If I found out my son was a reincarnated adult, I would be horrified. It won’t really be my child, but a soul that took over and caused my son’s death.
If I found out my son was a reincarnated adult, I would be horrified. It won’t really be my child...
Ironically Rudeus himself has the same opinion and was paranoid about his own children being reincarnations
he didn't read the LN
There's actually an explanation for that in Volume 15 and 16 I believe
The Dragon God told Rudeus (from the future) that "Rudeus" never existed in his timeloops. The actual "Rudeus" actually died in the womb of Zenith. The isekai'd Rudeus soul then occupied the body of the "actual" Rudeus. So technically he just made use of the life that didn't exist before.
Apologies for the poor explanation, it's been a while since I read them.
noooooooooo it's not the RIGHT soul that possessed my kid's body during birth
Cope. I'd be kicking it easy with my genius son from another world and watch my legacy grown to legendary proportions while your loser son wages for my offspring.
It's still your son.
Souls are made up.
Did reddit tell you that? Your soul is what makes you, you.
It only counts as your kid if it’s a new consciousness learning and growing with you.
Rudy is a fucking alien stranger living in my dead son’s meat suit.
Consciousness / memories then.
In which case, Rudy isn’t even a reincarnation but a mental clone, and the original neet died
Go to bed, Wu Chao
How did you know my name?
Everyone knows of Wu Chao the failure, who drags his family's legacy through the mud. Who failed to achieve Xiantian and spends his days getting drunk and fucking peasants. Just because your son is the greatest gigachad that accomplishes everything as if heaven is bending over backwards to accommodate it doesn't mean he's not 'your son'
Just go back to bed and wait for him to take over the clan when he's done cultivating.
maybe a more graceful transition then "wtf i'm suddenly a fully conscious and aware grown man now stuck in a newborn babby's body who can only shit and suck nipples?"
Like past life memories gradually returning and starting to make more sense as they grow up and some level of confusion between whether their past life was real or just some sort of mental delusion.
Some gross old man from another reality came in and inhabited the corpse of your stillborn child while pretending to be him
You say this like it's not still horrifying. It's literally just some framing away from him being a villainous abomination.
Do retarded or braindead people have damaged souls?
In a deal with the devil, would such souls be worth less?
sees babby sitting calmly reading an atlas and books on history, politics and science
"haha how cute he thinks he can read..."
It's another bait thread for a power fantasy insekai novel/show so people can go on rants against imaginary antagonistic posters episodes
Don't you people ever get tired of this tsunderebehavior? You wanna discuss this show, manga, right? Why can't you ever just make a thread stating that the purpose instead of playing little games like this? Or, are you actually after such time wasting self validated rants and the show/light novel is a simple vehicle for that purpose? I just want to understand.
I don't recall asking.
mom said I'm an old soul though
How could your son be dead if he's a reincarnated soul? There's no predetermined soul that is your son, the only thing you would give your son is half your genetic code.
Realistically he'd just be thrown into a well or left in the woods to get eaten by wild animals because they'd assume he was a changeling or possessed by an evil spirit
he doesn't know about soulgenes
Anon, look up the concept of reincarnation from Asia. The concept is simple, you died and you drink some magical soup that make you forget everything in your past life aka becoming a pure soul then you reincarnate into whatever and if it is a human again then that is that. Meaning your soul could be that of a fat otaku just like Rudy was in your previous life base on Asian reincarnation belief. There is also a myth that if you somehow can avoid drinking that magical soup, you will retain your previous life’s memories.
Just smother it and try again.
Do you think you can just create new souls, anon? Welcome to the wheel of samsara
OH BOY WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS OBSCURE RELIGION CALLED HINDUISM
how would you react to learning your "son" was actually a middle aged pedophile?
"Based"
That's just Buddhism.
Sarina was still a kid when she died so she's okay I guess, but Ai deserved real children by me
Shoot him and you want to know why memories of past lives usually get wiped? This is why. Society would cease to function overnight.
Society would cease to function overnight.
Good.
No more free ride. This kid has been pretending to be a kid and leeching off my hospitality when it could be more independent and maybe work.
I'm definitely trying for a new kid
There's magic and shit you really think they would care he's reincarnated
If I knew that it wasn't actually my son but instead a fat pedophile loser in his late 30s who hijacked the fetus inside my belly/wife's belly I would probably smash his head in with a rock. I'm not even kidding.
Orsted outright says in the anime that Paul is supposed to have 2 daughters. The son is always stillborn.
There are plenty of case studies where people lose major functions of their brains and/or big portions of their memory and they still revert back to their original personality over time. Apart from the spiritual interpretation we can also acknowledge that there's plenty we don't understand about our brains and how exactly they retain and process information.
Is Rudeus the most unlikeable protagonist in recent anime? He must be at least top 5.
that magic maker kid was on the verge of becoming detestable for me as soon as he made that stupid face
He's probably the most likeable protagonist in the last 5 years.
Anime Rudeus is watered down though, LN rudeus is a beast. Though I guess he would be too much for normalfriends when he goes full schizo mode.
true, brown people for SEA really love him
We already tried to get you to post your hand but you didn't post your hand.
MT is for white people only it seems.
He's the in my Top 5 most likeable in recent years. Honestly, I don't get why retards have to push in their morals or whatever in my anime. All the hate Rudeus gets is from "muh pedo" which is honestly irrelevant to the series or plain disingenuous from braindead shitposters, especially when you think about it there's a lot much worse depraved characters in the anime sphere
Thwere are several series that use this trope, burt (You) have to pick MT for (You) fishing.
There are several Isekai, or "i reincarnated as a villianess" examples.
Also
In some asian religions, souls are recycled, so I suppose this does not clash with their idiosyncrasy / theological structures.
There is a saying in my countrty
"Buscarle chiches a las viboras"
"To go looking for tits on a snake"
It refers when some people partake in unnecessary pickyness just to troll others and / or justify one's position. This thread adapts into that mindset.
Rudeus wasn't bullied hard enough. Imagine being a smug cunt about not being a fat slob cunt anymore due to some rando's whims. Piece of shit could have fixed his life but instead he chose to be a burden on everyone around him. Fuck him.
The weirdest part about it is that after you see then call Rudeus a pedo, you'll next see those same people laughing at the usual anime lolicon memes and glorifying it ironically calling those shows a masterpiece
No, your inability to shoot fireballs tells me that. Until one of you believers can perform supernatural feats it's all just Anon Babble tier mumbo jumbo on par with horoscopes and crystal healing.
to me was when he pushed and insulted his only friend who was trying to help him
Fuck him
Yeah yeah, Fatdeus pre-isekai was unlikeable. We all know that. You missed the point.
Rudeus is detestable. It wouldn't be nearly half as bad if the show didn't insist on expressing his inner thoughts in that obese tub voice.
It's generally confusing why you need to make a fantasy series like this into an isekai.
Like what does the reader get out of generic fantasy scenario where you have to be reminded the guy is actually an obese jap neet who has nothing interesting to say.
Spirit circle does a pretty good job handling reincarnations. Fuuta experiences his previous lives and is influenced by them, but he's his own person.
If he had studied and got into a normal highschool instead of a delinquent school things would be different.
If he had not pissed off the school banchou things would’ve been different.
Had he not become a shut in things would’ve been different.
Had he not lost his last friend( which he remembers during Paul reunion arc) things would’ve been different.
Had he attended his family funeral(the siblings might’ve given him part of the inheritance instead of catching him red handed fapping to loli porn) things wouldn’t have ended up with him having no fortune and ending up homeless.
What MT simply showed was that if you miss so many opportunities to fix your life you’re gonna get checkmated one day.
If you manage to get that second chance don’t waste it.
Care for your family
Care for your children.
Raise your children and set them on the right path to ensure their success. Marry them off to influential people if need be for the sake of your House.
Connections>Nakama power
Not everyone you meet you have to make into a nakama but connections are important they’re directly connected to getting you wealth and into an influential position being alone no matter how powerful doesn’t work in human society as no matter how powerful Oldeus got he would get stomped. And he did eventually fail.
Connections>cultivation
And a bunch of other things but MT at the end of the day is simply an entertaining story as it’s meant to be without author trying to preach anything.
and it isn't even that relevant
Only when nanahoshi appears does it start being somewhat relevant
Its extremely extremely relevant albeithoughever
how?
Every thread someone asks the same thing lol it affects a lot of things starting with mana calamity which was directly caused by Nanahoshi arriving in the six-sided world.
As different from Rudy a living being with a physical body was being transported from another world, enormous amount of mana was needed to hatch her from that red sphere and finally she hatched using up the mana of the surrounding region to achieve that thus causing the devastation of the fittoa region in the process aka mana calamity.
Rudy was lucky as just a soul seems pretty easy to transport without requiring much horsepower.
As for why Nanahoshi was summoned
it's because she was close to Akihito her boyfriend she was arguing with in ep 1.
This Akihito was a target of certain someone opening a time space rift to pull him in.
Nanahoshi and Fatdeus who were near Akihito got pulled in as well. However Rudeus due to being hit by a truck and being very close to death didn’t have his body transported like Nanahoshi instead his soul got caught.
Fatdeus achieved artificial reincarnation, as Rudeus and this is the main factor why a lot of things change in the Hitogami vs Orsted autism war which completely changes the direction the world will head into.
To continue Hitogami can see the future of the person he chooses. 100% up to the smallest details in most cases of course there are exceptions like he can't see Orsted who has a counter against that.
According to Orsted the more apostles he controls the more his future sight becomes vague, he mostly uses that power to constantly observe his own future which is why his apostles are currently limited to only 3 but he can have much more if he stops watching himself and expands more power.
Because of this ability he can also control fate to a certain extent like with controlled chaos theory, he can't control the chaos it's chaos but he can make specific pushes in critical junctures and change peoples pre determined fates to his advantage and effect major events that way via a butterfly effect.
1st Turning Point Nanahoshi arrives in the six-sided world causes mana calamity, ports Rudeus, and suddenly Hitogami sees himself getting defeated by Orsted and how? He sees Rudeus's descendants/children helping Orsted.
This is when he first discovers Rudeus and this is when he starts interfering and basically its from this moment forward that Rudeus will have to toil a lot to survive as Hito after using Rudeus to an extent(him being an isekaid person has certain effect on various events which were pre determined) is planning to get rid of him and his family,