What's the worst example of "anime/manga with interesting premise that it immediately squanders and/or ruins" that you've seen?
What's the worst example of "anime/manga with interesting premise that it immediately squanders and/or ruins" that...
alot of harem shit has this.
99% of shield hero hate comes from the fact that the plot features a fake rape accusation and you're slaves to FOG (foid occupied government)
Yet to find one that finished strong off the great idea of being the villainess.
bakarina is literally the best otome anime
The hate for SH comes from people that can't tell the difference between fictional characters and real people. Also S2 kinda sucked.
Any high schooler arranged marriage story that doesn't have the newly married MCs be forced to consummate the marriage right away
bakarina is literally the best otome anime
Could be, but it has so much more potential than what was delivered.
I think I just like evil women.
Yeah, and the other 1% comes from the fact that it absolutely squanders all of the interesting premise it had set up by the end of the first season.
The Shield is a fundamentally supportive item that does little damage, making Naofumi have to depend on his allies to do damage? lmao now he has a demonic rage shield thing that does more damage than any other item.
Naofumi's pariah status forcing him to work with the dark and seedy underbelly of society? lmao nope he just leaves town and becomes a traveling merchant and odd jobber in the rural villages where people don't recognize him.
Naofumi has to fight for people who actively hate him and think he's the antichrist? lmao no, anti-Shield Hero church destroyed and Naofumi completely absolved by the queen and declared a hero by the end of the first season so now everyone loves him
Naofumi having to deal with being the least of the four heroes? lmao no, as mentioned above it becomes clear that the Shield makes all the other hero items look like fucking jokes by the end of the first season
I think it declined after he stopped being the Capitalist Hero that only worked for a reward. Also all your points are valid.
They should have turned naofumi into the new king.
From hero to royalty.
probably Shield Hero honestly, consequently. It's my lowest rated show on MAL
Raphtalia shouldn't have aged up to teen until Naofumi himself aged up to looking late 20s or mid 30s
Full daughteru only
Shield hero is pretty weird. It feels like nobody are watching them anymore after S2, yet they're still making them. Same thing with Blue Exorcist, Slime, and Arifureta. Re Zero feels like falling off as well, though not as bad as Shield Hero.
Wonder where they got the funds from.
Frieren
Shield Hero only have one season, everything after is non canon.
I'm still mad about To your eternity, hack author carried by kyoani
That zombie show that tries to trick you into thinking it's a CGDCT SOL in the first episode
arifureta
My favorite guilty pleasure read. I don't think I could stomach to actually watch the anime from the few clips of QUALITY I saw
from producers that think it'll be successful
The anti women shit ceases after the first arc
99% of twitter hate*
The actual hate for shield hero is how fucking overly edgy it is in everything it does.
anti-Shield Hero church destroyed and Naofumi completely absolved by the queen and declared a hero by the end of the first season so now everyone loves him
Let's not forget his punishment to woman who made those accusations "bitch" instead of an execution. Just so he could act like a smug piece of shit calling her a bitch as often as he wanted. Which more than anything, shows he's no less a piece of shit than the rest of the cast.
Honestly the kirito hero is the least terrible human in the cast, because at least all his errors and mistakes are due to his character having negative IQ and not any vindictive personality. At least none of them are as bad as the spearfag whose personality gets thrown out the window to be replaced by him just wanting to fuck the bird loli to the point they made a spin-off series about it.
Thankfully it didn't get a season 2 because what got animated was the only decent part.
healer one was worse.
It went from revenge with a bit of rape to him forming his own fucking harem that he "loves and cares" for.
Shield hero at least lasts most of season 1 before it throws in the towel. Healer shit gives in after 4 episodes of rape.
Because these shows all put their best stuff in S1 to hook you in, S2 and forward are usually adventuring/exploring crap that the author shoves in to milk it.
immediately
It wasn't immediate, it took several arc before Malty was taken care of.
That was corny as fuck.
what potential?
There wasn't any potential beyond "sheld guy seeks respect among the kingdom in different ways"
Once that's done there isn't anywhere left to go with the story.
yeah if anything it's the opposite, it's a simple premise that they kept continuing after it already ended.
Re Zero feels like falling off as well, though not as bad as Shield Hero.
is this your perception after season 3 or are you caught up with the web novel?
I haven't read the novel, but I'm curious as to why you think this
I honestly think season 3 is the best so far because it still kept the weakness of Subaru but also gave him the status of being trusted so others who could fight his battles
If your initial attraction to the series was because it was fascinating to see a lone man suffer and triumph without resources, then I think even season 1 let you down with those expectations
The people implicitly trusted him after the White Whale hunt and was willing to lay down their lives to fight the Witch's cult. With Wilhelm, one of the strongest swordmen in history clearly showing gratitude
Someone mentioned it earlier in the thread, but the expectation that someone else has to fight for his battles while he is the defender who tanks the blows was definitely the initial pull of the series
Throwing that away threw the premise away
FUCK YOU GONZO! You fucking ruined this. The manga had great fights in the 1st series and EPIC fights in the 2nd series. And you're piece of shit anime removed all of them. FUCK YOU!!!!
is this your perception after season 3 or are you caught up with the web novel?
Not the anon you were asking, but I agree with him. Not a novel reader. For me, the direction of S3 was off-putting from the first episode just because of how rushed the pacing felt, like they were trying to cram as much material in as possible. My perception is that either the source material was hopelessly cluttered with side characters and subplots at that point, or the director was indifferent to optimizing the story for a different medium. Or both. But I admit I haven't finished the season, so maybe I'll also appreciate what you see in it character development-wise.
I really hate the slime anime, it gives priority to the manga and just straight up does whatever the fuck it wants ignoring the source. Then that gay ass non canon movie whose characters got hamfisted into the show as a "HEY LOOK IT'S THESE GUYS FROM SLIME MOVIE™ it's totally canon now even though it's not in the novels!" All the focus on shizu and even rewriting things to make that dumb fucking mask seem important and trying to tie it to diablo. Fuck the slime anime.
I think this is definitely what you're looking for
Maybe not the worst but I've always thought the concept of "Everyone has personal netnavis they can fight with powered by grades/personal attributes of the user" was a really good premise that felt kind of wasted on an ecchi comedy.
it's like megaman battle network, just really really terrible.
I'll be blunt: if episode 7 of season 3 was not something you enjoyed, then I don't think this series is for you
side characters
You are not mistaken, but imo the series wants you to treat the side characters as not just that when they are on screen
The story starts with the MC treating this as a game to an extent, even calling Beatrice NPC when Subaru first meets her
But in the end, he is almost as powerless as the average person in this world. And only through humility does he even survive day 1 (by calling for help and summoning Reinhardt in the alley)
this shit was always mid at best
You may have reading comprehension issues because I said interesting premise, not potential.
baka to test
Honestly all I remember are the Tsuneyoshi jokes and the fact that they are in class-F (or E?) because of bad grades, and that one girl was flat as a board and the other pink haired girl with breasts was someone who fell sick a lot
I'm genuinely struggling to remember anything else
I can't even recall any fights
2 yakuza families engage their 2 kids into a forced marriage to settle their differences even if they don't like each other!
oh boy I bet this show is going to be hilarious and wacky as fuck just like seto no hanayome or ranma! I love wacky comedies where the families keep forcing them into crazy situations until they eventually start liking each other for real! (with lots of gun-fighting and punching in the background!)
and then the show entirely drops that premise and it just becomes a generic harem where MC just blushes at girls and the yakuza get entirely sidelined all-together even the tomboy butler "super assassin" barely if ever, does actual butler super assassin things and becomes another girl to blush for MC after her first introduction
Basically every single "reincarnated as the villain" or "go back in time to before mc got killed" manga. It all seems to devolve into op mc with harem.
In concept yes, but them being powered by grades and heavily based on the user was an intresting gimmick imo. It could be like battle network meets jojos.
Just so he could act like a smug piece of shit calling her a bitch as often as he wanted.
I thought it was because queen didn't give her okay for an execution and protag settled for what he could get.
This was actually the 2nd anime I ever watched, rewatched it recently and it holds up surprisingly well compared. The fight system was okay but I don't know if I would care that much
The anime really watered down everything. In the novel naofumi was foaming at the mouth to have them killed. But the queen was begging him to spare them so rather then look like an asshole over a live broadcast he gave in and just went with that dumb punishment instead.