So what's the verdict? Is he really that awful of a character?
Useless MCs / kanokari
Stop reading this garbage.
He's alright, just a little goofy. Needs to stop being such a wimp too.
It’s his birthday btw.
Die, cucker. Happy birthday
It is.
He may be a total simp, but that isn't his worst flaw. If you reread the msnga, you'll realize he's simply a petty 11yo kid mentally speaking, sees Kibe as an idiot he should have severed bonds with, behaves like a total asshole towards the only one who loves him and Sumi and Mini are just useful tools for his endgoal.
A character like this is their own worst enemy. It’s one thing to take responsibility for your actions when needed it’s another to do it when it’s not deserved. Also his rental girlfriend is a weed that should have been plucked from his life so long ago but now it’s too late.
Being a gemini born the 1st day of a month...
His pathetic simp identity is his front self, because his true self as a 2 faced gemini is being a spiteful, selfish and suicidal psychotic ass.
Speaking of useless MCs.
bwaaaaaah wanna die
sulks for not being able to own to his promises.
when oneitis isn't there, he engages into bad decisions.
when he takes initiative (for his oneitis), he reveals himself as an extremely petty, selfish and psychopathic kid, scaring even other people (teacher, homo, mama, writer's ex and detective).
Hates people as much as he's hated, yet doesn't do anything.
I hate this guy. But honestly not the worst offender I’ve seen. He takes action in some things. I’d lump him with Subaru, Rudeus, Yuuki Rito, Meliodas, Hoshino Aqua, and Mitsumune in terms of hateability.
This nigger has the two best girls of the show begging him to be with them and yet, he treats them like shit for no reason and prefers to try his luck with the autistic girl that doesn't even know how she feels because muh boobs muh ass and to top it all off, you are supposed to feel bad for him feel empathy for him, at least others scumbags in romcoms like the School Days MC were made with the intention of being unlikeable so you can't hate them that much, this faggot was made with the intention of being relatable lmao
Kazuya merely tours in NTR. Reiji thrives in it.
intention of being relatable
Yeah like I can see how being horny during depression or jerking off after a heartbreak is a thing that guys do. Degenerate, but relatable.
If it is a story about how he grows out of that and gets therapy, then that's fine. But by chapter 3 the dude and Mizuhara locked in their fake relationship agreement, which, albeit stupid, made it harder to ditch her and move on to Ruka.
The MC is dumb for wanting to simp and to remain a virgin, but after rereading I can't fully place the blame on him. Mizuhara was literally responsible for half of the lying and stringing him along.
Dunno. Reiji didn't want to accept Nagi's past at first when his ex-classmates brought her junior gravure pics, sulked the moment he found out she got fired from her group, and got beyond horrified after hearing all the tings that were done to Nagi when she was Haru/Mayu/Kirari.
And another thing i didn't pick up at first is that he may have ended up crying after resolving to "take her to the sea" right after she admitted her inability to feel angry at her uncle, because he took a huge drink of water. He may have felt himself cucked and hurt (and that shit may also explain why he spitefucked his teacher. He was hurt and seething with rage).
Let's not forget the period during the timeskip where his oneitis went back to be a gravure model... knowing the implications... let's just say Kekji was a bigger cuck than Kekzuya.
Subaru, Rudeus, Yuuki Rito, Meliodas, Hoshino Aqua, and Mitsumune
None of them have imagined NTR in their heads so they are automatically better.
Picrel is the ultimate doormat.
this, end the suffering, deprive the cuck author of your attention
Then KEKzuya should belong to the karami zakari mc, Gotou(*), SCVMji and KEKji group.
(*) latest chapter he went on an incel revenge against fuckboi Inukai (amd using Prez to make shit worse) bc muh Akito, even though fuckboi may have done nothing to her first, and second, Gotou didn't consider Akito's body is hers and she has agency over it.
On Tuesday it will be the definitive moment on whether it's over or there's more suffering to come.
Sadly it's Niwatori and kino makeout scene never.
Funniest shit is that there are useless MCs who scored cute bitches by the end. Pic related also applies. Basically what if Kazuya instead of renting Chizuru, dated a less sociopathic Makima/Nagi lookalike with abandonment traumas who's slightly older than him and he knew in a rundown cinema theatre that was about to close down in 7 days.
(Reiji also counts as a useless fuck who got his way, but at the very last after he could finally accept Nagi's true self, and his oneitis being used and broken isn't something that should be looked over, no matter if that shit was bc of Mao's influence).
What does that shit say? Should Kazuya stop pretending to act like something he will never be, stubbornly try to make a lie true, and instead accept himself as someone useless, just try his luck a last time by being himself and accept Chizuru as how she actually is?
Also if we go meta... we know about a useless irl mangaka mangaka who got his way in an overly spectacular way. A reminder Naoko Takeuchi was considered a hot shot amongst 90s mangaka and some gigachad authors tried, or even had relationships with her (one of them being YUA and Ah! My Goddess author, Naoko had a traumatizing relationship with him), however she chose to marry and spend her days with an author mangaka that is the epitome of a useless sleazeball: Hiatus x Hiatus author.
whether it's over
Vol. 50/Ch500 milestone says otherwise.
or there's more suffering to come.
Misery and shameless Rukawanking coming soon because of that ruka bday fundraising shit. She's now the default (provisional) girlfriend and nothing can be done about that, unless the manga reaches the "last 5" announcement.
Sadly it's Niwatori and kino makeout scene never.
Rejection or a no answer, in both cases, Chizuru will do 2 shits Kazuya will take as a total rejection: give him back the ring and refund Kazuya with the previous rental dates' money.
Something has to justify the upcoming rukawankfest and Mami entering into the Kazubowl as the 2nd contender who accepted her feelings loudly (Sumi doesn't count because she said it as a whisper and Kazuya misheard it).
Sad how Ruka made a post about Kazuya birthday.
She sound o happy for him, yet he hates everything about her.
Hizumi is a literal mommy gf. That's what these manga all have, a goddess-coded girl and some sniveling broken dude groveling at their feet. A pretty shameless form of entertainment if you ask me.
What about girlfailures? I always thought Kotoko was a female Kazuya before Kazuya.
Caught up with that manga btw. Mommy gf has abandonment issues (muh "bad memories", "hateful memories", her resenting MC could someday become a decent guy and her not taking well MC hastily breaking up with her over a misunderstanding caused by MC's childhood friend).
Author admitting he's a fan of Boy's Abyss and its author was the trigger warning for more trainwreck coming in the future... MC's brocon oneechan he got estranged from ENTERed in the latest chapter. If you thought Yuri or Ruka were obsession machines, just look at her. Have her room plastered with photos of her otouto (and them together too) and using an oneeshota shirt are obvious redflags.
he's a good character BECAUSE his personality is (somewhat) awful
female Kazuya
Holy shit no. Kotoko won by episode 14.
Meanwhile Rent-a-GF guy HAS FUMBLED FOR 8 FUCKING YEARS.
No romcom should ever suffer that level of stretching.
Kotoko won by episode 14.
Nah. She won after gathering balls to call out Irie's aspergers' bullshit and bitchslap him.
And Kotoko wasn't that much of a femsimp as Kazuya, she actually considered the long haired fuckboi nigga when Irie was being such an asshole.
The one who was more like Kazuya was Kinnosuke, the eternally friendzoned one.
he's a good character BECAUSE his personality is (somewhat) awful
More like there's actually a backstory and reason why he is like that. He is awful because his family is awful to begin with. A generational cycle.
You mean the Reji alt account on Twitter?
Not the popoiq500 one, but the s_ruka_official account (Ruka's official account, handled by the kanokari manga PR staff).
Yeah this is a good pick up. Would prefer some misery and mixed in with romance like this, and an unhealthy dose of guyfailure and broken women. To my backlog along with Can Gals Love Otaku, Kanojo ni Uwaki Sareteita Ore ga, or Saikin Yatotta Maid ga Ayashii. Last one is a full on shota fantasy lmao. Other ongoing romcoms like Cuckoos, Mayotuna, Himaten, Tonari no Seki Mitekuru, Danjoru are all fine too just they don't quite hit that depressed MC feel. Willing to seek other recs like it.
A reference to the infamous Chizuru's toilet scene.
That girl Uka from Honey Lemon Soda she is a little pathetic but so moe you could not possibly hate her. Not characteristically despicable like OP. The male LI is like her social tutor. And she outchads more often.
I recently started this and got caught up.
He isn't a good character, but not nearly as bad as people claim and a lot of the shit he gets accused of is outright false. Sometimes its other characters that are also badly written. For instance, he does act like a retard in the current date, but so is Chizuru who basically became a robot after the resort arc.
Is not a character I hate, it's the author of the manga.
There are mangas and animes where you can instantly tell that the author is a pathetic, sweaty weab and their personality is laid bare in the characters they write. And this one is it to a T
popoiq500
Is this Reji personal account where that he uses for non-manga stuff? How many accounts does this guy have?
Her account show than she Is becoming a influencer in canon.
Would be fun if one of her fans told her they watched Kazuya in a rental date with chorizo.
It doesn't help that his works are engineered to be as tropey as possible, I mean the one about a trap in an idol group might have been the most creative. He really is a weeb's weeb. Mainstream studios are buddy buddy with him, his friend Hiroyuki now riding in his wake.
It's a dismantling of tropes!
Nah it just means it ends up being its very own criticism.
Ruka's mistake is gonna be flaunting her boyfriend in social media. The day someone tells her what her "boyfriend" was doing when she isn't looking around, Ruka will not only be turned into a nationwide cuckquean, Kazuya will be cancelled.
Imagine the possibilities.
Yes, but sometimes says some shit about kanokari or posts early drafts there.
Speaking about kazuya's bday. This is what a japanon in 5ch said
(Post #204)
Was today the day Kazuya was born by mistake?
It actually makes the situation very sad. Basically the only account that remembered Kazuya's bday was Ruka's account, not even the author could care.
Yes and no. Anons will not admit it but he likely has more balls and determination than a third, maybe even half of Anon Babble
Chorizo acting carrer would suffer too since they would cancel her too and would be banned from the rental app.
Would be fun if date Kazuya would lead to get her life ruined, she would be forced to stay with him because she would be cancelled.
I think his trial girlfriend has more balls than him.
That would be unironically cool, the only problem I see is that she is more well known on Tik Tok and as far as I know she doesn't use Twitter. It would also be cool if Mami had one "official" account too given how she uses Twitter a lot
Then Mini will out him and Scum will at last become an enemy of women.
We live in a world where so many better series have to get axed while this shit lives on all because you cucks keep reading this garbage.
He isn't even a character.
This deteriorating story needs a full author swap out and rewrite in order to save it.
Only Ruka remembers his birthday
Damm, even outside of the manga she still is the best girl
The impression I got when I picked this up is that people hate Kazuya and Reiji specifically for calling them out, for breaking the high school escapist tradition and shining a spotlight on the actual lives of adult loser romcom readers, and these kinds of threads do nothing to dispel my suspicion. Most of you haven't even gotten as far as Kazuya since you won't bother asking a girl out for fear that she'll string you along for a month then dump you and make fun of you
Funny how the nips agree with you.
Go read Ruka account.
as far as I know she doesn't use Twitter
She has a private twitter exclusive for her friends and family tho
since you won't bother asking a girl out for fear that she'll string you along for a month then dump you and make fun of you
The impression I get is people do a lot of projecting about their own love life when they say stuff like this. You have to had at least asked a girl out once in your life right? We are all adults there’s no shame in trying and failing.
it's the foundational story of the manga this thread's about, you retard
and I've learned for a fact that when an anon repeats the first few words of your post and accuses others of projecting the nail of the head has been hit
I hope mangadex gets killed so I don't have to see this shit on the front page anymore. Why EOP translators like this trashy manga fills me with such contempt for them.
This anti-escapist message you contrarians keep project on this garbage is such a reach. For starters, Kazuya wouldn't have multiple women after him if he was supposed to be a stand in for your average adult loser.
contrarians
you're the ones who hate the very popular manga that is able to run for 50 volumes
if he was a loser like me then why do girls talk to him unlike me
because he's less of a loser than you?
Kazuya still reacts as you expect from someone overly fixated into one woman irl. Disgusted at those who are overly clingy to him, fearful of his ex, oblivious/machiavelic towards people he can use to get close to his oneitis (Sumi, Mini).
From those "multiple women", 2 keep their feelings for themselves, one is navigating through them while her family situation is reaching a crisis and only one is openly pursuing him
We were actually dating a year and handling it long distance, we had to drive 3 states over to see each other, so it was only a dozen or so times. She was sweet, but I wasn’t confident in myself to see a future with her so if anything I strung her along. Yes it was scummy. Well that was 2021 and I didn’t really get with anyone new since. She moved on however.
I can’t even say I hate Reiji anymore, this romslop has a bit of everything, comfy kino and petty drama. Guilty reader as charged.
Mangadex hasn’t hosted new translations of kanokari for some time. Unless you were a third worlder.
Kazuya is a self-insert for gigasimps fixated on their onetits. He is more of a loser than your average romcom MC because he is meant to be relatable to even more pathetic people. If it was truly anti-escapist, it would treat the girl as actual people not as waifus to be won. Also, you think this slop was first to use miscommunication and drama to keep relationship from forming?
what about girlfailures
To be fair, Kazuya is more like a woman if anything and Chizuru is the male-coded stoic who wears the pants in the relationship.
Kazuya would have been impregnated by now long before he met male Chizuru. It’s the reality of being born a woman.
Did he really get to hear what happened to her when she was with her uncle? I mean when she was talking about her past those black speech boxes with all of the fucked shit look like it was just a flashback thoughts in her head. I'm sure though Reiji figured things went on farther than just junior/gravure photoshoots though.
So do we ever find out if Chizuru is used goods?
Also Is Kazuya a virgin(i know that retarded) to ask but)?
Did he really get to hear what happened to her when she was with her uncle?
She talked to him about it and the uncle later confirmed it. Nagi isn’t going to say directly how they told her to suck their dicks and then she did it she just said she “did as she was told”. Reiji was more upset about that than her losing her parents which was what really destroyed her not the prostituting and the uncle abandoning her.
Everything he does is for the simp grind and not actual improvement of his own self. How can the author expect this to be good messaging? The character can’t become insightful or clever because the author has no capacity of those things himself.
Kazuya's birthday is ok the first day of pride month
What did Reji meant by this?
ok gotcha. Two things I never understood was first when we see the flashbacks with her uncle at the disaster center she hyperventilated twice when asked if she wanted to live with her friend(why) and the second was Nagi at the end telling the uncle that she is thankful for dirtying Reiji just a little.
Reiji was more upset about that than her losing her parents which was what really destroyed her not the prostituting and the uncle abandoning her.
What destroyed her was uncle accusing her for the death of her parents. That was the other shit that made Reiji assmad.
ok gotcha. Two things I never understood was first when we see the flashbacks with her uncle at the disaster center she hyperventilated twice when asked if she wanted to live with her friend(why)
friend is from the disaster area.
and the second was Nagi at the end telling the uncle that she is thankful for dirtying Reiji just a little.
For making Reiji want to murder him for her sake. One of the series core themes was about how far and low would people fall for a future with their loved ones. Chako ranted about the thing people fear the most wasn't being dirtied, but being hurt or rejected to Esemori when she called out her bullshit. And let's not forget what truly happened at the lovers abyss and how far Yuuko went simply to be with Akira.
and the second was Nagi at the end telling the uncle that she is thankful for dirtying Reiji just a little.
kek. Nagi was literally thanking her uncle for the experience. It just shows she can’t stand other people unless they are as messed up as she is. She would have never stayed with Reiji otherwise.
why yes, I will always be a staunch supporter of Total Weebnigger Death
Part of me thinks she is pretending to be retarded. But probably not.
kek. Nagi was literally thanking her uncle for the experience. It just shows she can’t stand other people unless they are as messed up as she is. She would have never stayed with Reiji otherwise.
It's literally what Chunko said almost at the beginning. People would rather dirty themselves over being rejected (or hurt as RAWs put) and then Shino'oka confirmed way after. Reiji was lucky Nagi wasn't a femcel shit like Incelmori who couldn't accept what Yuuko was capable of doing for a future with him and chose to memoryhole that event bc it wasn't like his schizo delusions.
love Mini