at all with an audience. there's narrative without narration, without audiences and without "points", all of which you failed to consider. You don't want to read anything, you want a dopamine loop and that's it, which is low iq

don't expect that dude to elaborate. he just shows up to write "low iq" or "go back" and disappears.

does he?

This guy reads Part 2

btw do you believe the prophecy real quick?
if that's reading to you

i forgot he does occasionally ramble like a schizo

Nope. She's a childkiller. Denji would never.

It was just expanding on why Asa is a loner. And it was like 5 pages. Are you retarded?

lmao you're complaining when the other anon literally wanted and answer and was given one, ask chatgpt to explain it or something if you didn't get it

yeah now he's seething

Lots of purple prose writing fanfics about me and my supposed beliefs based entirely off of a single post. No shit there's narratives without narrative, that doesn't even remotely apply to part 2 in any regard.

that doesn't even remotely apply to part 2

and you would know because? like I said you didn't consider it, which was one instance of reading with "low iq"

Someone's having a melty...

Can you explain why Part 2 lost 72% of its sales?

lil bro forgot he's reading a shonen

yuko!

why would you think that because it's a shonen there'd not be anything else to it though? you read ads everyday and see packages that get a lot more to them and their design than you'd let through too for example

By using my knowledge from Fujimoto's interviews regarding the work's message, consideration of it within the context of both his works and the wider literature, and the utilization of observation to, in a way, derive "normality" regarding his writing. Art is a series of conscious choices that ultimately reflect the person behind it so from there you can derive meaning.
Really is too bad I can't even do theme scholar stuff without getting shitposted by schizos. Big part of why this general fucking sucks.

I agree, anon. People are too quick to write off shonen as surface level. There's deep shonen with hidden themes like Attack on Titan

that dude is a special case even in /csm. always angry and always rambling about nothing. don't even mind him.

I only read CSM and OP, what else is good?

Bug Ego is awesome.

Art is

no it's not

By using my knowledge from Fujimoto's interviews

which is surely how he goes about writing a media piece in private, using written, imagistic and otherwise any type of source that`d not show up in interviews or even in in person communication.

consideration of it within the context of both his works and the wider literature

because csm is not a standalone piece at all. Shakespeare and laszlo krasznahorkai are required to understand it, for sure. No reading it "as is", there must be context.

that ultimately reflect the person behind it

says you

so from there you can

no. art does not need to have a point because you yourself said what it`d do would depend on the author so it`d be up to one, and not a rule

Really is too bad

literally the only sequence of words you wrote that could begin to not be useless, otherwise your takes were thoroughly low iq

People realized Fujimoto wasn't bringing back the fan favorites from Part 1

not angry and the rambles aren't about nothing either, but why you'd read it that way is on you

Yup. That's Chu.

conquestfag

Bad eye

He's right actually, everyone's a conquestfag

Did you not read the image? Art being reflective of the person(s) behind it through its choices, consciously or unconsciously, is basic observation and theory. It's why all those sophistical feminist critiques of stuff exist in the first place. Even not really having a "point" is reflective of this and doesn't go against anything you say about art having a point to it or not. Again you're just writing fanfics about my supposed beliefs because you're either pedantic or you've convinced yourself part 2 has no point to it and can't handle being wrong for some odd reason.
Where did they come from? I don't remember this person even from last week.

Did you not read the image?

I read it and ignored it

is basic observation and theory.

no it is not. It is you wanting art to be what you want it to be, that's all. Art could, can, and does exist beyond, outside and far off whatever an author could hope to have put in it that'd remain. for examples look at any painting and try asking their dead author what they wanted out of it.

Even not really having a "point" is reflective of this

not it is not. When something doesn't have a point whether the author wanted it to or not is irrelevant. If you can't separate work from author you're the problem and you literally can't read.

doesn't go against anything you say about art having a point to it or not

it does. there's art, then there is a work of art, then there is an author. Whether it's read, how it's read or if there'd been an author do not have to adhere to theory or cause and effect in how they'd be perceived beyond their literal physicality. It is you who wants to put something whre there's none, namely "theory" and "that they'd be subject to observation that'd be of consequence".

you're just writing fanfics

it's the opposite of a fanfic

about my supposed beliefs

about what you wrote

or you've convinced yourself

not at all, about anything, when part two ends maybe
you literally fail to read a manga because you put structure over it that's useless, that's all.

Chainsaw Man is about as deep as a puddle that some dog pissed in by chance.

Where did they come from? I don't remember this person even from last week.

no idea but i tried to converse with the guy and it was 100% impossible.
i just remember the guy getting real mad that i don't care to speculate about future events in the manga that we really have no clue about.

Ok so what's your opinion on Fumiko?

You guys are writing too much. Can you answer my questions so that /csm/ can determine who's right?
How dogshit is Part 2 on a scale from 1-10, with ten being the most dogshit?
How dogshit is Part 2 on a scale from 1-10, with ten being the most dogshit?

then
-1 because part two is not bad, anyone who denies it has to post yoru's ass, falling and the aging tree csm panel

It’s at least a 7 out of 10
Not because it did anything wrong but because it doesn’t do enough and to me that is it’s biggest sin.

go back

FUMIKO IS SHIT. DOGSHIT EVEN. You lost.

Brainlet
Scholar

7 out of 10 because 7 out of every 10 readers have dropped it

it is what it is

Yoru's ass

Art could, can, and does exist beyond, outside and far off whatever an author could hope to have put in it

You've actually summarized something I believe. It's why I brought up feminist critique. Even despite my belief in how shitty it is, I think it has value for the exact reason you mentioned. You're too caught up in my mentioning of "intentions."

When something doesn't have a point whether the author wanted it to or not is irrelevant.

I left room for this point in my language.

If you can't separate work from author you're the problem and you literally can't read.

Because it's a product of human intellect. It doesn't have to represent anything tangible or really anything at all about the people behind it or about anything really. But it ends up evoking feeling largely in part to that.

because you put structure over it that's useless, that's all.

Not my fault the manga is the one going out of its way to evoke that structure, which you've made no argument as to why it isn't. If you want to interpret the manga outside of that, i think it's valid even if I disagree. But keep in mind we're talking about a manga for teen boys not Finnegan's Wake for fuck's sake.
Really think this discussion isn't about art as much as it is postmodernism!

Also on the dogshit scale I think part 2 is 2. Overall I feel they could be doing more to sell the main hook of the relationship between the two MCs but it's on the whole a big improvement over part 1's character writing IMO.

Wow, really? Many anons would argue Part 2's characterization is inferior to Part 1.
See Unless you are specifically only referring to Asa and Denji. Even though, I think Denji's relationships with Aki, Makima, and Power were far more interesting

You're too caught up

no, what you wrote was wrong

I left room for this point in my language.

nice blog

Because it's a product of human intellect.

so what? you're gonna ask the pieta for directions to michelangelo's grave to understand she's holding her dead son? you're gonna ask the dead christ whether michelangelo read the bible in greek or in latin before he carved him there?

But it ends up evoking feeling

says you. whether it does or not and whether there'd be an audience at all is irrelevant. art exist beyond causing someone something or not, especialy at museums where npcs like you could stare at a piece for two lifetimes and still not understand it because no dopamina was released in your brains

the manga is the one going out of its way

it isn't. It is a sequence of pages with lines on it, whatever you think it does is your thinking alone. Fujimoto was not talking to you. the argument is there's no need for you to read it at all and it'd still would not have structure to it. Fujimoto drew a manga, that you see theory is a hallucination on your part.

i think it's valid

irrelevant, the manga exists regardless of whatever anyone would think about "validity"

we're talking about a manga for teen boys

so what? fujimoto wouldn't put or not put something there because there's a rule book. some could read the chemicals in gum packages and figure out their supply chain while other could read all of mathematics three times ovewr and still not get. You confused the work with the author with the media with who read it again and it's your problem alone

Really think

do you?

I think the issue with a lot of these discussions is that they exclude Yoru for some odd reason. For me she's fixes a lot of the issues I had with Power basically being put on the shelf for most the manga and more of her own stuff too. Yoshida not having much "depth" isn't something that I can agree with however. Another point is that while I do understand the likability of part 1's ensemble cast, size doesn't necessarily mean as much to me as does the "meaning" they feel to me, and on that front part 2 I think exceeds. Which is not to say I think part 2 has to compensate. Ultimately most of our emotional tension comes from feeling more connected to the character's struggles which makes for both immersive and engaging writing.

are we forgetung aging had the build of a man but possesed a pussy? horseMEN are women? With divks? Devils are all Transgender like bapoment

fire devil probably only shaped like a woman with a cock

isn't it aging just had bones?

Kojima doesn't care about the Reze movie

words words words to interpret Shart Poo

are you saying that our guy denji may have, uhh... misunderstood yoru's proposition about having sex?

Good morning I fucking hate Reze

art exist beyond causing someone something or not

No shit nigga. You're being pedantic again.

so what? you're gonna ask the pieta for directions to michelangelo's grave to understand she's holding her dead son? you're gonna ask the dead christ whether michelangelo read the bible in greek or in latin before he carved him there?

Did you literally miss the exact next sentence I wrote after that? Are you ESL? The mere existence of it doesn't mean much in and of itself, but art doesn't cause itself and the cause and the context surrounding it can be used to form AN (emphasis on an) interpretation just as much as an as is view can also have an intepretatjon. Your epistemology is dismissive of any viewpoint aside from your very paradoxically ardent and strict postmodernist interpretation. If that's case than you are playing volleyball without a net.
I know I've been harsh but I do sincerely wish you the best and a good day or night or what the fuck ever time it is.

Nope. She's a childkiller. Denji would never.

The mere existence of it doesn't mean much in and of itself

the mere existence of it is literally what makes it art. There's no need for audience, author or anything but it's mere existence.

but art doesn't

it does. That you want art to work one way or the other is your problem alone, again.

and the context surrounding it can be used to form

art does not need context. It can be thoroughly, 100% standalone, such as any picture or sculpture or not having to read literature to understand csm

interpretation

irrelevant. Whether anyone interprets anything or not out of the literal roof of the systine chapel would not detract from it being art.

Your epistemology

there isn't any, you, all you wrote and how you think is wrong, does not apply to art and makes no sense of csm either. which is why it began with your being presumedly low iq

its* in the third line

the child in question

i-it doesn't count

Gun Devil attacked when Aki was a kid, he is at least fucking 20 years old, same with tank devil.

grr, me want to kill chenso man

Fuck the Gun Devil

based

Why so much hate towards a fictional character? What is the real reason? What are you hiding?

Still Yoru's babies.

and now the hands she jerks denji off with.
good riddance

Yeah, that's even more vile than just being a child killer.

Because it's ................fun...........

couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

Art does not exist apart from an author who brings it about in some way. That is literally empirical, unobjectionable reality.

That you want art to work one way or the other is your problem alone,

Me saying art has a cause is not me wanting it to work one way or another or saying much about it as is other than just that it came into existence from something, just as like saying your mother gave birth to you isn't really saying much of anything either.

can be thoroughly, 100% standalone, such as any picture or sculpture or not having to read literature to understand csm

Who was talking about necessity? My basic premise of how I read the manga was primarily about the usage of reason innate to human nature (which can encompass wider research, but isn't absolutely necessary) to derive understanding, which is something everyone does everyday. You're choosing to be absurd and reductive about this and my thoughts on the manga for odd pedantic reasons.

Whether anyone interprets anything or not out of the literal roof of the systine chapel would not detract from it being art

Where in the world did I say that? Of course its art in itself. Regardless of what you think interpretation is a part of human nature, whether in reaction or nonreaction, effect or lack of it.

there isn't any

Let's call a spade a spade please.

Anyways, the whole debate was about how I allegedly approach art with expectations or ideas about how it should go. Regardless of our ideological dispositions, my belief is to let it speak to me and see what comes of it. Hopefully that puts it to rest.

And I’m sure mudpies taste phenomenal to people without access to real interaction i mean food

Art does not exist apart from an author who brings it about in some way

it does though. Once the work is there that there'd been an author or not is irrelevant. the majority of people who are ever gonna see paintings will have lived beyond times when whoever the author could have been would not be of use to think the art through with in a very empirical sense as well but you ignore it because apparently some "humans" in the far future will definitely not be able to see the pieta without asking it about michelangelo to get something out of it.

Me saying art has a cause is not me wanting it to work one way or another

yes it is. You could say art doesn't have a cause. that art had some form or medium to it has nothing to do with it having cause. There are works of art which you don't see can't see, won't ever understand yet they'll remain art all the same.

My basic premise of how I read the manga was

wrong.

usage of reason innate to human nature

artwork do not require reason in their authors to be art and do not require audiences even less so audiences that'd "reason". Art does not require "understanding" of anything either, that's you wanting art to be what you'd like

You're choosing to be absurd and reductive

no. There's a choice for coherence in how art and artworks happen and exist regardless of anyone or anything being there. you chose to apply some series of thoughts you have to works that don't require them and are trying to argue that they were there, which is just not the case since the work in question is paint over paper or pixels over screens.

interpretation is a part of human nature

not it is not. There is no such thing as interpretation and no such thing as human nature. there's how you want things to follow structures they don't have to and that didn't preclude them for coming about over there not being theory to them. you want there to be human nature and interpretation but that's all it is you wanting something.>Let's call a no

preclude them for

from

People like you are why kids need to go back to bullying the weak links into suicide.

and if they can't?

I've said it over and over again that art is art in and of itself regardless of how its perceived by others or whether we get meaning from it. I think art can be what it wants to be regardless of what I think or understand and I've made that clear. None of what you're saying is relevant.

since the work in question is paint over paper or pixels over screens

The work is a whole that's greater than the sum of its parts, with a conveyance of a message by narrative being a part of that. You haven't made any argument to support your interpretation of part 2's narrative as meaningless other than "it just is."

no such thing as human nature.

Every scientist throughout all of human history would disagree with you.

Everything in the world is about sex except sex, sex is about power.

The following is written through the spirit of that quote, a critic of CSM and Fujimoto.
I think of CSM as a fun and interesting story told in a clumsy and often amature way, the writer has a deep understanding of what makes a compelling story, but lacks the skills to express it, like art critic unable to imitate the skills or talents of a professional artist. The themes of the story get obscured by his personal agenda, often causing the reader to think of certain points to be written with ill intentions, I think the greatest victim of this has to be Asa Mitaka. As a character, she's profoundly rich, and can go in many different ways, Fujimoto used the conditions placed upon Asa to cripple her mentally and physically. A great emphasis is given to the responsible individual, Yoru, she takes Asa's emotions and perverts them in ways that defile the intentions. I see the relationship between Yoru and Denji is greatly misunderstood by the readers, Yoru is expressing Asa's emotions but she takes joy in Denji's suffering, his submission and desperate need to be controlled. While Asa is forcefully denied such experiences, the story intentionally indulges Denji, letting his desires twist into destructive impulses unrestrained by morals or emotions, all thanks to Yoru and what she promised, sex. Back to Asa, what happens when a individual is dulled into helpless suffering? Here it's a moment of surrender, Asa is free from her guilt, her trauma, her wish to be altruistic, because she accepted her powerless position, we see Yoru take what she wants from Asa and leave a wreckage behind. The richness of Asa's character is lost, spent for developing Yoru and Denji. Sex and power, what Denji seeks is physical experience, and what Yoru seeks is utter dominance. Asa can no longer identify with Yoru, she can no longer take responsibility for Yoru's actions, that's why she resigned her control. (1/2)

The work is a whole that's greater than the sum of its parts

no. It literally ends when the page ends you ant it to convey something or to have something for you to take out of it and it doesn't have to.It doesn't hae to have a narrative either. part two may very well not have one and to try to putone there would be just that expectations. There are those who want to see something that doesn't have to be there at all and those who don't. you want part two to have a narrative when it is a sequence of pictures in paper. There's no use to the thought.

Every scientist throughout all of human history would disagree with you.

great. it only takes one to prove them all wrong and science doesn't care about consensus either

(2/2) Her lack of expression and experience is emphasized by her absence, it's important for Fujimoto to ruin Asa's hopes and wishes to justify her actions. She no longer cares what Yoru does, after witnessing the nature of Denji and Yoru's desires. I think Asa died completely the last time we saw her. Back to Fujimoto, his stories are perversely rooted with intention of expressing preservation of love. A story in which characters change but to maintain the connection/feelings they shared, despite restraints of death or circumstances. We see Denji's love interests attract to him because of CSM, so he does his best to act the role, to maintain that attraction. So Asa is a perfect reversal of this idea, a character who is robbed of her life so that she's forced to experience abuse, she can't reject this experience, she can't fight back, while Yoru thrives in this setting because Fujimoto let's her show the nature of the story he's writing and Asa personified the loss. It's human nature to seek to gain or provide comfort even in the most bleak situations, I expect the same from Asa, now no longer trying to live for the sake of freeing a man who doesn't wish to be saved, or saving her body from her captor. The story greatly possess the themes of abuse but it's shown in a way that romanticized assault, I think it's a reflection of Fujimoto as a person. Sex, for Asa has always been repulsive, she is immature and naive, so she lost her power against Yoru, a character who greatly wished to express herself, no matter what she ruins in the process. This sheer abandon of reason is shared by Denji, and it can only be destructive to the point it reaches inward, Asa is killed by Yoru, and Pochita is killed by Denji. Leaving behind a shell of what was supposed to be a hero and a innocent girl.

Thirdies are like animals, they hate things for no reason.

Cuteze.

Anyone with eyes to see and an iq above >90 can tell you chainsaw man has a narrative. It's serialized in a magazine for teen boys. Say something besides just repeating things I already responded to and going "nuh uh."

great. it only takes one to prove them all wrong and science doesn't care about consensus either

Replication? Peer review?

What is the average age of /csm/? I bet 15

Uglyze.

postmodernist

What is that?

A thought movement characterized by the rejection of grand narratives and objective truth.

his stories are perversely rooted with intention of expressing preservation of love.

What does that mean?