WSJ - Weekly Shounen Jump

manga probably only has about a month to live, especially after this development

In all seriousness: what happened? Why didn't the Japanese flock to it like Bokuben, or like other recent more successful series? What could Tsutsui have done differently to make the series a success?

Ichi is a homo.

It didn't sell. In the end that's the only thing that matters.

MKL thread

Shit

Ichi text leaks doko

We know it didn't sell, but surely there was something they could have done to make it sell better.

You could ask western readers too since views on mangaplus have been low for months.

The people who do read it actually mostly like it. The issue seems to be more that most people never even bothered with it. I guess it's survivorship bias?

The story is boring, simple as
Same for nue but at least it brings virgin otakus readers

I would have liked Syd better if Elio actually was a boy

Is Sakamoto days any popular now? I don't mean just selling decently, but being reasonably popular

The manga is quite popular, but you wouldn't know it from Anon Babble since its discussion is dead here. Same with Blue Box for some reason. The anime is being shat on though, but that hasn't stopped them from promoting it and making more of it.

Otr text leak yet?

lol
lmao even

ジャンプをフラゲ
連載第2回目 灯火のオテル 面白い
気のせいか カグラバチ 絵のタッチが呪術廻戦っぽくなってきてるような

Eh, I asked because I don't see it discussed much anywhere, not just Anon Babble. Same goes for Blue Box, that you rightfully brought up

Maybe it's bigger in Japan

2ch thread
may.2chan.net/b/res/1319191291.htm

something somethig nue

Do you have an archive for last week's thread? Interested in what they thought of the Syd chapter, since in the thread you linked they seem sure it's ending.

Definitely

Reason Bokuben made it was because of the teacher, it probably would've been axed if she didn't save it. She was the breakout character.

Tsutsui did something similar this time but it doesn't seem like it worked.

i'm pretty sad, because it's one of the few wsj series that i've been keeping up with and felt was decent. cute girls and a silly setting with a decent enough mc.
seems like all the veterans of yesteryear just get axed immediately nowadays unless there's some kind of bias (kill blue)

Just imagine if Otel actually blew up

Shut up Ikari

Can you imagine funny it would be if Psyren becomes super popular in the year 2026?

Sorry but I read it Psyyaen

It might be the funniest waiting game

Psyren's writing style and sense came from the 2000s era of shounen

About to get an anime with 2020s standards

You will see Ageha finally joining up with his supposed colleagues such as Naruto/Luffy/Ichigo after being denied for a decade

At the same time, he'll be paired with recent protags such as Deku/Yuji/Chihiro

How is the author doing nowadays? I'd be very ecstatic if the manga he worked on a decade ago finally got an anime

I still don't get how this never got an anime. It was already at more than 100 chapters up against the toughest competition. It deserved it more than anything .

Pretty much it's very safe right now.

Ageha

Man, i can already sense the jokes coming from this name

SaKINOto Days

KINOrabachi

KINOshi

otr

This cover got aura

I feel like it's really gonna be different because this is Psyren's first anime so it doesn't have the handicaps of being a remake (Shaman King), or a continuation of a title with long gaps inbetween (kinnikuman, d-grayman).

Not really, Sensei had this forbidden love angle. The phantom thief X detective is just catwoman and batman

remake (Shaman King)

Amazing how the excitement for the remake went down extremely fast after the first episode aired myself included

Since it's Psyren time, this is its competition of when it was running in Jump

Naruto
One Piece
Bleach
Reborn
Toriko
Kuroko's Basketball
Gin Tama
Sket Dance
Bakuman
Medaka Box
Beelzebub
Kochikame
Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan
Inumarudashii
Enigma
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Oumagadoki Zoo
Light Wing

With the exception of two or three titles, it's an extremely stacked lineup

Naruto

One Piece

Bleach

Reborn

Toriko

Kuroko's Basketball

Gin Tama

Sket Dance

Bakuman

Medaka Box

Beelzebub

Kochikame

Hard to believe some of these can be existers in their time

the story doesn't have any tension on the romance relationship
there should be villains who want to NTR the females here to make the story interesting

Can't blame him, especially when this is the best looking woman in that universe.

Oumagadoki Zoo

they should make an anime for this, it'd probably do well just by the virtue of being made by horikoshi

Funny how Oda and Shinohara are the only ones who have manga running in Jump still

And that's a good thing!

Light Wing

KEK

ToC for those who missed it last thread:

1 ・ Ichi the Witch ・ 27th Hunt: Most Wanted
2 ・ Akane-banashi ・ STORY 151: CUSTOMS
3 ・ Nue's Exorcist ・ CHAPTER 91: LOVE ADVICE
4 ・ Shinobi Undercover ・ CHAPTER 26: THAT'S ALL!

Kagurabachi was on a break eight issues ago

5 ・ The Elusive Samurai ・ CHAPTER 196: SACRIFICE 1351
6 ・ Me & Roboco ・ Chapter 226: Sensei & Roboco
7 ・ Hima-Ten! ・ No. 35: Kanna House Call
8 ・ WITCH WATCH ・ 195 A Birthday Mix-up
9 ・ Syd Craft: Love Is a Mystery ・ Case 17: The Noble Daughter Author Has Another Chance Encounter at a Certain Meeting
10 ・ Kill Blue ・ Page 94: Middle School Student Council
11 ・ Super Psychic Policeman Chojo ・ #55 The Godkiller Senior Police Officer
12 ・ Star of Beethoven ・ #007 The Entrance Exam
13 ・ Embers ・ CHAPTER 8: THE ROAD TO GREATNESS, PART 1

The Big Three (ft Toriko in Jump's eyes)

The Fujomagnet Duo

The Gag Alliance

Bakuman

Medaka

13 ・ Embers ・ CHAPTER 8: THE ROAD TO GREATNESS, PART 1

It really feels like a different time. The first 12, only Kuroko doesn't have an anime but the rest do

Meanwhile, 3/4ths of the current magazine don't have anime

Funny or not. I would love to see that happen. I loved Psyren back in the day.

He's dropped off the map. Last I saw, he had a one-shot in Jump GIGA back in 2017, but no work since then. I assume he just became a wagecuck somewhere.

Hokenshitsu no Shinigami

Does anyone know how this one managed to last for 10 volumes? Decent sales?

Lolibaba

Ironic

Even the bottom shitters have managed to survive pretty damn long.

only Kuroko doesn't have an anime

You what mate?

At that time, Kuroko did not have an anime. I forgot to add that

I don't get it

Assuming is fun and all, but it's not gonna be Psyren just for the fact it ended 14 years some months ago

With how low the bar is these days I wonder if Cross Account could have survived in today's Jump.

Sometimes I forgot how much of a titan Reborn was when it was running.

It's probably still because the fujo fanbase is fucking loyal.

I don't see any other axed Jump manga getting high poll placements.
Unless you think it's fucking Jaguar of all things

Back when I was in high school over 10 years ago, Reborn was huge.

Unfortunately, yeah. As much as I'd love to see Psyren get picked up, its just not gonna happen.
Fuck, man. This would be a great opportunity for Iwashiro to get his full story out for the manga too. Have the anime do the final arcs properly instead of the rush job he had to do when it got canceled.

High placement in what?

Feels like they are treating Chojo like some emergency cushion because it's one manga that could be wrapped in 2-3 chapters without much problem. (but they would rather want it to exist for a bit longer)

The nerfs Reborn got was no english dub and the pretty boys made it look like a yaoi manga

But other than that, it was huge in its own right.

I can't believe Himaten has survived this long and will reach its first anniversary. I still remember back when it was new, people were sure it was going to be axed.

Would be nice if he came back for one last try thank to the anime

black clover is the best manga i n jump

Is Kiyoshi really in danger? They've clearly been pushing it but it's stagnated and seemingly has little potential left to grow.

What other popular axed manga with no anime from 15yrs ago even fit the bill though?

Eh, I was sure it was gonna survive because Nue has been surviving.
Jump readers who want romance are still there by tons if they managed to make Nue stay that long. I was so sure it was axebait prime when it dropped in 2023.

Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be a single romance title in this lineup?

Where's the Rokudenashi Blues anime?

It's gonna be Jaguar and you will like it

That was after TLR and before Nisekoi.

Waiting in line behind the Rookies anime.

I don't read Nue but the seethe it causes in /wsj/ is just absurd. I have no idea what causes anyone here to hate it to the level of hate it gets. I can at least get KGB since its success has made some here envious, but Nue? What has it even done wrong?

A hypothetical Reborn reboot anime would need to recast just about everyone, right? The majority of the voice cast aren't in the industry anymore.

Jaguar is also right there with Psyren.
It didn't end 15+ years ago.

You know what's funny? Even with this stack line up , MHA,JJK and KnY will still sure do well in this era can't say the same about current Jump tho.

That's pretty much an understatement. Almost all of the Reborn characters have VAs who quit voice acting altogether

Ironically, the only one they can retain is Hibari's (Their most popular character)

What are you on about nigga
If you were there reading Nue during its first chapter drop in 2023, you'd think it was axebait prime too. Not to mention it was the last of its batch. There was no harem hinted at all and the setting looked like a copy of that dogshit skull princess manga or whatever its name was.

It's fans are obnoxious and arrogant and thought they'd reach 100k sales, the Nue fans also harassed a lot of manga such as tenmaku cinema, kgb, and now otr

I see nothing wrong with recasting everyone. Trying to contact with people who have not touched anime forever is too much of a hassle

BB, Sakamoto, and KGB would've have sold 200k+ in 2010.
Heck, depending on how long BB is gonna continue it's gonna beat Nisekoi in circulation.

Lambo's still around of course, and Ryohei might be available. I think Tsuna and Reborn reprised their roles for a Jump Stars game before disappearing again, and Gokudera's still around as a stage actor?

I'm not talking about Nue surviving. I'm talking about what is it about Nue that causes some here to have a (seemingly irrational) intense hatred for it. Is it really because of Nue fans attacking KGB, or is it something else?

Who the fuck cares. Everyone gets shit on here.

They are all already, you can't just tell because of digital.

Reborn's VA is doing stage plays and same with Gokudera
Lambo's (Both young and teenage) are very much active
Hibari's always around for Talesfes but he does have minor roles
Ryohei also does minor roles even until now.

Well, it's only hypothetical.
I think it'll be easier if the new rumored anime goes straight to the Inheritance Ceremony since it's just between the main vongola members and the Shimon members.

Yeah well, that's what I'm hinting at. They should be around mid tier between Bakuman and Nurarihyon.

A change to Tsuna's VA is all I'm asking for.
Female VAs voicing guys should be a dead trend already

Female VAs voicing guys should be a dead trend already

It was a very common thing to do back in 2000s

Which makes Ichigo lucky because he got a male VA to begin with.

KGB can still do fantastic back then. Maybe an outlier though because that era of Jump was more lighthearted and wasn't full edgelord.

KGB would have a full blown fandom war with Bleach though.

Red hood would have survived in current jump

Bleach AND Naruto

kek why do that sounds realistic

I can already imagine it

if Otr fails:
I will call kawahuchi hacks and laugh at his fans nonstop

if otr live:
Nice, WSJ got another hit (2-3 hit more and its healthy), while jump plus still not produce one in 2 years. and other shonen magazines for slacking.

win-win, baby!!

it is

LOL
Try again blacked clover

You don't need to imagine

Because that shit already happens in the current day. Just replace Naruto with Boruto

5k sales first month

Reddit Hood is embers tier

THE ROAD TO GREATNESS, PART 1

Bottom of ToC

I feel like the setting isn't really being properly utilized, for one thing.

Most of Syd's deductions are shallow and half-assed (some of them aren't even actual deductions so much as solving word puzzles/ciphers). The bulk of the manga is also episodic zany antics that could just as well have been in any other romcom, rather than any real focus on mysteries or cases per se.

Which isn't to say that the wacky shenanigans are inherently an issue, in and of themselves, but what's the point of having Sherlock as your protagonist and the childhood friend as his Lestrade if they're hardly going to do any meaningful detective work? And I would love to interpret that as the manga simply knowing what it is and just taking the piss, but it's not as though the series is completely irreverent about its story, since it goes out of its way to have the Zero Craft plot as a recurring feature. It just doesn't dwell on any of the serious aspects long enough or in sufficient depth to be particularly interesting. About the closest it gets was on the cruise ship when some anons speculated about Zero actually being Souffle's split personality.

I think this just lacks a real threat (no, not the axe) or criminals that feel menacing. Most of murderers are way too cute so nobody takes the attempts to create tension seriously. This is sad because I'm convinced 22i could make it work.

We'll see answers in a month when it's going to be near 1st Anniversary.

Sounds like finale title.

next batch when?

Why? They're from different gens and the KGB author is a big naruto fan

Those fuckers started it, now imagine if KGB and burrito air back to back.

There would be no war.
Kgb would be looked at as the bootleg Naruto and bootleg Bleach and it's three fans wouldn't be worthy to even talk to.

imagine nue in 2010 wsj
this poop would be axed instantly

Manga helpers?
22i had all the time in the world to immerse himself in detective fiction, but it seems that he may have just studied some basic tropes and called it a day

I think nue would be an okayish middle ranker in the 2000s, not even part of the upper echelon of the genre

axed fotms get anime

kaguya sama, even when people hate it, is the best example. the mind games battle and LOVE romance comedy can work together.
22i is just dumb who cant write more than slop romcom. its same gimmick.

2010s was the peak of Battle Harems though. Nue would do much better in that era

The bulk of the manga is also episodic zany antics that could just as well have been in any other romcom, rather than any real focus on mysteries or cases per se.

I feel like it originally wanted to focus more on the mysteries than the romcom stuff, but the feedback wasn't good so the series pivoted. Notice how the mysteries pretty much disappeared after the ship arc.

because its not good detective story from the start just mimick, hollow and halfassed. and so he never try again.

Based

If it has "love is a mystery" in the title then the focus should be clear. But standard romcom formular needs a spicy gimmick to work. It's cute not really exciting.

In retrospect, shonen writing during that late 2000s early 2010s was kinda ass, wasn't it?
Manga fell head-first into character gacha and just introduce 20 new literalwho villains every arc just to fill battle quota.

Manga fell head-first into character gacha and just introduce 20 new literalwho villains every arc just to fill battle quota.

You say as if newer shonen didn't do this either. Look at JJK making literal throaway enemies

not when you read the shit we have nowadays including nue shitxorcist, no

Fair enough kek

Now that I think about it, the new chapter seemed to act meta in how it seemed to acknowledge that the end came sooner than expected.

Syd was too horny

It doesn't even have pantyshots. Even Bokuben had a few, especially during the routes.

Syd wasn't horny enough.

Embers & Beethoven flop batch

I wonder if, internally, Jump staff have a term for a flopped batch

Which makes Ichigo lucky because he got a male VA to begin with.

Because he's older and high school age with a manlier design.

Luffy was older

It crazy how theres nothing to talk about in nu wsj, no memorable character, nothing

/wsj/ is more interested in ritualposting and shitflinging than actually talking about the magazine. You can only keep spamming the word "WINNERS" or keep complaining about Brazilian bogeymen for so long.

There is but people would start whining if the thread becomes 90% KGB talk

How it feels thinking Chihiro would look better with even more scars.

Luffy is a retarded child though so he can't have a cool Male VA

Maybe in the Wit remake tho

It's more a problem of this thread being actively hostile to discussion than with the series.

give me a single memorable scene from nue exorcist

They're both flops
The magazine is also a flop rn and is being hugely carried by one piece
Nue would have sold 5k top in any other magazine than wsj

Nue had to give it its all just to barely get into the 30k club and it's still better than half the magazine. How the mighty have fallen.

MoTW format at the beginning is good for battle shonen though, even in today standard.

Nue despite being in jump for two years has caused an inspired work to spawn in wsm

Ort leaks?

I don't see how this is inspired by nue
But this already looks more interesting from this picture

nue inspired battle harems

lol

that panel

I can clearly see what's happening and there are no angular panels

Enjoy boyos
pocket.shonenmagazine.com/title/02756/episode/415013
I do like how most shonen publications are doing more 00s inspired stuff rather than chasing the dark shonen trend which everyone as predicting over the past few years, it's really nice

Zenno entire existence, he's too cool for that Manga so he got erased

Remind me of Tsukihime and Mahoutsukai