Why is this such a common type of male fantasy?

Why is this such a common type of male fantasy?

Because w*men want a Chad who's rich and good looking,t they are pursuing it constantly. Males are more honest and just want to love any good female and be happy.

Insecurity

There's no spike in her nether region right? I think I can make it work. For starter, sideway is definitely a go.

are we really going to act like men wouldn't choose a hot bpd stacy that would ruin his life over an ugly but kind homely girl?

Because deep down people want to be a decent human being who don’t judge people based on their look?

It's fine if she's a monster on the outside. It's not fine when she's a monster on the inside.

This doesn't work, incidentally.
She kills herself.

Pathologisation of their male desires.

Because men are competitive by nature, but some can't deal with that pressure.
Having a GF carries an implicit threat of her cheating, looking at other men, or just comparing you with her former boyfriends, all that is another form of competition between men.
Guys with confidence, mostly, don't mind these threats because they feel like they would come on top from any competition against their peers, but insecure men seek fantasies like these.
A "broken", "ugly" (not really), or otherwise "undesirable" woman means that you won't have to compete against other men when dealing with her, because no men wants her. It's a safe option for anyone who consciously or not thinks himself as less of a man.
Also depending on what exactly makes the girl undesirable it can also give you power over her, meaning she likely can't physically leave you or you are her only option to ever even attempt to be happy, another layer of safety because insecure men can't deal with the idea of their women even having the option of leaving them at all.

We want to take care of precious beings, to be the sole source of love for the one who needs it.

You want someone as desperate and vulnerable as you are because you think they won't reject you. Like how predators target the young or feeble in the herd because it's a safer meal

Oh, of course you shouldn't be ugly, BUT the range to which a man considers a woman beautiful is much broader than the range a woman my find a man attractive. They are superficial in inverse ways. It's hard to explain. I'm picturing a X/Y graph where man have a wider tolerance in the X line, but not in the Y while women have a really small X range and a median Y tolerance.

Also, I think it's easier for a man to accept when an attractive woman gets uglier due to an accident or disease and stick with her than the other way around, due to social, physical, economic reasons.

At the end of the day, men are expected to toughen up and deal with it while women aren't and when a man is willing to support a woman when she's about to go through a really tough time, she's way more likely to value him.

The kind of men that stacy wants to fuck have a lot of options and will probably dump most of them.
So in the end they just want a good woman too, but since men get little to no consequences to their bodies for just fucking (and now with anti-conceptives not even any other kind of consequences), they don't mind just fucking a girl they don't want to pursue a relationship with as much as the average woman does.

Their insecurity and flaws give the MC/reader a sense of security that they'll never leave/betray them. Same reason feeders exist.

or maybe we're just compassionate people you cuckoldry-obsessed pseuds

Men mostly marry down and across (socially, financially, intellectually, ...), women by and large only upwards. This is scientific fact.

maybe he's just attracted to monster girls covered in eyes

But the girl in this pic isn't one of those "undesirable" girls, she's a cursed sword that ate an entire village so she could transform into human

normal human ear on monster girl side

cuckoldry-obsessed

You don't know the meaning of the words you are using don't you?

the only reason you like this type of character is because you're afraid of getting KEKED!!

First of all Cuckoldry is not the same as Cheating.
Second you can still be afraid of rejection or just your relationship falling apart without cheating being involved at all.
Also most of these stories focus on the fantasy of having a vulnerable and isolated GF, it the stories wanted to talk about Compassion they would focus on the struggles of the girl from her point of view and showcase how compassion helps her without stroking the ego of the self insert MC (something that shouldn't even exist in the first place if the story revolved around compassion)

You're a woman

Are those eyes on her shoulder and ass?

No, but you surely act like one when someone beats your ass with an argument

unless she's over 18 or has had sex before of course

True love and all of that jizz.

It ultimately stems from the desire to be appreciated for your love. Most attractive women are jaded because they are showered with attention for most of their life. They don’t value positive male feelings towards them because it comes cheap. A man values a woman’s positive feelings towards him because it comes rarely.
In this context, the assumption is this attractive but physically damaged woman can relate to the male experience of going through life without a lot of attention, or perhaps even a baseline of disdain. In this respect, she can better understand the feeling of loving being loved by you in the same way you can love being loved by her.

Your argument is

you're an incel who doesn't care about how real women feel and you only like anime girls because you are afraid that chad will cuck you

Literal femoid seething with resentment

Because we are the monster woman. The one the opposite sex looks at with suspicion, the one who isn’t wanted. This fantasy is about being a prince to a girl who is like you.

you left out the important context where she knows he's lying and kills herself

oh hey new chapter 4 hours ago

compassionate people

just say "nice guys"

The argument was never that the manga is supposed to be some feminist spiel about having compassion for women's struggles, it's simply that men like weak vulnerable girls because they trigger a desire to protect and care for, like saving a wounded baby animal. But you with your reddit psychology had to make it an attack on men and their "insecurities" which is women's favorite word.

Women.
Sensitive Young Men.

this guy is a fucking retard, that was the best timeline

It's this btw

If shoujo manga do this you faggots will scream women are weird.

hot monster chick

ugly normal chick

no contest

I'm being 100% genuine here.
You're a fucking fag if you've said no to this.
This is borderline not even monstergirl tier, she still has female curves.

But let me guess, the MC is a complete normie that thinks she needs to be put to death.

I mean, i would but that's because i love psychotic women, not necessarily because i think she looks better.

amazing bait

Nice projection
At least you agree that the appeal comes from the girls being vulnerable and weak.
I don't know why you immediately jump towards feminism, it looks like you have some trauma or something.
Still the stories are just wish fulfilment and you can't deny that, the fact that the MCs are self inserts proves it.
It isn't about showcasing the benefits of compassion or telling a story about a man who makes the world a better place because he projects those weaker than him
It's just a fantasy for insecure men to experience love without thinking about competing against other men

Because we are the monster woman

Yeah.

Still the stories are just wish fulfilment and you can't deny that

No one denied that, the OP calls it a fantasy, of course fantasies are wish fulfillment.

Shojo manga doesn't do this though

Knew this looked familiar

Look it up

It's the generic bozo trapped in a dungeon story

Read the first two chapters long ago, but it was slowly translated

Read up to this page

Feel sad as a result

Even more sad at the stuff that follows

God damn it. Best girl is gone for good. That's some bullshit right there.

Women like monsters because they're dangerous.
They don't like unloved insecure monsters.

yet another "stealth" 3dpd discussion thread

what do you mean by this "this"? the horribly disfigured girl? that's not common at all.

It's just a fantasy for insecure men to experience love without thinking about competing against other men

This is the real projection right here.
Do you think men who like weak girls can't enjoy capable and popular girls too?
Do you think confident chads with no insecurities can't fall in love with a broken monstergirl?
You clearly are some sort of vitriolic feminist or failed normalfag with a hatred for "insecure basement-dwelling loser men" and a desire to humilliate and emasculate them. Nobody is more obsessed with cheating here than you.

Still the stories are just wish fulfilment

explain why she dies then

In practice, these men hate women who don't look like anime characters. You can tell whenever they complain of DEI/woke/ugliness that men care more about looks than they do about personality.

I can't imagine anyone ITT dating a monster or furry when they recoil at the sight of black women.

The fantasies are literally diametrically opposed.
OP’s is for men who don’t want to feel like an unlovable monster, so they externalize that feeling into a feminine “other”, and imagine the person they wish they could be saving the person they feel like they are to resolve it.
Girls want to fuck monsters because they’re fetishizing men into an exaggeration. It’s not about saving, it’s about enhancing Chad’s traits with a big werewolf cock.
This is an encapsulation of the whole comedy of it all.

wrong, i love me a black queen with a fat ass and i wish there were more of them in anime.
REAL black, not tanned with white hair.

Crystal Cafe’s been posting here lately

TRVKE

I want to be a manic pixie dream boy. That’s pretty much it.

Is any manga with hideous female love interest? i mean fat uggos like this one.
Not quirky ugly girls or fat, but cute girls.
I mean Bella Ramsey tier disgusting rotten femcels like OP.

Crystal Cafe is dead. It's lolcow these days

This is simply facts. They even did a survey or something on OKcupid on how men and women rate the other genders when it came to looks and men's ratings followed a normal distribution pattern while women were heavily tilted towards thinking that most of the men were unattractive and only a very low % were attractive.

There is also the point that only men are capable of unselfish love and can actually love a woman. I honestly believe that women can only love themselves (might be some exceptions, but as a general rule). Childeren are an extension of themselves.

Unironically: Virtue signaling.

That's because men are worth less and women are worth more.

if you leave your bubble for once you will be surprised by the amount of good and attractive men that's married with ugly but good hearted women.

That’s certainly the conclusion society has come to.

I honestly believe that women can only love themselves (might be some exceptions, but as a general rule). Childeren are an extension of themselves.

This is correct. It's also why pairs without children don't live long.

I was hoping you guys would post and discuss some more examples from anime and manga

It's correct. Largely supported by biological reality.

This, I recognized the OP pic and thought this thread would talk more about Yandere Dungeon, but alas.

The way you need the last word in like that betrays the goblin in you.

I truly, from the bottom of my heart, feel sorry for you.

Double this.

What happened next? Who is this moster girl?

You asked a deeper question.

no way

ugly but good hearted women.

These exist? Jk, it is like Houellebeq said, it is better to get a soup woman than a model

Yeah right, you know what you did and the intention behind making that OP.

You either a fool lying yourself or simply not a man.

Last word

? I think it's a fair assessment. I find the way men eagerly dismiss gender equality but then get shocked when it turns around and harms them to be silly. Men are inherently worth less than woman. This is fairly easy to see in it's most literal form in cultures where dowry exists.

Im high quality jabroni. Yea a lot of women are trash but just pick the fruit that aren’t rotten.

If you want a monster girl thread you have to focus exclusively on the monster girl, bringing up the man just gets you this because Anon Babbletrannies are perpetually chomping at the bit to bitch about 3d

Yes. Most men usually don't get to choose.

more protected =/= more worth

That one SMT Strange Journey manga that had a romantic subplot with Vuivre

jabroni

Dunno what this shit means, but peed on you just in case.

implying this isn't what OP wanted

You're a retard and I have no time for that "One man can impregnate lots, one woman can only etc etc etc" argument.
It doesn't properly appraise what civilization is and has become and how virtually everything is built by men.
Kick rocks you pigfucking dolt.

You’re right. Women are more valuable inherently, men prove their worth with action. We’re different.
But you’re backwards, the truth is that gender equality is anti-human nonsense, and has thrown everything out of wack. Men and women shouldn’t cast off their roles, but embrace them once again.

Everytime I see a weird trope I have this thought. Easier to find love if your the only one who'd have eyes for them.

civilization is and has become and how virtually everything is built by men

And they built it all to have a home with a wife and kids.

This is not the devilish finisher you think it is.

Of course men are valued less than women, you have a 50% of the population that can actually care about other people and 50% that only care about themselves. t's inevitable.

I like dangerous monsters too tho. Actually I prefer it to OP, but monster girls in general are the best.

I’m sorry, choose?
Sweetie, 80% of men don’t get to choose much.

This is a very terminally online take that is only true if you solely court women through online dating and absolutely nothing else

Online offers more choice than ever.
Real life is even more restrictive.

I don't think it's anti human. I just think it's naive and generally rather foolish. However, I approach that from the attitude that men are inherently dangerous and worth less and thus need to be treated accordingly. Rather than the usual attitude of women are inferior and need protection. Mostly because I don't think women need or deserve protection, nor do I think 90% of men are capable of providing it.

It doesn't properly appraise what civilization is and has become and how virtually everything is built by men.

Are we communists now? Yes, SOME men built civilization. Are you those men? No? Then why do you expect a handout?

The ideal system would see everybody judged for what they are. To whatever extent gender differences exist, and like I said I believe they do, they would be taken care of by the system itself. Specific discrimination is a admittance of failure.

Are you those men? No? Then why do you expect a handout?

Hold up slapnuts, we just got affirmative action'd out of everything. Colleges, the jobs, you name it, feminists destroyed it. Had it not happened we wouldn't even be discussing how shitty women are in comparison to men.

implying that's ugly

im so tired of this. she's not ugly at all, she's still very much conventionally attractive. cute idealized face, proportions, etc. literally just the cutest girl in your town wearing a halloween costume/makeup

Your worldview is similarly anti-human (civilizational death), and ignores the utility of the higher ideal that raises up the average.
Traditionally feminine life was a privilege built off the backs of many men, not a prison. It never was. The big companies that wanted your labor sold you a crock of shit, and men fell in line with what you said you wanted because ultimately men serve women. The “patriarchy” is the natural order of things.

only true if you solely court women through online dating and absolutely nothing else

Okay.

50%

More like about 20%. Most men are livestock.

Hold up slapnuts, we just got affirmative action'd out of everything

Everything

Way to exaggerate. To whatever extent it is a problem, and it's mostly not, it's only a issue in a few specific fields.

Had it not happened we wouldn't even be discussing how shitty women are in comparison to men.

Yes, you would.

Your worldview is similarly anti-human (civilizational death)

Please. civilization won't die because worthless low value men won't breed. For most of history those men existed to die on the battlefield and life generally moved on without issue.

and ignores the utility of the higher ideal that raises up the average.

It's a cute ideal in Confucianism, but largely futile in reality. The masses cannot be raised up, they can only be controlled like sheep.

not a prison.

Did I ever specify it was a prison?

The “patriarchy” is the natural order of things.

To whatever extent the patriarchy is natural, it is only insofar that it is hypergamous. The ideal society is the top 10% of men impregnating all women.

Way to exaggerate

Am I?
By how much?
You lived through the same last 15 years as I or anyone else did. What the fuck are you denying exactly?

the spiky bits look awkward for hugs

Civilization was built by an agreement between the average men and the top men working together for themselves and what they care about (women). Subjugating the average man will lead to an inevitable downfall, yes. This form of hierarchy isn’t sustainable, and caveman structures lead to cavemen society. Strife, a decay of the upper class, and inevitably, death.

The difference between humans and lions is that human society needs all its men to be willing to contribute.

How willing will they be if you just say "you are worthless, you get nothing"?

It’s another batshit post-human ideology that can only be entertained because of technology.
But it would crumble, inevitably.

Am i?

Yes, several places are still totally dominated by men. Some of them, like ICT, in-spite of efforts to make them more equal. If you want a example of gender equality clearly not being a thing in practice, there you have one.

Agreement

It was force. The average men were beaten into shape by powerful warlords who took what they desired by force and then build the rules to reflect that. The inferior men had no choice but to obey. Subjugation and conquest of the majority has always been the norm. The rite of first night was a real thing, and it was a real thing because the people were subjugated.

This right here is why women aren’t suitable to lead society. Your priority is access to chad, all other concerns are secondary.

Yes, several places are still totally dominated by men

Oh like sewer workers I suppose. Right?

The difference between humans and lions is that human society needs all its men to be willing to contribute.

No? They don't need most of the male population. They are obsolete as people. You could half the male population and society would keep on trucking.

that can only be entertained because of technology.

Obviously. Technology has largely rendered men obsolete. To whatever extent they are useful, we don't need as many of them as we do now.

Barbarism only goes so far, you seek death and destruction.

Agriculture.

Architecture.

Clergyship.

Construction.

Financial services.

Firefighting.

Technology.

Piloting.

My priority is ensuring that surplus men are properly taken care off.

Technology would leave women in the same boat, if such a post-human future were to happen.
Thankfully your worldview is so unstable that if it were attempted it would crumble immediately.

Barbarism only goes so far

It got us to here. So, yeah, I would say it goes pretty far. Now that we are here and most men are obsolete all that remains is to do away with them. As either a third class of citizens or simply altogether.

Piloting.

... ... ... Are you CERTAIN you wish to bring up this particular point at this particular moment in time?

Technology would leave women in the same boat,

No, because most functions in which humans are preferable to robots are uniformly things women excel at.

Thankfully your worldview is so unstable that if it were attempted it would crumble immediately

We are seeing it in work right now. Surplus men are rapidly dying out.

3/10 ragebait. Only turbo autists would fall for this

Why not?

Woman are needed in robotopia

Hilariously wrong.
But don’t worry sweetie, the men will figure it out for you before you get replaced.

It got us to here

But it didn’t. Barbarism lost.

Hilariously wrong.

I doubt that. But, hey, if the ideal society is a small 10% of men ruling over a world of robots that is acceptable as well. The easiest way to deal with differences between gender is to just have one gender.

She killed herself immediately after realizing that he only said so out of pity and that she isn’t even human like she wants to be.
He does a Re:Zero world restart to try again

You know what, you're wrong but who cares.

We should genetically modify the human species to be 90% female.
At least that way we get less violent crime and every man can have a harem, we'll figure the other problems out eventually.

But it didn't

Yes, it did.

Barbarism lost

It won.

I do find it funny that women think a society where they somehow kill off all the men they don’t like and then rule with a couple chads kept on the side to breed is possible.

How is it not? Polygamy is the most natural state of being.

You know that we would just beat and rape you and then bring back arranged marriage and marital rape and take away most of your rights?

Don't you believe that's what women want? If, according to you, all that matters to women is access to chad then by default this is a arrangement in which everybody is satisfied.

You aren’t in the 10% either. Enjoy your suicidal fantasies, they will not happen.

We should genetically modify the human species to be 90% female.

Yes.

We should also use advanced tranny technology to turn most of the incel male population that is alive today into girls. They would be way happier that way.

Wrong. Invent artificial wombs and remove women from the equation. Practically all problems would vanish as they stem from women or men's desire to get women

Unironic globohomo accelerationist fantasies

Never vote for a woman, never work under a woman.

You aren’t in the 10% either.

Okay? And?

Yeah but do you want to be more efficient or do you want a harem?

He wants more violent crime and rape.

And enjoy your suicidal fantasies, they will not happen.

Grade school

We've truly failed...

How is it not? Polygamy is the most natural state of being.

Polygamous societies are universally more violent and dysfunctional. Look up a map for terrorism concentrations then look up a map for polygamy and you’re looking at the same map.
Monogamy works because it gives the average man reason to cooperate with the system and play by the rules. It helps women by giving them 100% of the resources and attention of a man rather than a fraction, and it helps children because they get much more effort and investment than if their father had dozens more with multiple wives.

Don't you believe that's what women want? If, according to you, all that matters to women is access to chad then by default this is a arrangement in which everybody is satisfied

I’m saying average men would, not chads.

1/5th of boomers met in grade school

Revolution now.

This thread is only proving that feminists are mentally ill

try to meet your soulmate in grade school

end up on the sex offender registry

woooooow

The serious ones are. Casual ones have just been duped.

Play stupid games…

You could half the male population and society would keep on trucking.

I guess that's why everybody is panicking about falling birthrates and importing millions of brown people only to oanick harder because immigrates also have falling birthrates in a few generations

You’re speaking to a deranged person. Trying to mine sense out of them is useless.

Surely this time we can overcome humanity, for we are wiser and more capable than our forefathers

-words spoken before disaster.

Correct and societypilled.

Everybody

The rich. Population decline is good and natural.

Blah Blah Blah we’re gonna kill you incel!

You’re so cute when you’re mad.

Monogamous societies caused two world wars. Monogamous socities almost blew up the world. Monogamous societies don't last for longer than a century.

Violence and instability is not measured in terrorism. It is support of terrorism. That is the monogamous west, im afraid.

I’m saying average men would

They would be gone.

We have overcome humanity. The men who have not are the issue.

No, all they do is complain about women all day.

Monogamous societies caused two world wars. Monogamous socities almost blew up the world. Monogamous societies don't last for longer than a century.

Very bad trolling or a level of historical ignorance that is truly astounding

They would be gone.

Lmao who’s gonna get rid of them. Women?

Thank you for the excellent demonstration of feminine thought. You can’t conceptualize the average, and you factor in extremes as if they refute a general principle.

Going into a dark alley in the ghetto at night with cash hanging out of your pocket is dangerous-

Well my cousin did that and nothing happened!

Air travel is safer than travel by car-

Well I just heard about a plane crash on the news today!

You can’t lead, you can’t plan. Don’t tucker yourself out.

You are already in the midst of disaster.