I wish I was a protagonist girl in a shojo right about now

Well she cut his cock it's isekai work where men are oppressed, this crazy bitch is from the police

Truth, I hate this Anon Babble comparison that's always made for whatever reason.
Well, I know the reason, lots of loser moids on Anon Babble.

but they're ugly.

Sorry moid website

Agreed. Trans rights are human rights btw.

samefag lol

why are you defending redditanimecirclejerk brigaders again? is Anon Babble spam also fine?

They are both shit as long as they spam zeitgeist mandated same age relationships
I am so sick of it

reddit tier insult

real one

where is shoujo MMC X shounen FMC stories?

Not allowed.

I've never seen a shonen manga where the main protagonist looks like the guy on the right

Nobody gives a fuck about bleeding vagina shows. Women will never be relevant fuck out of here.

kinda looks like Osamu

open image with giant blocks of text everywhere

first fucking thing my eyes catch is “muh fuarking self insert!!!1” nonsense

Absolutely mindbrokenly rent free for another 12 years at least

this is absolute garbage but truth

Unfortunately rare, but some manga occasionally get pretty close.

Schizo

Only leftists and normalfags use this insult.
Eat shit, slice your wrists and neck yourself, faggot.

Yes, absolutely yes.
And your insecurities and puritanism are showing, so keep this filth to yourself, no one wants to know about this gross shit.

loser

Being some generic, mediocre wageslave is not epic success as you copefully believe it is, retard.

woman welcome ntr

In other words woman are whores.

in shoujo the girl always wins, ntr is just extra drama before winning harder than previously possible.

honestly if you're a woman, you get sexually assaulted, and you like it, you should just kill yourself. You're the definition of "ruined" and you don't deserve love.

white knighting can't change nature thats just how it works. sex is romance in its purest form. its where positive emotions come from.

Wait the guy in left is still taller than Takamine?

Stay delusional. A girl being aggressive to pursue a weak willed guy who does nothing will never be pure.

So both sexes want a dominant and attractive person of the opposite sex to rape them while they act all shy and defenseless?

This is fucked up. Picked up.

both sexes want men to rape women but one of those scenarios is cowardly ugly/fat bastard enjoyer

you should stop watching ntr for a while, it fried your brain, bro

its not me, anon, theres only one route for an MC who can never have sex

Yeah, people seriously misunderstand whom ugly bastard shit is for. There's a reason the u,b. is never the perspective character. There are basically pretty much only two forms:

You're supposed to self-insert to the person he rapes, who is the perspective character

Or you're the cuck, and it's even more degrading because someone so ugly manages to pleasure your love interest like you never could.

No one self-inserts as the u.b. and it's never written for that purpose.

I never self insert into porn anon
I just get aroused at seeing a woman get dominated, used, and mind broken into indulging her most basest desires like a worthless whore.
That's why shit like blackmail/cheating/mindbreak are some of my favorite categories.
But there's a distinction here; if the writing specifically emphasizes the humiliation of the male, it's generally made for cucks to self insert. That's what separates NTR from cheating; whether the male getting cucked plays a central role in the story (such as them showing up and being humiliated for having a small cock, or being forced to watch their wife/gf get mind broken by some faceless plot device)

You don't need to self-insert as the ugly bastard to jerk off. It's more the fact that a conventionally attractive woman is getting used by an ugly bastard and getting mindbroken to the point that she gets addicted to the cock. It's the loss of inhibition and corruption.

Did you make this? Did you have fun? I hope you did, because I have no idea what you're trying to say. My AOTS this season is Takamine-san and Honey Lemon Soda was in my top 3 btw

NTR

kill yourself

But there's a distinction here; if the writing specifically emphasizes the humiliation of the male, it's generally made for cucks to self insert. That's what separates NTR from cheating; whether the male getting cucked plays a central role in the story (such as them showing up and being humiliated for having a small cock, or being forced to watch their wife/gf get mind broken by some faceless plot device)

Ehh, plenty of stuff exists that's just a liberation story to get away from bad exes and humiliate them in the process, the point is definitely not to cater to cucks.

I can tell you are a lonely virgin who never felt the warmth of another human being's flesh, by the way.

I don't know about that. The NTR doujins I've read generally have a few things in common:

protagonist is tall, muscular, has a big dick (or he's a fat ugly bastard with lots of money, and a big dick)

male cuck is a short, thin, small-dicked inferior who barely gets attention from his wife/gf in the first place, probably never even fucked her (if he did, it's usually implied that he didn't last long, or that his wife/gf faked enjoyment during sex)

female protagonist eventually gets mindbroken by enjoying sex "for the first time" saying something like "wow his dick is reaching parts of me my husband/boyfriend has never reached before!"

eventually male cuck ends up finding out and is forced to watch or is sent videos/pictures whereupon he ends up cumming simply for the humiliation

female ends up getting impregnated by letting the protagonist cum inside her in front of the cuck

story ends with total cuck humiliation and woman leaving him to fuck the protagonist forever

slight variations of course, but this is generally how it goes.
To me this makes it seem like the reader is suppose to self insert as the cuck because of how much emphasis is put on him specifically. If you were meant to self-insert as the protagonist, then the cuck need not even be present in the story, and if he is, he need not be present very much, and he doesn't need to even have a face or personality since that's not important.

This is the hottest femdom scene in the entire manga and it's at the very beginning with a nameless mob character who just exists to introduce this lady and show how cruel and sadistic she is. The way it's set up is even like a femdom bdsm scene with a blindfold, gag, and chains. The mistress wearing a dominatrix-esque uniform (clearly for a woman in a position of authority) with high heel boots and thigh high stockings. Dominating her submissive boy slave who's barefoot and getting aroused from being restrained in an embarrassing position and teased. Makes you think the rest of the manga will be like this but after this hook, there's nothing like that again. And it sucks that it ends in actual castration.

It's arguably not even a femdom manga but a female domination loss manga since the premise is the MC fighting the evil matriarchy and building his harem, And not even in a Redo of Healer way. She's let off and joins the harem too easily. She barely receives any comeuppance for the atrocities she committed. We're just supposed to be okay with her not being held accountable because she's a harem girl now so it's all well and good.

Anyways, it's obvious it was going to be trashy but it wasn't even good fetish material.

The intended appeal of ugly bastard shit isn't to self-insert, it's to see a beautiful woman get degraded/destroyed. The nastier the dominant party, the more severe the humiliation. This is why a lot of ugly bastard doujinka also make bestiality and scat and other gross-out shit; they're not self-inserting into pigs and horses, they get off to the juxtaposition. Some use it as pseudo-NTR and AGPs use it to self-insert as the woman, but it's primarily just

a liberation story to get away from bad exes and humiliate them in the process

This seems pretty common in conventional manga with NTR as a premise, but from a pornographic standpoint there's rarely any catharsis since it takes from the humiliation aspect. It's just some poor sap crywanking to his girlfriend/wife/family member/etc. getting fucked while denigrating him.

NTA but thanks for the save.

brainrot

The intended appeal of ugly bastard shit isn't to self-insert, it's to see a beautiful woman get degraded/destroyed. The nastier the dominant party, the more severe the humiliation. This is why a lot of ugly bastard doujinka also make bestiality and scat and other gross-out shit; they're not self-inserting into pigs and horses, they get off to the juxtaposition. Some use it as pseudo-NTR and AGPs use it to self-insert as the woman, but it's primarily just

Then why do almost all ugly bastard stories either extensively detail the thoughts of whoever gets fucked by the u.b. in how it's so degrading and how awful he is but how amazing his dick is, or extensively detail the thoughts of whoever gets cucked in how degrading it is to have one's lover stolen by someone so ugly and unpleasant.

This seems pretty common in conventional manga with NTR as a premise, but from a pornographic standpoint there's rarely any catharsis since it takes from the humiliation aspect. It's just some poor sap crywanking to his girlfriend/wife/family member/etc. getting fucked while denigrating him.

Because it isn't about humiliation. Plenty of stories just exist where the protagonist starts out dating some arse and then gets “saved” by someone better which often starts as technical infidelity.

u.b.

arse

I vaguely suspect you're that innit guy, which would explain the "self-inserting into the girl getting fucked" angle you're coming from, but I'll bite anyway.
The juxtaposition between shame/disgust and pleasure is the bread and butter of any and all humiliation porn. What you're describing is exactly what NTRfags get off to: the woman is degraded and "ruined" but feels good anyway; the cuck is humiliated and aggrieved but gets off anyway.

Plenty of stories just exist where the protagonist starts out dating some arse and then gets “saved” by someone better which often starts as technical infidelity.

Yeah, in conventional manga. This doesn't happen nearly as often in doujinshi because those are primarily from the cuck's POV. I wouldn't doubt it's common in female-targeted porn, but ugly bastards are basically non-existent in that sphere.

This doesn't happen nearly as often in doujinshi because those are primarily from the cuck's POV.

No, since when? It's so often from the perspective of the person who's doing the infidelity, strangely enough pretty much never from the bull's perspective though. Of course that doesn't stop weirdos in the comment section somehow from thinking that the cuck is the main character even if he barely ever show up because they compulsively self-insert into losers.

I wouldn't doubt it's common in female-targeted porn, but ugly bastards are basically non-existent in that sphere.

This wasn't really about ugly bastards though, I just originally responded to what “separates NTR from cheating”, about whether the cuck gets humiliated or not. I said plenty of stories exist where the cuck gets humiliated exist that aren't really about that.

Also, I'm not sure what self-published works versus conventional publication has to do with it unless you just use “doujinshi” as the new word for “pornography” in which case it's even more wrong. So much porn exists that's just:

I'm married to awful arsehole

I start an affair because of that

It ends with me happily running away with the bull while the awful arsehole cuck is humiliated in the end

Pornographic or not, self-published or not.

Did you notice it was an elf boy slave getting femdom'd (or he at least has elf ears)? Took me longer than it should've especially since her main method of attack was teasing and licking the boy's ear.

they're completely obscured in all but one panel. idk why you'd even bother to cut an elf's penis, they were never going to use it.

I think we're just talking about different kinds of NTR manga desu, but I agree the bull's perspective is bizarrely rare.

This wasn't really about ugly bastards though

Fair enough, though I think it's still worth mentioning because there's a clear divide in what a woman and a man would get out of NTR for the most part. A housewife getting swept off her feet by some chad ikemen and cucking her shitty husband is nothing like an obese old man coercing a married woman into depraved shit and then blackmailing her over it to mindbreak her. Both are NTR, but you can tell instantly which type is for whom and the ones into ugly bastard shit fall cleanly into the latter category. That's who I mean when I say people into ugly bastards (and NTR involving them) are in it to see a woman get degraded.

unless you just use “doujinshi” as the new word for “pornography” in which case it's even more wrong.

Nah. Doujinshi, especially erodoujinshi, just has fewer restrictions and a stronger lean towards a mangaka's individual preferences. You can have NTR in conventional manga, but it won't be completely focused on it like a doujinshi one-shot would be.