EMERGENCY EARLY THREAD.
What are your plans moving forward now that mangadex is in its death throes?
Scanlations
The only question is where scanlations will be uploaded to. MD was convenient because virtually everyone uploaded there. If you have a reading list, any list, all you have to do is wait for this new place to hopefully appear. Old chapters and official translations can usually be found elsewhere.
Seems like we have to wait and see how this shit settles.
My only plan right now is to download anything I want to read.
What are your plans moving forward
Learning nihongo for real this time
just reupload everything to mangadex again, duh
what jap gon' do?
What are you supposed to do if you're a Japanese manga publisher? People say they'll stop pirating if they put out high quality non-MTL localizations to purchase. How do you afford the cost of that when you're competing against fans who will do it high quality for free?
is hiring a few guys really that much for a multi-billion yen zaibatsu? fuck, it could be even easier for them since they don't have to clean the pages before, or could actually consult the author or editor to clear up confusion
Why dont they just make region lock for exclude access from US? Japs and publishers don't give a fuck about rest of the world
At least one group tried that and the reuploads got deleted again
then do it again?
You guys know how to? I use mangadex dot zip, but I'd like to know of alternatives. I know of cubari, but Idk how to download full series from there.
Hakuneko and Mihon maybe?
What sites even do proper quality uploads? Feels like there's only a handful ones besides Mangadex and they're mostly niche.
I'm running Suwayomi for my needs.
Nooo not my translated bl manga
copy everything on different server
remake the site under new name
restrict how to access
no usasians allowed
Join comick discord and ask upload permissions
corporate japan is full of out of touch old boomers who dont think of doing this
and when they DO hire translators, they'll give them terrible overworked schedules while also choosing tranny / fag translators who mistranslate everything
It was an inevitability and retards grew comfortable as they always did. This was ALWAYS going to happen just as it did for literally every other massive aggregator in the past. How many fucking times do people need to repeat history before they get it through their thick skulls that any pirate site that can't evade DMCAs will always die?
Let's see what new retarded manga aggregator owner will take the stage and walk down the same road that Onemanga, Mangafox, Batoto and now Mangadex walked.
bl manga is probably the one that would be hit the least, because those scanlators still host on separate sites/discords instead of dumping it all on mangadex.
Join comick discord
No, thank you
Mangadex is still there?
The only question is where scanlations will be uploaded to
I feel like no one will create a successor unless mangadex dies completely, so we'll be left with no central place to upload to.
Legit hope MD dies, and quickly.
No shit I was being ironic and boasting how nice it is to be a faggot.
714 series got their chapters removed, there's a list on the subreddit of mangadex.
I really don't understand, why they always make it easly accessible? Just make it like sad panda and add region locks
Sadpanda is removing a shitload of content too though.
Continue to not use that dogshit website.
how about you pay for the manga you read, faggots
Sadpanda doesn't evade DMCAs, no idea how it still floats to be honest, maybe most of the hentai publishers are just give less of a fuck or are more market savvy than the mainstream ones.
Pay for manga that was never sold in your country and/or is not even printed or distributed anymore
We're scanlators, we actually do.
Do you pay to suck all that dick anon?
A lot of the shit isn't available outside of Japan you retarded mutt, nor is it expected to ever be available in (you)r country much less globally.
The one series I upload there is still up so I'm just going to keep uploading there. It gets to every other site through scraping anyway. I also keep the files so I can upload elsewhere if necessary.
I'm not overly attached to MD for reading either and have been reading more and more in Japanese. I knew something like this would happen at some point but people always seem surprised.
I hope Anon Babble is already making a replacement. I'm sure the logo will be sick.
The last time Anon Babble tried doing that it ended up being a waste of time because people just congregated to another site.
the other sites all seem ok so far, wonder if they'll also get hit as well but for right now I'm not panicking
mangahelpers dies
batoto dies
mangadex gets hombre'd
mangadex gets dmca'd
it's finally time to dl something
FMD2 works great.
What I don't understands from these DMCA, do these retards do not understand that these people provide free advertisement for their series? What do they expect to happen if they lose this amount advertisement in the world? Third worlders and such can only read these from pirate sites and then they pay for merch of it.
I'm from south america and buying any of the manga I read it's impossible from here due to the shipping costs and the prices.
kek
There's only so many ways and so many times you can say "they don't understand, they don't care"
Why Daiz do this...
Where will I read shit that doesn't get uploaded to places besides Mangadex? It's definitely in the process of dying.
I've just been spamming gallery-dl all day. With the right config it even packs each volume into neat .cbz archives.
What are you supposed to do if you're a Japanese manga publisher?
Leave it the fuck alone.
What's a complete list of nuked series?
They are retards, they don't care, they are old and don't understand marketing, they are insane, and this needs to be said again that they are FUCKING retarded.
I wonder what a lot of groups will do, permadrop shit because they only use mangadex? Only post on their shitty discords?
There are a lot more than are on this list. It's at least 1000 series that got nuked.
is there a torrent out there with a somewhat up to date library?
He needs to remind us from time to time.
Executives are retarded, but Japanese executives are like the biggest retards on earth
DAMN HIM!
I'm expecting only shitty discords for now to because they probably want to lay low, either that or literally just disappear.
Retard
Kumo desu ga, nani ka? has been BTFO'd too, just noticed it.
Good! The manga's shit.
when they DO hire translators, they'll give them terrible overworked schedules while also choosing tranny / fag translators who mistranslate everything
Fucking this, it's one thing to be uptight "muh Nihōn" cunts, but it's worse that they dont bother to have a bit of scrutiny on who does the TL.
And no, not knowing english is not an excuse
They simply don't care. They see free content, they scream piracy and cry to their lawyers to throw out some DMCAs. When a shareholder sees free content, they can only think about how their magic money line won't go up as fast as it should be and scream at the CEO to start throwing DMCAs to make it go up faster.
Besides, it's not mangakas making the money in the end, its the publishers and their shareholders.
What happened to Mangaloid?
Legit hope MD dies, and quickly.
why?
They dont care
Their japanese clients dont care
And faggot ass translators will love it because then it means they can gouge more.
I had a thought. It may be retarded.
Make a firm in America for "translations"
hire only hobbyist translators who already make money in other ways
Pay translators per chapter, only a small amount like $30-$50 per chapter
Sell these translations to major Japanese publishers
Have them release them officially so they can still make money while you get a small amount from them paying for the TLs
In theory this'd sidestep the trannylator issue entirely since you can just tell them to make it better before selling it to the firm.
Honestly if I had any serious capital I'd make a TL firm and market myself as "No Censorship, no BS" TL company
Some not on the list I've noticed
mangadex.org
mangadex.org
mangadex.org
mangadex.org
mangadex.org
mangadex.org
mangadex.org
mangadex.org
They killed Date Chizuko...
People will hold on if the decay is slow and no one will move to the hypothetical new website if the dex still barely works.
I explained in the previous sentence.
If you had any business sense, you'd know how to get a loan.
The problem is, you could do that, but then payment processors show up and tell you to follow their guidelines, or they'll fuck you in the ass.
Fuck, some of the stuff i read are shitdex only groups
I guess I could post my new chapters on Anon Babble, but no one gives a fuck about the series I work on here
Sue them
Yay, I will pay for Otome Sensou, a manga that has never had an official translation. I will purchase all the works I enjoy that have never been released in my country. I will happily enjoy my hard copies of manga that are out of print even in Japan.
Oh, wait.
Sell these translations to major Japanese publishers
Why would they want to buy translations when they can either just license it to a gaijin company and let them distribute, or if they want to distribute it in overseas markets themselves they'll just hire some SEAniggers for peanuts the way they always do
Any works that were too unpopular to get scraped by the aggregator sites combined with an uploader retarded enough to not back up their work?
How about no.
What series?
That's a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby type lawsuit.
Hmm, if only I could...
Well here in my actual situation, any money I currently have is going to debt and savings.
It may be futile but I'd rather pay court fees than allow these cunts to pull off their double standards
where are all the english license announcements? surely they should be pouring in right about now?
c'mon, you jap dinosaur fucks. you want me as a paying customer, don't you?
Where can I read this giantess ojou san series I never heard about before until today?
They would rather have no audience than a non-paying non-Japanese audience. To them you are all insects.
ah i thought you were one of those people who hates MD just because it was popular
Like they care about the english market. It's just knee jerk scorched earth without any deeper thought.
Honestly not my problem, but you have my condolences.
half of my bookmarks got bretty much nuked
im fucking livid, especially since i have barely time to read now due to work
if only torrents for manga were as easily available as for anime
guess its time to go back to all the shitty unmanaged aggregators and waste a lot of time shifting through garbage
They have to care, i haven't checked any numbers yet but at this point it has to be more a large portion of their revenue, no? Anime is insanely popular overseas
I'm looking at my library feeling like that scene in the Incredibles where Mr incredible is going through the supes kill list
I'm desperately trying to find a bunch of discords to join and sites to bookmark
Just pay for a product that in most cases they refuse to sell
Are you retarded?
since i got a lot of disposable income i was genuinely about to go and pickup some manga that got licensed in my post soviet shithole
but its all censored to shit
why for the everloving fuck of god would i ever pay a ridiculous amount of money for an inferior version of a product
im a born and raised poorfag, i will never throw out cash into the dumpster willingly
Great bait mate, I give it an 8
is it one of our series?
nuke it
is it out of print/unavailable outside of Japan/etc?
don't care, it's one of our series, nuke it
No other consideration
Based humble heroes in suits shielding Japan from Perry's black ships that are scanlations. Popularity abroad caused nothing but harm to anime and manga.
If they actually cared, we would have a Steam equivalent for Anime, Manga and Light Novels. Heck include shit from Korea and China too. But no, China might eventually do something, but never expect intelligence from those Korea and (especially) Japan.
dang it, they got yuusha ga shinda
I will just rely on new chapter dumps on Anon Babble for manga going forward
It's more of an issue of actually finding out that something got updated with more chapters than were to find them. I can't be bothered to just wait and see what gets posted randomly.
I will never pay for digital media even if it becomes cheap and widely available and well-translated
I will continue to illegally download things I like with no regard for how it impacts some corporation's bottom line
mangadex.org
WTF WHHHHHYYYYY. Why would this get targeted?!?! It's one of the manga I completed before I started downloading manga and I never went back to download this one.
Doubt it. dlsite stopped showing loli to non-jap IPs. They coulda did a pixiv and just have people change their location, but I think they're just happier with jap only. Wouldn't be surprised of these publishers are the same.
i assume it's basically anything from a bunch of publishers that got nuked regardless of whether or not it's got an official english release, that's from square enix and it looks like their other stuff is gone too
retard
I’m sad because mangadex centralized my updates. Now I have to somehow export my reading list and put it in tachiyomi or whatever. Any tips on tools for this?
I see some duplicates. Someone will shorten the titles or use EN/JP and OP doesn't verify it.
Why is it so fucking hard for web developers to make a reader that isn't scrolling down, and an interface that doesn't look like complete garbage?
Mangadex was the only one that got it right, and now everything worth reading is gone.
I saw someone complaining that Spill It! Cocktail Knights (Bareteru! Cocktail Nights for any archive searchers) wasn't on nyaa. I happened to download everything a couple of weeks ago, so here it is: catbox.moe
I don't see Hyouge Mono anywhere.
Look at your library, and click the four square icon to make everything into a thumbnail. Next, click and drag from the right of the "### titles" text to the bottom right of the page. This will highlight all the manga titles on that page. Copy and paste them into a text editor, then repeat for all pages. Don't forget the other categories, like Plan-to-Read and Completed. If your text editor is Notepad ++, once you finish copying all the titles, you can go to "Edit -> Line Operations -> Sort Lines Lexicographically Ascending" to sort all the titles alphabetically.
It's what I did, at least. A little extra manual work to make sure I find the titles elsewhere, but worth it.
I wish mangakas would pay freelancers to translate their manga and they put it up on a patreon or something similar. The mangaka for Jin did it
I gave up on asking seven seas for Gash Bell. At least Baki is seemingly getting an english print soon
Because those sites are cheap shit made to be abandoned in case of things like Mangadex is going through. While MD was super slow in making their shit look and work the right way, they actually cared enough to go through that effort. All irrelevant in the end, DMCA comes for all and if they can't evade then they die.
I need to do something like this.
I am following nearly 300 manga, most of which I don't really care about and/or rarely get chapters or are dropped. I'm going to have a big clean out of my MD and MU reading lists. I was foolishly using Neko, so I will manually add the series to whatever app and list becomes my new go-to. At least I archived everything I'd finished over the many years and some things I had read part way, but I wasn't up to date with it.
I can't really give a shit about any website reader since I only read on my tablet.
Then why doesn't mangadex open source their shit?
Yeah but where do you download and scrape your chapters from? Nobody is really posting on their blogspot anymore.
oh, speaking of gash bell it looks like the only series from him that was hit was animal land for whatever reason
Whatever site has the best quality.
Thanks anon
This is shit I heard years ago, but basically the owner was retarded enough to think that if the site got big enough, he could make it go legit in some way. Obviously the effort lead to nowhere, never mind that whatever legit way was chosen would kill the site anyway.
(Same anon) That's why didn't open source it is the theory, because he was trying to be a jew.
Is there any way to do something like this that also includes the name of the author and the japanese title?
Baka has literally been around for decades at this point retard.
Sadly, not that I'm aware of. You'll need to do that manually.
Comick doesn't have the exact same files Mangadex has/had, they're smaller in file size albeit same resolution
Better than nothing, most other sites don't have the right size and resolution
Mangapark has the exact same files in at least some cases
Cut off one head, three appear in its place
They are retarded boomers, they are the same retards that want to push DRM into everything because according to their retarded homosexual Keynesian assessors it's making them lose money. Piracy has always ended up being beneficial in the long term.
It's old shit that doesn't even have thumbnails on the releases page, doesn't have a way to filter shit outside of the search page and even on the search page you can't sort by updated or newest work.
we're losing money by letting people read this in english for free!
we wouldn't make enough money by licensing this into english!
Nah, people say this but something is always lost along the way every time this happens.
Nothing ever really replaced KAT or RARBG
worst part about mangadex dying is that it was the primary way I found out about new and interesting manga
they want to "fight piracy" to earn money but they kill off one of the biggest forms of advertisement? congrats now you have no money AND no relevancy
reach out to FFLPayments maybe
they're marketing themselves as a payment processor for the gun industry
Didnt they fuck up the UI like 5 years ago? I switched to Tachiyomi because its easier to read manga on my phone vertically than on my PC
I remember alot of Anon Babble lamenting the tranny devs for ruining MD
Mangadex sold out to the publishers, they made their bed and now they are probably thinking how this could have happened to them.
One's for sure, all that begging for donation money will blow up in their faces now that most of the popular manga is wiped from their site.
Yes but like an immune system we tend to repair most of it
These motherfuckers have been talking shit for years about "Muh Global Audience"
Shut the fuck up
Stubborn Japanese company shoots itself in the foot over "the principle of the thing." Fork found in kitchen.
5 years ago maybe but nowadays mangadex is the best reader by a mile
RARBG
i miss it so much...
Somehow I doubt Smith & Wesson's payment processor is going to stand up for the sale of loli manga.
If they had used a decentralized cloud storage to host the content, would DMCA even work to take down the content?
I find it a bit crazy too since Mangadex also lets the officials upload their works. Literally directs readers to their sites.
not S&W, more like "Joe Gunstore down the street"
also the guy doing the lawyering for them (the guy who told me to tell you this) seems like a cunnysseur
Guns and anime/manga ironically share a lot of similar issues
List of publishers in the DMCA so far:
Kadokawa Corporation
Kodansha Ltd.
Shueisha Inc.
Shogakukan Inc
Square Enix Co., Ltd.
Futabasha Publishers Ltd.
Hakusensha Inc.
What tf is KAT?
Not anymore!
Guess it's kodansha giving it trouble
kickass torrent
I legitimately wouldn't have bought most of my manga if I didn't read them for free online first.
Their business model is profitable especially thanks to fan translations making their products well-known to begin with.
taken down in 2016
Thats hella old. It was like 10 years ago
9/11 was 24 years ago and i still remember it fondly
This, it is a matter of time before piracy is crushed one way or another. Torrent sites can be ip blocked by providers now for exampel
that's what i assume too, but do they still have any legal rights to the series to do that? i thought raiku owned all of his series under his company now
A few months ago, overseas fans of a small manga that was about to get the axe mobilized to buy JP volumes in order to increase sales and potentially save it. It sold out in multiple places.
See that happening again without scanlations to make people aware that some series even exist? Me neither.
Mohammad...
I want God punching the nip seaboard so hard that it triggers the sakurajima, fuji and aira caldera eruptions alongside the earthquake and china invade it after it as Divine punishment against every old men and women in japan
Focus on the jap market and leave the much smaller USA market alone?
hire fans who have no idea how much their work is valued and severely underpay them
fire them when they realize it
rinse and repeat
Moshe..
this
not like manga being translated to ENGLISH will precent JAPANESE SPEAKERS TO PIRARW THE ENGLISH MATERIAL
fucking nip kikes.
Whats a subreddit?
Nyaa can still be used but it's still very inconvenient for scannies, who can't trivially update chapters, and for readers who has to hunt for new chapters on tracker.
How would a hypothetical manga host fare?
hosted in some shithole like russia or turkey
uses IPFS for file serving backend for resiliency
offers credit/karma/cumpoints for useless perks if you dedicate your bandwith and storage for decentralization, offer more credits for popular shits but let user pick the thing they wanna mirror
basically copy MD for UI
Oh thank god. Dragon Ball Super is still avaliable
retard
am i fitting in guiz??
High quality? Really? REALLY?
Have you even looked at the trash that makes up 99% of what's posted on Mangadex?
MTL, shit even worse than MTL, obvious Latinx translating into broken English, and even the "proper" English translators are garbage in most cases; either full of cringe zoomer slang that's somehow worse than official TLs, or just plain unreadable thanks to their goddamn awful typesetting. And don't even get me started on those groups that think it's a good idea to do retarded shit like censor manga just to funnel people into their retarded paywalled sites.
I've been reading manga for over 25 years, and the golden era is dead and buried, to the point that even the Spanish scene is putting out better quality and doing it faster (Outside when they try to make their own English translations). The scene nowadays is an absolute fucking joke.
Ponko became a 500 yen coin...
I'd beat the shit out of you reddit newfaggot niggers if I ever saw you trannies IRL
I pay the fair price that art deserves, $0
you dont have to be a redditor to know it exists and its basic structure anon.
stop being a schizo retard.
you aint gonna do shit you fat fucking pussy
look at your pathetic ass trying to act tough over internet tribalism, you're a fucking loser
I can't understand this train of thinking, I should be paid to read the thoughts and works of lesser men not the other way around
NYOO
Has anyone noticed certain titles disappearing from the library? I am following Shiori Experience, which is shown as reading on the butchered manga page, but it does not appear in my library, on any of the tabs
I have noticed it, but only in that the title randomly changes for no fucking reason. Is that the case for you, or do you actually mean the series straight up vanished entirely? If so, I don't think I've seen that since Mangadex went down and turned into the shitty site it is now.
oh god i was hoping only the chapters are gone, i'm sure im forgetting a few titles i read but never bothered to learn the JP names
Hell, Anon Babble did the same with Watamote (which is now also gone from mangadex), saved it from the axe or authors quitting
It was completely missing from the library. I exported all my library content manually, and the number of titles matched the one MD reported (403 titles). After removing the manga from the library on its page and readding in back, it appeared in the library and the number of titles increased to 404 in reflect this.
Looks like a UI bug, and not something malicious, but now I'm really starting to get paranoid about not even being able to export all my follows
That's always been the case with piracy.
Which one?
Meh the official stuff isn't good to begin with, but I'm at least willing to give mangplus a try.
I'm still pissed about this shit
This is the reward they get for trying to appease publishers
Mangadex gives you links to where you can support the series officially
So funnily enough they are losing sales by doing this
So, panda?
How is it the one manga that hasn't had a new chapter translated in over a year, is the one thing in my list that didn't get pulled from Mangadex?