Anime has been gay for decades. Let's be real. If you watched Adult Swim anime in the mid 2000s...

No it's just funny all the post AoT fans who don't get it.

West gay is black rock demanding assassins creed ad a gay character japa gay is writers including a variety of unique characters (or hentai)

It's just funny seeing the tourists not realizing this.

Most people who use "tourist" are newfags

I was around for the Haruhi era lol.

I am using their insult against them.

Hell I'm literally explaining to you anime on cable TV 2 decades ago had gay characters and themes.

In the US.

You think all of these Bible thumpers would have watched Gankotsuou in the 2000s? When they were melting down over brokeback mountain?

Most people who use newfag are summerfags

Mind you, kabuki originally had female performers but they had to banned because it eventually lead to their prostitution. Then they were replaced by male teens and kids, who also were turned into prostitution. So now only adult male performers are allowed.

desperation to portray anime as "ally" friendly

It's not.

But I'm telling you Bible thumpers you would not have been watching this 2 decades ago

no

huh I completely forgot about that, I think such a brief scene with a Kaworu clone was overshadowed by the MC knocking up the osananajimi

So adult male prostitution was considered ok?

Retard please, all those shit didn't matter one bit.
It was always about naruto and dbz ratings.

It might be gay but at least they aren’t faggots about it

sounds like something a tourist would say

There’s a difference between being gay and being an insufferable faggot (OP).

I used to have a clip of Hard Gay explaining his lifestyle to a bunch of school kids. Ends in them chanting "gay! gay! gay!". If I still had it, I'd make webms of it.

Of course. Full citizens are able to consent and conduct business.

Tourist discovers one facet of anime

OH! it is not talked about in Anon Babble

I must be a savant in uncharted territory for pícking it up!

lets do a prometheus and bring the light to these uncultured swines!!!

AWWWW Kawaii!! Sasug/a/ Tourist

Braless onee-san should be jiggling gently while laughing.

milly had a crush on lelouche

thing happens

stopped because it lead to a problem

thing gets replaced with other thing

stopped because it lead to the same problem

thing gets replaced again

a different but just as bad problem arises, but it doesn't stop/get replaced because it technically isn't as bad

This happens way too often

big difference between pandering to fujos and political propaganda.

This is one of the older bots. The new ones all digest the thread into an opening bait.

there actually isn't. try and prove it, you can't.

Anon Babble is healing from the tourist crisis
Keep up the good fight, brother

I just don't wanna see niggas kissin'. Leave me alone. You're weird.

trvth nvke
if code geass aired today, nu/a/ would dismiss it as “fujobait” and every thread would be shitposted by pol tourists

Gay stuff in anime is based on uniquely Japanese naivete. It's "pro-LGBT" in the same way a well-meaning 15 year old who believe in "being nice to everybody" is pro-LGBT.
Western media weaponizes LGBT with the knowledge of its subversive potential. It's very ideological and very "Frankfurt school." This is what people are afraid they'll start seeing in anime.

see, here the pol tourists appears right on cue

Don't forget that Code Geass also makes a colonial empire the antagonistic faction while the Japanese are portrayed as an oppressed population suffering under apartheid so severe that it enters genocide territory (the entire 11s thing would definitely hold up as evidence of genocidal intent at the ICC)

CG would cause an even greater shitstorm if it aired today than it did in the era of "haha noodle people I am Zero SUZAK RURUSHU SUZAK RURUSHU"

Why are you depicting this as a japan only thing, faggot? It was always pretty common in europe. People playing opposite gender roles in still pretty ordinary in UK.

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I empathize with the people who were outraged when their kabuki prostitutes were banned.

trvth nvke

Yep that says it all about you. Go back to twitter. Western homosexuality is completely different to japanese homosexuality.

There's a problem though
Japan has been very good at separating things. If you g
Like gay shit you have tons of media to consume, you have yuri, yaoi, etc, for every fetish or weird idea you have a manga/anime
And gay characters have always been a thing and it never felt preachy
What the west does is; invade popular things with lgbt propaganda
And japan is falling too
The lgbt flag is the flag of globalization and because of politics, feminism and woke propaganda creators now feel forced to make theyr main characters gay , different race, etc

They were probably rich. They can pay their damned licensed prostitutes and related taxes to do a real job instead of abusing actresses.

No you're just a retarded neonazi whose brain has been melted by the actual propaganda

Glad to know that you're unable to respond to that

Respond to what? You're just regurgitating nonsense from your echo chamber on Anon Babble. You're a tourist who doesn't even watch anime.

Respond to the points made in his post

You're a tourist who doesn't even watch anime.

That's you. You read some fag propaganda saying that japan is extremely homosexual because of all the homosexuality in anime. But because you don't watch anime, you're unaware of all the other degenerate things in it like pedophilia. All homosexuality and other sexual deviance are in anime only for the service to those reading it. Unlike in western produces where it is there as propaganda. That's the difference, that's what you don't understand. Because you do not watch anime.

I don't mind gay stuff. What i absolutely loathe is the way westerners and western anime fanbases twisted it into some sort of deranged ideological worship. Political tourists don't belong to this medium either.

You don't seem to understand, anime and manga have always been subversive. It's counter-culture to the conservative mainstream culture of Japan. Sexuality in otaku media exists for the same political reasons as the sexuality in pink films. And they've always been linked to Western counterculture. There would be no famous Akira bike slide without Rebel Without a Cause.

You're a fucking tourist who doesn't watch anime

There are some important names missing here. You're full of shit.

Concession accepted

It's counter-culture

No it isn't, it's just occasionally some university graduates doing something edgy. Stop applying western political language onto japan. Do you think japan has a large scale culture of supporting israel and christian zionism? You haven't responded to the fact that anime is full of other degeneracy which completely refutes your original arugment.

Blind men touching an elephant, selling meatloaf. If only you would watch anime.

that's got very little to do with whether anime and japan are homosexual

Do you think japan has a large scale culture of supporting israel

Extremist members of the Japanese Red Army joined Palestinian liberation fighters and conducted an attack on an Israeli airport in 1972 lol
The Israel-Palestine conflict was one of the flash points of counter-culture resistance to the mainstream and that tension even influences 1979's Gundam.

You haven't responded to the fact that anime is full of other degeneracy which completely refutes your original arugment.

If it's degeneracy then it can't be your based fashy right wing culture, right? Thanks for playing, kill yourself back to Anon Babble since you don't watch anime.

Gullible anon still believing the made-up interviews from random blogger.

What culture were they resisting by supporting palestine?

If it's degeneracy then it can't be your based fashy right wing culture, right?

What are you talking about you mentally ill freak?

The mainstream international order of the postwar period which Japan had been integrated into through the Reverse Course policy during the occupation that led to the return of fascist war criminals to form the Japanese political establishment that still exists to this day (thus why war crimes denial has been so persistent) as well as the return of the zaibatsu which became a reflection of the neoliberal economic order (again explaining why Japan's economic and financial crises mirror Western crises)

It's like you don't know anything about anime or Japan lol
Stick to Anon Babble since you can just regurgitate the same bullshit over and over without regard for accuracy or intelligence

WATASHITACHI OUR HARMONY

Seriously what you talking about? What does this have to do with you claiming that anime and japan are homosexual?

I'm talking about basic Japanese postwar history and politics which have been the direct influence for anime and manga

Okay and do you have evidence of widespread japanese support for israel and jews? And how does this prove that anime and japan are homosexual, as you initially claimed?

I don't really care where you move the goalposts to since you don't actually watch anime lol

Concession accepted yet. Don't call anime homosexual again when your argument is so easily refuted.

You tourists prove it is gay because that's precisely why you don't watch it. All you do is fap to pictures of fictional children because you're an actual pedophile like every other right wing piece of shit. You're an infiltrator trying to change the culture because you're disgusted by what anime actually is which is why you can never situate an argument by relying on anime and manga itself or the words of its creators.

By the logic of your own argument, japan and anime are very pedophilic. Why do you hate pedophile mangaka so much?

Why do you love pedophiles so much?

Because pedophilia is good, and it's very good that japan likes it so much.

i did not watch any of those things
also, the main book on "bushido" was written IN ENGLISH in like 1900 by a guy that went to an american university and married an american quaker woman

People who have to maintain a mental habit of denying the world's story are often more interesting to talk to, even if they're crazy or disgusting. And talking is the only entertainment on the internet besides porn.

it's very good that japan likes it so much

Spoken like a true tourist who has no idea why the stereotypical otaku character is portrayed as a pedophile lol
But that's about what everyone expects from an illiterate Anon Babbletard who only comes to Anon Babble to fap and shitpost because he doesn't actually watch anime

You're an infiltrator trying to change the culture because you're disgusted by what anime actually is

That is exactly you. You've watched ten anime, that probably being studio ghibli and some edgy shows from the 90's, and gotten the completely false impression that most anime are rebellious and anti-establishment. You won't believe it but the vast majority of anime never make any comments on politics or history.

Spoken like a true tourist who has no idea why the stereotypical otaku character is portrayed as a pedophile lol

No? That's merely going off your own logic of claiming that japan is homosexual. Did you forget that that's why you made this thread?

There's no culture left. But there's nobody who buys that there is either. He's fooling himself.

...

It was all gay lol.

You can just tell that op is a twitter tourist.

You have to cast me in the strawman position of OP because you're a shitposting moron who doesn't actually watch anime

You won't believe it but the vast majority of anime never make any comments on politics or history

No pretty much everyone recognizes this because of how hollowed out by corporatism the industry has become as "otaku" has been embraced by the mainstream. The government has literally turned anime and manga into social currency through programs like Cool Japan. Not to mention that the majority of the master artists will themselves admit how much they are influenced by the profit motive, audience acceptance, and obligation to investors. Gainax is a great example since it's simultaneously THE prestige otaku studio and a shell of IP sniping that was obliterated by the darkness of economics.

One of the really telling moments is the staff interview that went with the TTGL anniversary showings. They all agreed that it was impossible to make something like that again. Even still there are plenty of true "otaku" works within recent times. For me it all started with trying to unravel UN-GO, and Concrete Revolutio basically does the same thing in a less elegant way. And then, everywhere you look, it's the same story. As soon as you learn the real history of Japan it becomes so obvious.

Even the new Godzilla dipped its toes into that stream because it is central to postwar culture rather than just otaku media. Murakami uses the same points of contact and that's the secret reason he's irresistible mass market gold.

Anime is definitely less gay now than 10 years ago

Then they were replaced by male teens and kids, who also were turned into prostitution

That's so fucking hot

word in capital letters for emphasis

oh how predictable

And once again your post has nothing to do with your claim of anime being homosexual. You seem to read far more into ways to argue that anime belongs to your personal political ideology than watch it, and it's clear you don't watch it because if you did you'd know it continues to be filled with homosexuality and pedophilia which should according to your post be censored.

I gave you so many things to talk about and that's what you've got? Tourists who don't watch anime are so boring because they can't discuss even a single show.

You gave many things to talk about that had nothing to do with your initial claim of anime being homosexual and instead perverted history to depict japan having "counter culture".

Tourists who don't watch anime

You hate anime as you are offended by pedophilia

perverted history to depict japan having "counter culture"

See now that's an entertaining lie at least. Can we confirm that you are now arguing that Japan didn't produce a counterculture that was directly linked ideologically and aesthetically with postwar countercultures in places like the US and UK?

Your use of "counter culture" is extremely dishonest because you're suggesting it was equivalent to what was going on in america. Now back to the topic, why do you say that anime is homosexual?

you're suggesting it was equivalent to what was going on in america

In what ways was it not equivalent? Remember, we're talking about the Japanese left wing whose radicals did things like hijack airplanes to take to North Korea or linking up with the resistance to America's colony of Israel. The entire ANPO protest was directly about American imperialism which is one of the common links of counterculture across the world. Like, you know it's just a basic fact that they had Vietnam war protests too, right?
The leftist counterculture in Japan was specifically attuned to American counterculture both because of America's exports like films depicting subcultures such as biker gangs as well as the overlap in ideology as subjects of American hegemony. Because Japan had been restructured into a "liberal democracy" ruled by capitalist aristocrats, they even faced equivalent material conditions as those in the countercultures of Western countries.

Japan gay quiet

ok now google "Hard Gay"

You could just watch the "straight" anime instead of the "gay" anime
Seems like you're just trying to plant a flag to claim something as your own

Why do moids go to such lengths to justify wanting to watch cute anime boys? Just watch shoujo nobody cares the cute fox boy isn’t real.

In the fact that japan has a completely distinct culture to america. In particular, half of the most controversial aspects of the counter culture barely offended anyone in UK. So it's very dishonest to present japanese support for communism as equivalent to what that was in america. Again, why are you pretending like japan ever had a culture of caring about israel? They barely have a jewish population now, some japs supporting palestine is hardly "subversive".

kek

In particular, half of the most controversial aspects of the counter culture barely offended anyone in UK

You're going to have to elaborate and give some concrete examples, this is just gibberish.

So it's very dishonest to present japanese support for communism as equivalent to what that was in america

Again, you need to give concrete examples of differences. Unless you mean that the Japanese were more extreme rather than equivalent, which is fair considering even the Weathermen were "pacifist" bombers.

Completely distinct culture btw

In 1960's UK
No one cared if you liked certain music groups
No one cared if you were a christian zealot, pseudo-buddhist or militant atheist
Most of the public opposed the Vietnamese war
Trade unions were led by open communists of communist parties
People only disliked drug users because it was criminal, not because they thought it was corrupting the morals of their christian society

Yet despite all that, it obviously influenced and was influenced by the american counter culture where all of that was highly controversial. But you wouldn't present figures involved in this british scene as being equally rebellious as their american counterparts, as that would be very dishonest, wouldn't it?

Again, you need to give concrete examples of differences.

In america they had macarthysim which accused anyone of being communist of being a traitor to america. There wasn't culture of that in japan, and communism was considered another extreme ideology.

Made in 1990 btw, seethe retard puritan tradfags

Go back to twitter, op

In america they had macarthysim which accused anyone of being communist of being a traitor to america. There wasn't culture of that in japan

Blacklisting leftists after college is in fact what led directly to the high concentration of left wing ideology in children's cartoons. This is of course after the US occupation and later the CIA collaborated with the resurgent fascist government to crush socialist parties across Japan, in part using mass firings. We might then also consider all the police actions against left wing movements in Japan which led to the sort of "routine" of skirmishes between Zenkyoto sects and riot police. Left wing terrorists during this time were so demonized that they'd immediately jump to the top of the most wanted lists no matter what actual criminal monstrosities were being ignored. Posters of the wanted would remain in police boxes for decades. There was a very strong anti-communist, establishment protective culture in Japan during the Cold War because America willed it so and the collaborationist elites needed to defend the status quo.

But you wouldn't present figures involved in this british scene as being equally rebellious as their american counterparts, as that would be very dishonest, wouldn't it?

This is the dumbest thing one of you illiterates has come up with so far. You're retreating into inventing an arcane calculus of counterculture bona fides because there's no factual way to argue that Japan didn't have a large, robust counterculture that was directly influenced by America, the UK, etc. You're forced to enter into these ever more ridiculous lies because you're a tourist from an echo chamber for morons who don't watch anime and who don't read about postwar history.

The british government censored communist newspapers and threatened to execute their publishers and purged the government of communists. Nevertheless the general public still wasn't all that bothered if someone was a communist, they just thought it was a bit weird. So your point doesn't really work, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that the general public in japan considered communism an evil threat and anyone sympathetic as traitors.

This is the dumbest thing one of you illiterates has come up with so far.

It's a response to the fact that that you're unable to define what counter culture is. And if it just means opposing american imperialism, then most british people at the time belonged to this counter culture. You're a tourist that doesn't watch anime and wants to force it into conforming to your own political ideology. After your attempt with homosexuality utterly failed and revealed that you don't watch anime, you've resorted to claiming that japs disliking american led wars means it agrees with you.

you're unable to define what counter culture is

Wait, do you not even know that common term's definition?
Holy illiteracy. No wonder you have to bullshit so much.

Why don't you define it yourself you pathetic little faggot. You started this argument, you started all these claims.

No lol
It's more fun to just laugh at you for being a seething illiterate idiot who needs to go back to his echo chamber on Anon Babble

Lesbian porn in the 90's is le edge

lmao youre prolly born in 10's if you think like this

If you use words but then refuse to explain what you mean by that, that's just retarded. This thread of yours has been a colossal failure.

If you use words but then refuse to explain what you mean by that, that's just retarded

I'm going to need you to explain what each of those words means, or you're retarded.
You're butthurt that I'm using a common term in its normal way that you happen to have no clue about because you're an illiterate, uneducated piece of shit with nothing intelligent to say. Your brain has been drilled out by that echo chamber and replaced with hot air. You don't watch anime. You don't know anything about history or politics. You're a wholly worthless worm.

Nope but all that can apply to you considering how obsessed you are with politics to the point that you go on the anime board and then whine about how no one is as historically educated as you consider yourself to be. Counter culture means countering culture, like how americans felt that british music was opposing their christian morals. But it's all on you to define it, since you say it. That's how arguments work. But considering how terribly this argument has gone for you it's not like you'll bother being honest.

Counter culture means countering culture

Fun things are fun lol
I guess that's the other reason you illiterate slime are drawn to moe, nothing too hard to think about

See, that's the thing. You're obsessed with the retarded politics of your echo chamber, while I'm obsessed with anime. My politics come from anime. That's why I can refer to things like how UN-GO uses its fictional setting to create a mirror of the postwar moment as signified by Shinjuuro choosing to live in bombed out rubble among prostitutes and black marketeers. I mean, even more obvious than that is his catchphrase which is lifted directly from Ango's Darakuron. The continuity between the Japanese government during and after the war in the series' setting lets us know we're dealing with the establishment created by the Reverse Course. And what does the show say about those war criminals?

No, you're obsessed with politics. What you describe never occurs to ordinary people unless they specifically go out of their way to think about politics. You don't enjoy anime except when you can make it about your politics. So thanks for further confirming that, as well as conceding the argument you started, and confirming that every single insult you make accusing others of belonging to "echo chambers" 100% applies to yourself.

You have to make up all that bullshit because you can't talk about a single anime that supports your point of view and you'll never be able to coherently argue that UN-GO isn't about exactly what I say it is. You don't watch anime. You don't read about history and politics. You are an NPC programmed in an echo chamber flailing helplessly because you can't even try to make an argument without revealing that you don't even understand basic things like what counterculture is.

Why do you expect people who aren't obsessed with politics to be able to think of anime that supports their politics? Especially when most anime isn't political at all.

NPC programmed in an echo chamber

This is a Anon Babble meme btw some people here used to get angry at it. Just so you know for next time.

Ghost in the shells manga is only edgy for puritan standards like the tourists who think Anon Babble is their little traditional western safe space, jap society hasn't given a fuck about yaoi/Yuri for a long time

No one is like that here you insufferable tourist

So do you think there are no political elements to classics like Akira and Ghost in the Shell? You can't be obsessed with anime and ignore politics because so many of the creators are deeply entrenched leftists who have created compelling works with political messages. Miyazaki is always the big name and you can go down the line on Nausicaa, Laputa, Mononoke, Porco Rosso, Wind Rises, How do you live? For instance, the opening of Laputa is directly influenced by the struggles of coal miners during Thatcher's reign, and of course the main plot is the ur-myth of cryptofascist legacies in the postwar period.

In order to be obsessed with anime, you must be obsessed with the leftist politics that influences it. It's impossible to ignore unless you don't actually watch anime. That's why you have to tie yourself in knots with all these empty words. And you still can't talk about a single anime.

Perhaps, but who cares? Do you not watch any anime other than the most famous classics and ghibli, that just so happen to have countless reddit youtube videos analysing them? Those seem to be all you're listing here and that's quite funny. You don't watch anime.

you must be obsessed with the leftist politics that influences it.

No you just watch anime. Or perhaps also study the pedophilia of japanese mangaka.

Lol you haven't even watched Akira
You're a tourist who doesn't watch anime and that's why you're never actually going to discuss a single series or film. You can't do it.

I don't care about whether or not a media has gays, or progressive stuff here and there. I just don't want the meta surrounding it to be about eliminating stuff that's considered "offensive" or "wrong" by the current zeitgeist's standards.

Hard gay is a straight guy that mocks western faggots for their faggoty way of dress.
Also the transexual animal is a disgusting creature.

Anon Babble has been gay for decades. Let's be real.

If you started lurking here the mid 2000s. You were exposed to this type of stuff and Moot being bi. Calling everyone a '-fag', 'wanting to be the little girl', ERP and general debauchery all started here around that time period.

It was all gay lol.

Basically. If you were afraid of gay media in that time period, there was no way you'd be a Anon Babble user. That's how I know tons of you are newfag tourists.

Let's be honest, almost no one's gonna pay to have sex with a grown up man.

Only if you're ugly. Lots of ugly women would pay to have sex with a 27 year old Chris Hemsworth

There is gay(us all being little girls)
Then there is being a gaslighting transexual animal gay.
Also Ranma will always be straight.

Then there is being a closeted pedophile using ritualized reactionary performance to abate the cognitive dissonance of being the exact sort of trash that fascists burn anyway

closeted

Wow, a handful of some shit no one actually watched.

I mean that as closeted and a pedophile, your vitriolic nature comes from your total hypocrisy

Spotted the gaslighting tranny.
You election tourist really should go away.

You cling to lolicon because you're a poser whose only on ramp into this subculture is pretending your actual pedophilia falls within the 2D bounds so that you can claim to belong. Your use of a term like "tranny" indicates that you're a complete charlatan whose come in with the culture war winds. You don't actually watch anime, you just have lolicon pics for fun and LARPing. Your vitriolic reactionary performance, ranting about trans people, is an offensive cover to deflect from the fact that you're an actual predator. You are everything you warn the world about as evil by naming scapegoats.

When you still were watching anime on TV in the mid 00s you deserve it and don't belong here, it was people like you that killed the internet.

dressing as opposite gender for an art performance makes you homo

Is this average American education? Or general Westdroid education?

I'm not even the same dude you're replying to, autismo.

reactionary

Here comes the poser pretending to be an "oldfag"