Who was right? Suzaku or Lelouch?

Who was right? Suzaku or Lelouch?

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Well Suzaku never got anything done while Lelouch managed to get a lot done, so.....

In the end, Lelouche's plan worked and Suzaku's didn't. The show made a point about change from within and change from without.

Suzaku was on the cusp of reinstating Japan and bedding Princess Brittanian pussy to royalhood

Suzaku was right since he didn't have a copy of the script for most of R1.
He was a fucking moron after realizing the people he worked for didn't give a shit because they all had magic red birds in their eyes.

Change from within only works when you're trying to corrupt a country, not the other way around.

lelouch had his eye hax while spinzaku has....... whatever the fuck that is. anime was a mistake

If Lelouch dropped his pride and latent racism against elevens, the SAZ would have been nice

since he didn't have a copy of the script for most of R1.

Did Lelouch have a copy? He's not the director.

latent racism against elevens

What were the signs for this?

Lelouch had a cheat code he didn't need the script

He casually mentions genocide of the people his family is oppressing like its nothing. Maybe he's indifferent at best but still...

Lelouch didn't give a flying fuck about the Japanese or the Elevens. He was just willing to give them Japan, temporarily, so that he could have an army of loyalists to fight Britannia.

The Black Knights saw his lack of emotion and hate to Britannia as him being a hard boiled commander thinking about the big picture, not that he didn't give a shit who died.

He casually mentions genocide of the people his family is oppressing like its nothing.

Wasn't that just a dark joke?

Lelouch Lamperouge was kind to the Japanese citizens he saw being bullied.

No he wasn't, the autonomous zone was never going to be anything more than feel-good smoke and mirrors even if things didn't go off the rails. Euphy had good intentions but is too naive to enact real change

Lelouch Lamperouge was kind to the Japanese citizens he saw being bullied.

No he fucking wasn't lmao.

He related to the hirarchial class system that existed which ended up getting his mom killed, his sister seen as worthless, and his ass shipped to Japan. You missed the entire context of what was shown. Good job that's impressive

Would Suzaku even be allowed to marry Euphy though?

He saved the ice cream man and Kallen when he had no need to. Lelouch sympathized with weak and oppressed people like him. Even when he was brainwashed, he disliked Kallen telling him that the Japanese should just take the abuse.

Is this series actually about the rebellion against the English Empire after one of the princesses got mind controlled into shooting the Japanese population gathering in the stadium, or is it about gayass boys cucking their shitty selves out after losing the loves of their lives?

How are you on Anon Babble and never seen CG?

Heard about it being forcibly meme'd as cuckshit a couple of years back.

after watching the OG Gundam I can say that Suzaku is a little bitch boy and that Amuro in his place may have actually made a difference.
Anyway, Kallen is best girl.

Leave this site and never come back or better yet tie a noose and hang yourself so that no one ever has to put up with a loser like you.

lol have a you

Neither, Sharuru was in the right.
AZ would never work, war and conflict is reality
Charles is laughing at the stupidity of his vassals
It's why he let Lelouch run the empire to the ground, none of his offspring-vassals deserve to rule

It's why he let Lelouch run the empire to the ground,

He did? So he didn't care about Zero's rebellion's and let him do what he wants because he was busy with his Sword of Akasha?

It was a bit of a bother to him but only because it meant some people were sticking their noses in places he was carrying out operations in for artifacts. At the same time it was also a distraction to bring out C2 and unearth them so overall no loss.

If he had gotten his end goal done it wouldn't have mattered in his eyes as everyone would be connected so a war was nothing to him.

At the same time it was also a distraction to bring out C2 and unearth them

How was he trying to do this again?

Either Charles would take over all territory or have it in a system in which everyone is profiled and cc would turn up. Alternatively, one of his kids coming after the throne and his life would draw c2 towards that person as someone powerful enough to kill charles would also be able to kill her for that 'wish'.

How many men did she fuck, canonically?

Allowed to? She gave up her claim to the throne. She was just a commoner in terms of status when she died.

She gave up the stake to the throne but was still a member of royalty IIRC. Essentially go be a talking figure head with some power as long as she road her sisters coattails.

Lelouch’s true love never dies, in fact she’s better by the end of the series than she was at the start.

Nope. She was still royalty while playing that role as figure talking head. Right before the "Bloodstained Euphy" incident, while she was talking with Lelouch in there conversation that triggered it, she said that she just renounced her royalty and claim to the throne. It was going to become public in a few days since it was so sudden. She wouldn't be sub-Viceroy after becoming just a commoner when she renounced her claim to the throne.

Lelouch. Charles was going to do his plan regardless of what Suzaku does. I dunno I haven’t seen it in ten years.

Suzaku should’ve gotten a geass

Saw it recently

If Suzaku had won in the R1/R2 gap and LL never returned nothing would have stopped Charles. Not even going to get into the whole "R1.5" series movies BS. Holy fuck that was full retard.

CG is shit anyways so it doesn't matter if he's seen it or not

change from within

never worked, the system eats individuals

low IQ brainlets think the show proved either change from within or without worked

By the time they teamed up it proved that both methods worked.
Lelu proved he could just usurp the king and from outside and take the throne. Even if he wasn't a prince the geass would have allowed him to do it.
Suzaku meanwhile proved you could change from within. Dude not only became the top knight but because the Knight of 0.

Schneizel

Suzaku's plan, even if it worked, would have only worked for Japan. And they'd still be a vassal, if he/Euphy's leadership was lost (die of old age, assassination, random death, whatever) it'd revert to the previous state immediately.
Lelouch's plan is worldwide and has lasting consequences. Sure, it could eventually go back to warring countries but it'd take decades, or more likely centuries. He saved everyone at once while Suzaku would have only saved Japan for a short time.