One Piece

Gerd-chan

wants to fuck human men

wants giant men tortured and humiliated

What did Oda mean by this character?

Very good friends

It is the greatest honor to be taken as the wife of a gallant Holy Knight like Shamrock or Sommers.

Most commoner wives are ungrateful to have been chosen by a god like Charlos. Charlos is a great man!

Only Loki, she fucks Hajrudin on the side

KM

I hope Kimura picks the fuck up because his voice sounds like weak shit. He has potential but is somehow not using it.

Cool it with the cd rhetoric pal

Yamato is so lucky

Why is Ulti so fucking cute?

Agreed. Reminder that Kizaru could solo all of Elbaph btw.

Hide your daughters from Shanks

Yamato looks so sexy here...how did Kaido contain himself around his semen demon?

Even Shanks? Ain't no way...

Pizzaru

soling anyone

Nah

strange, this post is clearly from me, but I don't remember making it...

WAHOO!

Alcoholism kills sexual drive. Also having a retarded kid.

Rayleigh: 188cm

Roger: 274cm

It's funny how Roger is never depicted his literal admiral size.

That is because (You) are me.

You don't actually believe that jobber like Blackbeard is final villain, right? This is all just memes, right?
Like his crew quite literally screams "Fodder". They were beaten by a small squad of Akainu's underlings.
1 Admiral neg diff'd them all while drinking in a bar (remember that even Doflamingo could break out of Kuzan's ice)

You have to unironically believe that Zoro and Sanji will go from fighting Gorosei/Admirals to fighting fucking Shiryu and Pizzaro in EoS to believe that Blackbeard is final villain.
This is basic power progressions.

Blackbeard will be lucky if he's even 3rd to last villain since Imu and Akainu have way stronger underlings.

The smell.

Kaido only got a stiffy while fighting, he didnt give a shit about sex

Incest happens in Big Mom's family so why not? Also Kaido was hitting on Black Maria who is Yamato's age...

Roger doesn't always eat his mushrooms

This is all IRREFUTABLE btw, but you should be ready because the resident BB fag is about to have a meltie from this

Anon, BB has been hyped up the entire series. We don't even know how his true power works. Shanks is afraid of him. He wins every fight even if he initially loses.

He is obviously planning on stealing Imu's throne and absorbing his powers and thus becoming the true King of the World.

He had sex with whoever Yamato's mom was though.

Yeah, 29 years ago. When we see him hes just constantly drunk and looking for fights. His entire life seems like he had a fetish for fighting.

That's his daughter.

Well he does turn into a submissive whore when you punch him

Helmeppo will defeat Mihawk and claim the title of strongest swordsman. Koby will defeat Shanks and become the strongest hakiman. These will be Luffy and Zoro's final tests

So? He has done worse crimes like terrorizing Wano.

Kaido was raped.

Anon, he is a yonko...Nobody is strong enough to rape him.

My wife Nami capturing Seraphim and abusing York

The wanonese deserved it all.

BB has been hyped up the entire series

Not really.
Lots of characters appeared early and are still undefeated until this day. Yet none of them job like jobbeard

We don't even know how his true power works

Don't really care, really.
We don't know how that Orochi's underling and Raizo's enemy ear lobe powers work as well, but it's not something that needs explaining or means shit.
In fact Marco straight up told in marineford right away how he did it, his boddy is just different and that's it.

Shanks is afraid of him

Doesn't mean much.
Shanks is a fag who is afraid of every fodder getting hurt.

He wins every fight even if he initially loses

Once again,
this says nothing when his opponents were jobbers like Ace, Law and 0.000000001% HP WB and he still BARELY beat them.

He is obviously planning on stealing Imu's throne and absorbing his powers and thus becoming the true King of the World

Seems like massive delusional headcanon
meanwhile in reality the fat bitch is begging for WG to recognize his scrub island as a real kingdom and make him a king.

Do you believe that Zoro's and Sanji's final fights will be jobbers like Shiryu and Pizzaro?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T HURT YORK

He's a drunk.

Akainu isn't That strong and doesn't make narrative or thematic sense to be the final villain.

Do you believe that Zoro's and Sanji's final fights will be jobbers like Shiryu and Pizzaro?

Why not? Shiryu will become a stronger opponent then Mihawk due to endgame buffs. Pizzaro did well against Garp so he could become admiral/yonko level in the future too.

Rocks or WB did it

Akainu is cherished by both Oda and the admiral fans community. Oda has been saving and hyping up this man for so long, he is going to be an absolute monster when Oda unleashes him, anon.

You’re laughing… there’s a leaked audio of a Vegapunk begging for her life as Strawhat Luffy threatens to murder her, and you’re laughing.

Akainu is the strongest swordsman in the world, dumbass.

This isn't even close to the longest cover story. Earlier ones were much longer, like Bege's at 37 covers or Luffy's fleet with 46.

Wano derangement syndrome is big in opg

alright, clean those stinkers thoroughly

Honestly, where the hell is this cover story leading towards? Blackbeard pirate's invading Wano? Kaido and Big Mom returning?

Obsidian sword let's goooooo!

TOP 5 IN THE VERSE WITHOUT DF NOR HAKI
THE SLAYER OF SERAPHIM
THE DEFACTO CAPTAIN OF THE STRAWHATS
THE QUEEN OF TANGERINES
THE WEATHER QUEEN
THE HEAD OF THE TABLE OF HOUSE NERONA
THE RICHEST IN EOS
THE FUTURE KING OF THE PIRATES

LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, CAT BURGLAR NAMI

Why not?

because they are weakling jobbers of the highest order?
Shiryu is so weak that Marines has Shiryu's equal working for them as cleaning their jannitor

Meanwhile Pizzaro was so weak that he jobber randomly to Kuzan drinking
and was destroyed by Koby who used him as a testtube for his CoA punch?

When justifying Luffy being an underdog, Oda said that if a character like Akainu was the protagonist, the story would finish very quickly and won’t be as entertaining. Both Sakazuki and Dragon are left for the endgame due to how broken they are.

With what, a rag?

I believe you are confusing Akainu with Mihawk who actually has the title.

cool, get rid of nerfed Zeus first, then measure Nami’s true “power”.

Akainu isn't That strong

Akainu is the strongest tho

and doesn't make narrative or thematic sense to be the final villain

-the guy with the strongest underlings
-the guy with the biggest and strongest army in the world
-the guy with the biggest current bounty
-the guy who scarred Luffy for life both physically and emotionally
-the guy who was the main villain in the first war
-the guy who represents literally the opposite of freedom ( absolute control)

If Koby will become admiral level in the future, why can't the same happen with Shiryu and Pizzaro?

BB is going to be the final villain so he needs more capable subordinates. Imu has his wanted poster for a reason. Oda off-screens all of BB's fights for a reason, anon, because Oda doesn't want to reveal his true power yet.

Also this is a pirate story NOT a World Government story and NOT a Navy story.

So final battle will be Luffy VS Blackbeard, Pirate VS Pirate.

29 years ago

People don't seem to process the fact that Yamato is the exact same age as Pre-Timeskip Nico Robin.

HOUSE NERONA

Who the fuck wants that? It diminishes the world.

Ok this made me kek

Ignore the LunaSchizo, they seem to believe Nami has some sort of special lineage like being a Celestial Dragon from the Nerona family.

She captured the seraphims without Zeus, so...

That's weird, I swear Vegapunk is a man

Freshly boiled lobster
My plate

You do the math, Akainu, eh!

all evidence points to zoro being canonically homosexual

have sanjichuds gone too far?
cbr.com/one-piece-anime-manga-sanji-change-explain/

Kizaru will kill Shamrock btw.

With all openness to being proven wrong, I'm not sold on Akainu or any admiral besides Prime Garp being a legendary tier (picrel) fighter.

all evidence points toward zoro fans being lobotomites

What killed the hype?

all evidence points to zoro being canonically asexual

Modern geek media is the lowest trash in the internet.

all evidence points to sanji being canonically transgender

The Giants aren't very interesting, I'm much more interested in the Holy Knights and the lore stuff.

If Koby will become admiral level in the future why can't the same happen with Shiryu and Pizzaro?

Because Koby has established endgoal, is young and has fast growth

meanwhile BB's underlings already were established as the pirates who basically reached their peak and are old. Now the only way they grow is by eating a jobber DF power for quick weak powerup.

BB is going to be the final villain

You seriously need to stop throwing this headcanon around.

so he needs more capable subordinates

Or maybe it's time to realize that his subordinate power shows that he's not endgame villain and just another Kaido/Big Mom with weak subordinates?

because Oda doesn't want to reveal his true power yet.

That doesn't mean he has to job to near death against weaklings, bozo.
Oda did not want to reveal Queen's power against Big Mom too. What am I supposed to take away from that?

Also this is a pirate story NOT a World Government story and NOT a Navy story.

So final battle will be Luffy VS Blackbeard, Pirate VS Pirate.

This """""logic"""""" makes no sense.
It's only a pirate story from protagonist POV but another pirate being enemy because it's pirate story does not.
The real enemies to pirates are Navy (the ones that hunt them) you retard. It's like saying criminal's biggest enemy is another criminal and not police. Straight up retard.
And WG quite literally rule the world (which is BB's dream)

Ulti gets a happy ending

all evidence points towards kiku literally groping and manhandling zoro, with his consent

not enough bonney

arrive at Elbaf, the land of warriors

actually, it's completely demilitarized now in a time of huge turmoil lol

just kids, humanfucking women and cucks

first hint of trouble arrives

AIIIIEEEEE STRAWHATS HELP US

Giants once again proving that they are massive punching bags.
Loki might liberate them.

I haven't read Elbaf yet, since I'm waiting to binge read it once it's done.

Who is this shadowy person?

Rocks D. Xebec

Rocks.

Ai anon, can you make a ai image of this?

That's Loki

Blackbeard's ambitions are the World as proven by Van Auger's line when he spoke to Saturn.

Saturn and the Gorosei are also aware of BB's "special" lineage, whatever it is.

BB wants to join the WG so that he can OBVIOUSLY get inside Marie Joa and kill Imu, dude how could you miss easy foreshadowing like that?

BB also has a more personal connection to Luffy then Imu or Akainu because BB was the one who captured Ace in the first place.

Also you call BB a jobber but Imu failed at killing Sabo and jobbed to Joyboy's gigachad haki (if Imu is a woman she probably orgasmed to it kek).

Probably because you are autistic about old gen?
You think Garp is only strong because he fought Roger and somehow believe that Akainu is not strong because he didn't, even though Akainu was a rookie back then.

Garp is merely Sengoku's equal.
Both are inferior to Akainu's portrayal. Both are Akainu's underlings.

Jobs to Xebec

Jobs to Shanks

Jobs to Gear 3 Luffy

Jobs to hot food

Loki is a bum. All Lokitards have autism for thinking that scrub will amount to anything.

You are not ready for Loki to go all out and no diff the monster trio and then kill Shanks.

Is this powerlevel rating accurate?
1. Imu
2. Rocks D. Xebec
3. Shanks
4. Blackbeard
5. G5 Luffy

Loki get's up

Does some damage to a Holy Knight

Loki then get's his ass beat

Lokitards: "It's not fair! Loki was heavily injured! That Holy Knight is beyond Yonko tier!"

It's all so predictable and tiresome.

Get Imu of this list. This bum jobbed to Joyboy haki.

That will never happen. None of the knights can defeat Loki except for maybe Shamrock who left.

Loki is an aryan GIGACHAD and is stronger then Kekdo btw.

Rape Machu.

1.luffy

he will beat them all lil bro

1. Imu
2. Roger
3. Prime Whitebeard
4. Xebec
5. Shanks

Suicide. Deadstream it.

Roger had to team up to beat Xebec. How is he stronger than him?

Imu low-diff'd one of the Gorosei, the same Gorosei who chased G5 Luffy away.

t. unironic faggot

what did oda mean by this?

Rocks D. Xebec

Stop listing dead guys.

low diffing a bumrosei is considered a feat now

Blackbeard's ambitions are the World as proven by Van Auger's line when he spoke to Saturn.

and?
So were Meme's and Kaido's. How did that end up for them?

Saturn and the Gorosei are also aware of BB's "special" lineage, whatever it is.

and?

BB wants to join the WG so that he can OBVIOUSLY get inside Marie Joa and kill Imu, dude how could you miss easy foreshadowing like that?

Uhhhh, retard.
Being declared a kingdom and a king doesn't mean you get a right to join the reverie.

That's why Kaido's Vodka kingdom could not attend the reverie and were only given the offer after they gave Kaido to navy.
The fact that you believe that BB will be invited to reverie when Germa was literally REMOVED from being allowed to reverie just for being associated with a yonko, shows me how dumb you are.

BB also has a more personal connection to Luffy then Imu or Akainu

LMAO the fuck? No he doesn't.

because BB was the one who captured Ace in the first place

so?
Akainu both killed Ace and scarred Luffy

Also you call BB a jobber

Because he is

but Imu failed at killing Sabo and jobbed to Joyboy's gigachad haki

Notice how Imu did not job to Bepo lmao

Loki owes me sex

Shirahoshi…

Roger had to team up to beat Xebec. How is he stronger than him?

We don't know if Roger and Garp defeated Xebec in a 2v1. Roger most likely defeated him solo while Garp fought Whitebeard and the rest of the Roger pirates fought the remaining Rocks pirates (Big Mom, Shiki, Kaido).

BB has plans to get into MJ and kill Imu. He intends to do this by first helping the WG fight off the revs blowing up the gondolas (as can be seen by Lafitte observing things in Red Port)
He'll make a deal with them so that they legitimize Pirate Island and allows him and his crew to get inside MJ.
Don't forget Devon impersonating Saturn which can help things out here, maybe Devon will take control of the Serafim and use it against them.
Once they're inside, they kill Imu easy peasy.

1. Joyboy (original)
2. Imu
3. Rocks D. Xebec
4. Shanks
5. Blackbeard
6. Gol D. Roger
7. G5 Luffy
8. Akainu
9. Kaido

Den Den Mushi Zoan

luffy will beat every single one of them, he is number 1

Akainu

The bum who took 10 days to take down a logia merchant and lost to Old Whitebeard after he had heart attcks, cancer, shot at and stabbed lol. He's nowhere near the top 10.

He is. Akainu was mentally nerfed against Old Whitebeard and didnt use his Conqueror's Haki nor Logia Awakening against Whitebeard.

I wonder if the slaves all belong to Celestial Dragons and there are no real owner.

Kuma and his father were tied up outside, and Kuma's father was shot by a CD.

BB has plans to get into MJ and kill Imu

Holy fucking kek
you just keep repeating your delusional headcanon with no proof

He'll make a deal with them so that they legitimize Pirate Island and allows him and his crew to get inside MJ.

Once again, you buffoon. Germa is not even allowed to attend the reverie just for trying to team up with a Yonko.
Meanwhile you are here deluding yourself that they will allow a yonko to come there because...??

Don't forget Devon impersonating Saturn which can help things out here maybe Devon will take control of the Serafim and use it against them

They know Saturn is dead, schizo.

Once they're inside, they kill Imu easy peasy.

Fatbeard can barely beat Law by jumping him with half of his crew
yet you are deluding yourself he can even get past Gunko without jobbing so hard he's near death

the bludmirals fear the yonkochads

As long as BB and his crew have a good backstory and fights I don't mind if he's not the final villain.

Luffy's G5 time limit makes him weak. He had to flee from Kizaru and rely on Kuma to protect his nakama while he was recovering. If they fight on an island with no food Kizaru kills him.

The same Gorosei who outlasted G5 Luffy and chased him off of Egghead?

Akainu vs Whitebeard= mental nerf
Aokiji vs Garp= mental nerf
Kizaru vs Luffy= mental nerf
Aramaki vs Shanks= pussed out

LOL We should be more considerate of the admirals mental health when they fight otherwise it wouldn't be fair! Admiraltards and their cope never ceases to make me laugh.

celestial dragon breedingslaves

keep reading lil bro, luffy gonna beat all your favorites.

Gaban bluds will be mid diffed soon

Its not a headcanon. It is fact and the story is clearly headed that way. Just like Zoro fighting Mihawk what I said is inevitable.

The WG is VERY desperate right now after Vegapunk's message which is leaving their resources thin. Why do you think the knights are trying to conquer Elbaph?

The WG and Imu will have no choice but to accept BB's help in dealing with the revs and grant his Kingdom legitimacy and invite them into MJ.

Also I'm curious how you believe BB will be defeated if he isn't going to be the final villain?

And also, BB still managed to defeat Law and all previous opponents even if INITIALLY he was losing to them. This is because Oda is INTENTIONALLY making you underestimate him, and your falling for it, it would seem.

Keep coping. Admirals get mentally nerfed by Oda because they are too strong and Oda is saving them for endgame where they will go all out.

You can't refute this.

Blackbeard has Law's 3 poneglyph copies and kidnapped pudding to read them. It's a 100% guarantee that Blackbeard loses to Luffy while fighting over the last Poneglyph

thinking this jobber is going to do ANYTHING to the former Left Hand of the Pirate King

lmao

Luffy has 0 reason to fight BB dude. The 4th poneglyph is on Elbaph being held by Scopper Gaban who is Hinokizu (he has a flame scar on his forehead and he is telling the Strawhats to meet him at the end of the arc).

BB has no reason to fight Luffy right now either. His plans are focused on the WG and Imu.

The idea that Admirals are only using 50% of their power in the fights that we seen is insulting to anyone with standards. If Oda makes admirals magically pull out CoC and awakenings just to keep them as a threat then the manga would be poorly written slop. Mental nerfs are cope of the highest order.

mentally nerfed

Nah, just your good old plot armor.

The 4th poneglyph is [headcanon]

Perhaps you should take your meds

More like Turd-chan.
Can I get a "boom roasted!"

Anon, Akainu is only slightly stronger than Kuzan.

We haven't seen a single Admiral go all out or use their full power (Logia Awakening + Advanced haki types)

That is FACT. You aren't ready for when they show what they're made of in Final War.

So Luffy just get's a free ride to Laugh Tale and Blackbeard does nothing about it? Why did he attack Law and kidnap Pudding if he isn't interested in the One Piece and Laugh Tale?

I thought Nika was going to be some Buccaneer thing but then it just ends up being from the Giants.

It is, retard. If the 4th Poneglyph isn't in Elbaph then where the fock is it? Oda needs the Strawhats to find it eventually, and Gaban is so obviously the guy who has it.

t-they're strong!!

who gives a shit by the nature of the story they'll still lose to stronger people (luffy)

Kaido and Big Mom didn't have awakenings. Why would Admirals?

picrel

lol

He has GREATER interest in being King of the World rather then merely the Pirate King. Also he will fight Luffy after he kills Imu, duh.

On Lodestar, retard.

And a Blud Diff Nerf Chad Truth bomb to you too anons, or should I say Chadns?

BB is headed to Wano probably to get their Poneglyph and ancient weapon.

Why do all the characters say Hinokizu is a guy who constantly sails around on a signature black ship while luring people into whirlpools if Scopper's been chilling on Elbaph plowing Ripley for the last 20 years

Because Crydo and Big Meme are jobber weaklings who failed their dreams.

Admirals are gigachads who Oda has saved for endgame, of course they have awakenings.

Because thats a red herring thrown by Oda. Who else but one of the Pirate King's own crew members would have the 4th Poneglyph?

Admirals are gigachads

admiral was bitchslapped by geriatric man with a hole in his chest

Shanks above Roger

Akainu above Kaido

No Whitebeard

No Garling

Gear5ffy any lower than 3rd

The last road poneglyph was originally on Fishman Island but went missing, so we can surmise that it was taken by THAT man.

He attacked Law to gain his poneglyph copies and kidnapped Pudding so she can read them. He loses to Luffy fighting over the last Poneglyph. Cope and seethe all you want but it's obvious that the story is set up that way.

He was mentally nerfed and couldn't go all out, like I said. If Akainu had used his full power, WB would've died instantly along with the rest of his crew.

Its not a headcanon.

LMFAO

The WG is VERY desperate right now after Vegapunk's message which is leaving their resources thin. Why do you think the knights are trying to conquer Elbaph?

Bitch, Navy's 0.5% man power managed to FUCK UP Blackbeard's strongest force and his whole island

The WG and Imu will have no choice but to accept BB's help in dealing with the revs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Fatbeard can barely beat Bepo
can barely survive Akainu's underlings
but for some reason he is needing to deal with rev fodder
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and grant his Kingdom legitimacy and invite them into MJ

Ah yes, WG knows the truth about him and will invite him because they needed him to beat up some rev fodder (HAHAHAHAH)

Also I'm curious how you believe BB will be defeated if he isn't going to be the final villain?

Next arc fighting for the last poneglyph
BB has Luffy's grandpa and can just taunt him

And also, BB still managed to defeat Law

Barely

and all previous opponents even if INITIALLY he was losing to them

You fucking doofus, that's not impressive
Imagine being impressed he beat Usopp after extreme diff FUCKING KEK

This is because Oda is INTENTIONALLY making you underestimate him

No he doesn't.
He just keeps showing you how bad of a fighter he is and that he can only win with tricks and deceive (by jumping his opponents)
He needed to jump Law because he could not beat Law 1v1

Nika is a thing from the First World, back when it was a normal-ass post-modern world analogous to our real world, no giants or buccaneers or minks or whatever, just plain old normal humans slaving away for their rulers. The idea of Nika has somehow survived the apocalypse and immortalized as part of a mythology, which has been adopted by the multitude of strange races popping up in the 2nd world.

I personally doubt Nika ever really existed, but that’s doesn’t matter anymore.

The only post timeskip main arc villain Luffy has beat in a fair 1-on-1 is Hody Jones.

Punk Hazard

Luffy got choked out by Caesar and had to be rescued.

Dressrosa

Sabo had to buy him time so his G4 could recover against Doffy.

Whole Cake Island

Luffy had to flee and hold the mirror lady hostage to recover his G4 against Katakuri. He also needed help against the first guy he fought early in the arc.

Wano

Zoro and several others helped him against Kaido.

Egghead

Both Luffy and Kizaru could no longer continue during the fight, but the only difference is that Kizaru recovered first and went on the offensive. Luffy had to hide like a bitch and rely on Kuma to rescue his friends from Kizaru.

Anon, Akainu is only slightly stronger than Kuzan.

And Kuzan was established to be as strong as Prime Garp but also ate strongest logia

So basically he's a way stronger version of Prime Garp

imagine how mindbroken admiralfags will be when luffy claps them

all those years of hyping up those celestial dragon asslickers

Why would Oda spend all that time hyping up BB only for him to lose to Luffy before the penultimate arc?

There are too many parallels between them. (Remember the cherry pie scene in Jaya?)

Luffy has the Nika fruit and BB has been theorized to have the Dark Nika fruit as well. (the Giants in Elbaph confirm this because there are many different ideas of Nika so Luffy is the Liberator Nika and BB is the Destroyer Nika)

It makes no sense for BB to lose before...a black silhouetted blob? (Imu)

dark nika

sounds too fucking lame to be true

admirals will lose at the end

No shit.

Luffy isn't going to "clap" any of the admirals.

Admirals are the strongest characters of the story, Luffy is going minimum extreme-diff with Akainu in their inevitable fight.

Same with Zoro VS Fuji and Sanji VS Kizaru

Luffy didnt beat anyone and had to be saved 3 times by Kizaru, the giants and eventually Emeth using Joboys haki in Egghead. Blud was outmatched that arc

Why would Admirals?

Anon,
where do you think volcanoes and never ending fire that can even burn the ocean came from on Punk hazard?

Where do you think ice mountains came from in punk hazard and are still to this day there even though Kuzan in his introduction said his ice lasts for 7 days in a frozen sea?

see
The only main arc villain post timeskip Luffy has beat in a fair 1v1 is Hody Jones. His timelimit on G4 and G5 makes him weak. Akainu is definitely going to be stronger than Kaido. Akainu is stronger than Kizaru. Kizaru more or less beat G5 Luffy in Egghead whereas Kaido got killed by G5 Luffy. Luffy had to flee and rely on Kuma to protect his friends when he fought Kizaru.

No I mean I thought Nika was a mythological figure from Buccaneer mythology, but he is from Giant mythology instead.

Kuzan was established to be as strong as Prime Garp

Where, exactly?

Heres your lobster Saint Jalmack. Well rcooked and salted. I can cook skme kosher sausages later too if you want

this aint some honorable samurai duel lil bro, they're pirates.

your favourite admiral is gonna get gaped

Let's hope Luffy won't be needing to get saved by an Admiral who is trying to lose and still won

Kuzan easily defeated Garp whilst being mentally nerfed when fighting his mentor.

None of Garp's attacks did any significant damage towards Kuzan.

Also Kuzan didn't use his logia awakening against Garp which confirms he wasn't going all out.

Luffy is going to defeat

Imu

Bleackbeard

Akainu

Shamrock

He will defeat all of them 1v1 with a strong punch

Where, exactly?

Here

Why is this faggot so unhinged? Kek

I know right? He refuses to accept obvious foreshadowing that BB is the final villain lmao.

with a strong punch

*sighs*
Yeah...

Kaido died from falling in lava.

What is Akainu made out of?

falling

Luffy knocked his ass in there with a giant punch. Luffy killed him.

You think he should kick more?

So Saturn, do you want me to make some Seraphim from the Yonko? I already have Kaido DNA, Big Mom's wasn't hard to get, Whitebeard's was easy too. Should make for some strong fighters

no, make them from the Seven Warlords

are you fucking serious, even Moria?

yes, as a joke

He's coming back.

His timelimit on G4 and G5 makes him weak

That's given. The post says "G5 Luffy", not Luffy (holistically). For as long as Luffy gets to use Gear 5, he can wipe the floor with everyone who isn't likewise an entire league above Kaido, which I can only see being true for Imu and Joyboy.

Kizaru more or less beat G5 Luffy in Egghead

Lmao even

Why would Oda spend all that time hyping up BB only for him to lose to Luffy before the penultimate arc

So that he can explain about Blackbeard's special lineage and the "D" clan during his fight with Luffy. Otherwise the entire plot of One Piece will be hidden untill the final battle with Imu.

Headbutts are cool too.

Kuzan needed help defeating old Garp and did no damage to him. If old Garp hit him with one Galaxy impact then Kuzan would be dead. Prime Garp would have casually killed him

The Elbaf mural shows Luffy fighting Imu with a sword and shield

with one Galaxy impact then Kuzan would be dead

The same galaxy impact that pirate fodders survived in Hachinosu?

How do we know that is Imu?

It could easily be BB after absorbing Imu's powers.

Oda needed Big Mom's fruit to only work with voice commands to kill her off

Pathetic

Kuzan needed help defeating old Garp

You probably think school shooters are OP because they get taken out by multiple SWAT teams

and did no damage to him

What damage did Garp do...to anyone?

If old Garp hit him with one Galaxy impact then Kuzan would be dead

Tell me who did he beat with any of his attacks?
He can't even defeat Pizarro

He knocked Sanjuan Wolf into the sea with an unnamed punch and hard Pizarro screaming like a little girl from 1 attack

Reminder that the same retards who think Blackbeard won't be final villain are also likely to be the ones who think Imu is a woman.

Grow up

They both stood up 2 minutes later.

tells me to grow up after his schizo rant where he thinks BB will be defeated before the Final War lmao

Keep crying

Luffy knocked out Kizaru then ran out of energy. Nither could continue the fight. Only difference is that Kizaru recovered first and went back on the offensive whereas Luffy had to flee and find food. Kizaru is thus the winner. Luffy was so helpless his entire crew would have been killed had Kuma not arrived. Luffy needs external items to beat Kizaru thus he's not stronger than him. If they fight again in a closed off location where there is no hiding place or food, Kizaru kills him.

They both stood up after Garp was dealt with offscreen. Someone had to fish Wolf out of the ocean to save him

least mentally ill BB hater:

He knocked Sanjuan Wolf into the sea

Why is that impressive?
btw, Sanjuian wolf came back with a BUMP on his forehead LMAO

with an unnamed punch

anime filler

and hard Pizarro screaming like a little girl from 1 attack

not impressive, in fact Pizaro tanked it no problem and was mad
and weakling Koby not only made him scream, but broke him arm and made him bleed

Shurorororo, I've spent years perfecting this formula using my 200 IQ and mastery of my logia powers allowing for unheard of molecular manipulation and my careful planning of showing off my-

Gomu Gomu No...

York anal

Why are all the straw hats virgins?

Where is the schizo rant? Blackbeard has 3 Poneglyph copies and kidnapped Pudding. That meants that he wants to go to Laugh Tale and become Pirate King. Therefore, he will be dealt with by Luffy over the final Poneglyph. Get over it. If you're too retarded to understand basic logic then that's your problem. Don't try to bring me down to your level of autism by constantly saying your headcanon over and over.

can't refute

"need BB's help to fight rev fodder"
BBfags are clowns just like their character

Who fished Sanjuan Wolf out of the ocean? He's a DF eater and they can't move when in contact with sea water.

vggh my admirals are super strong and wont get btfo by luffy!!!

Sex is for after marriage, even the Celestial Dragons don't break that rule

Are you the same schizo who thinks Luffy won't go to Lodestar and we won't have the Lodestar arc?

Nami and Robin aren't

P-Please reply to my mental breakdown capslock ranting...

No and stop being a schizo, retard.

Proof?

Brook slept with her outside of marriage and stole her precious thing THOUGH

Franky being a virgin is unimaginable to me

Blackbeard has 3 Poneglyphs and Pudding. He will fight Luffy over the last poneglyph and lose. End of Blackbeard's story. What island he loses on makes no difference to me.

No chance Franky, Brook and Jinbe are virgins.

Brook put his THING in THERE? Yohoho

I really hope Vivi gets a cool fruit

"noooo you can't laugh at my delusions with a capitalized letters"

KEKAROOOOOOO
autist now afraid of caps lock

I really hope that she can use haki and makes fun of half of the crew for not being able to use it.

I'm not the Russian guy. I much prefer Nami with Vivi which actually pisses him off

Mera Mera

cool fruit

Yuki Yuki you mean.

Blackbeard has more aura and is more threatening then Incelmu and Akainu plus his personal connection with Luffy. Luffy has a score to settle with BB which makes their final confrontation at the end of the story much more satisfying.

/dbs/issy retarded lingo

kek you are so retarded that you don't realize that you are acting like a lolcow here, please continue being our laughing stock.

Oooh! The rabble are squabbling again....

clearly something special about her bloodline sine they were able to resist imu

Blackbeard has more aura and is more threatening

lmao
the guy is laughed at whenever he appears on screen
last time he was begging bepo for mercy

plus his personal connection with Luffy

They have no personal connection, you autist
Akainu straight up killed Ace by ace having to defend Luffy from Akainu, which is more personal than capturing Ace because he happened run into him on a random island

Luffy has a score to settle with BB which makes their final confrontation at the end of the story much more satisfying

settle what, you autistic schizo? lmao

Tama Zoan

Did Blackbeard casually commit numerous genocides, wipe out an island with a mega laser and fight the Serpent of Hell and Joyboy? Nope? Didn't think so. Imu> Blackbeard.

Jinbe, Robin, Franky, Brook

Nonvirgins

Zoro, Nami

Ambiguous

Luffy, Sanji, Usopp, Chopper

Virgins

our

Don't drag us into this. You're on your own, weirdo.

The day Blackbeard kills Shanks will be the day he certifies himself as Final Villain and a huge threat to the world. Can't wait to see you two cope kek.

Also, again, this is a pirate story, which means a battle between the strongest good guy pirate (Luffy) and strongest bad guy pirate (Blackbeard) would be incredibly epic and an amazing way of ending One Piece as a story.

Didn't want to kill Vegapunk

Fed Luffy so that he doesn't have to kill Vegapunk

Kills vegapunk

Get's his ass beat numerous times

Flattened into a disc and thrown away

Lucci and Kizaru are tied for being the Egghead arc jobbers.

wipe out an island with a mega laser

So he didn't use his powers and had to use a weapon? pathetic.

Don't reply to me then, retarded fag.

The pirate story got retconned as a side quest. Luffy defeated either Shanks or Blackbeard as the final pirate villains and he becomes pirate king. He has to then go on to defeat Imu to achieve his real dream. Imu> Blackbeard

Back in my day my bounty was like a trillion, good times, I invented bounties btw

post bonney

Luffy has no beef against the WG. He doesn't even focking know Imu exists. Whereas BB he does know very well and absolutely hates him.

Plus Luffy is the Sun God and Blackbeard represents absolute darkness, their final confrontation is so obvious I'm amazed your failing to misunderstand a children's comic book story.

BB was also introduced way earlier which means he is more important then Incelmu.

Blackbeard hasn't won on his own merits since pre-time skip Ace. Imu fought the Serpent of Hellfire and Joyboy and at worst survived and at best won.

Kids these days got no respect, I invented the Government, I invented Slavery, I invented Devil Fruits, I invented war, I invented the Red line, I invented genocide

That brat Jorul still won't join me

headcanon

Imu jobbed to Emeth's joyboy haki knot, 0 chance he defeated Joyboy fairly...probably did an Orochi like trick and thats how he won kek.

and absolutely hates him

I dont think luffy cares much about blackbeard

What guarantees you that he didn't simply use the ancestral weapons to defeat Joyboy? So far his only attack was against Sabo and he survived lol

Winning is winning. Blackbeardfags have no room to criticize considering that Blackbeard never fights fair.

He reacted negatively to him in Dressrosa via Den Den Mushi.

When Blackbeard kills Shanks Luffy will definitely hate him.

Can't blame them, literally anything is more exciting than BB as the final villain. Koby. Zombie trans Ace. A typewriter. I could go on like this forever

Top Man, bring me the butterfly

she is sucking dicks in wano´s red light district

behold

Ai sloppa

Finally, something good happens in Wano

I can't refute this... Yonkobluds I'm getting worried...

Most Beast Pirates girls are stuck in Wano, disorganized and are easy pickings. Monster girl brothels are the future.

Even weird dog girls?

She is going to run the place once she collects Black Maria and her girls, too.

AI spammer killed the thread

Or there are just no Americans, Mexicans, or Brazilians in here, because in Western Europe it's almost 2 in the morning.

Hi!

Yeah, it's Friday night, who would spend their night alone shitposting here?
Couldn't be me.

Greetings from Dvtchland, my fellow monkey

Bro, literally what can you even do against lava? Haki cannot protect you against it, its pure fucking heat. Akainu is stupidly overpowered, he can strain up cover an island in lava, what will his opponent do then? Thats right, they'll fucking melt.

If Haki nullifies devil fruit powers, and the magma's heat is a feature of Akainu's devil fruit, then it follows that Haki nullifies the heat.

this is still the greatest and funniest one piece moment

Blackbeard has 3 Poneglyph copies and kidnapped Pudding

Isn't he kind of screwed since the third eye should only be able to hear the "voice" of the original poneglyphs, not some seaweed imprints?
Not to mention the third eye being able to do that hinges on Big Mom's assumption that voice of all things hearing can fully decipher poneglyphs, which Oden's flashback reveals it can't. All it can do is give the wielder a vague idea of what the content is about.
So he's doubly screwed.

haki nullifies devil fruit powers

Except it doesn't. All it does is allow you to inflict damage on Logia types.

Kizaru...

The World is now in the great Age of Pirates

Who will be the one to beat up the Law enforcement and become King?

My fortune is yours for the taking, but you'll have to beat up some Admirals to get it

Also some demons but that's a surprise for later

Garp is unironically probably the strongest of his generation. Roger said they almost killed each other several times, and said if you want to capture him you'd have to bring Garp or Sengoku.

Sure Roger was also equal to Whitebeard and possibly Rocks, but they all use meito grade swords and Whitebeard even uses a devil fruit on top of that with the power to destroy the world.

Garp is equal to all those guys just by throwing hands.

Top 5 in the verse without haki or a df

Dory and Broggy(no haki according to zorabs)

Ms. Goldenweek

Nami

Carrot

Paulie

Any questions?

Whoops how the fuck did I miss Bepo when I posted a pick of him

Sorry gonna have to knock down Paulie out of the top 5

Not sure if this got through but I'm not denying that Akainu is extremely strong, I just don't think he's Pirate Hokage tier.

Why did you forget Franky?

Who knows whether a DFless Loki could defeat both gigachads at once, but 1v1 he would fold everyone.

So long gay Rocks

black pantsu

Lame

canon pantsu

Joyboy (original)

1

jobs to Imu

without haki

Garp still kills everyone in there using pure retard strength, wtf is this stupid ass list?

Garp has haki

No-pantsu?

Still has haki though

There is no DFless Loki at the moment

that's a boa thing

No he is in question when Luffy said everyone is using haki which included franky

How fun are their parties? Is that sausage made of minks or fishmen?

Imagine all the raping

Marigold doesn't need underwear, her huge fat folds hide everything from view.

none of that island use underwear

It's made of Topman

Yeah it really seemed like you were listing the strongest characters in 1P if we remove DFs and Haki, not merely the strongest that never had them to begin with.

Garp has haki

He can turn it off

In your headcanon maybe.

Franky is at the actual top of the no haki no DF list.
Followed by the Pacifista Mk3s.

rope

Like how he killed the nameless BB fodder?
Oh wait

Followed by the Pacifista Mk3s

Really slow thread today, huh.

I haven't even been in this thread for like 5 hours lmao

Break weeks for ya

Friday nights are always slow. Saturday nights are usually more active for some reason.

I could spice things up a little

Why doesn't Luffy charm his opponents into loving him like with Hancock?

Should Luffy take the final chain off Loki?

post bonney's feet

Not even Asspullfy can beat Imu since Goyboy jobbed like a bitch against him and the first literal Nika too.

Why not? He already freed the edgy goat bearded weirdo that everyone hates and keeps saying how he is going to destroy the world. Why not go all the way?

he does, all his enemies are in love with him see Buggy/Crocodile... even Kaido lamented that he should have killed him but he was in love with him.

so powerful she out offscreens the BB pirates, their specialty

Is there anyone who could possibly even hope to stop her at this point?

How much haki is stored in those things?

She got lucky Devon wasn't there

Usopp counters her

Those are bigger than my head...

anyone with strong haki can counter her fruit effects

UsoppGODS have assured me he's gone through tons of character development and isn't the same useless sniveling negative coward he was in pre-TS though.

so nobody in the BB pirates

anyone with strong [willpower] can counter her fruit effects [of deleting willpower]

She was lucky and only faced nobodies

good thing the BB pirates are full of nobodies

Her powers are about being negative, not will power. This is why Ussop always moves, despite always thinking about the worst outcome.

Is he Perona´s biological dad?

and Toko

Imagine having your world change and be destroyed two times over. I’m surprised Emet wasn’t more sad, but “D” whatever it is was passed down.

Watch Imu be a combination of every villain in the series so far

Regardless of the interaction with haki, I do think Devon would likely be naturally immune to the negative hollows like Usopp was.
She's a fugly femcel and knows it, and is so bitter about it she specifically targets beautiful woman to fucking behead them.

imagine not kidnapping this and making her a breeding sow

slavery

petty

resources / world ending abilities

strong

ambitious

plays games

lies

thinks he or she is a God

wants to rule

feels betrayed

devil/halloween/dragon like

Devon would just transform into Moria and stab her in the back.

“Hell is at the top of the world”

Probably

Bonney lost uncle

Do you guys think that Sengoku and Tsuru will go to rescue Garp the way that Garp tried to rescue Koby?

I choose to believe he's on the way

lol, fuck that guy, i bet this is the best excuse they have to get rid of Garp.

No, he defied the gods of this world and deserves every punishment he gets. I'm going to go beat a slave to death just to spite him.

no but it would be kino if they did

The top 5 in verse dead or alive without haki or DF:

Big Mom

Kaido

Whitebeard

Garp

Lucci

It's just that Saturday night fever

will there ever be a good one piece video game by a competent developer? not one that just shits out the same dogshit reskinned?

No stop asking.

first time i've asked but ok :(

Auger vs. Ussop is going to be the most boring fight ever. Even if Ussop gets future vision haki.

The only way it would be fun is if it's a two on two fight of Usopp on Zoro's back using future observation to tell Zoro how to dodge both Shiryu while invisible and Auger while he teleports, and Usopp uses a paint bomb to reveal Shiryu and catches Shiryu with a shot by firing off shots everywhere Auger is going to teleport to.

A 1v1 sniper battle against a teleporter just sounds boring.

A 1v1 sniper battle against a teleporter just sounds boring

Sounds like Ussop is going to get hit with a CoA infused bullet and die instantly without knowing where Augur even shot him from.

no way, Auger being OP and Usopp fighting with a reject dial would be kino

Usopp has observation haki

Who else comes to Anon Babble just for this general or do you bluds visit other threads too?

Barely. All he does is sense opponents and then runs away from them. A plant based slingshot was a bad idea for primary method of fighting. His dad blew up a ship with 1 shot.

I vote for a 2V2 with Franky and Burgess

tfw not Van Auger/ Shiryu/ Corazaon combo to stealthily warp into Imus Throne room and take embarrassing paparazzi style photos of him on the toilet

Usopps best fighting style was the dials shit. I hate that Oda stopped with that.

Literally Me

Emeth needs to be repaired by Vegapunk so he can finish his mission of murdering every CD on Mary Geiose.

Usopp's for sure going to get future sight and keep Augur on the backfoot by setting endless traps wherever he teleports to while dodging all his countershots

Gerd? More like Turd heh got 'er

Don’t trust a liberal arts professor type woman who never married with a baby boy. Theres a 0% chance that kids turning out okay.

Just you.

Half his body is gone and he shut down in front of Saturn. Hes likely officially scrapped now

Most of the series I like don't have traction for a general, maybe Chainsawman, but the threads are boring lately. Maybe Anon Babble or Anon Babble sometimes.

YOAKE NO MUKOU, YOAKE NO MUKOU

HANASHITAI KOTO TAKUSAN ARUN DA

Did you love Sanji today?

i wish this had abs :(

Our HEROES!

she eats too many potetos for abs

then it's not fat enough

Loki is above them all come one now

My wife

this one is cuter

Ylva is the cutest.

she maintains a neutral calorie intake

not wrong

...and Sabo.

I just had sex with Kiku.

Why did Oda make them into such sexpots?

How is that possible if Kiku stayed back in Wano, Zoro?

STOP BEING GROSS, CHUD!

you're not supposed to say the C word

dont lewd my loli you fag

its simple, Zoro used his ryuma genes to perform haki teleportation and quickly went to Wano to bang Kiku

giwtwm

What was Lucci thinking here?

Discuss Bonney.

Should we powerscale Bonney above Zoro now after her gear 5 moment or do you think she's like 30% of luffy's gear 5?

We still need to see more of Nika Bonney

She's only 20 you sick fuck.
Jokes aside, do the giants really age slower mentally too?

anal slut

monet heart

Monet

heart

Good one anon

I didn't think about that...

Kek

Is the new episode tomorrow or in sunday?

I bet the first world and second world had bittersweet stories.

sunday 1115pm jpn is the new timeslot

The first world was probably about slaves rising against their oppressors by any means. The second world was probably politics and war

They both "end" the world so no shit.

Ah shit. I thought it would come out tomorrow. Unlucky.

well it comes out in 34 hours i think

Binks sake : “if you just hold on, despite the storm, the new dawn will surely come/rise”

The third world is everything in a way

I think the third world is a secret prophecy, as in something hidden from Imu and the WG and only a select few know it

Bonney? WON.

Possible. Though maybe one part of the whole story/prophecy is known by the WG and which is not included in the Harley/mural.

heres your "final" villain bros

What's Bonney dreaming?

Yes, and? He still won that fight just like all the previous ones.

5 whole panels for Teach to recover

Oh my god... Law is so strong...

Reminder that Big Mom is coming back and will become main villain of Elbaph.

fawns over humans (but not in a creepy way like Rodo)

beats Rodo up

That's it, that's her character

Hypocrite that you are because you assume that Imu is actually a Nerona and not some shadow demon with the same name

Tama

Otoko

S-Snake

Atlas

Bonney

giant lolis

Bros I think Oda is a lolicon

Yep, Nerona Imu was a real person in the Void Century.

But there is no reason for us to believe this shadow Imu is that same person.

Rodo:

I fucking hate humans. if I can’t kil them, I’ll make them worship m-

Oh. My. Nika. Is that… a human woman?! AWOOGA! I got a jar with your name on it, my little princess!

Gerd:

oh my nika, humans are so cute! I’ll make tiny little clothes for them as a hobby of mine. no, I won’t perv on then, but aaaa they’re so cute!

retard

Never ask a Giant supremacist who their wife is.

its honestly wild that all the millenial giants are racemixers

I hate Oda's current obsession with leotards. Gunko looks like a cabaret whore even though the entire rest of her gimmick is covering herself up. All because drawing that shit is the only way left for Oda to still get a boner.

Sex with Sommers...

Yamato isn't going to let these violent villains go free, right?

Gunko...

I think you'll find that

these angelic siblings are innocent of all charges

wtf why does he look hot in this pics

Peter genes are great

Stop liking men. Stare at this image to be cured.

Gunko is a pervert and needs to be cancelled

Why would Gunko look at herself?

Kaido has no sex drive and from his perspective drinking and fighting is way more appealing than sex.

He impregnated som woman only because he wanted a son, he ended up with daughter that roleplays as guy. Kaido decided that having daughter that acts like a man is good enough even if its not son because he just wanted to go back to alcohol instead of impregnating some woman again to get actual son.

Luffy would

Well yeah...but Luffy doesn't understand the importance and validity of corrections, imprisonment, parole, and probation.

Hannyaball was so based here.

Truly, he is all our HERO.

yeah but Luffy knows that Ulti has a strong headbutt so its fine

ULTI PLEASE SIT ON MY FACE...

Calm down, Luffy.

he's so cool

Page1...thats your sister...

He reminds me of The Dude from the big lebowski

maybe in appearance, he's nothing like The Dude

He kinda looks like Zeke from AoT. But his power reminds me of that woman captain from Black Clover. I'm curious to see how he fights.

well yeah its just his design is based on the Dude like Enel was based off eminem, hody jones on micheal jackson etc. Not that hes personaility is similar. Well besides being a bit of a schlub

Rogers equals are Whitebeard, Garp and Sengoku. Oda needs to retcon that shit and make Roger the strongest otherwise Luffy surpassing him would be trivial.

But Roger is the strongest...? Whitebeard being equal to him is more like a Mihawk-Shanks type of rivalry.

Garp never truly defeated Roger so he isn't his equal but he was close. Sengoku is lol whatever.

Roger only has a supreme grade sword and haki and somehow he was able to keep up with a man born with crazy durability, has a supreme grade naginata, haki and the strongest Paramecia fruit. Roger needs to be stronger than whitebeard with some hack ability because making him a pure haki man is dumb.

We don't know everything about how Roger fights so yes he could simply just have much stronger haki than what we've seen which would explain why he is superior to Whitebeard.

WB was every bit of a hakiman Roger was. But as Kaido explained it, at some point everything else becomes a flavor, and it's "my haki > your haki". Though I guess WB would not go all out not to kill his own crew.

only people with fancy DFs think that it's "my haki > your haki", only two top tiers are confirmed no DFs

Jackbros...Yamato is going to reject our advances and marry Page1...

Shanks

Roger

Mihawk

Garp

BEASTa

Something made Jack be the most dedicated to Kaidos dream, and that was him compensating for the shame he felt for tapping his captains daughter

Jack the only arc villian in One Piece to never meet a single straw hat and Yamato the straw hat crew member that never was

I unironically want to see an interaction between these two in the cover story. My headcanon is that they are childhood friends.

Reminder that the final battle will be a three way fight on laugh tale between straw hats, koby with the remnants of the navy, and buggy's cross guild

You forgot about Blackbeard.

thinking blackbeard is final boss material

I swore Jack saw Luffy when he was fighting Kaido in Kuri but I guess he randomly disappeared

I think Blackbeard will be the last obstacle before Luffy obtains the One Piece and learns about Imu.

there are still retards to this day who think BB won't be the final villain of One Piece

What about Shanks? And Dragon? And Imu? And Garp? And Akainu? And Smoke

They will all be defeated before BB.

GOOD JOKE.
As if Oda cares about Helmeppo. All SWORD members have 2 hakis and he only has Armament.

He will likely end as another Bogard with Comodore/Captain rank at best. Koby is the one who has Oda favoritism.

Boomer characters of one piece will take a back seat in the final fight

It's going to be by the time it ends.

You're probably right, but Helmeppo becoming zoro tier would be funny since he was the definition of fodder

Imagine if EoS Helmeppo unironically becomes Zoro's marine rival and is stronger then Mihawk lmao.

Shanks

Unless BB finished him he will be here.

Dragon

All will depend if Oda defeats him before and Sabo is now in charge or not

Imu

I suspect that the final war will be in Mariejoa not laugh Tale. Nothing until Pangea castle is attacked

Garp

Who knows

Akainu

Forced to leave his desk? Or deffend Mariejoa will be a priority?

Smoker

Oda ruined this character. To see him as another secondary one(because Oda prefers Koby) I prefer him return to the G-5 than participating in this.

>Imu

I suspect that the final war will be in Mariejoa not laugh Tale. Nothing until Pangea castle is attacked

There is a theory which I subscribe to where the HKs succeed in kidnapping some of the kids and taking them to MJ and the Strawhats are forced to go to MJ to rescue them.

Perhaps he ends as Yc2 commander level(YC1 lev at best). Oda only cares about Koby.
Oda never mentioned Ray have a marine rival. Only Roger. Oda will probably put the main focus in Koby with SWORD because the 1121 pannel.

For this I lost my previous hype with this faction. I could not care less about him. Smoker was better character and ruined in his favour.

There is a theory which I subscribe to where the HKs succeed in kidnapping some of the kids and taking them to MJ and the Strawhats are forced to go to MJ to rescue them.

Is too soon for that but...
It could serve as one excuse FOR ELBAF PREPARE for one future assault to Mariejoa in some months that could coincide with Luffy as PK and they would attack allied with Luffy and others.

He was too powerful for me, Roronoa Zoro...he has taken the title of worlds strongest swordsman from me. Avenge me, Roronoa Zoro!