One Piece

Whats next for garp?

O-ODA-SENSEI!!! PLEASE LET ME WIN FOR ONCE!!!
MEGUMI-DONO!!! PLEASE GIVE ME THE WIN IN ONE OF YOUR FILLER EPISODES, I BEG YOU!!!
TOEI-SAMA!!! A NON-CANON MOVIE AT LEAST, GIVE IT TO MEEEEEE!!! LET ME WIN... LET ME WIN... LET ME WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is this the one?

Zoro's husband (male) - Luffy
Zoro's wife (male) - Kiku
Zoro's husband (female) - Law
Zoro's wife (female) - ???

Loki sexo....

pixiv.net/en/artworks/128984005

Rape by Vasco Shot

Why are you guys like this?

Can you fucking morons not split your general every single time? Every other day I see three or four of your threads next to eachother on the fucking log

Sorry, I have terminal thread possession syndrome.
Some other symptoms include brown skin and mental retardation.

Zoro's POV

letting Luffy think he's the strongest in the crew but Robin knows the truth about the real strongest

Why is Zolo such a liability? Sanji matches him in strength, while also being useful as a cook, and doesn't get lost all the time like a fucking retard.

write a death scene

the victim survives getting killed

the killer lampshades that

What did Oda mean by this?

Luffy's rival...

POV

you tanked Nika's strongest pillow punches and then made Nika run away leaving his ally bleeding alone. But then you run into the strongest strawhat who heard his chef shittalking him

Cute bonbon

He's the ships cat.

mutts with anxiety and clout chasing

Why did Loki look up to this?

qrite a death scene

The entire point of kidnapoing Koby was to trade him and the entire point of getting Garp was to replace Koby. Do you read the manga blud or just look at the pictures?

Sanji...

even WB has gone back to being a silhouette

Why is this hack fraud like this

Usopp...

Kek, Sanji said that.

he didn't know it at the time but being beat up turned him on, he secretly wants to be brought down and violated

His lungs are impaled in that image, how the fuck is he even alive?

riddle me this, why does he wear the kippah?

Ok but that's quite unambiguously a death scene, saru-kun.

People meme about Zoro, but Usopp is the most favored SH in movies at least. He was the second most important SH after Luffy in both Stampede and Red. He also got a few goodies in Gold, including taking down a miniboss. All while doing nothing in the manga in the timeframe.

failed to take out a SINGLE blackbeard pirate, including the nameless fodder

This is supposed to be a Roger level marine? KWAB

Normalfags and NPCs found it impressive how Garp punched fodder for a couple of minutes just to do no damage to no one and job Kuzan and Shiryu who were using like 2% of their power

Why don't CD rape and impregnate someone like Stussy, Kalifa, Hina, Tashigi?

Is being a Marine/WG worker protects you from that and that's the benefit about working for them?

How? He got pierced a bunch, its one piece, getting stabbed is like another sunday

based on performance against the seraphim's this is irrefutable

I'm harassing the shit out of Ishitani on X

based

HAHAHAHAHAHA

These abominations call themselves gods

She been seething

Whats bullshit is that Galaxy Impact didnt kill everyone except Blackbeard's commanders, I mean it fucking leveled the entire island.

not reading that shit

Venus cut the interest rates NOW!

Non-canon

Nothing protects you, Stussy should have been a CD cumrag ages ago, the reality that she doesnt age would make her extremely popular with CDs in general. A fem slave that took your virginity and now you are watching the same happen to your grandson, just beautiful.

the manga version is practically the same but with Nami bumped down to Seraphim fighter

Zoro to King: I've made a promise to my captain and my best friend.

Was he using both terms to describe Luffy, or was he also including Kuina?

We respect CD women

Will the flashback be considered controversial?

We haven't seen many CD women. Doffy's mother seems nice and there's Sharlia

it just destroyed a couple of buildings at best

Women love rape stories, its why the nip fanbase loves this flashback so much

I hope they decide to kill Sanji off the anime.

old guy saves his protégé at his own expense (age-old trope)

then is impaled with a huge spike through the torso (certain death for 99% of people)

lays on the ground laughing with teary eyes (c'mon now)

respective impaler has tears run down his face (and freeze)

chapter ends

Anon, are you serious? This is a death scene in every sense of the word, every single one except for the technical outcome. It's the exact same as when Saul got seemingly killed by Kuzan (the same guy, wouldn't you know), with the sole difference being that Garp was revealed to be alive much sooner.

Military women aren't attractive.

It's like Fairy Law, it only targets the unjust.

Shanks is the prettier twin

on one part, sanjitards are taking a cartoon WAY too seriously, it wasn't even that bad, Sanji already saved Nami before hand and Toei even added some blatant SaNa shipperb8 for him, second, they are acting like Zoro negdiffed the seraphims when he really just fended them off for Kaku, they were then apparently captured by Nami, but I don't hear anything about "gassing up Nami" just seems like Sanjitards are selectively butthurt about Zoro

on another, the animators do deserve some criticism for some outlandish liberties they have taken, though for me personally I generally PREFER that the anime would take liberties and be different from the manga providing a fresher experience so it is what it is to me

Why are they so dishonest?

Oda killing characters

lol lmao even

What about Ginny? She was a freedom fighter

Shit this might've been too big brained for current /opg/.

The Penis™ disagrees.

this looks like a fanmade post TS design, they used to give EVERYONE a beard

It makes zero fucking sense in the context of the story. The point was to replace Koby with Garp to strike a deal with the WG. The overall story is the point, now whatever the fuck your feelings are about the encounter

Irrelevant. A death scene is defined by its content, not by its outcome. Having character survive a death scene is just a faux pas if there are no previously established precedents for it.

Who the hell is Kuina?

I'm looking forward to the young Garling fanarts when he appears in the anime

facts are feelings when you disagree with them

Hypocrite

This, just look at how handsome the rapist is
western women will flood xitter with GinnyXGarling fanart after the flashback airs

I am just sticking to the story and ignoring whatever the fuck your feelings are in regards to the scene, that doesnt make me a hypocrite, just dont give a shit about your headcanon

Whats next for garp?

paying back to Vasco somehow

Some scenes like Sanji not being in the group shot is silly to criticize. He was moving in the manga unlike the others, and he got his own separate scene afterwards. Also don't care about the heart eyes.

However i genuinely think there's some clear bias with Toei. Some of the clear evidence for this is the Onigashima eye-catcher with Zoro surprising Sanji with a sword, Toei giving Sanji way more silly faces when he didn't have them in the manga, and changing Marco saying "Here comes the stars" to "Here comes the star" to give Zoro alone a badass intro against King and Queen, literally taking it away from Sanji for no reason.

youtu.be/EtchxlfaWak?si=sWUdsqf056rUZNW0

i don't like garling

Garling would be over 50 when Ginny is kidnapped...

I like the songs for the new opening and ending. I dislike that they both focus heavily on Bonney.

all Fakerland frauds are equally lame characters that will get clapped by Loki's sheer aura once he's back in business

yeah, is lame how they are making him act like how he was in FMI when he isn't THAT simpish now

This is karma for using anime filler for their agenda.

it would be pretty funny if he ends up as a slave for Blackbeard

Fairy Law is genuine hax

haki

the criticism is justifiable when the filler most of the time is in that direction rather than

Goyrp stops Rocks for realizing his dream

ends up as a slave boy for BB who idolizes Rocks

Kek

I wish it were me

Without context it looks like Ulti is comforing P1 after Yamato raped him

Shamrock looks menacing..

lucky bastard

no because she would be headbutting Yamato

maybe she did

How Zorofags sleep knowing Sanjifags are getting the worst break week of the year

led your kids to the flames so they can melt

she is just misunderstood

kek it does

is not even that bad, xtards are just sensitive as hell about this shit, like Sanji barking for Stussy is entirely in character and it was funny

What do you think of Franky's new voice?

I dont care, because i dont care about franky, brook or jimbei in general

Zoro looks good in his new outfit

he fits the design, just had a lot of lines that don't really require a strong delivery judge much, it is offputting how he doesn't even try to sound like Yao while Nu-Kizaru does try to sound like the original, also is offputting how young he sounds when he is one of the older crewmates

Reminder that Oda already canonized Luffy x nami and they had a child

she has trauma hence the lengthy description and desensitization

*Without context it looks like Yamato raped both of them with her huge futa cock

True.

This confirms that she has a child guro fetish.

I like the eyemask.

Ironically enough, based on Franky’s design, his voice is exactly what I expected Franky to sound like when I first started watching One Piece, because the Bon Clay voice took me by surprise. It’s gonna take a good long while to get used to it, though.

get raped by STACYmato

She just stands there in the background like Ahh thta was fun while your cuckquean big sister tries to save face

Fucking hot

He's shit but I'll pretend like he isn't to make people seethe

Sanji straight up asks to be her dog in the manga. It was the most natural extension. But they don't like his gag so they seethe. Same with Bonney. Oda sexualizes her throughout the arc in her adult form, having Sanji heart-eyeing her is expected (would he even know her real age at this point in the arc?). But they're looking for "agenda" everywhere.

Why do arabs love Mihawk so much?

No. The funniest ending for Garp is him getting sold to Cross Guild, by Blackbeard, just so the Marines can launch rescue mission ala Marineford 2.0; where Tsuru, Sengoku and SWORD all mobilized with the Seraphim to take back Garp and crush Cross Guild, only for it to end as a massive ploy by Imu to nuke Cross Guild's location, which results in the World Government killing Garp, Tsuru and Sengoku in the process--with all three dying, while seething about the World Government, along with Sakazuki who loses a several fleets worth of Marines. Cross Guild actually gets away with no causalities, other than losing their hideout and the Gorosei just pays Morgans off to spread misinformation and York churns out new Seraphim to replace Garp, Tsuru, Sengoku, etc.

Why are there female rapist pirates other than Linlin? You would think Alvida would grab cute boys and fellate them on the spot at a whim. I mean piracy is the freedom for a woman to be as whorish as possible since the only guys around you are coomtards who couldnt give a flying fuck about virginity or plurity.

I personally blame the Japanese voice acting industry for still sticking to the same voice actors who are going into their fifties, sixties, even seventies of age. A lot of young talents end up receiving bottom of the barrel roles and won’t get anything substantial for over a decade or so.

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I posted it again, someone will give me a (you) this time!

this would mindbreak coby and akainu and only benefit deluded faggots who think akainu will be able to rebel against the world government one day

The Holy Bums have no chance. They'll fight Gaban, Dorry, Broggy, and Midhats. Luffy, Loki, Sanji, and Zoro will show up soon. Do you think Gunko will call for reinforcements or a Gorosei will show up?

why ordinary people has not rebelled against the CD's yet? I mean, they are evil as fuck and have the WG on their side, but in terms of numbers, I'm sure ordinary people have waaay too much against them

Dragon you incompetent fuck

in the anime it looked like some thick blackbeard fodder woman was about to rape Koby actually

Nah.

Do you think Gunko is the final joiner?

Yes. She's going to be the new tagalong post-Elbaf.

Random John Doe punches a Celestial Dragon on Sabaody

Kizaru immediately comes and lasers his liver out of his body

That's why.

Yes, that would be hilarious, but Koby the HERO will save him increasing his legend

The actual raeson is that the lower world is a bunch of shitty islands while the CDs are a continent.

what movie are they watching

He sounds alright but he needs to try a little harder for that SUPAAAH tone that Yao gave Franky.
Then again it's only been literally two episodes and none of the lines so far given to him were really special. I'm sure he'll deliver down the line.

puts the giant pirates to sleep

pulls real strength Loki from their dreams

I just fucked Ginny again ;)

why do we not just overthrow all the governments and billionaires

Ass question

Luffy and Kuina.

Saint Jalmack...

whoops

OY SENGOKU, I HEARD OL' GARLING GOT HIMSELF A NEW SLAVE WIFE! SHE'S ONE OF MY SON'S FRIENDS TOO! WHAT A COINCIDENCE! BWAHAHAHA!

If Gunko manages to outplay Jinbe next chapter, it's actually over for you doubters.

Marco saying "Here comes the stars" to "Here comes the star" to give Zoro alone a badass intro against King and Queen, literally taking it away from Sanji for no reason.

Did the anime really do that?

WIT will not only be better than Tori, but the treatments will be less bias.

When Loki is healed he will appear to stomp the Holy bums

However i genuinely think there's some clear bias with Toei. Some of the clear evidence for this is the Onigashima eye-catcher with Zoro surprising Sanji with a sword,

Is Oda biased for the scene where Zoro pulls Enma on him at the cliff?

Toei giving Sanji way more silly faces when he didn't have them in the manga

You're working under the assumption that "gag = bad" which is retarded for a series as comedy focused as One Piece. You may argue they run jokes into the ground which is fair (but to be fair, so does Oda), but don't act like it's some anti-Sanji agenda. They just use his pre-existing characterization.

and changing Marco saying "Here comes the stars" to "Here comes the star" to give Zoro alone a badass intro against King and Queen, literally taking it away from Sanji for no reason.

It's the same word in Japanese, that's a translation issue. The scene literally ends with them attacking together.

yes can confirm

Will Shamrock lose his arm against Loki?

I’m sorry Garp-chujo, but Garling-san officially recognized Blackbeard-san as the sovereign king of Hachinosu, meaning he’s legally allowed to keep you as a slave… I can’t let you escape with the rest of his slaves and save Luffy-san… SLAVERY IMPACT!!!!

We think Garling sucks!

We don't care.

Loki will keep getting nursed by Luffy's group until the Holy Knights fuck off on their own.

Zoro is a pathetic first mate for Luffy. He's a generic swordsman that just slashes at people and needs Oden's sword and haki to barely survive fighting a YC1

You will when it's superior.

Do you think they'll manage to kidnap the children with Brook?

WIT will get cancelled after the first 100 episodes or so. Netflix doesn't have the money to throw around that it used to on meme projects.

Zoro is the first mate because he took Luffy's virginity.

When you think about it, The One Piece team is composed of people who grew up with OP with no veterans on-board. If anything, expect more character-faggotry creeping in.

One zero too many

Why is Luffy's observation haki shit? Doesn't he notice that Elbaf is burning?

WIT will [headcanon]

Done.

a reminder to stab your local edgy kid

They do rebel with the Revolutionaries starting rebellions across multiple kingdoms. The problem is that Imu would rather watch those kingdom's be destroyed then let them be independent like Lulusia

hot

Zolo is the first mate because Luffy took his virginity

Hes in an entire different realm blud

Sanji is the Second Mate because he took the First Mate Zoro's anal virginity.

300mil base 3 sword Zoro was as strong as combined Yonko attack

HOLY FUARK
I can't imagine just how strong current Zoro is in Asura + KoH + CoC

You would need 8 yonko to match 1 current Zoro

COPE. Nobody wants to watch pre-time skip One Piece with better animation and shittier voice actors.

stab any edgelord who stabs kids

I think Whitebeard is actually saying

WTF you actually used a weapon on that weak jobber Captain? One of your toenails should have been enough

I can confirm these are both true, I was watching

Zoro's moves' names are retarded

Is Zoro still on par with Luffy?

Their kid would have top-tier genetics

Someone edit that panel to make it sound like Xebec raped Shotaki

Nobody [headcanon]

Done.

shittier

Modern Zolo is literally soulless compared to East Blue and pre-TS Zoro. The WiT adaptation will be totally revisionist and remove all of Zoro’s goofy moments.

You don't keep pirates like Prime Big Mom, Prime Whitebeard, Kaido and Shiki in line by being a normal pirate captain.

No, Zolo surpassed him during the timeskip and Ruffy still hasn't quite caught up yet

Someone please care about my fetish

Shut the fuck up

Why did Zoro sacrifice a child to save his own ass?

He inherited Xebec's will

making love to Hancock belly button

what does it feel like?

all those pirates got stronger the moment they left Rocks’s crew

“prime”

sometimes it works

someome beat prime Rocks + prime Roger + prime Shiki

I cant imagine only Roger and Garp did that

COPE

Done.

admiral clone vs KEKnko

Luffy looks adorable with that big helmet and cold blush.

Clestial genes

Elbaf and Wano are already independent. Imu is a pussy.

You think Big Mom got stronger after getting pregnant dozens of times? Whitebeard was in his early 30's when he was on Rocks crew.

Done.

COPE

I decided to play Pirate Warriors 4 again since it seems to be getting updates still

But I noticed Bonney is literally the only Supernova who isn't playable. Like Urouge is playable but not her. Kinda jarring

Ginny was 39 when she passed away. I’m sad for her, but this is Oda’s propaganda to marry and procreate with millennial women.

… and I AGREE with it.

Funnily enough, back during Film Gold interviews you had VAs complaining Zoro and Sanji both had their balance broken with the former becoming too serious and the latter too goofy. But that's how old people see it. Bulk of TOP team seems to be people in their 30s. They did admittedly grew up with the old Zoro, but might have still been the target audience during the Nuro's reign. The question is what they liked about him.

Nah, she looks more like her mother. She doesn't even have her father's eye color.

Bonney has no moveset

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But Ginny did procreate

Zoro is actually stronger than Luffy currently. I don't know why Oda makes Zoro so fucking powerful.

The Holy Bums and Gorosei are weak!
Even Jubidara can solo them all.

you think Big Mom got stronger after utilizing the very fruit that literally gives her a longer lifespan and higher strength some more?????

Yes, dumbass.

Garling was there. And Rocks Pirates had no loyalty to begin with.

At the time, there was no way to make an accurate moveset for Bonney. But I think once the anime gets to her Nika powers, they can let her be playable

Cute budding relationship

Circular conversation. Facts aren't feelings, and if you refuse to address the facts then I take this as a concession.

Show proof that she was stronger in her later years than when she was still young and fit.

And Shanks lost his arm to some fish ,despite sailing with Roger for years. Nothing in this story makes sense. No proof they got stronger

Get him past Lucci first

Like a kid with its pet

he

Bonney won so bad

One Piece doesn’t fucking operate in your logic, we’ve seen her literally power up by consuming a portion of a strong soul (her own) to fight Law and Kidd. She also grows bigger in size this way.

What the fuck is his problem?

milkers

Boa is one of the strongest females in the entire world

Reminder that Zoro almost died fighting the weakest YC1 and needed Oden's haki and sword to carry him. Pathetic!

Zoro and Robin have had sex before haven't they?

Luffy and Loki will fight against Dream Shanks and Rocks...

No proof

I accept your concession

psycho looks up to another psycho

It's not rocket science

Yes. But not with each other.

I don't speak Nipponese so can't 100% confirm, but a lot of people have been saying it, and I assume the Crunchyroll dubbers wouldn't get it wrong either.

youtu.be/BMtJwQX7ObE?si=9hGnAfkbdez6UOFJ

It's not particularly jarring. Prior to Egghead, Bonney's combat abilities were never shown and the most she did was just changing the age of others. It's hard to make a Musou moveset for her.
Urouge at least has abilities that they can easily mold into as a playable fighter

He hates women because his wives will never love him.

Robin only fucks fishmen like Jinbei, not twigs with micro dicks like Zolo

But not with each other.

Luffy lucky

Also I'm reading again OP. How the fuck did he infiltrate in Mariejois without anybody noticing?

These years I almost forgot about him but I still think (or want) that he will be an important piece of BB Pirates. I honestly can't remember the last thing he did alongside being with Shiryu going to somewhere. It's like Van Augur acquired his role.

Zoro never fought Katakuri, speedy.

He's not a pussy like Dragon

These years

Imagine being autistic enough to realize shit like this, kek

His voice fits if you're a manga reader who has never watched the anime for some reason.

Zoro was weakened before that fight brainlet.

King is the weakest YC1 and it's not up for debate. That bum had no CoC, no awakened fruit, no advanced CoA or CoO and his fruit was so shit that he was more powerful in his base form than his hybrid. Katakuri > King.

what i did wrong

He was clearly talking about Marco speedy

Doesnt he have wings? Probably just flew there and then hid his presence.

they were both drunk
they definitely did it once with each other.

He got a magic serum from Chopper to instantly heal all wounds. He was 100% before that fight started, dummy.

He's literally the Number 2 of the crew

inb4 colorspread

Doesn't matter. Lafitte outranks the rest of the commanders as the Chief-of-Staff. He's just not Zoro-fodder.

It would be funny if they just copy pasted Luffy's moveset onto her since that's how most of her attacks ended up being

h-he meant to say the strongest I swear

Pathetic.

No he wasn't. That serum didn't bring him up to 100%.

the strongest

in retardland

The things Luffy could have if he'd want them...

zoro isn't fodder though

Explain what you believe that serum did. Chopper clearly stated it would heal all of his injuries

number 2

Nigga Kuzan is there, hes a top tier

Lafitte has some power that grants his wings, plus he has hypnotism.

Definitely the most interesting BB pirate. Some interesting theory videos on Laffite around, some even saying he's the true mastermind behind Blackbeard, that he was part of Rocks', and that he faked his death and is a lot older than what he looks based on his real life namesakes, the pirate Lafitte brothers etc.

Someone strong is coming...

I meant he's not just there to be bonked by Zoro. Whichever BB Oda would have placed there would create the expectstion of being Zoro's opponent.
Strength-wise, not authority-wise.

What revived the hype?

NTA but even better question...Why doesn't the revolutionary army have any high ranking soldiers amongst the marines, WG, and the 4 emperors?

Moles in the marines and WG would be an insane help in terms of intel gathering, assassination and blackmail. And having them in the 4 emperors ensures they can keep the places they liberate but can't reach safe from pirates, as well as save pirate infested, unaffiliated countries, and it also makes sense to have connections in the new world

Chopper's inventions aren't perfect.

COPE

i forgot the names but can someone tell me the names of the supernovas that we know of?

Reminder that Kaido in base 1 shot Luffy after Luffy defeated Katakuri on WCI. That means that both base Luffy and Shanks could 1 shot current Zoro. Zoro is fodder

You're the one coping here.

That means that both base Luffy and Shanks could 1 shot current Zoro.

actual retardation on your part.

Quality anime discussion.

because Dragon is an incompetent fuck

Because they literally don't have men to spare. Revolutionary Army isn't that big of a force. Probably the only people that could get high ranks in the other organizations are already filling thr high ranks of the RA itself.

Did base Kaido one shot Luffy who was around YC1 level?

His subordinate has an op teleportation ability that he never utilized. What do you expect from Luffy's father and Garp's son? He's retarded

Zoro is also around YC1 level.

Doesn't matter, Anon. They are all evil! They deserve no redemption!

All CD males and females must die!

Current Luffy> Kaido. Therefore base Luffy should 1 shot Zoro

He believes there exists something like YC1 level or Yonko level. As much as it pains me to say it, that poor soul is beyond help.

Who cares about an east blue tier villain like Kaido.

Are you dumb, Anon? Garling is a disgusting rapist and genocider! No woman would be attracted to that.

He believes there exists something like YC1 level or Yonko level.

There clearly is, speedreader. You don't become pirate king by fighting random's

Luffy needed ton of help to win against Kaido desu. It wasn't a fair fight exactly.

Therefore base Luffy should 1 shot Zoro

This delusion doesn't work.

Yeah but Luffy now starts with gear 5 instead of getting his shit pushed in

I dropped One Piece over a decade ago while reading the Skypea arc
Is there a summary I can read somewhere to get me up to speed to continue reading from there? Because I tried starting all over again and it's drag to read about characters I already know won't matter in the future

There is 0 indication of an Admiral showing up.
There also won't be more knights coming nor Shamrock.
We already had Gorosei last arc so no way they will come again.

Why not? Luffy learned CoO, advanced CoA, learned how to coat his attacks with CoC and awakened his fruit. All Zoro has done post-time skip is gain Oden's sword and haki. Zoro would get 1 shot

Literally just read wiki.

You have no idea how many Rapist Shanks fanfictions or yandere Shanks fanarts there are...

You're ignoring everything else Zoro learned. Luffy isn't oneshotting Zoro. Get off his plastic nuts.

I love how both Zoro and Nami ask their Captain Luffy before doing anything

anime people are so much better than talk to than the manga only spergs

What has Zoro learned? All he did was gain Oden's sword. He's a bum

How tasty and nutritional is her milk? Is it enough to make their children grow strong? I must know!

Joiney

Saturn won

Ask Celestial Dragons. They milked her for years.

this
reminder that we hate the cuccaneers here on channel 4

Monkey D Dragon is a bad leader...

I expected Dragon to show up on Egghead to save Vegapunk because he's important.

I'm disappointed by Dragon's humanity. He sacrifices his comrades and doesn't try to save them.

They look like gangsters

Nah Luffy is the bum. He ain't oneshotting Zoro.

Vegapunk (Shaka) quite literally called him to tell him he's planning to die.

I don't think all halfbreed CDs like Bonney are thrown out.

I could imagine a CD being possessive over their slaves and children even if it's just out of vain attempt to control their lives.

Nigga the Kamabbaka kingdom is located in paradise, shit would take a month to get to Egghead from there

Kuzan didn't go all out and certainly not for the killing. Garp is the one who trained him after all desu. And Kuzan has feelings.

Well he IS the captain.

The WG should've send Kizaru, Greenbull and Fujitora to subjucate Elbaph.

3 HKs are not enough.

The CHADmirals should be more than enough to do the job!

...in your fanfiction zoroach.

Who are the Super Rookies?

Bonney was thrown out because Ginny was. I'm pretty sure the status of wives and children is dependant on the husband's whim.

Based.
Keep seething Shitfyfag. Your boy is weaker than Zoro.

Luffy returned from the time skip stronger than Zoro
Luffy's post time skip upgrades: future sight, advanced CoA, coating his attacks with CoC and his mythical fruit awakened
Zoros post time skip upgrades: Oden's sword

Current Luffy one shots Zoro and the gap between the two keeps getting wider

Bonney WON

Carrot, Tama, and Yamato LOST

The funny thing is that this isn't even Nakamawar memes or anything anymore, it's simply the truth at this point.

G5 sucks Luffy dry way too fast, he needs to improve

I wonder If this will become a problem for Luffy in the future, like HxH with Gon-san

Anyone who reaches Sabaody for the first ime with bounty 100M+.

Yes. The holy bums don't take their mission seriously. They didn't care that a lowly fishman burned Mary Geoise and stole the slaves.

They didn't care that the Revos attacked the reverie and destroyed the food supplies.

He's enjoying life with his trannies

The WG should've send Kizaru, Greenbull and Fujitora to subjucate Elbaph.

yeah and let the WG headquarters and Mariejois alone kek

how dumb are you

ngl,
if Oda was a good author, he would have an arc where either Zoro becomes the captain or leaves the crew.

Zoro being so much stronger than Goofy and collected having all the qualities of a captain that Goofy lacks but Zoro is forced to be okay with following a retarded weakling like Goofy by the author does not sit well with me.

Zoro vs Akainu would also be better since at least Zoro is actually strong and can put up a good fight unlike Goofy who needs constant saving and food by the enemy.

Luffy returned from the time skip stronger than Zoro

Not really. They're on par with each other.

Old Rayleigh>>>>>>>>> current Zoro
Prime Rayleigh casually murders current Zoro

Luffy and Zoro are among them. Essentially it's those who's bounty exceeds over 100 mil.

How much science does Garling know?

lol the cope you Zototards need to tell yourselves. There wasn't a single moment in the entire manga's run where Zoro was ever on par or stronger than Luffy.

>The WG should've send Aokiji and Akainu to fight each other in Punk Hazard

yeah and let the WG headquarters and Mariejois alone kek

wait that actually happened, huuuuhhh

I agree that Zoro is too strong to work under Luffy at this point. He really should form his own crew since Luffy and the others are holding him back.
Rayleigh gets mogged by Zoro so badly it's not even funny.

honk

Maybe he needs to rush and defeat his enemy before it runs out

Old Rayleigh = 500 times all the Sabaody Supernovas (including Luffy and Zoro)

Current SHs = 100 times Sabaody SHs

Old Rayleigh casually murders the entire crew.

What does Rayleigh got to do with this conversation?
btw Goofy literally said that he now is as strong as old Rayleigh
meaning that current Zoro is MUCH MUCH stronger than old Rayleigh

Rayleigh can use future sight, advanced CoA, and CoC. Zoro only has Oden's haki sword. Rayleigh is a better swordsman than Zoro

Bonika vs Gunko is the destined fight

Yeah Rayleigh is too busted.

no diffs your fav

Rayleigh was the first mate of the pirate king and a swordsman. Zoro is Luffy's first mate and weaker than Rayleigh in every way. Rayeligh is better swordsman than Zoro too

Rayleigh only exists to lose to Zoro.

Nice cope bro.

Rayleigh is 80 years old. It would be pathetic if Zoro doesn't surpass him some day.

Bonney is so beautiful, legit one of the hottest women in one piece

OG nika was a swordsman

Xebec was a swordsman

Imu is surrounded by swords, 100% a swordsman

Aramaki black blade master

It's crazy how much Oda glazes Zoro being stronger than these guys in the futurte

Wouldn't you know, that's exactly what pirates basically are. Interestingly enough, there are noticeably more gangster-themed pirates in One Piece than actual pirate-themed pirates.

anybody can win when you create a definition of winning in a game that no one even knows exist

Zoro is already on par with Luffy so it's only a matter of time.

Akainu is the only character Zoro won't surpass

FUARK

Factual

Zoro is already on par with Luffy so it's only a matter of time.

In what universe is he on par with Luffy? The dude almost died fighting King.

no he's not, Gear 4th at best

Zoro is a main character so naturally he will surpass those guys. He's destined to be the strongest.
Zoro is definitely going to surpass Akainu.

Can't surpass the strongest
but Zoro will be close 2nd

Cute and canon!

He's definitely above Gear 4.

This. Egghead and Elbaf are showing a gap between the two. He only stands more of chance due to using swords. If he can actually manage to cut Luffy.

Kizaru and the Holy Bums were there

In what universe is he on par with Luffy?

He isn't
Zoro is much stronger seeing how base Zoro 1 shot Lucci

The dude almost died fighting King

Goofy couldn't handle 1 Seraphim with Lucci's help
meanwhile Zoro 1 shot 2 Seraphim (and the one that Goofy failed to stop)

This. Luffy needs Gear 5 to fight a serious Zoro.

what feat has Zoro done that patches Gear 5?

what If Ginny was Virgin Mary and Bonney is Jesus?

shitcock with the strawhat

pfffhahahaha

Kek

Luffy defeated a Yonko
Zoro needed Oden's sword and an asspull CoC upgrade out of nowhere to defeat King and almost died doing it.
How are these two on par?

fights two world wars

jobs in both

Why is anyone afraid of this fag again?

Luffy needs Gear 5 to fight a base Zoro.

fixed that for you

Why do you guys love Jinbe so much?

Carrot is teal

Only if Sanji loses one of his legs

Cope LoroArab!
Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent cuz BB is the final villain!

Therefore, Shiryu >>>> Mihawk!

Luffy is approaching Roger level
Zoro is embarrassment of a first mate that is inferior to Rayleigh in every way.

Carrot is cute! CUTE!

he only fought in one

Zoro doesn't really have a transformation though

Nah

orange fruit, orange veggie

Luffy defeated a Yonko

after Zoro did all the work of tanking attack of 2 yonko and scarring Kaido

Zoro needed Oden's sword and an asspull CoC upgrade out of nowhere to defeat King

Current Goofy can't even beat a cheap King clone 2v1

and almost died doing it

He didn't
He 1 shot King
The rest was the meds that DOUBLED the damage from 2 Yonko's attack

How are these two on par?

They aren't
Zoro is far stronger than Goofy

Just see how the author treats Zoro's power being sacred and rarely used
meanwhile Goofy is spamming his because he is weak

So handsome.

Holy F-FUUARRK! Dorry & Broggy are t-too strong!
I kneel!

Zoro's birthday numbers

checked asf

Luffy is approaching Roger level

Then i guess Roger level is so weak he can't beat Lucci

Zoro is embarrassment of a first mate

Agreed since he hangs around his goofy captain while being far stronger than him

for celestial use only

Loki bites of Shanrock's arm

Sanji eats his leg so Colon doesn't starve

Zoro breaks his neck falling off the stairs after giving Tashigi a peptalk

Nami gets thrown into a dungeon

Why did Garling allow his granddaughter to be enslaved?

Not WB's penis though, he's the only pirate Oda explicitly said wouldn't allow female fighters on his crew (even though he used to have Whitey Bay for some reason)

Zolo bluds getting uppity

Do I understand correctly? Ginny was experimented on when she was pregnant and Bonney inherited Sapphire Disease?

find the difference between Robin and Hancock

wtf is this jargon

I just caught up with the manga why the fuck is el hermano canon now? What is oda doing??

'fraid so

Kuinas panties off - kuinas panties on

t. animeonly

Enjoy the deception while it lasts

crashing this plane...

not blood related, not his problem

Nah, Shamrock has an edge over Shanks because he wasn't introduced when Oda's art was more simplistic.

Oda is trying to convince the suits to let him take over Dragon Ball. It's essentially a pitch for the next Super arc.

Zoro doesn't really have a transformation though

Speedy....

Prime Rayleigh: Future sight, advanced CoA, CoC, capable of keeping up with Kizaru and punking Blackbeard
Current Zoro: basic haki, Oden's CoC sword and almost died fighting the weakest YC1 King.
They are not the same. Zoro is an embarrassment of a first mate for current Luffy

Old Rayleigh*

My wife

This desu, plus the SWORD members crying and the whole "save a baby instead of an old man" flashback in the same chapter. Way more death flags than either Big Mom or Kaido.

thats not a transformation, he literally just does it for one move, is like saying the gorilla biceps are a transformation

this is why Oda gave Robin her hairstyle back

Almost dying but never really is his main feat.

What tf do the Holy Bums even do? Why did Oda create them in the first place?
-Why weren't they at Marineford?
-Why didn't they protect MJ from Fisher Tiger?
-Why didn't they protect MJ from Emeth 200 years ago?
-Why didn't they stop Kuma from climing up the Red Line?
-Why didn't they stop the revolutionaries from raiding MJ? They were not inside Pangea Castle either to protect Imu

These lazy shtters have 0 purpose to the story. Why are they relevant now?

Shamrock is kino

Pretty sure Kuina was the "best friend", although it's ironic to think Zoro considered a girl whom he had a ZoSan-esque relationship with to be his best bud. It would be nice if Oda would show even more flashbacks of his childhood with Kuina.

want evil shanks plotline

but don't want to make Shanks evil

BOOM identical twin

He gets to have his cake and eat it too.

thats not a transformation

does his form change, yes or no?

he literally just does it for one move

yes because he doesn't require more
he ends it in 1 shot

That's why asura has many attack names just like diable jambe
it just doesn't stay as long because Zoro 1 shots every opponent he uses it on or with kaido it was his last stamina

is like saying the gorilla biceps are a transformation

That's him flexing

filler, One Piece really could've ended a lot earlier with proper pacing but is whatever, more One Piece for everyone

They're a royal guard under the Goroseis order. I guess Saturn and co didnt see it necessary to deploy them for all the other cases untik shit came to thus point

Shanks will fight his brother in the final war. If he fought anyone else then Shanks would win too quickly

magical Carrot

Who can stop GODmu if all of these niggas jobbed to him?

This

This

He's just Evil Shanks with two arms and longer hair.

He hasn't done much so far...

Anon, that's the future where Imu get's defeated

Peanuts Carrot

based and going with the flow pilled

This literally one-shots Kaido

Shiryu >>>> Mihawk

This

It feels like we do but that's bcause of all the fujo shitposting

Carrot loves you

Anyone has the webm of York about to be raped?

Twin brother dynamic is always kino in my opinion, I hope Oda explores it thoroughly

next in line to get clapped

It's still crazy how Shiryu just casually overpowered Garp's haki and stabbed him cleanly through

No wonder Shiryu is stronger than Roger
and Mihawk will be even stronger than that

One of the most memetic crew members

Gunko is Bonney's half-sister btw.

It's still crazy how Shiryu just casually overpowered Garp's haki

When was this? Garp didn't coat his body in haki like Vergo or Pica.

I said before that I would be for it if Shamrock was a cheesy opposite of Shanks like he hates liquor and is straight edge and he hates parties because is loud and prefers something more elegant or something

Most people in one piece dont have Kaido/Big Meme type body apart from Topman in animal form.

He did

haki is invisible

he knew the invisible enemy was coming

people called him "iron Garp" meaning that it's because he's as hard as iron due to his haki on his body

Confused daddy dynamics

haki is invisible

Why wasn't it invisible for Vergo and Pica?

Garp was called "iron Garp" meaning he does have their durability with haki on

Karasu

Badass soot logia

Lindbergh

Boring tubrovirgin Usopp ripoff

Belo Betty

Dime a dozen turboslut

Morley

Fat freak

Sabo is pretty cool and so is this Karasu fella.
How come the rest of the revs are such losers?

if Carrot was intendo to be a CP0 agent would Eleclaw technically be a Shigan technique?

visual effect I guess

what's your autism about vergo and pica?

is Garp vergo or pica?
Did Luffy never use haki on the roof for self defense?
Did Kid and Law never use haki against Meme?

Go spam your autistic cope elsewhere

Lindbergh

Usopp

Nothing in common desu, he seems more like a scientist of sorts

Spamming Carrot every day won’t make her relevant

admit it, this had a lot of potential as a running gag like Rukia used to explain things in cutesy drawings

Seconded

Usopp ripoff

How did he rip off Usopp?

If that was the case, why weren't they deployed at Egghead? All the GoroBUMs showed up but a single knight.

Everyone considers revolution a lost cause (without Ancient Weapons at least) and learns to function within the system one way or another (that includes the pirates). Only outcasts among outcasts join RA.

When haki is used it turns the users body part or weapon turn black. It's not autistic cope if it proves your headcanon wrong, schizo

See this the fucking problem Kaido and Big Mom created with speedreaders. They now think every top tier should have their levels of durability. Kaido and Big Mom are huge exceptions to the rules, they are inherently BIOLOGICALLY durable to a huge degree. You people need to realize that Don Krieg could easily kill Garp or Shanks if they were caught off guard, since they're normal humans at the end of the day.

NTA but how come Sentomaru never goes black?

I guess is for the technology but Usopp using his inventions stopped being a thing a while ago

holy fuck
we have youtube commentator here.

The guy who doesn't read the series but just watches the clips

Is that Shanks little shit of a kid in episode 1123?

INCELmu

Defeating ANYONE fairly

Guarantee you this cuck pulled off an Orochi and defeated Joyboy through underhanded means. Also, Imu is NOT a woman, stfu WGcucks.

B-bu-

No. Oda won't make Imu a woman, keep coping.

We only learn Apoo used haki to defend himself from a shigan after the fact. Same for Hyogoro surviving Big Mom's attack.

Lindbergh

The man has a jetpack, a laser gun, a freeze gun and can use Sulong. He'd body Ussop in seconds.

.....

Kaido and Big Mom are huge exceptions to the rules, they are inherently BIOLOGICALLY durable to a huge degree

They aren't.
They just have passive durability unlike characters that need to apply haki

Kaido only has 24/7 durability thanks to his DF giving him passive scales
Meme has haki around her body 24/7 but once she goes autistic mode, she loses her haki durability and gets injured eaisly.

Luffy for example is much more durable than Kaido when applying haki since he tanked all of kaido's attack before he even reached his peak
Garp and other top tiers are also much more durable than kaido and meme once they use haki.

So anytime someone that can use CoA get's stabbed or cut that means that they coated their entire body in haki and their opponent bypassed it regardless if their body turns black?

*not even a single knight

believe

Yes, you autistic retard.

But Oda never draws haki used for defense that's why 99% oda doesn't draw haki on luffy tanking kaido's attacks for example

Kaido only has 24/7 durability thanks to his DF giving him passive scales

Meme has haki around her body 24/7 but once she goes autistic mode, she loses her haki durability and gets injured eaisly.

Speedreader.

green hair

Figarland genes are weak...

You Goofyfags are delusional

What did I speedread?

Yes. At that point everyone does it instinctively.

But [headcanon]

Done.

failed to take out a SINGLE blackbeard pirate, including the nameless fodder

SERIOUSLY. You forgot about Wolf defeat?
Even Shiryuu was humiliated by him.

Oda is really stupid,someone fodder can stab WB with spears

Soon they will fall.. Dofy said it.

Kaido got captured by the marines and they weren't able to execute him. He's also tried to kill himself and failed.

Big Mom's durability is natural and she was able to take out an entire village of Giants without taking damage. Bege's rocket launcher also did no damage to Big Mom even with her in a crying state.

headcanon?

can you point Luffy using haki for self defense here?
or is he tanking Kaido's attacks without haki?

is this true?

Goyrp is so fucking stupid, killing Kuzan would fuck over Marshall's operations big time

Can you point out Luffy using CoA to protect himself in his fight against Katakuri when he never learned advanced CoA? Luffy just tanks blows unless stated otherwise. Done.

They aren't.

They just have passive durability unlike characters that need to apply haki

Yes because they're inherently more durable. They both have ACoC so they're are objectively quite a bit more durable than the likes of someone like Shanks', even if the latter could beat them in a fight due to greater Haki.

Kaido only has 24/7 durability thanks to his DF giving him passive scales

Now this is horseshit, Kaido doesn't have scales in base form. 90% of Kaido's durability comes from his natural body, the Dragon scales are only the cherry on the top. The only reason Luffy could keep up with him hit for hit was because Luffy has massive blunt durability himself due to his fruit. Luffy genuinely lucked out with Kaido not using a sword desu.

Meme has haki around her body 24/7 but once she goes autistic mode, she loses her haki durability and gets injured eaisly.

It's made explicitly clear that Big Mom is a fucking freak of nature. Her durability is natural and has nothing to do with Haki. Haki just makes her even more durable.

Luffy for example is much more durable than Kaido when applying haki since he tanked all of kaido's attack before he even reached his peak

Again, he kinda lucked out.

Garp and other top tiers are also much more durable than kaido and meme once they use haki.

Absolutely not. I'm actually baffled someone would think this

it was pretty nice to see Franky and Vegapunk vibe with each other

Kaido got captured by the marines and they weren't able to execute him

doesn't mean much when they are fodder marines and tries to execute him with guilotine
That's like hoping to kill logia with hakiless spear

He's also tried to kill himself and failed

once again, doesn't mean much when he did not use haki or anything
logia user or diamon jozu can do the same and come back with no damage from falling

Hell, the guy from skypea survived the fall from skypea to earth with basically no damage

Big Mom's durability is natural

It's only natural haki, retard.
That's why once she loses her consciousness when she screams, her durability disappears.

this scene was mad funny

Sanji took S-Sharks arm

When was this? Are Sanjitards just making shit up out of nowhere?

...what?

How many swordsmen are canonically stronger than Mihawk at this point?

Vista
Nusjuro
Shanks
Garling
Shamrock
Fujitora
Law
Shiryu
S-Hawk

You can even extend the list to guys like Oden and Bogard if you're willing to go to past characters

So THIS is what peak genetics looks like...

In every fight, either pre-time skip or post-time skip Luffy has gotten his ass beat and he tanks blows. Now you're claiming that he's been coating himself in haki this whole time when there no proof of that. Therefore it's all headcanon. Done.

spoilered

This scene is months old

The WSS title was meant for the World's Seventh (strongest) Swordsman all along

Cope and headcanon

KEK

no idea, first time I heard that, but Sanji did send him flying which was nuts

Yes because they're inherently more durable

they aren't.

Now this is horseshit, Kaido doesn't have scales in base form

Yes he does.
That's why after fighting Kaido's base form in Gear 4 in act 1, Luffy later says he couldn't injure Kaido because his scales were too tough

Kaido's scales are passive just like Luffy's rubber form.

It's made explicitly clear that Big Mom is a fucking freak of nature. Her durability is natural and has nothing to do with Haki

Fucking retard, why do you think she loses her durability once she screams?
She injured her knee just from touching the ground that's how fragile she is

Again, he kinda lucked out.

no he didn't.

Absolutely not. I'm actually baffled someone would think this

stronger haki = stronger defense
easy as that

doesn't mean much when they are fodder marines and tries to execute him with guilotine

If it was a normal human with a Devi Fruit trapped in Seastone, like Doflamingo or Whitebeard, fodder Marines would absolutely be able to kill them with a guillotine. Seastone weakensnDevil Fruit users Haki too.

Kaido got captured by the marines

Oda outright spelled it out that Kaido let himself get captured as a child to get free food, we don't know of a single time when Kaido didn't let himself get caught on purpose

LMAO
go ahead and claim that kid law luffy never used haki against yonko just in order to protect Garp from looking like a jobber from Shiryu

I am fine with making yonko look like jobbers too

can't refute

concession accepted

Except it was never said he was seastoned handcuffed, retard.
And it was never said that it was marines who tried to kill him

lmao, keep coping ShankKEKs!

WSS >>>>> All other swordsmen

Oda isn't retarded enough to create swordsmen stronger then Mihawk. Otherwise, what the fock is the point of Zoro's whole character?
Mihawk is Zoro's final opponent, cope and seethe.

do you consider Wano and Onigashima seperate arcs?

I'll believe in Mihawk as soon as he proves himself
any day now!

now when did Shanks beat Vista?

they aren't.

False and you really can't have read the story if you pretend otherwise.

Yes he does.

That's why after fighting Kaido's base form in Gear 4 in act 1, Luffy later says he couldn't injure Kaido because his scales were too tough
Luffy didn't mention scales, show the page. Kaido obviously doesn't have scales in base form, both visually and logically

Kaido's scales are passive just like Luffy's rubber form.

Nope

Fucking retard, why do you think she loses her durability once she screams?

She injured her knee just from touching the ground that's how fragile she is
Cartoon logic, retarded faggot, Oda needed some plot device to make Bege asassinating her plausible. It's ONLY Mother Carmel's picture that puts her in that state, not depression in general. 5 year old Big Mom managed to beat Giants multiple times her size, she's obviously a freak of nature. She was born to normal humans yet is bigger than Buccaneers.

no he didn't

Kaido's air slashing attacks easily cut Gear 5 Luffy and Kaido even commented on how he's still vulnerable to cutting attacks, dumbass.

stronger haki = stronger defense

easy as that
Oh so Sanji didn't get any durability buffs from his German gene Awakening lmao? Or how about CP9's Tekkai? Haki is not the only power source, retard

Marines quite literally would not be able to keep Kaido captive if they didn't use Seastone, retard. And why the fuck wouldn't they use Seastone?

Yamato LOST

Meanwhile reality:

Admirals would quite literally not be able to escape Galdino's wax if they weren't Devil Fruit users.

I second this.

she said this meanwhile she never sailed with the crew as a pirate ever

Luffy didn't mention scales, show the page.

pic related, you speedreader
this is him after fighting Kaido in act 1 and he only mentions his scales because that's what prevented him from beating his ass

And remember he only used G4 against base Kaido

Nope

Yup

Cartoon logic, retarded faggot

LMAOOOO, straight up lying and denying the whole plot of WCI just to deflect being a speedreader

You are a bitch of the highest degree.

Kaido's air slashing attacks easily cut Gear 5 Luffy and Kaido even commented on how he's still vulnerable to cutting attacks, dumbass.

of course because he did not use haki to defend himself there lmao?

Oh so Sanji didn't get any durability buffs from his German gene Awakening lmao? Or how about CP9's Tekkai? Haki is not the only power source, retard

Holy fucking shit, you mongoloid
nowhere did I say haki is the only powersource, I said it's the strongest, you illiterate faggot.

And btw tekkai = haki, speedy.

If you want to call it that.

if he was in seastone he wouldn't be able to escape, retard.

NAH. She will stay in Wano.
For this she has a WANO DEITY DF.
Also Ulti&Page will probably start working for her soon.

Never happening.

That was an Egghead chapter flashback one of the few to get it (when someone else really needed it too) with Marco that ensures she's still aiming to be the crew's Oden.

this is him after fighting Kaido in act 1 and he only mentions his scales because that's what prevented him from beating his ass

Obviously talking about his Beast form, speedreader-kun. He didn't fight his Hybrid form yet.

LMAOOOO, straight up lying and denying the whole plot of WCI just to deflect being a speedreader

Says the speedreaders lmao. Nowhere did it say anything about Big Mom's Haki being weakened, retard. I guess by your logic Garp has greater passive Haki than Big Mom, yet he got stabbed by Shiryu, somehow? How did that happen, please explain lol?

of course because he did not use haki to defend himself there lmao?

HOLY COPE KEK. Why did he choose not to use Haki the one time Kaido used a cutting attacks? Why did Kaido comment on how Luffy is still weak towards cutting attacks? XD

Holy fucking shit, you mongoloid

nowhere did I say haki is the only powersource, I said it's the strongest, you illiterate faggot.
No retard, you said Kaido and Big Mom's durability only comes from their Haki and Devil Fruits, faggot XD.

And btw tekkai = haki, speedy

Jinbe called Who's Who's full body Haki Tekkai, yes, but that's honestly a retcon, originally it was a muscle thing.

We don't know what transpired in all those times he got captured. Not even who managed to catch him. Not like Luffy hasn't been trapped in Seastone multiple times.

Obviously talking about his Beast form

Why?
He only used Gear 3 on beast form

Why would he assume he couldn't deal damage with Gear 4 to Kaido if he never used on his beast form?

Kaido is a regular oni just like Yamato, you dumbass. They don't have durability.

Meanwhile Momo gained durability just like Kaido and is tough now even in his human form because he has Kaido's DF

too lazy to naswer the rest since thread ending

we know that he got himself captured on purpose retard
which means he couldn't escape if it was seastone

and luffy never escaped seastone wtihout being saved by someone

Why would he assume he couldn't deal damage with Gear 4 to Kaido if he never used on his beast form?

Probably because his fucking beast form is more durable than his base? This is quite obvious.

Kaido is a regular oni just like Yamato, you dumbass. They don't have durability.

Big Mom is a regular human! Some people are born way stronger in One Piece.

Meanwhile Momo gained durability just like Kaido and is tough now even in his human form because he has Kaido's DF

Momo was literally stated to be tough due to Oden's genes, retard. What drugs are you on to pretend he has scales in his human form?