Is it possible to have a legal "Mangadex"?

Simulpub is getting more and more popular. Some manga even got a simulpub before fan translation. But the problem is they're way too scattered. Forget about the cost for now, it's physically and mentally exhausting to keep track of all the manga available out there. There's no convenient way to read them all.

Monetization is also a complete nightmare if you want to read a lot of manga. Mangaplus and Azuki have subscription-based model, but others like K-Manga (Kodansha), Mangaup (Square Enix) and Comikey still use the archaic system that's used in Japan: the COIN system that we all hate. And there are over 100 minor manga publishers out there with no access to the global market yet. Even if they do have access, how much would it cost for a person to subscribe to them all?

You need around $45 a month to watch ALL seasonal anime legally, but it even possible to have a super library for legal manga? let alone making it user-friendly with affordable cost & ease of access (no region locking). Even in the H industry, the mighty Fakku only partnered up with Wani and no other publication.

Are people still updating things on bakaupdates? You could do something like that, just with links again.

Rofl. This isn't even the first time mangadex died. How can you not have prepared for this lol

No. Maybe at some point in the past there might have been a chance, but not now that there's multiple manga hosting sites.
Companies either don't understand that online publishing only works when there's a one-stop subscription, or they do understand but don't care because they don't want to sacrifice their exclusives.
The best we can do at this point is not put all of our eggs in one basket like with mangadex.

Companies either don't understand that online publishing only works when there's a one-stop subscription,

Explain why it works in Japan.

Go to one stop actual store

Buy manga you want on shelf

Yeah I have no idea

We were talking about digital manga distribution, which dominates the Japanese market. There is no single subscription that has everything.

It's almost like they're trying to get basement dwellers to go outside and touch grass instead of streaming pirated manga.

The only reasonable explaination for this many people getting filtered by one fucking takedown is that they're all zoomers, and zoomers are actually all retarded.

there's no extra money and time needed for translations/typesetting since JP people can read JP

they have years of in-house data showing how their individual sites with free access to the first few chapters + the latest one is generally enough of a preview to get people to buy enough ebooks/volumes

Japan doesn't mind the coin model of paying for online manga

JP readers will drop 3 USD on ebooks willy nilly

Nips pirate less on average than Westerners and Japanese companies already have enough market research within Japan to figure out how Japanese people will buy things. Westerners don't act the same way. They haven't jumped onto ebooks at all compared to Japan and paperbacks are a larger investment of money. Japan will have to implement something completely different than their models back home in order to get returns on localization whil also combating piracy but they still haven't figured it out yet. I do think the "every publisher under one large subscription service" has the highest chance of success but good luck getting even 4 separate companies to sign that contract. Especially Shueisha, whose singular simulpub platform Mangaplus doesn't even "need" the help of other publishers' titles yet would do the most to help sell an umbrella subscription service to international pirates.

muh prepare

yeah sure you could autistically archive the entire site
but what about the future moron?
the centralized hub where scanlators upload and update new content isnt trustworthy and the content providers wont use it
thats the fucking problem
sure you could join 3 thousand discord groups or blogs, but thats not something you can realistically manage if you arent a NEET and some more
also some groups might just outright die
thats always the problem with such happenings

are you really that fucking retarded or just trying to fit in with muh based oldfags

Boohoo paypiggy

thats the fucking problem

Maybe for you. Sane people found the solution that solves the issue once and for all.

Manga plus works great honestly. Free simulpub for the last 3 chapters + free first 3 chapters. It doesn't an amazing job at hooking you, feels fair and, if you don't pirate the rest, their subscription is relatively fair
Mangaup is the opposite

Impossible because America only cares about shonenshit, especially battle shonen manga, so josei and shoujo manga will never get simulpub. Not only that but Japanese manga publishers are still both enemies and rivals to each other. They refuse to work together just like how Netfix is discovering that Hollywood studios no longer want to cooperate with Netflix and want to become independent.

living in nipland and being fluent in chink chong is not a solution available for most people

Isn't MangaPlaza fairly successful at selling female oriented series? Partially because there's less competition from fan translators.

You don't have to live there and translations were never a replacement for learning the language.

Redpill me on manga plus. I don't trust it

legal

It's called choosing a jurisdiction that respects readers, the publishers are having their cake and eating it too.

It lets you read the first 3 chapters of a series and the last 3 simulpub for free (sometimes is more than 6 chapters). For the rest, you either pirate like a normal person would do, or pay for subscription that lets you read the rest of the chapters
The manga chapters you see dumped on Sunday are from manga plus

For the rest, you either pirate like a normal person would do, or pay for subscription

The normal approach is to read the volumes.

Mu understanding?
Appreciate me pirating your shit instead.

Mangaplus has the only working model.

That is good as well, but in certain countries some series aren't published physically or the volumes are way behind

Digital volumes exist.

This isn't about mangadex

Because Japan has EXTREME consumerism and pro-corporate culture. even worse than America.
They spend most of their money for hobbies and things that interest them. They're too risk averse to invest, so they spend, spend and spend.

Is that why the manga market is so large and successful?

It seems logistically impossible to unite hundreds of publishers under 1 giant global publisher. I just can't imagine it.
Maybe if the Big 5 cooperate to create manga's "Steam"...

Is it possible to have a legal "Mangadex"?

Wasn't MD's endgame to go legit?

only 2 options:
1. Just like how in any bookstore in America you can find books from dozens or hundreds of publishers, there needs to be a Steam but for manga with literally everything on it. The only way you beat piracy is with convenience.

2. Host the website in a country that does not give a shit about DMCA. bytescare.com/blog/countries-that-ignore-dmca

Forget about the cost for now

Haha. No.

Most likely but thankfully they failed.

There's no need to worry about DMCA when you're the legal platform, bro.

The simulpub chapters available to keep up hype and to introduce readers to everything else in the catalog. If you're good at keeping up with it you never need to pay a cent. If you do want to read older chapters the whole library subscription is 2~3 dollars a month. It's very likely it's running at a loss because it's using the same logic of why piracy works. The overall increased exposure and the readers who do buy manga being introduced to the rest of their catalog leads to more volume sales. However, Mangaplus literally has the top selling IPs of all manga history, so it's no quesion that they can afford to run their simulpub at a loss.

What kind of bullshit is that? Kadokawa's manga division is just as big.

The bookstore culture is what actually keeps the manga industry alive. Bookstores order a few volumes of every new release and are actually allowed to return them to publishers after a few weeks if it looks like they're not selling to protect too heavy losses from choosing to stock lesser-known works. This way independent bookstores can be super ubiquitous throughout the country and people can just walk into any bookstore and buy manga. That's why those first week sales are key for manga tracking, if a manga is underperforming, the unsold books will literally be returned to the publsiher within a month or two.

there needs to be a Steam but for manga with literally everything on it.

Ebook stores already exist. There's no need to reinvent the wheel.

There's many parts of Japan without bookstores left. You'd have to drive two hours to the nearest Aeon mall.
Physical sales are shrinking and digital is the only source for growth.

Mangaup

I hope they die, the quicker, the better.

You know it's complete nonsense when the Japanese MangaUp app has the same level of censorship.

What circle of hell are we in?

Where exactly is the subscription for Steam?

id buy manga if the value proposition was there for the consumer. companies seem to think they can force consumers to buy their product reguardless? this would be true if they were selling medicine but they arent.