I'm 25 and growing a little more cynical with each year. I missed out on watching TTGL as a teen and riding the hype...

why have there been so many TTGL threads lately? did something new happen? anyway posting best girl

Just watch it then switch to the latest seasonal garbage. You will become even more cynical. If you don't, wait a few more years and try again.

You should watch it to verify whether your heart has frozen over or if it's still capable of feeling things

You suck, like as a person

You sound kind of jaded and a bit bitter.
Maybe TTGL will cure it.

The new Death Battle episode had Simon in it

Go to Anon Babble, you'll fit right in.

I watched this show when it aired back then, I was 19, most amazing anime watching experience for sure, this show just hits all the spots and is still in my top 10

don't be so skeptical, it only takes couple of eps to get a feel, it hits hard already on ep 1

whether your heart has frozen over or if it's still capable of feeling things

Feeling anything but testosterone-fueled rage is cringe and makes you weak. Isn't that what TTGL promotes? I know there's a scene where the protag is feeling anxious and his mentor starts beating him and yelling at him to get himself together and this is framed as the best advice ever and the perfect solution to any personal crisis. Maybe there's some context I'm missing but I doubt it.
The message I gather from this is that if you ever feel less than perfectly confident in yourself, you're a burden to everyone else and they're in their right to beat and yell at you, and if that doesn't motivate you to become more confident, you're worthless and should kill yourself. So if anything it seems the show actually promotes not feeling too much of the wrong emotions. Am I wrong?

You've definitely taken a very emotional stance over an interpretation of something you apparently don't even have surface level knowledge of

I've seen this scenario before and I generally don't have much respect to whatever title features it. I think that only serves to make people more miserable by spreading the impression that mental problems can just be retard-bruteforced away, and if you can't do that then there must be something wrong with you, which leads people to hate themselves more and sometimes contribute to suicide rates. I can't say for certain whether TTGL is one of such pieces of media, but what I heard makes it seem that way.

style-over-substance

TTGL is about the "indomitable human spirit" at the surface level, it's a critique of the foolhardiness of utilitarian thinking in how making the "hard but neccessary decisions" like Rossiu often was just playing into the hands of the Antispirals that would fail anyways, or even the very despair over the Spiral Nemesis that the Antispirals had that they reflected back into the Universe rather than trying for a future where spiral races could coexist.

In many ways it's the antithesis of Chinese works like The Three Body Problem which insist on hard, brutal rules in a unforgiving universe, and it's actually quite a prevalent theme in alot of Japanese works like Fate/Zero or Xenoblade 2.

But whether you resonate with it or not is going to depend on your own worldview, and given the zeitgeist has become increasingly nihilistic and right-wing, of course many zoomers like you would have more in common with the Anti-Spirals than Simon.

And if you talk about the real world relevance, the idea of the Spiral Nemesis is just a reiteration of the tragedy of the commons, and wether it can be avoided through cooperation and dialogue or if it is inevitable if left to the masses, and should be rather left to absolute rulers to maintain.

Once again, the ideological conflict between this is pretty much one of the fundamental differences between the West and the East right now, in the Post 1945 world of global treaties and institutions, or the absolute supremacy of the Qin Dynasty that oppressed everyone to bring order.

A teen?
Bro you were 6 when it first aired

There's literally a subplot related to that after the protagonist getting all depressed and unable to pilot, and it gets solved in a good way but you will never know because you are a faggots that believes the series is too unmature for you

Awful blogpost

TTGL is to anime what Eminem is to music

you sound like a gigantic whiny baby, so you should be able to empathize with simons character development

Don't watch it.

Quit essayfagging and just watch the show already. You'd be at episode 12 now had you started watching from the time you made this thread.

this seems pretty boring and unexciting to me

Or don't watch it then, I guess. Fuck, how indecisive can you be? Are you expecting me to fellate the show by vividly describing how it's going to blow your mind and make you ejaculate consecutively for its entire runtime? It's just a good show. Watch it instead of fucking around on Anon Babble.

You should watch it because it's cool. I don't see the point in trying to analyze it deeply, it's as you said, style over substance rule of cool stuff, you watch it to have fun and it's good.

cool

fun

good

OP is clearly too jaded for such things.

No, that's not what it's about. Kamina represents the reckless nature of constantly moving forward. A trait that helped everyone fight against their oppressors and inspired Simon to keep moving forward (A trait that he's always had, but lacked the confidence in himself to believe it). But the truth is, Kamina isn't a perfect leader or person and ended up dying in the end.

Rossiu is the opposite of Kamina. If Kamina is running ahead without thinking, then Rossiu is not taking a step until you've figured everything out. It made him a better leader, but paranoid and willing to sacrifice others to maintain the status quo.

Through both of these men, Simon learns to become a perfect middle ground. When he tries to once again burn forward with reckless abandon against the anit spiral, it doesn't work. Because that's what happens in every universe and is why the anti spiral exists. Simon had the power to stand on top of the universe and duke it out with god, to evolve the human genome until they were all immortal and forever surpassing their limits. To spiral outwards until the started to suffocate one another. That's why Simon gave up his power, let Nia die naturally and moved on having drilled a path for the younger generation to take over.

TLDR: It's not a show about "testosterone fuelled rage" it's a show about personal responsibility. You wouldn't get it

Are you saying style over substance shouldn't be analyzed? Because that's wrong. A lot of TTGL is just references to older super robo anime. If you don't pay attention you might find yourself blindly praising a slideshow of old memes you don't understand because they look "cool."

it's a show about personal responsibility. You wouldn't get it

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The claim that your brain stops developing at 25 is false. The scientific study in question literally didn't look at people older than 25. Neuroplasticity does decrease with age, but never goes away. There are certain thresholds for things like language acquisition, but those happen in childhood.

The very concept is ridiculous, as postgrad education would be non-existent, or severely condensed. It reeks of a cope from people who could do shit, and need to convince others to be the same.

No. It's fine to analyze anything to understand it better, but you can also pretty much overanalyze anything to seem like some deep poorly understood masterpiece. 90% of the show is giant robots fighting and how believing in yourself gives you power to beat impossible odds, I see no reason on why I or anyone else shouldn't just take it at face value and enjoy it for what it is. I feel like if I took the show super serious it would've diminished my experience, because I would also start nitpicking its flaws and not just connecting cool references or whatever. Sometimes you're just in the mood for giant robots fighting.

Very concerning take. Simple concepts are often *harder* to analyze because a simple concept done well leans into artistry, symbolism, and execution, so it can be very difficult to articulate why certain things are better than others. Like all those cool poses mean something. When Ryoma says "CHANGE GETTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.... ONE" the way he says that means something. The gainax pose from gunbuster with the crossed arms and spread legs means something. The overexaggerated head tilt in shaft anime means something.

TTGL is one of the greatest shows ever made. I watched it when it was airing when I was 19 and I appreciate it more and more with every rewatch. The show purposefully subverts expectations in all the best and most thought-provoking ways, so it comes as no surprise that people still talk about it almost 20 years later.
It's great on the surface level, and it's great when analyzed to excruciating detail.
If you're not interested in watching it, not even for the cultural appreciate aspect of it, then anime simply isn't for you. Go do something productive like skydiving or deep-sea archeology.

You do sound like a pretentions twat, but the funny thing is that TTGL has entire arcs dedicated to explaining why people like you are wrong. It also does so with gentle understanding, never being overly critical of you for coming to the conclusions that you have, while also showing you how you've come to the wrong conclusions.

You don't need to understand all the references to appreciate any anime, even something like TTGL. This isn't an episode of Family Guy where everything is reliant on member berries.

why do you act like it's some massive task to do so retard, it's 27 episodes not 2700 like one piece

I am vaguely aware of its central themes and elements about the indomitable human spirit and all that

That isn't even close to what the central themes of TTGL are.

it's mostly heavily braindead style-over-substance stuff

This isn't true.

this seems pretty boring and unexciting to me

You'll understand when you're older and you've experienced a few more tragediesnof your own.

Is there any point in watching this for the sake of its cultural relevance as an adult?

No, there is no point in watching it for that reason.

No, generally if you are dealing ina subject matter, you're just ginna get smarter and more skilled as you grow older and more experienced.
Most cognitive things negatively correlated with age (aside from overt cognitive delcline (which sets in during your 70s) are largely consequences of living in a world where you have to spend a large portion of your time not nourishing your skills and instead doing menial nonsense work.

It's not about references. Those poses are symbols. They are there to demonstrate something.

Those poses are symbols.

No they are references. They can be interpreted and explained without any external knowledge.

None of the references in TTGL matter to the plot, there're just cute callbacks. TTGL stands perfectly tall as a standalone show, without any prior knowledge of mecha required. If you find yourself interested in the genre afterward and watch some shows, you can go back to TTGL and say "ohhh, that's a cute reference!" when they pop up.

In Gurren Lagann they are because it's a shallow reddit meme anime lmao

He didn't start with Mazinger or Getter Robo

It's over for you, you already missed the start of the journey.

What is this fascination you have with calling everything from old 4cuck culture "reddit"? This show is older than you are.

Genuinely which kind of NPC cattle makes threads like this? You're 25 and on Anon Babble, your time doesn't worth a fucking shit, just watch it and if you don't like it, stop. Think about that when you're making cattle decisions in your life and maybe it'll improve.

Just watch the fucking show you fucking spastic.