Lazarus

Didn't Jason DeMarco make Watanabe make a "Cowboy Bebop 2: Electric Boogaloo"?
Originally he planned this sho wto be more like Space Dandy but DeMarco just can't get his head out of his ass long enough to think about anything but making another Bebop.
I love Bebop too, but not everything has to be that. But what you can expect from the American side of things I guess.

I'll watch this eventually, when I know its actually done and I'm not downloading the beta test instead of the final version.

Doug being a rizzless poser is a bit of depth.

tl;dr

good action

good OST usage

bad writing (ep 2 and 3)

good sub

mid dub (Axel’s VA sucks)

4th episode is a highpoint

how?

After the previous episodes no, it's... boring. Probably gonna give it a try again when it end later, maybe.

Just dropped it
Watanabe is such a one trick pony it's embarrassing

Cowboy Bebop 2: Electric Boogaloo

I thought that was deshartco's original plan for SD, but Watanabe stuck to his guns and made something original, by hiring younger key animators to run wild and direct their own episodes

Not anymore

I'm still eager for it to be great but so far it feels like a show that I'd only watch while it is airing right now. I don't hate it it's just kind of basic. Also the Cowboy Bebop fanservice is kind of jarring at times

I didn't even realize it was out. I'm less likely to now, since people seem to be giving it a lukewarm reception, but one of my friends who loves Bebop wants to watch it, so he'll probably drag me into watching it.

Yeah. Looks to be a slow burn. I’m letting it cook as the zombies say.

Also the premise of the show is really stupid. Like laughable, but I’m giving it a chance to redeem itself.

All I know is in a recent interview he specifically said that Lazarus was going to be in a similar vein to Space Dandy, but Adult Swim requested something more similar to Bebop.

Replace the vibe of his most soulful work to fit the more marketable one

Don't get me wrong Cowboy Bebop is still amazing but fuck man I'd love to see something from him closer to the vein of space dandy if this show doesn't deliver on it's own I'm just going to be pissed for the rest of this watch-through knowing this

The thing is all the bebop similarities are pretty shallow. They both feature a jazzy sound track but the type of jazz is pretty different. MC looks like spike and fights like spike but in terms of characterization they are almost total opposites. Even the tone of the show is closer to SD just not as comedic and experimental.

There was a scene in episode 3 where a literal troon and the black guy had a conversation about how discriminatory society is towards them. That should tell you all you need to know about this show.

anons forget how much the board hated Space Dandy when it initially aired

Space Dandy is one of the best anime ever made.

I liked Space Dandy even when it aired. So far Lazarus is a toss up at this point for me especially given that it's a linear story. It can be amazing, alright, or shit. I like 4c and all but I don't go here to get my opinions from a collective

You could reply to my analysis on each episode but you decide not to, maybe there's nothing to defend about this show, and no I don't like jazz in any sort of fashion.

Im watching it but very passively because dumbasses I don't like love this show

The troon said "If anyone knows anything about leaving the past behind its me. If youre here to start shit because of some history you can fuck off." The black guy then said "I just want to say thank you." How discriminatory society is towards them was only the context of doug's story and had nothing to do with the point either of them were trying to make. Also, Watanabe has had the same exact tranny is literally every show he's made.

it is
doesn’t change what the initial reception was like on Anon Babble back then

for me it didn’t reach true kino until pic related

NTA but they do have gay shit in Lazarus where the dialogue is
"Hey you look different I haven't seen you in awhile"
"I became transgender"
"woah that's awesome!"
And then they do have Doug dialogue in that same episode about how he was told by a UNIVERSITY PROFFESSOR OUT OF ALL PEOPLE (In the year 205X btw) that blacks couldn't achieve anything. It's retarded dialogue like this that is kind of a turn off. Not enough to make me drop the show or call it garbage or whatever but it reeks of American millennial writing.

I remember Anon Babble loving Space Dandy.

Watanabe is cooked bro
I think he just did this for an easy paycheck

Those of us who actually watched Space Dandy loved it. Those who didn't hated it because it technically aired first in the US dubbed which got a bunch of people worked up about it not being anime or something.

Poeple keep saying "no dude Watanabe always did this" but nobody posts the scene where Gren sat down and said "well Spike, I'm trans".

More than anything I'm just disappointed in how bad it looks. Truly 2d animation is a dying art, I won't be surprised if human made animation is completely gone in a decade or so.
Cowboy bebop is twice as long at 26 episodes though.

lol

UNIVERSITY PROFFESSOR OUT OF ALL PEOPLE (In the year 205X btw) that blacks couldn't achieve anything.

post-Triple Donald America

Yeah but in that same scene, just feet away, a Mexican was bouncing off walls and breakdancing across a basketball court. The show is silly, anons are taking it too seriously.

I've only watched the first episode. Did it go beyond "hey, remember Cowboy Bebop? That was pretty cool right?"

If you'd call idpol-fueled netflix dialogue writing going beyond, yeah

I am. It just happens to be complete dogshite for reasons that are both exceedingly noticeable at first glance when you watch the show, and tiresome to explain. Its main immediate issue though, is the fact that it has this unmistakable "modern Hollywood" action movies stench and flavor to it (from the constant quips to the way the action is presented and edited minus the awful camera work) that kills any possible good will one might try to muster for it. That, and the story's pacing is terrible so far. We're 4 episodes in already, and they have neither made any real headway in the manhunt plot nor in helping the audience learn more about the main "characters" other than superficial quirks and hinting at their backstories instead of actually showing them. I don't think I could name a single person from the show other than the villain whose name they keep repeating if you pointed a gun to my head. Also, the washed color palette is disgusting to look at, this is Watanabe's worst colored show since C & T. At least the OST is nice even if it's just Cowboy bebop lite. I dunno m8, Watanabe's always been a westaboo but that had never detracted from his work until now, and it really feels like he tried to please everyone by appealing to both modern action flick movie goers and his own audience instead of doing something he really wanted to do, and it shows terribly.

Honestly the worst thing about it is how desperately it's trying to be Cowboy Bebop.

I think the show is actual hot garbage but to its credit, trying to imitate CB other than by portraying a mildly dystopian crappy future and the MC having some of Spike's laid back traits (but shallower) and a somewhat similar fighting style, is one criticism levied on it that has no real basis. I don't really see any important similarities in tone, themes or storybeats aside from what I mentioned.

As other people have said, lots of people like it even from the start. Besides, Space Dandy's charm and identity was apparent immediately in a way this show just isn't. If you told me this show was written as a rejected plot for a spinoff of Marvel What If, I would believe it without a single question.

I don't like jazz

That's very sad

What is there to discuss? Guy did parkour. The end. Its as slop as battle shounen out there

Yeah, it's mid.

and no I don't like jazz in any sort of fashion.

Not even fussion Jazz? Have you already listened to Weather Report, The Miles Davis Band or The Aristocrats? That's sad.

No way in fuck would I watch a Bebop sequel if DeCucko is involved, or any Western company. After those four shitty FLCL sequels I won't bother to even give this show a chance.

he showed Faye his tits instead

DeCucko

Who the fuck is this please for the love of God even when faggots like you have a point your speech makes no sense

I refused to watch the FLCL sequels on principal. I torrented them, but still haven't seen them and probably never will. Saw the fuckin propaganda lines, and that was enough to just cut me off completely. FLCL was never meant to have a sequel anyway, and to see them try to push that shit after forcing one just pissed me off.
I hate how much AS/Toonami tries to get their fingers in anime. Half those guys think they "are" anime because they introduced a generation to it in the west. Its annoying.
I'll probably watch this at some point though unless I see some people showing that makes it clear westerners were in the writers room.
Jason DeMarco.
He made Toonami, and helped force shit like FLCL sequels to be made.

I like Watanabe's works but he's been inhaling too much of the west influence in this anime.
It's not bad so far though, the plot keeps you intrigued at least.

I only listen to lofi beats to study to sorry

I only listen to lofi beats

Jesus Christ. I hope that humanities/Psychology major is worth it. (I refuse to acknowledge a human being with such non existing musical palate is capable if studying anything else).

Miles Davis btfo'd youtube.com/watch?v=XxY2-331Gvc

its gonna take at least 5 more donald presidencies to root out the marxism in colleges

Sign me up

the animation is kinda choppy, isn't it?

Who is paying you to be an anti for this show?

i just watched the first ep and thought the animation was kinda choppy at some points

I don't hate it. It's fine. The story is moderately interesting and simple.

Most of the characters are just kind of blank slates even now, who knows if we'll get character development. What I'd hate is them giving each character a separate episode of development instead of just naturally having them develop as the story progresses, mostly because it's short. In cowboy bebop, characters DID get backstory episodes but that show had the benefit of length as well as the characters naturally being shown in the rest of the episodes, I don't feel like we've really gotten to know any of the characters so far, other than I guess Axel being a daredevil and computer girl being shy.

Story wise, it's an interesting premise but it kind of loses punch by being predictable. We all saw Skinner in episode 3, we know where this is going. Rather than hanging up the mystery of whether Hapna kills or not until later, the monkey scene in ep 4 seems to imply it does kill, so there's no twist there anymore. All that's left is pretty much a series of episodic random adventures that slowly inch back towards a destination we already know. In something like bebop or champloo, the audience had the benefit of not knowing where the destination is. In that sense, it was more fun to be along for the ride in an episodic fashion, because not knowing where or what your destination is makes everything potentially meaningful, or potentially not meaningful. They also had more time to develop and could waste time on episodes that didn't contribute to the overall plot. This series, if 13 eps is the correct rumor, is not going to have time to waste and will have to make progress every episode - which leaves me thinking they'll do a lot of "shove the revelation in at the last second" type endings.

Animation wise, ehhh. There's times where it looks great and times where there's too much movement when there doesn't need to be. I personally don't like a lot of camera movement in action scenes.

The show is all sorts of terrible but this episode was better. The nightclub action scene was very John Wick.

FLCL is propagandacized as a "good" anime by its cult following, just like Orb: On the Movement of Earth is propagandacized as "good" on Reddit. People seriously have shit taste. They only latch onto stuff because of the unique setup, not because the story and execution is good. Just look at how Garnt glaze that Orb show on YouTube. He only talks about the idea of the show surface level, acting like the idea alone makes it great, not how the story is actually executed (its shit execution).

FLCL is like the Butthole Surfers or Frank Zappa. Anyone who calls it shit will be met with "Too edgy and deep for you huh?" and then they assume that you only watch flavor of the month because only idiots think that the emperor's new clothes look bad or something. They have to assume you're a newfag/can't enjoy the stranger stuff or else their shitty narrative falls apart