How come the ubermensch-wannabe femboy had loads of followers?
Orochimaru
ubermensch-wannabe
he didn't give a shit about "will-to-power" or leading by example. rochi just wanted to learn every jutsu and never die.
and its not exactly hard to get followers when you're a start-up in a competitive war economy and your pitch is "I have all the best ways to kill people and if you serve me I'll share them with you"
chadrochimaru was the most based character in that lousy show
eats children in his basement lab
is forgiven completely in the end of the show
wow just like real life deep state pedo cultists
Wasn't it implied that most of his followers were groomed into following him?
Why did Naruto allow ninja Mengele at his wedding?
He freed himself from Konoha's tyranny
He was strong as fuck
I wish we got more of young Orochimaru.
only way to be sure he won't pull a maleficant and crash the party is to put him right where he can keep an eye on him
excited active guy
gloomy serious guy
girl
This is literally every team in Naruto.
Isn’t that the whole point? They’re suppose to show alternate ways that Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura could have turned out.
aizen
tried to kill god or something
tied to a chair for eternity
orochimaru
experimented on children to achieve immortality
attempted to usurp the country of sand
and assassinate the hokage
and yoink sasuke's body
pretty much given access to the post-war shinobi world and make his own village
we're cool with that right naruto?
mfw when got deus ex machina'd by itawank Smh my head
He was possibly the strongest ninja (if you count his ability to perform edo tensei) in the original before the author decide to make him a jobber for the new introduced cast of antagonists.
People who care about "will-to-power" or leading are not Übermenschen but loser posers. Übermenschen are just doing their own thing, consequences be damned.
This. Naruto is a show about the strongest and best killers. Orochimaru was a fucking monster
Dont think this is even debatable, even after the intro of other antagonists. The end of the series is literally the edo tensei vs everyone. Orochimaru is smarter and stronger than Kabuto
well yeah that was implied by OP "wannabe" adjective, that OP thinks he was actually trying to be nietziean philosophy manifest
In terms of raw ninjutsu mastery I'm not sure there's anyone else who really is comparable, he didn't have any kekkei genkai and lacked special stuff like sage mode or whatever, but dude knew how to do basically every jutsu ever
His tai- and gen- jutsu seemed more or less not much to write home about, but then again we didn't ever see him with his actual fucking arms or anything so who knows
They’re suppose to show alternate ways that Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura could have turned out.
Is it really necessary for LITERALLY every single team to do that, though?
Kishimoto 1. doesn't know what a female is and 2. isn't actually that good at character dynamics, though it's insane how he's still better than some other authors hacka
I only remember Obito, Rin, Kakashi and Jiraiya, Tsunade, Orochimaru having this exact dynamic.
Rin should've lived so the Coolest Guy could be a cuck
God the dialogue in the final chapters was so fucking out there
He’d just find his own Hinata like Naruto did if she never died.
Nah I meant more like Chidori shouldn't have killed her outright
Ofc she would've needed to not have gotten sealed with the cat but w/e
.... by becoming a tranny
That really wasn't the intention outside of sannin and Rin Kakashi Obito trio. He just did an oopsie because whole fucking konoha 12 are carbon copies of some shade of Team 7 dynamics.
Orochimaru becoming a milf just goes to show that he was built different from the very beginning
I just like the implication that the male-female ratio of the ninja academy is exactly 2:1
Female characters in Naruto are overhated
Nobody hates the girls except Kishimoto
He only hates Tenten, he did a good job with the others. Better than Oda at least. There are few anime with that many memorable female characters that aren't cumbait.
Everybody blames orochimaru for being a pedophile but nobody holds up Mei for slavering after a 16 year old minor. Double standard
Hiruzen knew a Fuinjutsu he didn't know, and was said to know all Konoha jutsu.
I meant in general but yeah Hiruzen was also goated
Jiraiya was pretty up there with him. His toad stuff was cracked beyond belief and was surprisingly versatile. He was holding his own with Tsunade and (crippled) Orochimaru while poisoned.
It's really just that Tsunade is garbo