Gappy still doesn't know how to walk like a normal person
Jojo afterparty
My wife Sugar Mountain
tsurugi best girl
I miss Damo
JoJolion gets worse after Vitamin C!!!
Milagro Man was kino
JoJolion gets worse after Milagro Man-
Blue Hawaii is kino
JoJolion gets worse after-
Every time
Almost like he wasn't human
But some kind of a different creature
A rock, maybe
...
No, that would be to bizarre
He's the "Jojolion".
maybe its the balls
Blue Hawaii was kino
mfw it actually does make sense why he walks/runs like this making such big gaps
it must be fucking uncomfortable to sit too
"The Jojo lion rapes the rock dog when it barks"
Drawings for the storytime
Why does every Jojo seem to get progressively more psychotic?
I think this is the most normal-looking child Araki has ever drawn.
Araki decided dark and gritty is le good. He pleb filtered himself.
Unironically a SBRverse problem
If it was to stick to morally pure kind buff hamon users it would have ended at part 1 none of those things could have carried JoJo for as long as it has.
no joshu
arc is terrible
See?
Araki hates nice guys.
no kyou
arc is terrible
So?
Kei is for thighjobs only
hatmaid is for hatjobs only
no Tsurugi
arc is terrible
no koichi
part is terrible
Do you see?
Chapter 102 will mindbreak these threads more than that VA chapter.
Shout out to the based Anon who started this
Edit code: arakiforgot
rentry.co
yasuho present
arc is terrible
see?
Because of Tooru's grooming or the Paisley Park retcon or Joshu chimping out?
BUCCIARATI! Give me that JOJOLANDS chapter right now! I DESERVE IT! I am the CHOSEN BOSS, you need to understand!!!
Yes
Whenever I find myself in a conundrum I think to myself "Who is worthy? Bucciarati or Diavolo?" And then I know what to do...
Draw Daiya's titties
Do you think the 7 page muda will ever be surpassed?
*yank jolyne from the knives with one hand*
*star finger pucci through his brain stem with the other at the same time*
I'VE WON! THAT'S IT FOR PART 6!
"You will never reach the JOJOLANDS chapter!"
*infinite Rohans you*
Jodio doesn't have a punchghost
Maybe in part 10?
Jodio will do a 9 page muda with his bare hands.
Babby Diego looked pretty normal
Every page for entire volumes will be a stand rush attack
What are rain drops but many small, wet fists?
No.
I also like it in the anime so no
Paisley Park after absorbing a gallon of Tsurugi cum
Next part we're gonna go so deep into the dark side that we'll come out on the other side with a Jonathan tier Jojo.
It helps that he didn't draw him muscular like Emporio.
this is the first volume ever where i just scrolled past the panels without caring and just read the posts. i refuse to reread this arc
I want Jousuke, Joshu, Yasuho, Tsurugi and Karera to return in part 9 and I want rock humans to be relevant again and I want to focus on going to PNG so they can get rokakakas to save Holly
Can't read an arc without his waifu in it
lol
Many are wishing they TRACED this
But Paisley Park is here
got drunk and forgot about todays storytime
its fucking over
If Josuke comes back in part 9 he should become a full mentally ill schizo who sees Kira, Josefumi and Jobin the jobber as ghosts/shadow people that constantly surround him
Also Joshu should come back
Star finger being a stand ability never made any fucking sense
But you don't want to take your medication. Why is that?
got drunk and forgot about one of the worst volumes
Here's a pretty good gay fan fic of Kira and Josefumi for any fujofags still reading along
archiveofourown.org
The storytime proved it
My wife was there as a emoji but I still don't want to re-read it.
Here's a pretty good Hazbin Hotel crossover fanfic starring Part 4 Kira in Hell.
archiveofourown.org
I FUCKING LOVE CIVILIAN CASUALTIES
Josefumi is a fucking monster in CQC, he might be the best in the SBR verse.
What will Jodio's stand cry be? He will obviously have one, the main jojo had to have one. HARD MODE: don't say ORA or MUDA
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Sure, but similar things have already fueled inspiration for plenty of other stories.
Josuke4 is the only Joestar with a unique Stand cry. Jodio already screamed Ora in the first chapter.
Milagro Man was kino
Blue Hawaii is kino
How would Raoh do in part 7 assuming he runs the race?
2 days until Trout Mask Replica and the start of Poor Tom right?
he solos the whole jojoverse btw
Wow that's true. Every Jojo since Jolyne has been tracing Jotaro.
I still think Doobie Wah was worse, but todays volume came pretty close to it
he runs so fast that he stays ahead the entire race and never fights anyone
it's 2 days until salmon gloves original and the end of rich tim, actually
Technically Kenshiro is in part 6 and beat him so that's not true
I refuse to believe anyone unironically likes Blue Hawaii
which prasley park retcon?
"Joudiou"...
Are you listening? I can only... say this once.
It's about your "raindrops". They're "fists". Tiny "fists".
Your "raindrops" are made up of "fists" that "spin".
A "spin" that cannot be "seen" and a "fist" that "doesn't exist" in this "world".
Yasuho having it as a child, rather than awakening it at the start of the part at the wall eyes.
Trout Mask Replica meme is almost believable aside from the namesake, Araki wouldn't listen to that album lol
I don't think it's believable because Jojolion is way too fucked up for me to see Araki having any restraint at all.
My headcanon is Jousuke has no nipples and the dead body took them.
There are certainly divergent plotlines though, no? Whenever I reread Jojolion I'm always imagining "oh what if he leaned into the Tsurugi thing more, and his stand evolved" flashback man is the most obvious example of this but you can physically feel when Tooru entered his twisted mind, I think the Hair Clip chapter. In jest everyone always says Araki is just writing shit as he goes along but I always felt like he plotted out different branches, then wrote each chapter open enough so he could go down one if he so pleases-- which is why we get things like the Kei/Kira living with Norisuke thread, Kaato, etc
I think Araki has an open enough mind to listen to it. But there is no way he would enjoy it, let alone enough to name a stand after it.
A lot of stands capture the feeling of their musical reference, so a rape stand being named after such an unpleasant-sounding album makes sense on paper, but Araki has had a lot of unpleasant stands before and named them after music that actually sounds good.
Speed reading the last volumes I'm really remembering just how unbeatable Over powered WoU is, how the fuck do you actually beat it or Tooru in anyway?
how the fuck do you actually beat it or Tooru in anyway?
This is the biggest problem with the final arc lol there should've been some catch OR let Toru manually deactivate it, and he does that near the end to save Yasuho or something.
Yeah, every other Main Villain stand was at least beatable in some way except ZA WARUDO but that kinda made sense since it was buffed by Vampire Powers.
But with WOU only an asspull or some divine stand could actually beat it.
he should have died accidentally
Go back in time a lay a mine on where he's going to step. There's no evidence for WoU scaling above time
Yeah, WoU doesn't really have any weakness other than an asspull designed specifically to counter it. Look at the other main villain stands:
The World only lets Dio stop time for a few seconds.
Bites the Dust doesn't give Kira knowledge of the time loops and he has to relinquish his stand while it's active.
King Crimson doesn't let Diavolo change the fate of others in the erased time, so he has to attack right as the time skip ends.
Made in Heaven doesn't give Pucci increased stats other than speed, so he still has to worry about running out of stamina when swimming or breathing in poisonous gas faster.
Love Train is dependent on Lucy, and Valentine has to be near her and control the light wall with D4C.
WoU doesn't have any weakness like that. If you pursue Tooru, with or without his knowledge, from any range, you get hit by a calamity.
Even other stands that are defeated by asspulls, there's still non-asspull counterplay that gives the fight a back and forth before the asspull ultimately resolves it.
Araki made sure they couldn't be possibly attacked with no plot armor or bullshit ability. The only legit way for them to get hurt/killed is through an accident or collateral damage.
collateral damage
Joshu should have gotten the kill trying to fuck up Josuke and tries to play it off like he meant to kill Tooru but gets called out and gets kicked in the nuts
The one thing Araki tried to setup, and it does still exist as a weakness sorta, is "order of pursuit" but it's so poorly maintained and elaborated on it never feels like it has any significant impact on the battle. He could've done something with that and it felt like was TRYING to with the plane wing falling off or whatever but then Kaato can just attack Toru inexplicably... because... it... wasn't pursuit? Even though completely innocent people, like nurses from the hospital, were hit with calamity with zero intent to harm
jojolion only has 6 good arcs and they are all pre vitamin c. Everything after ranges from okay to bad.
Valentine with Love Train vs Tooru with WoU Who's winning?
this thread as a first-time reader
Would Jojolion be better if all the characters were genderbent?
Paper Moon rapekino >>>>>>>>>>>> Blue Hawaii.
People did not like Born This Way that much.
wokewokeDEIon before gta 6....
Yeah the whole order thing didn't make sense to me since apparently it would change to put the most recent pursuer first so it doesn't even matter what order it's in because you'll just get moved to the front of the line.
I did and that's my tierlist so...
WoU because its #1 priority is protecting the user, Valentine even activating Love Train could be perceived as pursuit & his ability only works when you attack, not when you think about attacking.
While I think Love Train damn near hard-counters, I still give it to WoU because of Araki's statement.
Wonder of U weakness is it doesnt do anything if you just leave it alone and walk away
Reminds me of that pepe frog meme, have problem, dont care, have no problem.
except when it started showing up at the higashikata estate stalking mitsuba for no reason so she cut her fingers and shit DEBUNKED
The inferior Daiya
She only cut her fingers after thinking about PURSUING. If she had just ignored it, she would have been fine.
That was personal, his rigga wu needed to be avenged.
What if he teleports himself into the direction you're walking?
black man in trenchcoat teleports 10 feet in front of you
not allowed THINK about it
Is it THAT hard to put the spoiler tag?
I mean honestly, I wanna know what causes this mental deficiency in people in these threads
Valentine's one con with Love Train is that he needs to step out of the light to land attacks, which could leave him susceptible to calamity. The second he moves out of the light, there's a very high chance he gets jobbed by some rock or something kek.
skill issue
They don't know you just use CTRL S.
this is a spoiler thread now it's too fucked
That gun wasn't around during those times btw. Love Train straight up redirects misfortune into the future.
But if he dies outside of the light, cant he just use regular d4c to bring another valentine to the world?
Would Josuke and Jousuke be friends?
There is literally nothing stopping Toru or Wonder of U from attacking of provoking their target. The only reason they never (or rarely) do it is because the plot needs to happen.
Indeed (assuming the calamity that strikes him doesn't kill him instantly), and then it turns into an eternal stalemate with Tooru having the slight edge, which is how I think the fight goes down.
Woke Garbage.
Gappy is too autistic and would clash with Josuke's overbearing personality lol
gooner kino
If funny valentine wore a hat, wouldnt he always be able to self ressurect since he is inbetween two sides of an object
hatmaid is the president theory...
Perhaps.
Valentine tries to attack WoU, calamity triggers onto valentine, love train redirects the calamity.
If valentine kept chasing tooru, couldnt he redirect every single calamity towards other humans until he and tooru are the last two beings in the galaxy?
JoJo heroes weren’t allowed to kill until Araki switched to monthly
Also, Araki made the Rock Humans because he wanted to have his MC be ruthless and kill without painting him as immoral. Even when JoJo gets darker and edgier, Araki still believes in heroism and justice
With Johnny, him being ruthless was understandable because of the wild west setting but in a modern setting the only way to justify so much killing was by making the enemies inhuman beings. That's also why he insists they don't have feelings. Giorno is another weird case, but Giorno is a criminal who fights other criminals and Araki still tried to insist that Giorno is noble
Requesting a picture of jotaro valentine, which is funny valentine wearing jotaros stupid cap.
It's inconsistent. He can use his coat if he takes it off but if he wears it, it doesn't count as flattening him, even if he's lying down on the ground between the coat and the ground.
I was going to say I think the object needs to be big enough, but Valentine used D4C with a jug of water, so...
The main villain of jojolion is a rock human named Tooru. Tooru is Yasuho's ex boyfriend, who has been grooming her for her entire life. Tooru works at the hospital due his stand's cover identity (yes, his stand has a cover identity), which is an elderly doctor that Yasuho located for him several years before Jojolion started. Tooru is also the person responsible for Holy's condition and is mastermind behind all of the Rokakaka shenanigans.
Tooru's stand, Wonder of U, is an infinite range automatic stand whose ability is to cause anyone who "pursues" Tooru or WoU, whether that be a literal pursuit or merely the intent to pursue, to experience a "calamity," which usually involves some random object knocking into them. WoU is also capable of projecting multiple copies of itself around Morioh, walking through walls (while bringing other things with it, such as other living creatures), and can change it's appearance to that of an old man that is visible to non-stsnd users.
Tooru is defeated when Josuke stops pursuing him and forced Tooru to do the pursing by mailing Tooru a piece of the Rokakaka fruit. He then unlocks a new ability- Soft and Wet: Go Beyond - where his bubbles become imaginary objects that do not truly ecist in this world, but are capable of dealing devastating damage in a manner similar to a miniature version of Cream. He can do this because his bubbles are actually infinitely thin strings rotating at high speed. Josuke uses this power in manner not meaningfully different to how one would use a firearm. It is also revealed that Yasuho can use her stand to teleport the Go Beyond bullets between her and Josuke's cell phones, allowing them to catch Tooru off guard and deal a fatal blow.
Before Tooru finishes bleeding out, Kaato shows up, beats the shit out of him, and uses the Rokakaka to transfer Tsurugi's curse to him. Kaato then dies due to calamity. After Tooru's death it is revealed that WoU is still somehow alive, and Josuke kills it with Go Beyond.
reviving this old fake copypasta
You might catch a few newfriends but c'mon
jotaro and jolyne made sense, given their lineage. johnny did it as a tribute to gyro which is weird, but whatever. josuk8 and jodio make no sense though, im still seething that josuke doesnt say dorarararara
A single bead of sweat on your forehead, and a single strand of hair on your backside of the hair is enough to be considered inbetween two objects.
D4C was based when it was about allowing multiple neighboring realities exisiting at the same time+place, but cringe when you realize how stupid the inbetween two objects rule is
in jojos clothes aren't real, they never count. clothes are always integrated into someones body with a stand ability (Scary Monsters, Earth Wind & Fire, Stone Free, Catch the Rainbow) they just aren't and you're not allowed question it. hats don't count
jojos
Wonder of U isnt infinite range. I can think about WoU and no calamity has affected me so far. Infinite range stands can cross different universes.
jotaro
i meant giorno. i need some sleep man
clothes aren't real,
BUH BUH BUH BASED FELLOW YOTSUFAG
Love Train is superior in terms of sheer power because it's literally empowered by Jesus, but WoU is superior in terms of usability.
It's a stalemate, but slightly in Tooru's favor because Valentine would be punished for stepping outside of the light wall's protection, while Tooru can attempt to attack Valentine for free (since he won't care about random civilians getting hurt).
why are there no 1488 toru edits he's basically rock hitler
So Araki is finally coming out, huh?
Araki still doesn't know how normal people walk
That's not true. WoU has its arm blades and a pocketful of rock insects.
If it was 100% passive and Tooru could only attack by trying to trick them into pursuing, that might have been more interesting and been an actual weakness.
colored
Why the fuck are you reading the colored version that looks like the Problem Solverz?
Current rankings (only Parts and Jojos I have read as manga)
Jolyne > Johnny > Josuk8 > Giorno
Bruno > Ermes > Gyro > literally who is the main JJL ally?
Damo > Proscuitto > Westwood > Soundman
P6 > P7 > P8 > P5
I wonder if it feels twice as good when he nuts? Part 8 should've ended with AU Jolyne's conception.
Yasuho thought Joshu was Josuke in Paper Moon King. How would she not recognize he isn't wearing a sailor outfit? Obviously Josuke doesn't wear it every day. Clothes are like colors, they're not canon.
hoodlum with a rough exterior but a heart of gold, has only seriously harmed people who threatened his family, and never killed
autist with a quirky personality but is secretly a psycho and commits a hate crime every other arc
I don't think they could possibly be more different.
I thought Josuke8's stand cry was ora and sometimes ara, but I haven't noticed the aras in the storytime.
Araki made the Rock Humans because he wanted to have his MC be ruthless and kill without painting him as immoral. Even when JoJo gets darker and edgier, Araki still believes in heroism and justice
How does Jodio burning a schoolbus full of kids factor into this?
tsurugi and yasuho have mated like rabbits off-screen btw fyi
Blue Hawaii is kino
I haven't seen a single person in the previous thread who enjoyed the volume. The shovel thing and Jobin scenes were fun but the fight drags a and the enemy stand isn't interesting at all.
big brother
they
??????
>autist with a quirky personality but is secretly a psycho and commits a hate crime every other arc
Name one person he's killed that didn't deserve it/
I think people are letting how shit the end of JJL is cloud how they view it at this point. The part is far from flawless and already had a lot of annoying retcons crop up, the sheer amount of attempted rape is kind of weird like how consistent the eye gore is over other kinds, etc. But it's still overall good by now, and people were enjoying it at the time as well.
I think it's really only after Rai shows up things start to fall apart and even then it's not so much because the arcs immediately turn to shit and is more because some of the long-standing pain points became long-standing during that period. Stuff like how weirdly long Kei was sidelined, the Higashikatas not getting any real exploration outside Jobin (including Norisuke and Joshu getting sidelined despite having more focus earlier), and the string of random rock people continuing to show up without a strong central main villain figure to focus the story around getting tiring even if ones like Dr Wu were fine as an arc villain. Also Rai's schizobabble is probably the worst in the Part after his intro arc and really sets the tone for how fucking bad a lot of the dialogue got towards the end.
And then obviously by the time we get to WoU everything just sorta falls apart and people lost the ability to pretend Araki would pivot things back on track with a strong villain and more characterisation for the major cast and dropped plotpoints/retcons being explained and so on, and by the end the big pivot in Josuke's motivations happen where he ditches Holly for Tsurugi and kinda stops giving a shit about Yasuho in favour of his new family just fucking enraged everyone because honestly Tsurugis a disgusting little rape goblin and the Vitamin C arc made Holly infinitely more sympathetic and Yasuho is the loyalest bitch in the series while the Higashikatas are mostly cunts to Josuke
Araki changed to a normal ORAORAORA in the volume releases IIRC.
clearly it means he thinks bullies are on the same level as riggers
kaato was right
it's a fan-translation, the real pronoun used in japanese is one typically used by effeminate men or sometimes girls of certain cultures. it doesn't have a direct translation, TJL translations have been using "they" for Dragona since chapter 1 because Araki hasn't confirmed any identity shit yet (I don't think he should, it's cool to just have a fem-presenting guy rather than saying they're trans)
ooohhh yes you are right
Everytime I hear Jojo's I think of an AU where the Joestars are fated to run a bizarre fast food joint where they deal with rude customers and weird coworkers instead of going on bizarre adventure
Wait, which VA chapter mindbroke the threads? I missed that part of the storytime entirely.
And by this point, Josuke isn't getting any more meaningful interactions with the Higashikatas. I only remember the post-Ozone Baby interaction since that's the only time Josuke talks to Jobin after Beetle Tendency.
I think it was the SCR arc.
The one where Diavolo killed Narancia
Ohhh yeah I can see why that'd do it. Ultimately doesn't really matter since ||Narancia getting splattered by KC is totally believable regardless of how Araki justified it|| but I can see why the inconsistency of the mechanics would make people go mental.
But it's still overall good by now
This storytime has proved how deeply incoherent the story already is. You can find entertainment in it, but qualifying it as a "good" is questionable.
TARDsuho could recognize their voices being different. Are you going to argue Josuke and Joshu sound exactly alike then?
Araki doesn't like pearl jam tho
I think the Vitamin C retcons are really the worst of it so far, and while deeply annoying they're sorta inconsequential because we at least clearly know what really happened now instead of it being confused. Sloppy and honestly amateurish writing mistake, but unlike the Flashforward not the kind of thing that actively ruins your enjoyment while reading the Part.
I will not defend the incoherency of the writing though, don't get me wrong - Araki fucked up badly not plotting this shit out better, it's outrageous how often he clearly changed his mind about stuff. But I think by this point it's still enjoyable and the inconsistency isn't enough to really make you feel stupid for caring about the story or trying to figure out what's coming meanwhile by the end of it I felt like an idiot for ever giving a shit about Jobin/Yasuho/Holly/Norisuke or most of the mysteries.
Colors are not canon
Voices are not canon
Emojis are not canon
Clothes are not canon
Visible stands are not canon
I still don't remember the flashforward.
Well, most of the 'fights' consisting of gimmicky automatic stand chases can get tiring to read not to mention how dragged out they are for whatever reason. But maybe you're right, afterall, the outcome of Jousuke abandoning Holly retroactively ruins all the emotional scenes between him and her as well as the Kira/Josefumi flashbacks imo.
Diavolo was fated to kill Narancia by impaling him on the bars.
By using King Crimson, Diavolo erased time and removed his own fated path, meaning none of the others witnessed Narancia dying and he could keep himself hidden, but everyone else’s fate stayed the same, so Narancia was still impaled.
Pucci schizokino
nitter.net
CRAZY TRAIN
It's so stupid.
Does anyone have that Jolyne X Emporio video? I never got the chance to watch it
That anon blue balled us...
How would the OG Josuke handle all the rock humans we've seen so far?
yo angelo
I don't think rock humans can be converted to the light side after they lose, would be funny to see him try though.
It really is just the Holly and Kei shit that makes the part irredeemable to me honestly. I could probably get over it as just disappointing and an incoherent flop if it was just the mystery stuff that got terribly handled but Araki pivoting Josuke's character like that is so fucking dogshit holy FUCK, and Kei dying as well after being totally wasted is just salt in the wound.
He could have fucking just had Holly talk about how protecting kids was always her aspiration as a doctor and make her own kids realise she'd never want them to pick Tsurugi over her, and then had them take care of her in palliative care together. Still tragic and sad but at least not infuriating.
Idk Araki going out of his way to say "Diavolo/KC can't act during skipped time" and then pulling this shit is kind of infuriating. And saying fate itself impaled Narancia might as well be saying Araki is the one who did it himself.
Blue Hawaii is so fucking bad people would rather argue about Red Emperor again
It's OVERlion
I agree with this. Every Jojo part is full of inconsistencies (not to the same degree as JJL but still) and it's still good because the spirit of the part is consistent and resonates.
Part 8 asks you to be happy that the rape goblin was cured instead of Holly.
It asks you to be satisfied by the MC having his kill stolen by a self-righteous bitch.
It asks you to feel catharsis about a villain being defeated who was introduced mere chapters before the fight with him began.
People, who say, that King Crimson created causeless action by skipping time during Narancia's death, are just pushing their headcanons, because nothing in the story supports that. Narancia's fate is directly tied with Diavolo, if KC erased his own actions, then death shouldn't happen.
If Diavolo could just erase time and do nothing when someone is fated to die by his hands, why he doesn't abuse it? For example, why he even bothered to attack Giorno in final GER fight, if he foresaw Giorno's death?
The truth is, Araki just writes KC like the World from time to time. There is no deep meaning behind it.
i can't fucking wait for the flashforward thread
volume so shit we're back to KC debates
Name a more mean spirited ending than Part 8's.
And saying fate itself impaled Narancia might as well be saying Araki is the one who did it himself.
It is. If he didn't use KC he could lift Narancia with KC punch ghost and impale him. Anything he can do without KC he can skip the cause of with KC.
pulling this shit is infuriating
I'm not infuriated but I do agree it's retarded and is right, sometimes it's just written like The World.
storytime when?
Oshi no Ko?
I think White Snake is more BS that King Crimson
Anime watchalong when?
Diavolo also needed to attack Giorno in the very end instead of letting a donut hole magically appear while he stood still. The Narancia situation is just nonsense.
I genuinely think it has to be a cultural thing. Like I simply can't imagine thinking Tsurugi is likable or rooting for him to survive even with all the times he's portrayed as pathetic and scared like a real kid would be because of what a rancid little rape goblin he acts like other times. Like maybe Araki just doesn't find that shit to be a big deal.
But that still does nothing to explain why the fuck he thought building up Josuke deciding to save Holly for 2/3 of the Part and then just dropping the idea without addressing it was a good idea or why the fuck he thought Tooru was a good final villain or all the other shit he fumbled in the ending.
I can't without just naming pure misery porn series.
no it fucking doesn't it's extremely bittersweet, you can not like it, I don't! I think it sucks! but the tone of the ending is not catharsis, josuke lost, every character lost, a family we saw as dysfunctional but happy is broken with multiple members brutally slaughtered at the cost of "breaking" curse. josuke can't get the win himself, it's swooped up by kaato and holly's life is essentially taken in the process.
you're not meant to cheer, araki went with something kinda bold, he was probably super depressed during covid lol and just said fuck it calamity touches everything and there's no stopping it. it's the theme of the story, he wrote it around the 2011 earthquakes. it doesn't LAND it sucks it's not good writing but it's a choice and you're missing the point
He can't do it against Giorno because the whole gang is there. He kill Narancia because he sneaks up on him.
Would you rather be in an infinite death loop like diavolo, or an infinite death spin loop like funny valentine.
Both are infinite death loops, but one is "random' deaths and the other is the same torture over and over again.
BREAK OUT
VAGINA
Valentine, because you only die once then a different version of you dies. Diavolo you actually have the cumulative experience of infinite deaths, must be horrifying.
He can't do it against Giorno because the whole gang is there.
If it worked like against Bruno in the elevator and Narancia where nobody reacts, that would be irrelevant.
This is the only actual answer. KC is inconsistent, there is no actual explanation, Araki just writes it like it stops time instead of skips it in a couple instances.
He's already spotted in those cases, how would nobody react? For me the one that makes no sense at all is Bruno seeing himself. That's just retarded and has nothing to do with ANY other use of King Crimson.
is it even broken? How is it any different than Caato pushing the curse onto those kids?
He's already spotted in those cases, how would nobody react?
The same way Bruno didn't react to the weight his hand is holding shifting or Diavolo breaking the iron bars to stab Narancia.
I always figured valentine's consciousness (his "camera") transferred to a new body, so it would be the same as dying over and over again.
These 'rock candies'. . . What is their 'secret'?
There any anonymous users who think dragona is a hotter jojo than this blonde loli im one of them
We get shown Tsurugi dragging Norisuke's body in a bin bag and a bunch of other shit for a few pages that is supposedly in the future during the final arc, which is already centrered around a countdown to the fruit being ready and split across multiple perspectives with time jumps so that framing doesn't seem weird at all in the moment. And then it simply never fucking actually happens, so anons spent the best part of two years theorising and expecting it only for it to turn out to be a red herring because Araki changed his mind again.
The seething is going to be incredible.
One extremely ruthless bit was Cioccolata experiencing the 7 page muda, possibly in slow motion if the accelerated react speed activated. Dude would have felt like 1000 punches over the space of like an hour.
The actions taken in erased time are what would've happened had Diavolo not skipped time
Meaning if Diavolo let his Epitaph vision play out without skipping it, everyone would've just stood there blankly while he kebabs Narancia on the fence, presumably while he screams very audibly and loudly
I don't care if it's somehow different because they didn't know it was gonna happen before it got skipped or something this still makes no fucking sense
Causality in Jojo is explicitly bidirectional.
So in the real world, it would just be
IF Diavolo kills Narancia, THEN Narancia will die
But in Jojo it's
IF Diavolo kills Narancia, THEN Narancia will die
IF Narancia dies, THEN Diavolo will kill Narancia
Diavolo can remove himself from the equation, but the other element remains regardless of what he does. The effect just needs a cause to connect itself to, which we don't see because time skips.
A good example of this happening in a different part is the tea set breaking in the Bites the Dust arc.
IF Shinobu trips and falls after Hayato ignores her, THEN the tea set will break
IF the tea set breaks, THEN Shinobu will trip and fall after Hayato ignores her
but in the second loop, it's
IF the tea set breaks, THEN Hayato will knock it off the table
and in the third
IF the tea set breaks, THEN Kira will drop the cup on the rest of it as the handle snaps in his hand
If the effect no longer has a cause, the universe self-corrects and creates a new cause.
This is also basically how Diavolo's death loop works. GER sets his cause of death to 0, and prevents him from ever reaching the truth. So the universe keeps trying to create a cause for the effect of his death, but none of them work.
Can someone explain to me how diavolo escaped infinite death loop in george joestar? I remember reading that he used KC to escape somehow.
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Anon... Jojo Siwa is 21 years old...
I don't care if it's somehow different because they didn't know it was gonna happen before it got skipped or something this still makes no fucking sense
This is absurd because it's the crux of the entire explanation.
What Diavolo would do without KC:
sneaks up on narancia
KC lifts him and impales him
he yells and alerts everyone
everyone reacts, but it's too late, narancia is killed
now everyone knows where diavolo is
end result: narancia is dead, everyone is attacking diavolo
What he does with KC:
sneaks up on narancia
activates KC
KC lifts him and impales him
he has no memory of this because KC is active
everyone else has no memory of this because KC is active
end result: narancia is dead BUT nobody is attacking diavolo
Wasn't he just not actually dead and recovered from Joubin's attack after they thought he died?
Buddy he is pure evil. Not in a metaphorical way. He’s like the anti christ. Look at his origin story. His mother gave birth to him through immaculate conception in prison like an evil parallel to the Jesus birth, and as a youth he tortures and kills his own mother then burns down and kills everyone in his entire town. He’s not just some “bad guy” he’s literally a demonic force. I mean Araki named him Devil, he wasn’t trying to be subtle about it. So asking if he deserved it is like asking “does the anti christ deserve to go to Hell? He only did a finite amount of damage on Earth”.
You must be blind then
Yes but the issue is the flashforward showed shit that never actually happens explicitly because it all got contradicted.
I was thinking, diavolo could have a death where he lives an entire life from birth to death by old age, completely forgetting his own identity and what he did, only to come to after dying surrounded by his loved ones and gets hit by a train
I don't care if I understand King Crimson anymore...
I think the number 8 is cursed.
Isn't this just buddhism? You live every life that has ever been created.
Show me examples of people liking the arc then. At least the guy who claimed True Man's World was universally disliked had his own replies as evidence.
People talk about the SNK posters being the fanbase on here most devastated by their series ending being shit, but part of that is just that there were thousands more of them freaking out than any other series had. NGE fans losing their shit at the last Rebuild movie is the only comparably big fanbase facing a shit ending Anon Babble has seen in years.
But neither of them had people in genuine denial that the series was close to ending and coping so hard they seriously thought the writer had suffered a stroke to try explain why it was all so bad the way JJL did
Already did
Pucci got it pretty bad too. He's 100% erased from existence. He's not simply dead, he was never born.
Is this worse than infinite death loop? Pucci has no pain but also no pleasure or even ability the experience the universe. Diavolo eventually gets to taste oatmeal (then choke and die on it), have anal sex with a hooker (then die of a heart attack), feel good doing drugs for a few moments before a heart attack, ect.
It's an infinite death loop, but it's also an infinite sex loop, infinite drug simulator, ect. I honestly think you would just get used to being murdered all the time and just accept your fate.
"always look on the bright side of life"
Had a random thought a while ago
bait Diavolo into Superfly
stall him for 10 seconds minimum before running out
if everything goes correctly, he'll only try to exit Superfly to chase you after the 10 seconds
meaning, he won't see the effects of Superfly keeping him trapped with Epitaph until he's already walked in
pray he doesn't get anyone to swap places with him before he dies of thirst
The only way I think this could fail is if KC just lets him walk out without triggering the steel-ification thing. Or if you fail to evade him long enough and he just kills you I suppose that's likely too.
How would King Crimson and Bites the Dust interact?
If Diavolo finds out who Yoshikage Kira is, he's fucked.
you now remember people theorising Part 9 would be about SBRverse Joseph and Giorno fighting rock humans inside the hollow earth
Have you ever had a jojo related dream? I dreamt that I was fighting Whitesnake Ultimate in a parking lot once. I've never read george joestar, but seeing a three headed whitesnake in my dream was pretty fucking cool.
Nah. Mega Man X8 was good. Now 6 us a cursed number.
It's an infinite death loop, but it's also an infinite sex loop, infinite drug simulator, ect. I honestly think you would just get used to being murdered all the time and just accept your fate.
I've never seen anyone bring up the positives of being in an infinite death loop
at least i'm not freezing to death, says the man in literal hell burning to death for billion of Googolplexs.
inside the hollow earth
I once had a dream of Dragona getting legit raped on screen and everything. Probably because I watch to much shemale porn
He'd be able to predict and erase himself getting blown up by Killer Queen though, wouldn't he? Maybe not when time gets reversed, but probably when it happens again in the next loop out of nowhere.
neither of them had people in genuine denial that the series was close to ending and coping so hard they seriously thought the writer had suffered a stroke
Anon, SNKfags believe a Jewish conspiracy threatened the author into changing the ending because people were starting to realize that genocide to safeguard a future for your race is morally correct. Then they were coping that extra pages after the final chapter would fix the ending. Then they were coping that the anime would fix the ending. Nothing will ever top SNK as having the worst most devastating ending of all time for its fans, in which the author revealed simultaneously that the protagonist, who swore revenge for his mother's death for over 10 years, actually directly caused her death, and also that the protagonist died a cuck.
He's 100% erased from existence. He's not simply dead, he was never born.
I wish I traced this.
X6 is the last one I played and it pretty much killed my desire to play any later games, especially X7.
I'M SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO TSURUGI HIGASHIKATA AND IT WON'T GO AWAY
Your whole franchise IS cursed bro, your company already kissed the nugget
If DIO stops time for the entire universe, shouldn't that mean he gets flung out into space at near-lightspeed? The Earth by itself is revolving around the Sun at 107,000 km/h.