What do you value more?
Style
Plot
Characters
Visuals
Worldbuilding
Substance
Themes
Message
Style or substance?
If I don't find it entertaining then it's shit and a waste of my time.
Entertainment value goes in style, I think
by those metrics characters > themes > the rest are equal
how much should i value Gosick?
Overarching plot kind of sucks, but the mystery subplots are great
Style is substance. Not all of substance is style
I'd say 6/10 for style
No anime has ever had any actual substance so it's better to have style than nothing going for it at all.
You're conflating quality and existence
this is the most retarded arbitrary thread ever made
Worldbuilding falls under substance you moron
How?
retarded mongrel ape
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How much would you pay to listen to a simp shriek his crush's name for 20 minutes?
This shonen shit ruined the show
If you have all of the former without any of the latter, you still end up with a fun anime.
If you have all of the latter but none of the former, you end up with a political twittertard comics.
Dividing these different storytelling aspects into style or substance is moronic. They all can have style and they all can have substance. What themes or "message" a work has does not make it deep or important. That's a very juvenile approach to media.
Then what is deep?
It's how you tell the story, not what it is.
So good equals deep?
Good is too subjective and vague of a word to be meaningful. Deep is too but not nearly as much.
You're just synonimizing deep with good by what you're saying.
Deep implies good but good doesn't necessarily imply deep, ain't it?
So deep equals great?
By level of importance:
Plot
Characters
Themes
Worldbuilding
Message
Visuals
I'm curious why you consume anime over books if visuals are in the bottom
Unless you don't include direction in visuals
Depends on the genre I guess. If the show is action heavy visuals take precedence over message. Slice of life stuff doesn't need worldbuilding so visuals could take precedence over it as well
narrative, then message, plot, characters, themes, visuals (also writing style). rock bottom is worldbuilding
entertainment is a whole different dimension. I consume fun sloppa but if the story tries to soapbox or act like it's something more I'll put my critic hat on
that's why I only read the comics. LNs are nice but the show don't tell in 2d adds a whole new layer. I pretty much only judge anime by the ost
writing style
prose?
yeah
Hate to be that guy, but both. Too much substance and you get something well constructed but boring like Moribito, too much style and you get vapid slop like Champloo.
The sunflower samurai is the friends we made along the way
What themes/message does anime even have?
War=bad
become wagie
Nippon numba one
It is so shallow
why not both?
If you focus on themes so much you have GITS 2
TTGL
this, if i like it then it has style and substance, ifn't then it's absent
Style is Substance
You have no idea what "style over substance" means retard.
Please enlighten me
Rapechads.
It's all about rapechads for me. That's the single most important thing.