[sad news]

Ryu Nakayama–former director of Chainsaw Man, has been relegated to direct Roblox games.

He was supposed to be the next big anime director, what went so wrong?

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How much money did he lose for Mappa? I remember before release it was some unprecedented production deal where Mappa took all the risk and reward instead of putting together a whole production committee. Something like that. Didn't work out for them I guess.

How many fucking threads does this need

Too pretentious

He was supposed to be the next big anime director, what went so wrong?

Michael Cimino syndrome

He was supposed to be the next big anime director,

You made that up

Roblox is bigger than the entire anime industry

Kinda feel bad for the guy, he didn't deserve to be bullied by csm's schizo fanbase.

You wish, dumb zoomer

I mean MAPPA put him in sole charge of their biggest project ever while he was still untested.

not really. anime industry is like 30 billion globally. roblox is 4 billion.

too kino for casuals

it was going to happen to anyone that didn't meet up their wild expectations.
pretetious faggots tend to be childish like that

The only directors who've ever claimed that anime needed saving have been frauds and bitter has-beens who are upset after a string of flops.

Feel the same about Toyotaro and Isayama even though ive never read DB or SnK

In 2010s anime did need saving, from the wave of moetrash. But then it was saved in a tragic incident and now everything is fine

the hate for isayama comes ffom a handful of fags that expected a different ending, nothing too bad
toyotaro is deserved for tracing since his early years that japs have beel calling out for a while

nakayama literally destroyed csm

The only good thing I can say is that Nakayama's not at fault for Part 2 sucking ass.

sad? these are the best news of 2025 so far

ah yes the chainsaw man curse. Reminder that anyone that touched the manga will be in ruins.

CSM doomers are the biggest schizos on Anon Babble

their wild expectations.

Why such large expectations to begin with? Not like the manga is some praised masterpiece considered higher quality and its other Shonen contemporaries like OP.

But it is tho, by quite a lot of reputable people. It's the Shonen for the 100+ IQ crowd

biggest schizos on Anon Babble

but enough about diaper

pretentious

are you describing the director that thought csm was some auteur kinoshit and not an otaku manga. just advertise the manga and move on.

Nah, man. No where has CSM higher rated than OP. Or quite a few other Shonen for that matter.

THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR MAKING REZE'S HAIR BLUE YOU MOTHER FUCKER. Honestly though that's like my only complaint.
Some other anon knows more shit than me but this is what I got.
Mappa themselves bought the anime adaptation rights for chainsaw man. Usually some big committee of different companies buys up the rights and commission an animation studio to do it but Mappa decided to cut out the middle man. Mappa themselves had to fund the chainsaw man anime all by themselves. This leads Mappa also being in charge of distributing, merchandising, marketing, etc etc(which also cost money). Mappa was able to get some type of sponsorship/deal with Sony which is how they got the opening&ED musicians I believe(and I think Sony is distributing the reze movie internationally). Anyways show came out and didn't make JJK money. It at least broke even cause well the reze movie is still in production and has a release date but the blurays/dvds didn't make money(to be fair BDs aren't as big as they were 10 years ago). Now the BDs are what Mappa/Mappa's CEO were WILLING to admit to flopping. To add Mappa themselves had to fund the production of the show mostly by themselves which probably took a decent amount of whatever profit they made. The chainsaw man season 1 director's style was taxing in the animators from the production line(said production line was doing both JJK and chainsaw man) which might have contributed to the JJK2 production melt down.
Wasn't that cock sucker defending this show but gradually grew disappointed by it? Whatever happened to that weirdo.

Anything other than a westerncock sucker would have been fine.
Even if it was bad it would just be laughed at and the fans left mostly alone.

because faggots that are too dumb for actual cinema got fooled into thinking it was some sort of high art

Fujimoto did that himself with the second part of the manga to be honest.
The anime can still be salvaged, but that can't.

diaper still lurks csm threads and he still dickrides fujimoto even after everything that happened

no, the csmfags

Chainsaw Man is for kids.

meanwhile

Kerorira dropped BTR for Love Live

Saito dropped BTR for Frieren

Sad fate the protagonists of the big 2022 fall anime war
nvm sakugacucks have been quiet these passing weeks

I really miss how much westernshitters loved to praise him. What happened to all his fans kek

NTA, but I think what the anon means is that Chainsaw Man gets special acclaim for being more sophisticated than shonen and supposedly tackling deeper, more complicated topics than your average shonen manga.
Which all goes out the fucking window if you sit down to read it, especially Part 2, but that's beside the point kek

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Fujimoto did that himself

the adaptation was despised by nips and it took 3 fucking years to have new content again. That would kill 99% of franchises

What's wrong with part 2 again?

Reze movie fucked unless it has some actual good marketing

westerncock sucker

but that is csm as a whole and fujimoto

shit art
shit characters
shit writing
massive plot conveniences
marvel tier humour
etc.

anons itt learning that "western" is so broad of a term to almost be useless

For me, I hate how Denji's development just keeps circling around and ends up going nowhere. He has multiple fucking talks to himself about how his mindless obedience and perpetual horniness was seriously fucking up his life, but in the end he just reverts to his usual gag.
A lot of people praised Denji for being a subversion of the pervert archetype by treating it as an actual character flaw that he needs to overcome rather than just a gag. But at the way things are going, I'm pretty damn sure that it is just a gag.

It'd be a gag if he wasn't punished for it regularly.

Bad news for Roblox games.

He did. The anime was low energy sterile bullshit compared to even its own endings.

what punishment? he cried about nayuta for 5 minutes and then went to bark for yoru's pussy

Only time I really saw that was chapter 152(church arc as a whole I guess). Don't remember the rest but man that fucking chapter was dog shit. Also why didn't Denji drink the sword hybrid's blood in chapter 153 to heal himself. He was literally doing that shit in chapter 152(and the first eternity arc and the international assassins arc).

what punishment

Nayuta died.

he lost mappa so much money that he was forced into slavery

Also why didn't Denji drink the sword hybrid's blood in chapter 153 to heal himself.

He was giving into the pain as a form of masochism. It felt good to him.

do i need to repeat myself?

beer breath

Eww

directing a roblox game? how do you do that?

Did Nayuta die because of Denji?

NTA, but is it really a punishment if he doesn't change from it? Denji had a whole rant in Aging's forest about how he fucked everything up because of his horniness, and then the minute they're out, he's shoving his arm in his face because Yoru told him to. In the end, he hasn't learned shit from his mistakes.

No, she died because kiga wanted her dead

There's a difference between giving into the pain and giving into the pain while also healing yourself like he was doing 10 seconds ago.
Pretty sure he only directed a trailer for it.

but is it really a punishment if he doesn't change from it?

He did. He got worse. He became more hedonistic than ever because of having two different families killed because of him that's why he's jumping at the bit to get felt up by DOMru while in every other sexual interaction in Part 2 prior he has had massive reservations (besides Yoru raping him in the alley).

If he healed himself he wouldn't feel pain anymore because he already disposed of his enemies. He got caught up in the moment which is what allowed him to get taken down by the mob.

If he healed himself he wouldn't feel pain anymore because he already disposed of his enemies. He got caught up in the moment which is what allowed him to get taken down by the mob.

So he was just feeling himself. Chapter 153 feels contrived in retrospect now. It's been a while but doesn't Denji only heal when he pulls his rip cord? So the act of drinking the blood wouldn't heal him at first? And Denji was OWWWWWW in chapter 153 so he would be more inclined to heal himself since the whole city still has fakesaw zombies everywhere, right?

So he was just feeling himself.

Exactly, yeah.

It's been a while but doesn't Denji only heal when he pulls his rip cord?

True

Chapter 153 feels contrived in retrospect now

A common point is that Nayuta could've controlled anyone of them to feed Denji blood and pull his ripcord.

thats because the fan animations on twitter (not to be confused with xitter) during the manga hype blew the fuck out of everyone's mind, naturally the audience had high expectation of the adaptation

A common point is that Nayuta could've controlled any one of them to feed Denji blood and pull his ripcord.

Part 2 in general feels like it has more contrivances compared to part 1. Also it's a shame on how Fujimoto got to 154&155 since in isolation those were good chapters in my opinion. I just wish there was a bit more time dedicated to Denji's and Nayuta's dynamic and more focus on Barem(since at the moment sword guy basically has gone nowhere and it probably would have been better if Barem convinced Denji that he was an actual "chainsaw man fan" before burning his life down and revealing he hates Denji for taking Makima/Makima's world vision from him.
Thoughts on the prison, aging/old age, and current arcs?

Part 2 in general feels like it has more contrivances compared to part 1.

Definitely

those were good chapters in my opinion

Nayuta's flashback is the best moment of Part 2. I thought it was writing on par with some of the best of Part 1 desu.

Thoughts on the prison, aging/old age, and current arcs?

Moments of good payoffs in the writing have been very sparse. I like Denji's "epiphany" in the Aging realm, but besides that I haven't found much value from the writing. I still read and enjoy for the wacky moments and character interactions since Fuji is just good at those as a matter of stream of consciousness.

So I guess I would say:
Current > Aging > Prison

He opened his animation unit and was hired by an anime studio to be their chief creative producer.

chose the wrong series, Crap Saar Man

died as anime director

many such cases

crazy how one miscast tanked the entire show

make 3d trash

get fired

good

The miscasted director? Yeah

Is it really that weird when it's the fucking director?

I just haven't really been liking any of the new exclusives part 2 characters. Don't hate em but I don't care for them that much either outside of Barem as a villain and some bits of Nayuta.
Also is it weird to say the current arc doesn't feel like a part 2 arc at the moment?

Also is it weird to say the current arc doesn't feel like a part 2 arc at the moment?

It's currently separate from Denji and Asa, so sure.

liking any of the new exclusives part 2 characters

Most of them aren't fleshed out enough, despite having really good stuff to work with and there having been way more than enough time to do so, like Haruka. I like Barem and Nayuta too.

All he had to do way say, "Hope you like Chainsaw Man" and shut up. When has anyone EVER in the history of social media maintained his public image by making a negative or confrontational comment? Once you're responsible for a public product, you advertise it and then shut up. Why can't people figure this out?

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The Akiba maids send their regards. Get fucked.

It's currently separate from Denji and Asa, so sure.

So since fake saw man and famine devil seem like they are going working together you think we'll get to see who fake saw man really is/he'll transform back into their human form?

like Haruka

Yeah he just feels like a gag character. I wonder if he went back to jail since that last panel of him is Yoshida showing a picture of him locked up and handcuffed.
Yoshida and Katana man don't feel like they changed much. Glad to see more of them but they haven't changed much.
Did he say some shit on social media? I thought he got hate for saying he didn't like overly expressive anime faces and pink hair in some interviews(probably said some more stuff in that interview but that shit is like 3 years old at this point).

I'm so glad Crappa's getting their comeuppance in some way. The whole company deserved to go under after that retarded Mahoraga fight.

Nakayama's adaptation feels like reading CSM part 2
This is not a compliment

THE CHAINSAWS AREN'T MOVING, AND EVEN IF THEY ARE THEY HAVE TO BE 3D. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

who cares CSM was mediocre in part 1 and straight up garbage in part 2. the general is full of complete retards just as bad as the dbs spics

I remember some bullshit I made up because memes

JJK S2 prod was crippled all thanks to NKYM and it still ended up being the superior product somehow

It would be easier to list the things that actually work on that manga...

Industry plant

Because JJK S2's director is actually, genuinely talented.

how could this happen. no way

wut

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kills CSM

kills Zom 100

kills Spy Classroom

what franchise will T*m*ri kill next?

holy shit a nigger

Trvke

why the hate. season 1 was kino. (im seriously asking i don't really keep up)

talk a big game

do a shit job

get mocked

Sounds fair to me. Either don't say anything and focus on working or back up your words with a quality product, I have no sympathy for people can't do either of those

I was just think about the alien girl death
Geez, comparing any scene from csm with that one scene and they could have excuted nakamaya on the spot

It just has niche appeal, while everyone expected it to be the next big thing.

In an interview he said he wanted to make something less than the usual anime

Fatass Otakus in Japan go offended and started a hate campaign against him

Mofo had to close the comments of his Twitter account because of constant hate

Blu-ray sells like ass which further deepen the hate

Mappa simply gets rid of him

I have said it before and I'll say it again Aki was the true heart and soul of the manga.
Other characters had their moments, but he was the emotional glue that held everything together

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It's bigger than Chainflop man and Crappa that's for sure

More lucrative than anime

If all that stuff about Mappa is true why take such a big investment on Chainsaw man? Like was part 1 of Chainsaw man that amazing?

The further away we get from season 1 airing, the more people memory hole that it was one of the most anticipated anime of all time.

Never watched CS season 1 but I knew that it was pretty hyped up prior to airing. Was it really THAT bad? All I heard was some people complaining about the CGI, but I didn't realize it had flopped so hard that it permanently damaged MAPPA's reputation.

Was it really THAT bad?

Too manga fans? Yes, it was actually that bad.

It's not enough we have two CSM generals, we also need ancillary threads about 3D related to CSM.
Horrible series

diaper still lurks csm threads and he still dickrides fujimoto even after everything that happened

And he's right.

Part 2 is kino

Fujimoto is a good writer and the face of modern shonen mangaka

The CSM movie is receiving the highest quality treatment in the industry

Mappa will adapt the Chainsaw Man manga for years to come

Anon Babble will seethe forever about CSM and Fujimoto.

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he fucked up though, he forgot he was supposed to direct an anime not a pretentious Hollywood film
The pacing is atrocious, the animation was bad or just decent for the most part (with a few great scenes, I'll admit), he didn't even use the soundtrack properly, even the voice acting was bad and there were some big names there, he wasted such a great chance

Like was part 1 of Chainsaw man that amazing?

It was extremely popular for how many volumes it + not having an anime.
A lot of authors could wished their manga was as popular as chainsawman was after 5 volumes at their peak.
Pretty sure pre-anime chainsawman sold more than Undead unlock and yozakura family even after their anime came out.

permanently damaged MAPPA's reputation.

It was later with JJK S2 production disaster that was caused by CSM anime, which led them to lose KGB license which is right up their valley as their next big hit after JJK, among other things.

zased

NTA but not all punishments have to be about "character must learned from their mistakes" especially when it wasn't their fault in the first place.

Its a fine adaption quality wise but the style choice was odd. Over ambitious? Not sure the right way to put it
It kinda didn't mix with some of the goofier shit that goes on

Part 2 is overhated, i think is good despite the obvious flaws.

It was selling gangbusters in Japan and the west alike and had a very large and well-established fandom long before the anime has aired. The hype before S1 was so big and ads for it could be found even on the Times Square
Had Mappa not fucked up, they'd have had a money printer that would last them years

I don't know man, both sides are genuinely schizophrenic like one faggot is called diaperfag meanwhile the other is called microdick due posting his tiny dick.

He 100% deserved it for being a nepobaby pretentious westaboo faggot who openly proclaims his hate for anime. Motherfucker just wanted to leech off of CSM popularity to jumpstart his career and didn't bother to understand source material. And since he hates anime he really tried to direct CSM as if it were a movie, but he is a midwit and has no taste so his vision turned out to be the most bland, low energy, boring and plain basic bitch "movie". Retard got deathmogged by his own endings in his own show. youtube.com/watch?v=HEwAiwttN10
Oh and due to MAPPA marketing anime as if it was the biggest thing of the decade, CSM is now assosiated with his nigger vision and feel and any discussion is forever poisoned.
Honestly Nakayama didn't suffer enough.

I'm definitely not denying the hype since the Reze movie is looking pretty amazing too
. Was just confused how things got so bad for season 1 of the anime?

Retard got deathmogged

this phraseology made me kek

doomed to direct for fucking roblox games now

kekyyyyyyyyPOW!!!

This is just a shitpost, right?

Fortunately not

Denji didn't become more hedonistic at all, you fucking idiots. Denji is using anything he can get hold to keep his will to live and moving forward, also he is obeying Asa and Yoru because they are only people left on his life that still like him. Even he is aware they are dangerous women, but he has nothing to lose.

has nothing to lose

using anything he can get hold to keep his will to live

doing that through raw pleasure seeking from the nearest foid despite her being incredibly homicidal/genocidal

You just explained how he got more hedonistic, anon...

Denji is basically starved for love and affection and his "hedonism" is just something to cover up for the lack of love and affection.

He got more hedonistic to cope with his loved ones being slaughtered and inability to maintain a relationship, yes. I'm glad we both agree on what we all agreed on to begin with before you called us fucking idiots. Nice chat.

Did you sleep when they explained cause and effect in school?

Wrong, it's not simply hedonism even the manga does not portray it as such.

Its a good thing chainsaw man is also trash. Nothing of value was lost

Obviously it's not *just* hedonism and you already agree with the reality that he got more hedonistic and even stated the nuanced reasons as to why his behavior worsened. I know it's Anon Babble (formerly 4channel), but not everything has to be an argument, kek.

Toyoshitto deserves every bit of hate.

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Toyotaro

Why did Toriyama even accept that fag anyway?

This game is something he's doing with a new studio called Mayflower, his main work is as Andraft's CEO (his own animation unit)

has funds for 2 companies

shitty nepobaby

He never accepted him, Jump just paid him to work with Toyotaro.

cuckofucko deserves more for drawing the characters with ugly exaggerated muscles to compensate his horrible anatomy

Toyofuckosuckohackofaggoqueero hate thread?

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Season 1 literally got DMC2'd, where the director fucked up badly due changing everything people liked about the source material for the worse.

I thought he got hate for saying he didn't like overly expressive anime faces and pink hair in some interviews

I recalled the pink hair comment too, mostly because that was one of the main ways nips dissed him with by comparing CSM to BTR.

Why oh why couldn't they just get senjougahara to voice makima

BASED and truthpilled

I loved part 1 (manga) but this image makes me so happy that people realized the anime was ass

He made a really good anime that retards really hated.

It's fine to make things some people hate.
His problem came from making things few like enough to pay for.

No studio cared about Kaguramidshit for a reason

No, he made a shit anime of a manga retards loved.

wrong

kills Zom 100

The cuck crying chapter killed it harder than anything
And the terrible production issues with the anime

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Isyama deserves it

His biggest problem is that he made an anime that the overall audience was somewhat indifferent towards when the reception of the source material suggested that it was going to be a huge hit, and also made comments which look poor in retrospective considering how the anime was received.

The movie is fucked. It’s going to do terrible numbers in foreign markets and S1 might have already killed the hype in JP. They should have never put that pretentious retard in charge because they’ve locked themselves into a death spiral. At this point the best they can hope for is that the movie is critically acclaimed despite being a flop and that they can finally somehow make a profit on this terrible venture with the release of S2 in 3 more years.

sad news the guy you hate will become a billionaire

Damn.

God that looks like shit

JJK S2 got production issues for this too, a shame, it was the best part of the manga. Even if they go all out on S3 it doesn't really matter anymore since the source material is putrid shit from that point on.

CSM is now assosiated with his nigger vision and feel and any discussion is forever poisoned.

This is the real tragedy of the anime.

He made poopoo

I am sad now.

that they can finally somehow make a profit on this terrible venture with the release of S2 in 3 more years.

Pretty sure they make chainsaw man season 2 cheaply/cheaper if the movie flops hard or would cut their loses with chainsaw man entirely

Everyone and their fucking mother will tune in to see Gojo vs Sukuna animated.

I don't want Reze's movie to flop
Chainsaw man season 1 and JJK2 season 2 got DMC 2ed(chainsaw man only had a small production breakdown near the end from what I heard but Nagayama's fuck up spread throughout the production line leading to the breakdown and frustration of the JJK2 animators).

Since you cock suckers know everything about studios and who's is producing legitimate quality. What studios would you say right now are the best? No jokes.

Doesn't the game industry pay better than the anime indistry?

What went wrong? They let him direct something he had no idea about. He'd have been great on some gritty hard boiled detective show. Not a lively, crazy, action shounen.

No, he 100% deserved it. He fucked up that series on purpose. Imbecile really thought he knew better than the original author. All he had to do was take the manga, and animate it. that's it. That's what everyone wanted. Would have been easy.

The Chainsaw Man anime was the most disappointing thing since my son. I mean, how much more could you possibly fuck up the entire Chainsaw Man adaptation? And while my son eventually hanged himself in the bathroom of the gas station, the unfortunate reality of MAPPA's adaptation of Chainsaw Man is that it'll be around... FOREVER. It will never go away. It can never be undone.
And if you're someone who's like under the age of 20, and your favorite anime is Chainsaw Man because it was, "the most cinematic one"... then I suggest you to stop reading my post right now... before I carefully explain how much of a fucking idiot you are.
So where do I possibly start... nothing in MAPPA's Chainsaw Man feels like the manga at all. Comes off like an anime directed by someone that doesn't understand Fujimoto or movies. It's like Nakayama finished the directing in one take... and like called it cinematic and MAPPA decided to go with it without anyone saying it didn't capture Fujimoto's vision at all and was a boring, pretentious mess. I guess that this point who's going to question Nakayama or tell him what to do? He controls every aspect of the anime... and MAPPA blindly trusted a newbie anime director that believed he was above anime.
I also assume everyone thought an anime about Chainsaw Man would be an instant hit, regardless of how the directing was done. Really how hard could it be to screw up? It'd be like screwing up mashed potatoes....

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