I think my least favorite type of character is the one who takes nothing in their life seriously, has no discipline in any domain, and yet is miraculously the universe’s greatest warrior. This character seems to be in nearly every franchise now.
Our culture’s cynicism in all things forgot you actually have to care about things like training, or a cause, or something.
Frieren takes her magic very seriously, if anything she neglects everything else other than her magic knowledge since she knows it will all go away with time.
We never really see her trying or taking her magic seriously. She's just a Mary Sue that the world of the show proves correct at every opportunity.
We saw her meditating for years
Long lifetime of hard work is mentioned but isnt shown. What would make it believable is actual character growth, but there is none happening along with the effort. Frieren is exactly the same person before she is found by Flamme, and then 1000 years later, after she sat under a tree suppressing mana or something.
Even if it is worldbuilding of an immortal character, it is still hack writing, because it produced a mary sue.
sometimes I think people on Anon Babble are retarded then I go onto other boards to find shit like this
I don't think character development is necessary in order to show the improvement of the skill of a character.
This type is a self insert for cat ladies, midwits and insecure zoomers. Don't think about it too much.
YOU never seen it because youre a dumb fuck with the attention spam of a gold fish
I think my least favorite type of character is the one who takes nothing in their life seriously, has no discipline in any domain, and yet is miraculously the universe’s greatest warrior.
t.Serie
who takes nothing in their life seriously,
nothing
She is on constant low energy surrounding analysis
Around demons never relax.
The character you're looking at is a product of a thousand years of magic training and adventuring, where so much time has passed that this training has gone from legend to myth. Frieren is quite literally a product from another era, one that only a few people on the planet still remember.
As since she's long since passed the "I must take everything ultra-seriously" phase of her life.
Frieren takes killing demons seriously.
She's has lots of mana but is pretty untrained in the very beginning. In the beginning of the hero's party she's pretty rusty and doesn't have that much combat knowledge. She is op at magic at the end but that's part of the story. Her party killed the demon king. She's shit at melee combat and she would've died twice if not for stark from where I last read.
Frieren fans get pissed off when you tell them the truth about their mediocre series lmao.
even if it is worldbuilding of an immortal character, it is still hack writing, because it produced a mary sue
...what? Having eternal youth and not dying to illness or injuries will make you overpowered by default. The only way to stagnate is if you have no will to live and kill yourself due to self-neglect. Even if she didn't train (she did, but let's assume she didn't), living gives her experience by default. How does that make her a Mary Sue?
The series constantly proving her right? Her never being in danger of dying once throughout the show? That only happened once in 100 something chapters with the shadow warrior.
None of that is shown.
This is barely coherent. You're baiting or the kind of person who thinks you can tell a person's skill based on "how serious they look to me".
this dwarf trained blacksmithing for 100 years
he makes a toy hammer once for fun
OMG, he doesn't take crafting seriously
get over yourself
We're not shown her training for thousands of years. What would make it believable is actual character growth, but there is none happening along with the effort. Frieren is exactly the same person before she is found by Flamme, and then 1000 years later, after she sat under a tree suppressing mana or something.
Even if it is worldbuilding of an immortal character, it is still hack writing, because it produced a mary sue.
Expecting power growth from someone introduced as a war vet is just weird. You're treating it like the same thing as someone who's heal a staff for the first time and needs the training arcs to be believably strong.
We're not shown her training for thousands of years.
Why do you need to 'show' her sitting suppressing mana? Do you need an entire episode of sitting to get that it happened? Isn't that stupid?
Even if it is worldbuilding of an immortal character, it is still hack writing, because it produced a mary sue.
You're just picking every random buzzword you know and saying them at random. It is not a real post.
Because actually showing her training would make her feats feel more earned and believable. Do you not understand "show don't tell?"
stop feeding the trolls
Looks like forgot to renew your media literacy cert.
Having basic standards for show don't tell is bad now apparently.
Is it ntr if a girl cheats on a girl with another girl?
Many congratulations on the success of your bait, sir.
Can't refute an argument
Call it bait
Every time.
True. If you think about it, most successful people are constantly busy and have certain habits that lead to their success. The idea that you can become some kind of master by casually going on side quests and lazing around for the rest of the week is a modern ideal.
Did you even get past the first episode?
She's always searching for magic and reading up on grimoires.
We're not shown her training for thousands of years.
Literal montage showing her training for hundreds of years.
kek
20+ posts all replying to the moronic baitpost seriously
ignored
one post calling the moronic baitpost out for what it is
UHHH WHERE'S YOUR ARGUMENT????
I've replied to each one and refuted them.
What would make it believable is actual character growth, but there is none happening along with the effort. Frieren is exactly the same person before she is found by Flamme, and then 1000 years later, after she sat under a tree suppressing mana or something.
>Even if it is worldbuilding of an immortal character, it is still hack writing, because it produced a mary sue.
This is only in the beginning, there's no weight to it, and its only there to establish her character. There's no character growth to go along with it?
name ONE(1) character and i bet they have at least one thing they care about
ngl you should kill yourself
Moron
Frieren is shit, but the problems with both the character and the story go way beyond not showing training montages. This is pure shounenfaggotry, thinking you have to show le hard work in order to tell a compelling story. The vast majority of shounen anime would be better off if they cut out their training montages, so that's one of the very few good decisions Frieren's author made.
mentioned but isn't shown
Good. 1000 years of watching someone read would have been incredibly boring.
Nta, but your point is incredibly dumb, that's the point, she had no growth, she neglected her bonds and other things that could have helped her develop in favor of magic autism, so she exits that phase as incredibly strong but childish and stunted. The point is that the story forces her to aknowledge that things happen beyond her small world defined by autism, and she has to develop during it to accept this.
Dude it's meant to be shit! That's the point!
only in the beggining
montage covering centuries