One Piece

If there were people stronger than Kaido, why couldn’t they kill him?

Haki?

everyone in this image is final war relevant

Because Kaido didnt do anything to actually antagonize anyone. He was an inert alcohol chugging retard building an army of smiles that got shit on by a plot convenient loli

“It’s such a funny story!”

100 year war between a super power kingdom and 20 kingdoms

They need to do a 12 vs 1 to defeat him while being drunk and holding his whole basement

Roger was a bit crazy

They did.

They'll appear but they're not "relevant", not even admirals are relevant anymore.

Kaido isn't on Imu's kill list.

shut up Barto

Nigga has been planning it since Ennies Lobby and it was mentioned even before during Alabasta. Lets see what he has cooked up for the last 2 decades or so

Why is she always growling?

Wasn't about killing him
It's about waging your army vs. his
Then having to deal with everyone else after the win

she needs my cock

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Any of the top tiers would be able to solo him and his army.

this looks like Yamato is holding her monster futa cock

the mere idea makes them angry more than anything else

Nah
They're all human
Kaidou is the tankiest
1v1 he can still defeat Luffy

So can any of the top tiers.

sex with kinderella

she's not always scowling, she is just often scowling mostly whenever she isn't with Petan.

bro she's growling in the image you just posted, does she ever close her mouth?!

Killingham could've just had a dream based DF rather than another Mythical Zoan and nothing would've changed.

Sometimes something is so horrible the only reasonable response is laughter

that's a mask silly.

It's sad how Mirage Tempo was made useless in front of Observation Haki.

Admiral tards keep claiming he’s just a rumor man and the navy could absolutely kill him if they wanted too

despite the navy having tried to kill him multiple times, every time they captured him

The WG let him live because he was their controlled opposition.

the one piece is going to be a 30 year long "deez nuts" joke

Oda plz

I got left behind...

that's okay carrotbro

I got left behind...

We know Pisssopero n jacky
You have crimes you have to pay for
Carrot will behead you both

Which holy knight ranks highest?

*everyone in this image is my waifu

The only thing that matters.

Now post waifus

Gunko obviously.

when are LUFFYCHUD ready to admit RONANOAH ZOWO CLAPPS DAT BOOTAY IM TALKIN CLAAAPS THAT BOOOTAAAY!

Shanks could have, but he saved him for Luffy's growth.

Is there anyone here who loves Carrot/Tama/Yamato but don't want her to join the crew? Or at least don't mind her not joining.

Gunko would no diff Yamato

I think it's really funny how theorists think there's still going to be a Navy after the final war. I laugh everytime someone says Koby and Luffy will be the new Garp and Roger. In the new world, it'll be just pirates.

Gooning to Goonko

If OP fags had taste it would be Sommers but knowing coomer niggers are over represented in these polls then its likely gonna be Gunko

Black Maria would look so good in one of those Egghead outfits

nah, Yamato has hax defense instead of regen so it would be an interesting fight

Probably, but they get drowned out

The WG will still exist after the final war btw. Luffy never tears down the system, he just installs new management.

would tongue entire body

Shamrock would low diff my prostate

yeah and they would be available in her size, she would probably cry.

Gunko would no-hands Yamato's diff

Koby is the final villain btw. When BB and Imu have both lost, Koby will raise from the ashes and challenge Goofy to a duel

I would lose my hand to an east blue fish

We know Skanks. Did you pay off Kaido to avoid fighting him?

Hope Oda gets bone cancer and dies

I wish I could kiss Roofy…

Gunko simply overpowers her.

There's a long list that would.

No but I sent my 2 handed brother to fight him instead

He's a Straw Hat.
He's always going to be a Straw Hat.
It's time to deal with it.
It's time to enter the Acceptance stage.

are you forgetting she 1v1'd Kaido to stall him?
her defense is broken and she is stronger than Gunko.
All Gunko has is regen.

Shanks just wifi haki diffed Kekdo on his way to Marineford.

his zoan army was filled with failed abominations.
anyone of the yonkos could have wrecked them.
and to think kaido was pissed at law+luffy for wrecking his bootleg df factory.
he should have thanked them, kek

The idea that you even have to remind people he exists speaks to how forgettable he is as a character.

Mean!

Kaido is well below the level of a Holy Knight, and Yamato is weaker still. She really has no chance.

and this is what they were hyped up to be.
i think oda realized he already had minks so he downgraded kaido’s crew

Carrot is.
The other two...not so much.

Scatrot is the most irrelevant of them all though.

I love Carrot and I'm fine with her having her role as king of a joyboy kingdom
Yamato I initially hated for what she brought with her the worst kinds of tourists, now I still despise her personality but her design and abilities are appealing and I would play as her in a videogame so overall I'm neutral towards her
Tama trolling aside is really just an NPC type of character since who the fuck would play as tama in a videogame? what would she even do?

I still think the beast crew was overall more competent and cohesive than Big Mom's mess of incest.

she is literally the king of a kingdom directly related to joyboy with a figure that is still alive

Doesn't matter, she's useless.

what would she even do?

She could drink toxic water and that would bring Luffy to fight in her place.

The yonkos, whether controlled opposition or useful retards, the distinction doesnt matter much, they were extremely useful to the WG, especially Kaido and Big Mom. They were stagnant emperors, hoarding territory and building up military strength but more importantly, hoarding 2 poneglifs necessary to reach the Laugh Tale, basically freezing the race to the Laugh Tale to a stop. A lot of people dont realize how little did the original 4 yonkos care about reaching the one piece themselves, in fact they felt like gatekeepers more than anything.

WB just wanted a family and knew about Void Century, never cares about One Piece or anything sorrounding it

Shanks seems to have wanted to keep the status quo, his intentions are still shrouded in mystery

Kaido and Big Mom were locked in an arms race and neither made big steps towards the One Piece

This served the WG greatly. The yonkos being locked in a cold war of sorts stopped anyone from collecting all road ponegliffs and they also kept bitching zealous newcomers like Moria, Crocodile, Ace, Hawkins, Apoo and many more. Meaning, the WG was for the time being, under the emperor system in the NW, basically safe from anyone reaching the Laugh Tale and also served as a stark reminder to citizens about the evils of piracy. It becomes extremely difficult and different with the new age of yonkos. Blackbeard, Cross Guild and SHs all bear fangs at the WG but are also actively seeking to find the road ponegliffs and reach the Laugh Tale. I think the "world balance" the WG sold pre TS was actually convenient to them, that same world balance is not convenient anymore because the new batch of new world emperors is completely different and if anything directly opposed to WG interests.

Bonney will do more than them combined

okay little jimmy, you can include your toy too

garling will use magic bloodline haki to take control of shanks and make him f*cking k*ll luffy... however garp will do the same thing and they will rockem sockem robots fight by proxy
SOURCE: i am oda

i miss odenposting

Bonney will do more than them combined

She already has.

Shanks knew about Joyboy for decades and was just awaiting the dawn. He also knew what the gomu gomu fruit was since he bothered to steal it from CP9, so he knew it would be Luffy the entire time.

lol

This. I always thought that Kaido and Big Mom were doing the Goroseis job by hoarding the ponegliffs basically making it impossible for anyone to go for the Laugh Tale for decades

I dont think Shanks was attempting to feed Luffy that DF though. He was either contemplating eating it himself (basically becoming Joyboy himself) or he was attempting to find Rogers son and feeding it to him

Reminder that the last Road Poneglyph is held by the man marked by flames who is a Holy Knight, the WG made sure that no one could get to Laugh Tale no matter how the situation with the Yonko changed.

True
Yamato stalling Kaido is the only thing that compares
Egghead was a crazy arc
I'm not expecting anything out of Bonney on Elbaf, but you never know
Her power is just that ridiculous and Oda can use it to get out of most situations if you wants

Yamato stalling Kaido doesn't amount to much, Vista was able to stall Mihawk and Rayleigh was able to stall Kizaru despite being weaker than Blackbeard in his old age.

Why cant Goofy get a stiffy by himself?

Yamato stalling Kaido doesn't [reductive seething nakamatranny babbling and powerlevelshart cope]

fag.
shut up dickspammer.

The only woman he's attracted to is Ulti, he needs Usopp's help otherwise.

Kaido is [HEADCANON]

done.

Yeah. I legit smiled when I saw the dom boots wok the same for huge characters like York, Atlas and Pythagoras. Seeing Maria spilling out of one of those future outfits would be a feast for the eyes. And ass-shots for days.
I could spend the whole day listing them. I've seen some really nice and unexpected ones like Charlotte Praline. Gerd, Ripley, Smoothie or Doll would look great. Huge women need love too

TRVKE

i'll never understand OP powerscaling and i think that's fine

It really wasn't that meaningful, it hardly even counts as stalling. Kaidou didn't give a shit once he thought Luffy was 100% dead, and he was trying to subjugate Yamato instead of killing her. It at least looked cool, and I really liked the sequence in the anime especially with the scene transition at 0:40.
youtube.com/watch?v=J3EE3maMSLc

Young man, while you have mastered what is known as Conquerors Haki among the cattle, among the learned of Marijoise that power is known as 'Malkuth' or kingship.

We among the pure bloodlines of the Holy Land recognize such an ability as merely the first technique of the Sefirot; each of our techniques allow an individual to channel the will of the cosmos, the Ein Sof.

The power of heaven, the will of the divine, is fundamentally superior to the false dreams of the qlippoth-fruits; indeed, there are nine more techniques you must master before you could call yourself equal to the King of the World!

Come now, we have barely begun our conflict! Unleash your hidden potential! Unfetter yourself from those stifling worldly bindings! Manifest your Will and make the world as free as you think it deserves to be! Unless... have you already reached your limit, Joyboy?

Ulti smooches are so amazing they knock you out!

Yonkofags would have a 24/7 meltie if an admiral or a gorosei would got jumped and stabbed and made to scream like a bitch by a bunch of scabbard tier characters.

Useful idiot in order to keep a power balance in the world.

Reminder that Gaban is stronger than Luffy.

gives up at the first sight of Nikaffy

this meltdown over fucking yamato and need to downplay reality

i didn't ask nakamatranny
i thank god every day i'll never be this mentally ill and easily triggered as you tards

says the triggered yamatranny

Luffy getting head from Ulti

Lucky

youtube.com/watch?v=5gdreHUch8I&ab_channel=SparkyKirisame
Pachy dancing! Way to go Pachy!! Keep it up!

In what way did I sound triggered or even slightly annoyed? I even praised it a little.

It's the Carrotsperg/Tamasperg. Stop replying to him man.

like Charlotte Praline.

Based

Huge women need love too

True but I think underutilized like Tashigi or any of the Grandline girls would look amazing.

Yamacute

jinbe

Is shit.

hero to all the Strawhats

saved Luffy multiple times

cured Nami's racism

married Robin

helped Usopp to get over his cowardice

better cook than Sanji

defeated Mihawk in a duel

Blackbeard's terrified of him

will find the One Piece

God I love CHADbe so fucking much.

It's the Carrotsperg/Tamasperg. Stop replying to him man.

i know
fuck that bitch nigga and every device and tard he samefags with.

My wife

I love that sheep so much.

Bonney hasn't been herself in months.

Nah

PLAP

agreed, monet, mikitia, zala, conis, etc, etc

Has there ever been a Shonen anime movie where someone other than the main character beats the movie villain? Even in Dragonball Super Resurrection F which was supposed to be Vegeta's movie Goku got to be the one to kill Frieza for no good reason.

Has there ever been a One Piece movie where Zoro or Sanji step in and 1v1s the main villain?

Insane marketing stunt

Another big problem I had with One Piece. Is that Kaido gets defeated, probably killed.

This is the King of the Beasts. His thing is that he cannot be killed, that he cannot kill himself. Only for Oda to forget that he is indestructible and just have everyone tearing into him like it's nothing.

Like, Luffy doesn't have to defeat every opponent, this was shown before. Just have him lose to Kaido and escape Wano to go get the One Piece.

Does anyone remember Vegapunk's speech?

How skimpy will their outfits get in the next arcs?

They'll just be nude for an entire arc

How skimpy will their outfits get in the next arcs?

Yes

Will Nami ever get married? Shes been a whore for too long.

To Luffy, yes.

Scene where Nami pretends to be a virgin for Luffy's sake, need.

She's still getting ran through at 40.

He could have just jumped off a boat into the sea or off that sky island to a sea and drowned but Kaido was retarded

i bet hiyori gives the nastiest sloppiest rimjobs

Kekdo is weak, deal with it.

Half the population of Wano can confirm.

How come no rodent hints yet?

she is a cougar

When will she ever stop molesting kids? The Marines have a duty to stop this predator.

Break week blud

How is he weak, when he can beat half of the characters in a fight? I'll never understand you anime people. You see the craziest thing, like a cannonball being split in half by a sword, or being able to turn into a fire breathing dragon, and you see it as weak.

When you do this, you make every previous accomplishment in the story meaningless.

Not her fault that the kids wanna fuck her.

trained well

Nami has to squirm like shes being fucked for the first time when she's with Luffy.

Its not that they couldn't kill him. Kaido was a useful pawn in maintaining the world balance by just letting him rule over a chunk of the New World to help keep the emperors in a deadlock along with all the other fodder pirates who went there.

debut 242 chapters/7 years ago

Ironically has more setup than most final shonen villains.

she is the final villain

Could current Blackbeard beat Kaido one vs one?

No.

Nami's pink butthole...

The only Holy Knight that doesn't get their ass beat is Shamrock. Kaido kills the rest.

Before hes beaten its gonna be another 500 chapters or some shit so he will be part of the manga for like 700+ chapters by the end which is longer than the entirety of Naruto and almost every single shonen so

Were they? They had better fighters but were disorganized compared to the Big Mom pirates.

Why is that woman inside a gorilla?

cohesive

No fucking way lmao. BM pirates were weaker on average but they were an actual unit that worked well together, it was one of the main themes that Big Moms kids basically keep this empire running while Meme has retarded hunger pans. Beast pirates were strong individually but a mess as a group, even the cover story is showing it with WsW kidnapping and torturing his fellow crewmates like weeks later

Did he really know what the fruit was? The gomu gomu fruit wasn't in any records and the WG kept it being the Nika fruit a heavily locked down secret. It's more interesting if Shanks just raided a random warship and stumbled across a devil fruit than if he knew what it was all along and wanted to eat it or give it to Ace

Is this what people mean when they say Luffy solo'd Kaido?

They weren't always a disgrace.

Do you really think Oda introduced an unbeatable character to not have him be beaten?

Or even if he knew it was the Nika fruit I wonder if he was thinking on eating it himself or trying to find Ace in East Blue somewhere and Luffy just ate it fucking randomly, basically becoming part of the "prophecy" unintended

From what we've seen later in the story, all Caesars scientific work was a disgrace lets be honest. Vegapunk made Seraphims and Judge made successfully made his kids into weapons of war while Caesar made retarded zoans

Anon that's just really boring ngl which means you're probably right

Why didn't Kuma just take Bonney somewhere nobody would ever find her once she was better?

He could not kill even a single one of the jobbers that fought him.

my queen....and some tranny and a furry

Other than Luffy, only Yamato did anything. If you wanna be generous, you can say Zoro also contributed.

Kekdo "kills" them the same way Usopp "killed" Gunko. They let him get a hit in before they hand his ass to him.

I mean its just a theory but it does make sense in the sense that the Gorosei said zoan DFs have a mind of their own and they're likely to try and choose their owner which means in that case Nika would reject both Shanks and Ace for Luffy

What the hell is Imu doing? It should be that whenever Luffy is spotted anywhere all 3 Admirals AND the Fleet Admiral, the Gorosei and all the God's Knights immediately drop down and if that somehow doesn't get the job done use the ancient weapon and nuke him from orbit. This is literally your destined ancient enemy, retard

scabbards

At this point in the story they're literally sub YC4 tier fighters apart from Neko and Inu, someone like Gunko woul do them the same way she did the SHs

Yamato

She just stalled

Supernovas

You are right here. Laws gamma attacks, Zoros scar and even Killers sound attacks may have actually hurt him in the long term

What the hell is Imu doing?

Gooning to Vivi.

JUST

Luffy alone isnt doing shit anyway. The whole point of this story is how he needs to befriend half the fucking planet to oust the WG, also people cant just randomly teleport to wherever Goofy is

My guess is that Imu is worried that because Luffy is the MC he will overcome the odds and get even stronger

cute orphans

Holy cute!

croc doffy and vivi all outclass smoker

how the mighty have fallen

Denjiro is chad-lite and definitely on par with the minks, then Kin is a good bit below them, then the others are so fucking shit who even cares.

which pink one?

These three unironically fit together as a trio

How long until Yamato and Ulti kiss?

Perona >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reiju

This one.

Denjiro hasnt shown that hes as strong as Neko and Inu lets be honest, especially not Neko and Inu in sulong form

This one

16

kys

Has there ever been a Shonen anime movie where someone other than the main character beats the movie villain?

Depends on how you see Gogeta and Gohan I guess.

Celestial Dragons are real losers.
They kidnap women and force them into marriage.

Can't they win women with charm and personality? They are rich.

I hope Garling and Shanks' mother's relationship wasn't a forced one.

and knew about Void Century,

WB did ? i thought roger only told him about the Ds

also kept bitching zealous newcomers like Moria, Crocodile, Ace, Hawkins, Apoo and many more.

terrifyingly accurate especially in the case of moria and crocodile.

This scene was so hilarious

fuck huge crew of 20000 people

Luffy has to run into the one retard who spills Tama's favorite food just for fun

Why would you willingly subject yourself to the humliation ritual that is dating when you can just pick whoever you want as your fucktoy?

WBs words when he dies implies that he knows about the history and I assume you cant tell anyone about the history of D without telling them the history of the Void Century also

Perona no contest

Senor Pink > Charlos

Having women throw themselves at your feet is so much more badass than having to use force.

Our sick bastard Sommers

sanji becomes judge 2.0 in his bad timeline

even when he loses he wins

The women would fight back and cry. That's not love.

be retard

spill some nasty soup

fuck this shit and everyone who eats it

suddenly there's a Yonko standing right next to you

"I'm friends with a girl who likes this soup!"

get your skull destroyed

It's hilarious no matter from whose perspective you look at it, like what are the fucking odds

Nips will probably hate him and love Gunko, their taste is so predictable

god i want to breed her

That nigga was 100% killed btw, gear 3 to the head, haki'd up too

Shamrock in top 30

I like how comically evil he is, unfortunately it comes at a price of everybody else on the island being incompetent or incapacitated

Who cares?

Think Loki will tell Luffy about Shanks' twin?

Didnt he say that Luffy needs to earn his trust first before he tells him anything?

Yes. Having women throw themselves at your feet is better. I hope we get a Holy Knight who has a harem like Doffy.

cuckiju watched sanji get beaten his whole childhood and did nothing because she didn't want to be lumped in with him

CHADona immediately went to hatchinoso when she heard moria was there

the one that isn't a war criminal and a traitor

Do you think he asked him about the truth of where he came from and being a Celestial Dragon?

Celestial Dragons are real losers.

correct. but not all of them(tm) don quixote homing seemed to have a wholesome marriage.

They kidnap women and force them into marriage.

some CD's are women and probably kidnap male slaves for rape but that aside, this isn't even the worst of their crimes.

I hope Garling and Shanks' mother's relationship wasn't a forced one.

i highly doubt that shanks is the son of a slave whore, otherwise he wouldn't be a CD right ?

You're a filthy kike son

No. Shanks doesn't care about Figarland.

I think he was asking about Laughtale and whether he'll get better from his illness.

you have a terminal case of Judaism. it's incurable

controlled opposition

lol

otherwise he wouldn't be a CD right ?

I think the "Saint" title only goes to pureblood Celestial Dragon children.

I don't think Shanks' mother is a commoner or a slave.

Shanks' mother is a princess of West Blue whom Garling met in Reverie.

what's his secret with ivankov ? he had his back to the camera when they were showing the pirates at roger's execution if that matters.

I think we should all love Sanji.

Because he hid holed up in Wano instead of challenging strong people contrary to what he yapped about. What a fraud.

shut up three eyes

Hint: Kuina, Tashigi, Yamato

I think that was just Oda using a random excuse to make the alliance make sense for the time being and hes never gonna bring it up again

he was going to marineford with king and got stopped by shanks and his entire crew midway, so that's inaccurate he does occasionally do shit

Yes, he was going to attack Whitebeard from behind while he was fighting Navy and Shichibukai. How brave! Fraud.

I feel like if there was ever going to be an expose on him it should've been as a cameo in Kuma's flashback when they encountered Iva as kids

hes never gonna bring it up again

Oh man, that'd be a disappointment,

Hes never beating the controlled opposition allegations. Waiting right when they were about to fight the Navy to trounce on him is some glowie shit

Kuina, Tashigi,

I'm 70% sure he predates them so he can't be kuina or related, he's like 40 pre timeskip

Yamato

that seems to be the most obvious and most boring conclusion, he was a woman and then begged ivankov to turn him into a man for *some reason*. this would be somwhat stupid desu.

p.s he's 44 pre timeskip

attack Whitebeard

nah he and whitebeard used to be bros on rock's ship, shanks stopped them because he's a roger fag

Sommers is a good man. You hate him for behaving the way a soldier should against his foes. Giants have never played fair, so the Holy Knights have no reason to play fair either.

They'll continue using Charloss over Sommers as the fat NTR man in porn too

turn him into a man for *some reason*

Men are just better than women. So much better.

It's not so much that Oda necessary wanted to hide it as much he wanted you to keep guessing. Notice how during the same chapter, Shanks covers his face with the strawhat. Why? So you don't know if he already had his face scar at that point or not. Similarly in that same day flashback when Shanks meets Whitebeard, you see young Shanks from an angle that wouldn't show the scar. But more than a decade later we got a fuller flashback to that point, and the answer was that he didn't have the scar after all. It was all a red herring alternatively Oda still haven't figured out when he wanted to put Shanks vs. Teach duel in the timeline at that point.

I don't think it's going to be that cool and dark. I think it's going to be something a few weirdos like me and Oda would enjoy and it's going to piss everyone else off. It's going to be that the war with Joyboy started over such an absurd low level petty reason, and Roger is laughing because all that death and destruction started over that. Like someone stealing somebody else's food or favorite toy level dumb.

Why wouldnt they? Charlos is the fat ntr man while Sommers is just the old man fighter type guy

Of the 3 currently in Elbaf, Unko is the only one with a shot at top50. But Shamrock will probably have her beat. Top20-30.

What if Kaido is among those who know how to beat Gorosei regen? It would make a lot of sense.

know how to

Anon what the fuck are you expecting? It's just going to be some variant of punch harder or haki harder. Probably some super DUPER secret level 2 for imbued conqueror haki.

Oda forgor
He needed a reason to make Luffy's old enemy fight on his side and pulled one out of his ass, but then never revisited it

Nah. It's not a cynical or empty laugh. Roger and co. are both happily and wholeheartedly laughing. Perhaps it's something connected to his and Luffy's dream. Remember that the story Roger and co. heard isn't sad and depressing. It's optimistic and full of hope with the Joy Boy prophecy and shite.

Most likely he made out with fem-Ivankov and then realized Ivankov is a genderbender.

Men are just better than women.

yeah but that was never a part of his character, he never seemed to detest women or respect men for it to make sense for him to be a woman turned man due to her loathing her gender, if anything croc seems to loath weakness and crave power

It's not so much that Oda necessary wanted to hide it as much he wanted you to keep guessing.

yeah but in the case of "shanks" meeting with the elders it turned out that his face was hidden for a reason which is why a brought it up. the only 2 relevant things i can think of in regards to his face are the scar(probably caused by WB) and the theory that he was a woman

I always liked him so no problem

Oda forgor

He needed a reason to make Luffy's old enemy fight on his side and pulled one out of his ass

i highly doubt that considering how the scene played out.

but then never revisited it

i don't think we ever had the chance for him to reveal it yet, croc ivan & SH haven't met again after marineford

The scar is good enough of a reason, I think. We assume it's Whitebeard, but again, Oda might just want to keep you guessing.

Its always been this, people just made 50k headcanons from it. I think Oda hasnt everything planned like people like to assume, but hes such a fucking genius for throwing random subplots and throwaway lines and then tying to them later which makes it feel so inter connected

i hate how everyone in the strawhats crew gets stripped of their personality as the story goes on and is made to be overly comparative and wholesome all the time. jinpe was cooler when he had a bit of an edge

I am stronger than Kaido.

Roger pirates are psychopaths

fair enough

wholesome

Nami literally just called him a fishnigger 2 chapters ago and Zoro told Luffy that hes a faggot for caring about Vegapunk dying. Read slower blud

Wano was a mistake . Never seen oda drop the ball on so much within one arc

All the Admirals and Holy Knights...

I really hope Oda keeps his old notebooks, and after all is said and done, someone will sit with him to read through it and publish a "making-of" book detailing how some ideas came to be. Oda will often admit to coming up with something last-minute, so it's not like his pride would prevent him. Obviously not everything would be covered, but how some major plotlines shaped over time, and maybe how Oda's approach evolved.

That would be cool. I just think that Oda has good intuition as a writer and is good at connecting things which is so much better than the retarded shit of people believing he unironically planned everything 20 years ago

In case you don't know what Uranus is.

50k headcanons from it.

yeah but you have memes like

crocodile is luffy's mother actually

doesn't help that it was the longest arc to date

Yeah, but some people were planned all the way back, and it'd be interesting to see how it came to be. Example, Oda apparently always planned Kuma to split the strawhats and for pacifista to be a thing even before his introduction. But Bonney was a last minute decision. Was there always going to be a "Kuma's daughter" character, and Oda just figured he'll make them one and the same? Or was Kuma's reason for working with the WG was going to be different? Or Nika. Nika's such a weird thing since all the major characters and concepts are usually introduced years before becoming relevant. Joy Boy was name-dropped 10 years before Nika was, for example. When was Nika decided to be a thing?

I'm not saying it's going to be inventive or clever, but even if it's just boring HAKI TWO, that's still something Kaido could've known that Luffy doesn't. Luffy didn't know the invisible attack to go through armor until that arc either. Scopper Gyabban is weaker than Luffy but he seems to be able to permanently damage Sommers. It would make sense if Kaido is still top dog if he knows how to do that too.

Name the strongest character that Bonney can defeat

Scopper Gyabban is weaker than Luffy

Source?

But Bonney was a last minute decision

i call bullshit we saw foreshadowing all the way back in marineford

Logic?

Nah, introducing Bonney was a last minute decision. Back in Sabaody. All the 9 supernovas were created from scratch. But Kuma's plotline was already ongoing.

Denjiro is strong as fuck anon he was one if not the strongest of the scabbards. Sulong gives neko and inu a leg up over him though yeah but thats a one night a month occurance.

I just finished having sex with Hancock.

Greenbull

Nah, introducing Bonney was a last minute decision. Back in Sabaody.

so why is she crying when she saw all the pacifistas ? there's no way it's a coincidence

All the 9 supernovas were created from scratch.

i hear that all the time and i need a source, i get it in the cases of hawkins drake apuu and arouge but bonny and to a lesser degree law have more plot importance which makes me hesitate to believe that

Anon...Greenbull is an Admiral. Bonney is far too weak to defeat him.

Roofy…

Would state that Luffy is still weaker than Gaban.

robin...

Tbf Batman was a beast

Charlos...

I will be happily married to Luffy in the epilogue.

We know, nobody.

so why is she crying when she saw all the pacifistas ? there's no way it's a coincidence

It was more than a year later (in real life), of course Oda had time for some more planning.

i hear that all the time and i need a source, i get it in the cases of hawkins drake apuu and arouge but bonny and to a lesser degree law have more plot importance which makes me hesitate to believe that

You can have Dressrosa without Law. Just have the SHs stumble onto the island troubles like usual. The conflict with Kaido is picked up anyway through samurai. Law might be the most prominent non-strawhat in the story, but he's actually quite a superficial character.

Original.

Yamato, Ulti, Vivi, Shirahoshi, Rebecca, Robin, Nami, Hancock, Carrot, Gerd, Aisa, Katakuri, Brulee, Law, Koby, Gunko, Imu, Bonney, Ahiru, Atlas...

I will NOT be marrying Luffy by the epilogue!

You don't have a choice Ulti. He grabbed your horns, that's marriage in your culture.

Out of 10!

Vivi

she's disqualified because she has a huge pulsating D.
also incest bad

Kill yourself Futafag

We love incest here.

Wouldn't it be absurd for Gaban to be that much stronger than Rayleigh?

Not going to argue comparison to Luffy, but why would it? Gaban appears to be more active than Rayleigh.

Maybe this blonde guy is Bonney's father?

so why is she crying when she saw all the pacifistas ? there's no way it's a coincidence

That's Oda being smart. He gives characters random weird quirks and traits that other authors wouldn't put in because they are random and don't immediately advance the plot. Oda then uses these traits to advance the plot much later.

Luffy didn't know the invisible attack to go through armor until that arc either.

Been a while since I’ve read Kaido vs Luffy but did Kaido also used this technique of destroying something from the inside with haki? Because if he did I have no idea how Luffy would survive that.

We know, Hancock.

It was more than a year later (in real life), of course Oda had time for some more planning.

so you're arguing that "NOOOOO oda didn't plan for bonny at the start of the manga.......he planned for everything at marineford!!" ? at that point you're just arguing semantics anon. marineford dropped around 2010 which is 15 years ago, it's still impressive that he was foreshadowing kuma&bonny's backstory all the way back then. if your point is that he's not an all knowing being then i can concede to that as long as it doesn't reach the other extreme of downplaying a 15 year story being foreshadowed for the sake of pretending(nonsensically) that everything happened haphazardly on the fly

You can have Dressrosa without Law.

it would lose alot of it's impact considering how integral he was with Corazon's backstory, but i get what you mean.

Bonney can beat a bunch of elite vice admirals easily. This is the starting point to find stronger opponent.

Her power can wither life in large area, countering Greenbull main power. That's her defense.

Her finishing move, Nika punch, able to damage Kizaru, a stronger admiral.

There you go.

The post that broke the scatpedo

Bonney is not even Franky level, anon, yet you are suggesting she can fight against an Admiral?! Also her being able to hurt Kizaru is complete headcanon.

No, Gaban seems to have stayed in much better shape than Rayleigh.

It's effectively just punching harder when you hit someone (you can headcanon they block it with they haki and it lessens the damage or something if you need things to make sense). The internal destruction thing only comes into play when an object needs to be destroyed.

hating futanari and loving incest

you all deserve the flood.

...in my fanfic

Why wouldn't he be using advanced armament?

that's a stretch with all due respect

Sugartard

In charge of not having shit taste

Kill yourself Futafag

why are you so angry ?

Do you need to make everything a console war? Are you incapable of normal discussion? The point isn't arguing what is impressive or not, but just pointing out facts: Bonney was created after Kuma's story was in a full swing already according to the author himself. Now what I'm wondering about is what the plan for Kuma was without her.

I don't think you realise the sheer dofference in power between a Vice-Admiral and an Admiral.

I think it would be funny if in the final arc Luffy suddenly develops an intense schoolyard crush on some plain jane grunt or village girl. He acts all flustered and self conscious whenever she’s nearby and the SHs meanwhile are having their minds blown

I would love that.

She needs to be fat, a little ugly but knows how to cook and loves food.

You know what anon...? I'm unironically okay with that if Oda chooses to do it.

Do you need to make everything a console war? Are you incapable of normal discussion?

calm down buddy pointing out how you were arguing semantics isn't an insult to your lineage.

Oda will never reveal her father. It's a random fodder Celestial Dragon.

Bonney has been an NPC since Elbaf. She's not that important. She won't be in the final battle.

Also her being able to hurt Kizaru is complete headcanon.

A nika can down Kizaru once, surely another nika can do the same lmao

keeps console war tone

Read the discussion again. It's not semantics, it's the fact Bonney was created after Kuma even though Kuma's plotline was planned for a while.

Kizaru is an admiral level fighter. Bonney is barely Tobiroppo level and you're suggesting she can hurt let alone beat someone of Kizaru's caliber? Ridiculous.

Don't forget, the D laugh in the face of death. It could actually be even worse than we think it is, and be so absolutely and utterly hopeless there is nothing left to do than entrust the next generation to their deaths.

PreTS
vs
NuPiece

summed up

Where did it all go wrong?

Zoro’s final opponent should be a female swordsman. Someone who is second only to Mihawk.
How would Zoro handle that fight? Would his honor prevent him from beating her?

Imagine if it was Saint Kuina of House Ethanbaron, God's Knight.

blaming Oda for Toei’s creative bankruptcy

moron

Is that who I think it is?

He’s gonna be like

Im sorry

What?

Im sorry you were born a woman

Excuse me? Im proud to be a woma-

So frail and weak. Yet you pick up a sword and face me, a man. Admirable, really

What the fuck are you on about? I’m literally admiral tier

Reality is unfair, I know. If only, there were only men in this world…

Oh so you’re insane
and gay

So we can all agree that Elbaf will be a second tineskip right? The warning we got at the beginning of the arc probably means that time flows differently on Elbaf somehow, which means the Straw Hats can spend some time there without too much happening in the outside world. Scopper is going to teach Luffy about this new form of haki, while the rest of the crew also get power ups before the final war

It's about compatibility, not about who's stronger. A scissor Bonney beat paper Greenbull.

It makes 0 sense to have ANOTHER timeskip this late into the series, so no.
Also how can the time flow be different in Elbaph considering Scopper has aged just fine and Shanks visits there frequently? That theory has no basis.

Is that who I think it is?

Cereal Experiments Lain?

He thinks Oda will waste time on training shitter strawhats

He never did and never will have them train.
Only monster trio will get buffs.

Luffy has gotten three level of haki upgrades in two weeks in-universe (haki-emission, internal destruction, CoC-infusion). He learned Future Sight over a few hours long fight. He'll figure out a counter to regeneration by the end of the current day most likely.

literal fucking tacopaco in the thread

NTA but the other Strawhats will definitely get buffs too. Otherwise, how can they fight against their Blackbeard pirates match-ups?

tacos are asleep, retard.
I’m from a country that did some very naughty things 80 years ago.

Same way they always did.
Many times straw hats were matched up against stronger opponents and came out on top through grit and determination.

that time flows differently on Elbaf somehow, which means the Straw Hats can spend some time there without too much happening in the outside world

Warning about the opposite would make more sense
Luffy will leave after a few days to find months have passed

Bonney was always planned, she being part of the supernovas was the last minute decision.

IMAGINE
Straw hats leave Elbaf and the grand line is in the middle of the final war already.
That would speed up the ending of One Piece.

why is the only good Kaido porn of him fucking his daughter

That doesn't make sesne either. People in and out of Elbaf age at the same rate.

Zoro’s final opponent should be a female swordsman. Someone who is second only to Mihawk.

I'm honestly waiting for kuina to comeback only so i can laugh at how out of left field their interactions will be, kuina tashigi and zoro(+mihawk for different reasons) whole plotline is unfortunate

makes sense

I think he means time in Elbaf goes slower. Meaning 5 minutes in there is 5 hours on the grand line.

The better question is why isn’t there MORE porn of him fucking his daughter

But his crew does have a bunch of normal Zoan users too

he looks so cute.

I hope Rocks killed some Holy Bums and Celestial Kike in God Valley..

Exactly. And that makes no sense since people age the same regardless of whether they're in Elbaf or not. Such theory would only make sense for an actualy honest-to-god isolated island with no interactions with the outside world. Not a place people frequently go in and out of.

It's nothing but lies, insidious lies. The logistics alone...

Yes Bonney can beat kaido, I agree.

Roger jumped in front of a CD and took Rocks’s sword to the gut.

Remember Roger! If any CD’s get hurt, you and your crew aren’t getting paid!

Pouring bleach in a bowl of cereal

Why'd she do it?

Seriously. Oda has this warped perception of what the nobility, or leaders in general, are like.

Vladimir Putin does not go out of his way to take some nobody off the street and pluck his eyes out. Why? Because he has 10 better things to do. Same as it is with the Celestial Dragons. The majority of them stay in Mariejois, doing whatever they do there.

his zoan army was filled with failed abominations.

Anon those are the ones who succeeded, the Pleasure group are the ones who failed

Garling fic can't come soon enough, to put an end to the lies.

Anon...Kaido doesn't see his precious daughter that way!

What if Gaban uses Sea Stone axes and that's what causes the regeneration to slow down.

...in my fanfic

Well you have to understand that Oda is Japanese, and there was a time period where the samurai class could cut down people on the street. Granted they needed a reason but that reason could be trivial stuff like "they walked on the same street as I"

The majority of them stay in Mariejois, doing whatever they do there

Yes they only live for pleasure, they don't work or have any responsibility.

STOP, if you continue to hate your enemies then the hatred will continue
Donquiotes aren't that bad anyway, sing my petition

who the fuck would play as tama in a videogame?

Me

1:60

that would make it so every year on elbaf is 60 years outside

Maaaybe
But it’s still shitty. Imu’s regeneration can be stopped by something so simple.
On the other hand sea stone would come back to the story and make Luffy have to rely on others to beat Imu’s soldiers.

But Im thinking it’s gonna be something Luffy can learn because its a basic shonen thing.

Oh, no, heaven forbid the warrior class actually use their weapons instead of being pacifists their entire lives. More lies. Same way "enlightenened" people like to talk badly about knighthood, the same it is with bushido.

The putrid peacetime of the west has made people forget the necessity of a martial culture.

I'm sure they have responsibilities. Just because they aren't scrabbling in the dirt all day doesn't mean they don't do anything. Another one of Oda's misconceptions about the nobility.

don quixote homing and Rosinante didn't deserve this

>reddit spacing

I make the spaces, so no one finds it hard to read.

heaven forbid the warrior class actually use their weapons instead of being pacifists their entire lives

Yes heavens forbid that the warrior class cut down anyone they like at anytime, otherwise you're less of a warrior class and more a murder class.

Maybe Gaban just aged terribly because he had to look after an infant bigger than him
He's as spry as a 50 year old

Seriously. Oda has this warped perception of what the nobility, or leaders in general, are like.

nah you're wrong, just read up on your history and see all the heinous shit kings and nobles did.

bbbb....but we're in a different time now!!

epstien's Island is the most recent example of this

Without a martial culture, you become resources waiting, dare I say, BEGGING, to be taken.

Warriors, by and large, don't do that. Not without provocation.

What the hell are these plebs complaining about? Don't they understand the privledge it is to be used for entertainment of the Celestial Dragons?

a celestial dragon that can dress itself

I thought they let their slaves/maids dress them. Charlos will definitely be dressed in clothes by the maids.

what the fuck does Jeffrey Epstein have to do with this.

I will be a monarchist until I die. Without your king, you become a headless chicken, shambling aimlessly everywhere and nowhere.

And who guides the king?

you're less of a warrior class and more a murder class.

now we only need a healer and a mage and we'll have 4 niggas in a row

Oh, grow up. It's a privileges to have servants. One that anyone would take.

THEY ARE LYING.

Yes you're right now lets kill some farmers because their harvest was low, some craftsmen because my sword isn't perfect and 10 random people on the street for looking at my funny.

I want to fuck Ulti so badly…

Dressing themselves is the first test in becoming a Gods Knight
Gunko barely passed as she didn't manage to figure out pants

God. The king is guided by God., or in this day and age, the voice of God on earth.

Where would you take her on a first date?

what the fuck does Jeffrey Epstein have to do with this.

most of tge people who went there were rich and powerful so basically CDs

I will be a monarchist until I die. Without your king, you become a headless chicken, shambling aimlessly everywhere and nowhere.

I'm a monarchist but my king is kobra D nefratari, not everyone is that lucky

And who guides God?

No one. God is omnipotent.

Will we get a flashback about Sommers' failed attempts at teaching her?

nta
we'd play tekken and drink tea

most of tge people who went there were rich and powerful so basically CDs

I could not care less what they do with their whores. It's no concern of mine.

So it's all abritrary?

I am not here for the leftist character debate that you all love to have. It means nothing. You do your job, and rule, and you can do whatever you want. It's a simple exchange really, one that has worked for millennia.

I'm sure they have responsibilities.

The CDs or the samurai?

Who will kill Imu as punishment if they fail to recruit the giants and the giants join Luffy?

No. It's about service. Everyone in your nation serves God. After that, there is a pyramid of society, and how every part of it relates to the other.

Who will kill Imu as punishment

Akainu, I guess.

Who will kill Imu

The Dragons.

The real mastermind behind it all.

But why!!??

You didn't in any way respond to what I was saying.

who guides God

no one

so God's decisions are arbitrary

Please carry on from this point by responding properly instead of reiterating your previous statements.

So Shamrock wanted Killingham for the mission but they sent Sommers because Shamrock should return to Mary Geoise?

Has Oda ever even alluded to some responsibility they have?

What do you think Sommers servants are doing after he and his furniture suddenly vanished?

Shamrock zoan devilfruit will be an archangel.

Probably not. It interferes with his propaganda.

Sommers was sent because he was to replace as the leader of the operation in Elbaph. However, he seems to be a weaker fighter than Gunko which leads me to believe that Sommers is more of a negotiator/co-coordinator rather than a fighter.

They're glad he's gone. They're cleaning the mansion.

I could not care less what they do with their whores

the problem arises when you become their whores anon. it's a simple concept, also

being fine with childrape

and they say Anon Babble is toothless

They build roads, everyone loves roads

Warming his bed.

What makes you so sure that he even has a devil fruit, let alone a mythical zoan?

Perona redemption
Baby5 redemption
Ulti redemption
Gunko redemption

It doesn't happen to me. You don't stick your neck out, you don't step on anyone's toes, and no one will waste their time on you.

Why not? Military coup, baby.

responsibility

CDs

anon.....the whole point is that they can kick back and relax because they're decadents from the 20 kings, only the ones like cobra who went back to rule have any responsibilities minus all the cool hot sex slaves

None of them did anything wrong, except for maybe Gunko

Oh, yeah I forgot about the bridges. Don't see roaches like Kaido building bridges across multiple islands.

Rocks jobbed to a young Goyger and Goyrp who had yet to reach their prime, there's no way he would succeed in killing any CDs.

The sea trains were also technically funded with Government money, although I'm pretty sure the Celestial Dragons had nothing to do with it

Sorry, I misread the entire thing and thought you were saying Imu was going to kill Sakazuki if the Knights failed at getting the giants.

Because the Yonko were a bunch of useful hasbeens that kept stomping new pirates and were content with ruling their backwater shitholes
Basically controlled opposition
The moment Kaido would try to actually conquer Mariejois he'd get rekt and go back to being experimented on

Anon forgot about Epstein island I see.

What makes you think so? Both are regen merchants. You may say that Gunko won against multiple opponents, but her fruit can make your teammates a liability as shown when she redirected Jinbe's and Franky's attacks at each other. She might have had a harder time against them in 1on1 as unituitive as it sounds.

Yes, it's just anon said he was sure they have responsibilities and I imagined he remembered something I didn't.

Shut it jew.

I'll tell you what my father told me. The character debate is worthless. The moment you rule anything, the only thing that matters about you is your policy.

I won't lose sleep over some nonsense with whores.

Calling them regen merchants is as silly as calling Admirals logia merchants lol. We have yet to see a serious fight from any of them but yes it does seem like Gunko's attacks are useful in a group fight. However, since she also re-directed Nami's earlier attack, its possible her fighting style against single opponents revolves around deflecting their attacks and counter-attacking. We will need to wait and see how she performs against individual opponents but lets not discount her existing combat prowess (also she still managed to capture them all albeit it was off-screen).

Irrelevant.

This, I'm sure base Roswald would have killed him.

Nah, what would have happened had Roger and Garp not intervened is him being taken out by the Holy Knights.

I mean he probably look up droit du seigneur.

yeah, the myth.

This. That would be gigabased.