Jojo afterparty

Thoughts on the Wonder of U arc as we head into the final volume?

I'll only say this once

Repeats and schizobabbles for the next two volumes

Rai is still the best
I don't care what anyone says, I loved him

What a shitshow.

Cliffhanger on Kaato

YUP YUP YUP YUP
TOMORROW GODBIN VS JOSUKE MGS4 FINAL BATTLE
BE THERE

I am somehow more disappointed than game of thrones last season. And I read this trash for 7 years ongoing before and during covid

Anyway, see you tomorrow

We love Rai (and his CULO) here

Below this post you will explain how (You) would have written a better showdown with Wonder of U than what we got.

Go (Beyond).

Ahem*

Vitamin C is the last good arc of JoJolion, it gets so bad afterwards!

....okay Milagro Man was pretty good, but it gets SOOOOO bad after!

....alright Urban Guerilla was fun too...but trust me the quality is about to drop like a rock!

...Huh? Ozone Baby was go-

No...look I'm sorry I...I can't keep this sthick up. These last two volumes broke me. They were utter and complete shit. Just absolute dogwater. They really brought down a lot of JoJolion as a whole for me. I uh...I'm sorry for....spamming this for the past few days. Even I thought JoJolion wouldn't sink this low...

I forgot to ask last thread. What would ability would a Paisley Park - Nut King Call fusion have?

you’re going to help Josuke, Yasuho? I won’t let you, I’m going to rape you

nooo, get away from her Afro weirdo. I’ll protect you, Yasuho

I fucking hate this schizo

Bros...

I one time knew a girl who really really liked Yasuho, like thought she was a very good character. I wasn't around for most of this storytime so rape memes aside, can anybody confirm for me if Yasuho actually has any character before she just becomes Paisley Plot's pilot?

Can’t wait for the Third Rock Insect

the copypasta ragebait spammer was the WoU essayist

Yasuho point the phone at him

YASUHO I GET IT JUST POINT THE PHO-

YASUHO FOR FUCK'S SAKE POINT THE-oh fuck it, PAISLEY PARK DO YOUR THING

Why was Yasuho turned into an utter retard for this fight

Hmpf. It seems you've improved a bit since we last met.

It can't be... you...?!

But unfortunately, your journey comes at end, Jojolion. Come forth! Trout Mask Replica!

Whole plot was killer queen time fuckery. Reset to Kira and Josefumi. Vitamin C part 2 on a boat. Kira and Josefumi fuse second time, by choice, this time with different stand. Something, I dont know, this is ubsalvagable

Jousuke

kek based
i still enjoyed wonder of you for the hype moments and aura though

Yasuho killed Kei btw.

Say something nice about the final arc. I’ll start, lots of aesthetic pages/spreads and the Josuke moment with Holly was nice

Does he know?

Nut In The Park. Public exposure self rape long distance automatic stand

I unironically enjoyed it more than the VA finale arc.

Hope you guys are looking forward to tomorrow

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Reminder we still don’t know the cause of the family curse. I’m ok with certain stuff being ambiguous like devils palm or wall eyes but the cause of the curse feels way to hard to ignore

Whoever said this last time was right, this motherfucker makes Pucci's schizobabble look like elementary math.

AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Both are shit, but GER’s death loop is unironically more satisfying than go beyond and Tooru’s demise

GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD

You first-timers are not ready for tomorrow's volume. It's a laugh riot.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I will say Rai schizobabbling to another inmate to make him look at WoU and kill himself was pretty funny

What the fuck is Araki's problem?

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Fake tension. Just like when Mista sperged out at Giorno during Requiem.

My HERO will arrive tomorrow

Volume notes:

I don't often tell people what I do outside my office, but I've been exercising with a shaking machine recently. It's called a vibration machine, and when you get on it, it shakes your legs, spine, brain, and teeth. They say it was made to rehabilitate injuries. At first, I thought, "How is this going to help me exercise?" But once you take it seriously, it can help you build up a lot of muscle. You'll be out of breath afterward, though. It's a machine that produces gradual results without you even knowing it. An invention that produces JoJolion. (Note: The kanji for "gradual" (徐々) in Japanese is pronounced as jojo.)

Chapter notes:

103: This has been a year of self-restraint, but NHK will be premiering a Rohan TV drama at the end of the year, so please look forward to it!

104: Happy new year. I'm praying for the end of the coronavirus. JoJolion is also in its final stages.

105: I can't wait for the invention of self-driving cars. I wonder if it'd be okay for me to drive one, even though I don't have a license.

106: I didn't buy any clothes for a while due to self-restraint, but I finally went out to buy some and immediately got them dirty while drawing.

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for buildup
For the actual fight, give WoU an actual reality warping power instead of esoteric, inconsistent Araki schizobabble, maybe like a negative version of ZA HANDO.

Now, Radio Gaga was an unironic filler chapter that doesn’t thematically connect to the rest of part 8 or explain anything

Araki doesn't have a license

Huh?

JoJolion is also in its final stages

I like Hamon Beat but reminder he and many other Jojo YouTubers were coping hard that JoJolion had 5 more volumes because there were too many plot points left unsolved

What power should Josuke have unlocked instead of spin? It has to be something that can fused with PP to create a combo attack as well

The random futa picture being posted was the best part of the volume

Most japanese people don’t because their public transportation system doesn’t suck dick

I TRACED this

Kino

So that the "fight" happens at all, it would be over in a second. Also like the other anon said, muh "tension"

Joshuu...

Jojolion SUCKS

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I miss the sun shaped eyes, they don't look that hard to draw.

Neat

I don't care about the old hag Kaato I want more of my gigastacy

I FELL FOR IT AGAIN

It was cheap fanservice trying to do the High Voltage thing but failing, also it makes Tooru look like a gigantic retard for being in Morioh for 70 YEARS WITH A ROKAKAKA PLANT AND NOT DOING SHIT

I like the first half of the arc. The second half is a big step down and its unfortunate that the final arc of the series is one of the worst.

WHERES THE ROCK NOSE

Hamon Beat’s part 8 video is 30 minutes long

That’s how you know part 8 was a fuck up, extreme headcanon is needed to make sense of it.

b-b-but subtext

This is JoJo where the themes are literally narrated to the reader

How did Araki go from SBR to this slop?
SBR ends kind of stupid too but not even a fucking Stand Arrow power up this time. Did he lose all ability to plan a story or what?

everything so far has been amazing, the next volume is actually where jojolion shits the bed

Planted it 70 years ago

But still has to import fruit for some reason

I still don't understand...but I suppose we can go more into that tomorrow

Tooru is so cool...

WoU looking like he’s about to adopt a monkey and name him George

Jobin won even if he is dead.

It has higher highs for sure. But WoU's lows in particular are in an entirely different level.

Based
She's only sexy if she has the ROCK NOSE

B-BUT GUYS
THE COUNTDOWN
SOFT AND WET BITES THE DUST FORESHADOWING
PAPER MOON KING CRIMSON
GUYS

Araki concussed himself daily

My god, no wonder SBR anon said he wasn't doing it
You have my praise anon

if mitsuba or joshu's stands were pierced by polnareff/giorno's arrow, what anti-wonder of u requiem stand ability would they gain?

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"Emojianon"...

Part 8 was a dense mystery with lots of plot points, Araki is the worst type of writer to handle this sort of story. He also went straight into JJL after part 7 without a break in between. It’s why I have more faith in part 9, simpler story and he took time to plan before he started

THE COUNTDOWN

Oh yeah, I actually forgot about that.

Where are the other family members, what was even the point of them? Daiya and Haato are irrelevant and useless shitters

Remember vehicle destruction count anon?

Araki got a full body vibrator

This was actually my reaction when this came out. I also was mad Karera never came back.

Part 8 was a dense mystery with lots of plot points, Araki is the worst type of writer to handle this sort of story. He also went straight into JJL after part 7 without a break in between. It’s why I have more faith in part 9, simpler story and he took time to plan before he started

I don't even hate most of it and you could salvage a ton of this with a bit of work, i'm just kind of shocked he hasn't done anything to it since. He must know it doesn't make any fucking sense.

TOMORROW
THE BEST VOLUME IN JOJOLION

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RIP

Araki has maybe foreshadowed 2-3 things total in all of JoJo

Now that the dust has settled, what are Anon Babble's thoughts on /ourguy/

I forgot one of the Rai emojis, god dammit. I'll add it tomorrow. 18 is the correct amount.
Thank you.
Rai...

Best character after Jobin and Norisuke.

Absolute kino

Kei Nijimura was...

Every single fucking theorycrafting faggot was like this when this chapter dropped, I swear
Jobinfags especially.

I like him a lot but the way he dies felt very contrived.

built for thighjobbing

Had no lines since Born This Way

disappears from the story pretty much after Vitamin C

removed from the family photo because reasons

50 chapters later pops back up into the story

Just wants to help take care of her comatose mother

Yasuho calls her and tells her to go into a room with Josuke oh but be careful because "Calamity will strike" (whatever the fuck that means)

"Okay sure I'll go give this phone to Josuke and then go back to taking care of momma."

Dies

Josuke doesn't even have a fucking reaction

Nor Yasuho

Not even mentioned again, just fuck Kei for existing I suppose

Was this the worst handled character in Jojo?

it's nearly over, drop your schizotheories/headcanons on what toru means for the greater themes of jojolion

Jobinbros.... I'm starting to get a little scared... I thought our KING would have cauterized his wounds by now; Tooru is just a high voltage villain right broskies?...

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No, Yasuho is trash, she only exists so araki can get his rocks off torturing her with cheap sexual assault fanservice, her stand is more relevant to the plot than she will ever be. That girl you knew probably got groomed as a kid and relates on a deep personal level to Yasuslut the rapetown's toy.

444

He doesn’t look at the pages after he finishes drawing them

the countdown

Was the funniest thing when it was around. Josuke/Rai/Yasuho took four days to go from the hospitals parking lot, to the hospital itself kek.

Hamon Beat says it can't be over yet. Stop dooming. There are at least four volumes left.

Banned for racism
I blame Adi Shankar

>removed from the family photo because reasons

Kek, remember the fucking headcanon galore of WoU having the power of erase history or something

yasuho in the anime style

Cursed

He doesn’t look at the pages after he finishes drawing them

So the only hope of this retardation getting fixed is they make an anime out of it and he has to look it over again.
Jeez.

He always shows his face when the manga is having a rough patch and makes thing 10 times more fun. I also like his character.

Have faith anon, have you no hope!?

Kaato grabs Jobin's dead body and throws it at Tooru

They exchange

Jobin comes back to life WITH WoU

"Thank you mother. Now, with this unstoppable stand, we are INVINCIBLE!"

It's time

forgotten from literally her introduction and bitterly shafted multiple times when she was finally remembered.
What?

He's fun but it'd be better if he were introduced sooner.

When WoU talked with the reporter, he did keep talking about the reporter ingesting some of the rokakaka fruit, like he was manipulating past events. This was dropped of course, but I can see where that theory came from. It's just unlikely Araki had anything planned for Kei.

AS A FUCKING LIVE AND BREATHE

everything so far has been amazing

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I really want to understand Araki’s thought process through the story. I know we meme about him being a retard but he must have ideas that he scrapped for some reason.

Zzzzz

storytime fags cannot comprehend one person enjoying jojolion

Araki wrote a book on how to write manga btw

Do as I say, not as I do

This shit feels like it was written by an alien and not even in the usual JoJo way. The very basics of story writing just is not present at all.

can I have a summary on whats going on on jojolands till the last chapter, please? is it engaging/worth it, like more than part 8?

New readers, thoughts on the finale?
People reading again, any change of perspective?

Is it translated? I am kinda wondering how much of it he contradicts in jojolion

or part 8 was better when it was at the same chapter in jojopart9

WoU is so so much better than fucking Blue Hawaii and Doobie Wah it's not even funny.

Is this the thing Powerscalers has been jerkoff so much about ? some shitty bubble that can penetrate things (and can't even control)?

as*

People reading again, any change of perspective?

Phantom Blood clears Jojolion actually.

shut the fuck up holy shit, at least that had tension and stakes and cool interactions and a clear win condition and sleeping slaves was a good thematic sendoff to the part talking about fate and stuff fuck off

It's somehow even worse in a marathon. All these back to back vapid twists and turn obviously written to stall are exhausting

Uh... whatever. I'm too tired to even argue

Araki tried really hard to integrate her into the plot, but it was a worthless effort. He gave her the strongest support in the story, shoehorned a flashback about her meeting Holy and Kira, made the final villain her ex-bf, made her the reason why everything started by helping Tooru, and even made her a key player in the functioning of Go Beyond.
All of this and she still feels like she has no value outside of her stand, she has no agency, purpose and neither the guts to be part of this story.

I cracked the code, bros... with a little help from an ally, of course. It'll only be up for 12 hours, so get it while it's hot.
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WHAT are the actual "lows" of this arc?

muh hatmaid

rock insect fight that lasts 1 chapter

jobin dying? as if he was gonna be the fucking main villain anyway i feel like this storytime proved he was never material for that

uhh uhhdudh mdurrrr durr

for an arc that's like 25 chapters long i think, counting the 4 chapters that aren't named WoU it's pretty consistently good and a GOOD finale

You can't fix WoU without reworking the story on a very basic level.

Best I can offer is cut like 60% of it outright so it sort of makes sense.

Huh, can't believe I missed that.

WoU was just the Vanilla Ice of this part, the real final battle starts tomorrow btw

Hamon Beat...

This.

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The entire arc is the low man. You have Rai schizo-rambling the entire time, the rules of WoU are constantly being rewritten, people keep dying accomplishing nothing, Yasuho keeps doing nothing, everything keeps getting dragged on (Josuke pursuing WoU, airplane door falling, Tooru approaching Yasuho, Yasuho aiming the phone)

You now remember all these anons going on about how Jojolion was the best part of Jojo circa 2017

Mamma mia
Excellent work

Wonder of U has the ability to "edit" someone's personal history, with Tooru being able to enter, observe, and interact with them.

This ability relies mainly on how much Tooru knows about someone, as he can't use WoU on someone's memories if he has no idea what they are.

Examples could include Tooru/Wou inserting themselves into someone's memory of a funeral. Tooru and his 'grandfather' could either be a comforting, supportive friend to gain that person's trust or use this tragic event as emotional manipulation for later use.

Tooru is a Rock Human, someone with no personal experiences, family moments, or notable events in his life. He just exists. Wonder of U reflects his desire to have any sort of connection with someone, human or not, through "inserting" himself into people's minds as a trustworthy, friendly, and good guy.

Said desire, while sympathetic, is twisted by him being totally unable to comprehend why people's memories are good or bad and his willing to use people and discard them when he gets what he wants.

Tooru's biggest enemy, then, is Josuke who is a man without a defined past. A new human with no real memories to manipulate.

While Tooru lives off other's memories like a parasite, Josuke forges a new future for himself by making his own memories.

Your honest to Christ reaction when you were reading it monthly and Araki was stalling Josuke in the chair vs a fucking bug for more than 1 year, and then proceeded to pull out another rock pokemon?

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Happy new year. I'm praying for the end of the coronavirus

So Araki is religious?

Everyone is so incompetent or such shitheads I started rooting for Toru at some point

If I'm to believe what I saw in Aggretsuko, this is a thing in Japan. People there just use the subway, I guess.

all jojolion hate is just downstream from monthlykeks projecting their own melties on new readers

Anons need to understand how many fucking breaks Araki took combined with the fact so many chapters felt like filler. I took multiple month breaks after Wou brought out that rock animal against Josuke and Rai.

We love CHADbladi CHADblada here.

Nice art, but I don't like Pissuke and Piss&Wet.

An entire volume of planning and setup and reveals by utilizing every shitty stand in the family to make a trap which forces wonder of U to pursue itself or defeat itself by attacking.

At this point I'm having more fun treating jojolion like it was a comedy manga

Pure suffering to read this ending monthly

That part 8 video is so embarrassing. He picked some bottom of the barrel Araki forgots to make it seem like there weren't any major ones. He didn't even talk about major retcons lol.

I don't remember. I was just reading. My only reaction was when Araki decided to abandon Joshu's character development after blueballing us with a heroic moment.

I feel zapped out of energy to be honest. Rai haunting Jousuke is pretty funny i suppose

He's a pretty boring character, with his tiresome monologues and annoying attitude toward Yasuho (albeit somewhat justifiable).
But the fact that he's been through so much shit simply because he's that passionate about fruit (to the point of dying for it) is a bit funny, especially considering he never became close with the rest of the cast.
He is the only companion character in the entire series that feels like just an acquaintance rather than a friend.

I don't care if it doesn't make sense. Bring back BtD. A time travel plot would be far more interesting than go beyond

I'm a new reader and the pacing was still miserable... Josuke took like 10 pages to shoot the bubble, and then it took 6 more pages for it to (almost) hit Tooru for it to end in a cliffhanger... The novelty of those splash pages wore off real fast, and that's just one moment of horrible pacing. I can't fathom anyone reading this monthly, much less with breaks.

Soon...

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I believe WoU is sentient because I find it cuter that way

Singlehandedly redeemed the second half of JoJolion for me.
He should have been a major ally much earlier though, Araki should have written him before Vitamin C at the very least.

Honestly some of the best laughs I had in while. I do not remember Rai talking that much after 'dying'

Well, if there's any new reader here I would gladly read their opinion on this final arc.

This thread is going to lose their shit in two chapters. Everyone who made fun of her Stand is gonna regret it.

Same, same.

Bring her back for part 9 so I can start reading it.

Tooru bros ww@
We are KINGS
we WILL survive
We WILL NOT be just dreams and memories

Are you excited for tommorow you gais?

I read Jojolion for the first time here.

It's pretty shit. Some good moments here and there, mostly because WoU on paper is very cool, but the context almost always ruin it.

I will not reread the part anytime soon, and probably won't watch the anime when it airs except if I'm really desperate.

THAT panel is tomorrow

New readers, thoughts on the finale?

It got gradually worse. I don't think its dogshit but it has massive problems.

Not really. I guess the Part 8 Hunger Games in the afterparty will be fun.

The stand is cool but the fight dragged out way too long and the conclusion was disappointing.

WoU is like dragon's dream, he is sentient. Tooru can look through his yes and give him general direction but everything else is WoU talking

I'm honestly too tapped out to care. I knew this arc was infamous, but now I know why. It's "carried" by Wonder of U stealing the show and while he's fun to look at, it lacks substance. In a way, it's sort of like a shittier DIO's World for me, as DIO was so much fun to watch.
t. never read past Part 6 because I got lazy and sidetracked until this storytime.

It's good so far, Araki took a break after Part 8 so he actually had time to think of a plot and characters that were engaging again

I like Tooru more than first time read but these last two volumes really still soured a lot for me

SEXO

It has cool moments but it's a slog to get to them. Automatic stands aside, the only fun battles were Beetle Tendency, Josuke vs Twins, Vitamin C, Josefumi vs Twins and Oujiro vs Jobin/Tsurugi. The pacing was pretty bad with arcs overstaying their welcome, dialogue was clunky, and too many wasted character, it's by far the worst part imo.

This is good advice tho

Speed King Requiem would be able to purify the rock disease with its flames

This is why his writing process is incoherent, at least the other jojo parts had enough entertaining stuff to counteract the bullshittery

killed so Araki would never have to acknowledge her again

Automatic stands aside, the only fun battles were

Gah! What a horrible way to word it. I meant to say that even aside automatic stands, the stand battles were forgettable.

Hey uh there's no fruits left
How's Holly gonna...

New readers, thoughts on the finale?

It might be my least favorite part and if it wasn't for the threads I would've struggled to read it much more

[raughs]

'Flashing' WoU is 'pursuing'...

Bottom of the page

Who were they gonna sacrifice for her anyway? Dolomite? Jobin's corpse?

I don't think I would make it without the threads...

I never read Part 8 monthly on my first read so I did manage to get through it at a reasonable pace but I definitely didn't like it. I think on this reread I like it even less.

The Golden Heart of Morioh provides.

I can see Araki realizing he has no clue on how to end the curse so he just wrote this bullshit at the last second. Hell, we don’t even know why the curse is a thing

People reading again, any change of perspective

It's definitely worse than I remember which is a shame. I love everything about WoU except for how he's executed. Kei's death always pissed me off, so seeing it again didn't help. And to top it off, toru's defeat just isn't satisfying. Every villain had a satisfying thematic death except maybe dio, so this villain getting killed by schrodinger's bullet just felt limp. I binged through all of jojolion so I was lighter on it than others. I shudder to think about people who went through this shit monthly.

Josuke sacrifices himself

Splits into two again, Josefumi was the sacrifice and Kira is back

Happy ending

Is there a mangaka that needs to be tard wrangled more than Araki?

I first read it at the beginning of the year and I now hate it with a passion.

The OG Josuke would not be jobbing this hard. Why is Jousuke such a shitty hero?
Just explain how showing him something isn't pursuing since he's already in the room

How would a bubble that trenscends logic cure illnesses? We've only seen it destruct things.

It's simply inexcusable for a writer of Araki's caliber. It would only be logical to expect something better from someone with his experience. It's even more indefensible considering the success of the Jojo franchise as a whole means that Araki could have at any point taken breaks to figure out where to go next and his editors would've gladly waited for him to come back.

Bubbles that can't be seen can overcome curses

What undoes the Higashita family curse is the new rokakaka anyway

There are no more new rokakaka

People reading again, any change of perspective?

I barely had any opinions on Jojolion that weren't about Joshu, but reading it again without a month long gap between chapters, I can definitively say that it's my least favorite part. I just can't tolerate the messy plot and Joshu humiliation at the end after Milagro Man.

It can "go beyond" the "logic" of the "illness".

4th or 5th reread here (for real). I like Jojolion as vignettes of ideas, a playground for Araki to explore concepts. It is a bad serialized manga and I accept that more every time I read through the arcs. I find the individual fights less enjoyable, I get more frustrated with the inconsistencies and it isn't triumphant at all. I just get sad. Because at one point this was my favorite part.

Toru continues getting better though, I love him as a villain so much I really do think he mogs a lot of other jjba baddies. He became a punching bag, a walking symbol for the failures of Jojolion but he is not the problem. He's a great foil for josuke, he encapsulates the themes of the story, he has personality, he has motivations and they really are not as opaque as many say. It's a bad arc, Wonder of U was a poorly conceptualized stand. He is a good character. I don't like Gappy as much as I remembered though, he's becoming shallow the more time I spend with him. :(

These threads do make me depressed kinda because while it's super fun to shit on jojolion, it's probably the most memeable part, I think a lot of people are using the opportunity to mock Araki as a way to masquerade their true disappointment with the story. It's a story that's BEGGING to be loved, there is so much to be charmed by with the premise/world/characters and I just don't believe anyone in these storytime threads that is saying shit like "nah it was always bad from the start" dude I bet you used to love jojolion and you're just bitter now.

It's a great study for writers I think. Recently I watched True Detective season 2 and thought it was super similar to Jojolion in problems, with similar strengths of great "conceptual vignettes" would recommend it for anyone captivated by this part in a morbid autopsy sense

More asinine logic

the snails

Narancia’s death

go beyond and spin in general

part 1 was good

part 2 was good

part 3 was good

part 4 was good

part 6 was good

part 7 was good

part 9 is good

What happened with 5 and 8 to make them the outliers?

Get rid of Giorno completely or combine his traits with Bruno, and most of part 5’s problems disappear completely. He is the most disconnected joestar. Imagine being the son of Dio and still be boring as fuck

Narancia's death was the dumbest thing in the universe

Why didn't KC just kill all of them? He can karate chop them all in an instant?

B-BECAUSE ONLY NARANCIA WAS FATED TO DIE

If KC can't interact with stopped time how was he able to lift up-

SHUT UP

Araki tends to go full schizo during his depression eras.

In my mind space Go beyond is a reference to the MHA anime soundtrack
Araki thought he was too good to end the part with a straight good guys vs the bad guy fight.

Araki could have taken breaks

This right here is why I'm annoyed about JoJolion being the way it is. Araki decided to jump straight into JoJolion after ending SBR (Chapter 1 came out right after SBR ended). Even when he had a break, he usually released a Rohan one-shot.
I FUCKING HATE ARAKI!!!

Eh, part 1 was pretty weak. Not egregiously bad like part 8 but VA is better

Jonathan barely bonds with Zeppeli or speedwagon(who just forced himself in the story)

boring ass fights with incomprehensible choreography and anatomy

The finale is good, I’ll admit. The emotional core of Dio and Jonathan is solid.

Morioh is a cursed place.
It didn't have effect on Part 4 because Araki had still the positive energy of previous parts, but it eventually overflowed to Italy.

LOLLLLL

People are more in love with jojolion as an idea than the actual story which is people offer so many interpretations to fill in the gaps. You could honestly fix this story pretty easily

filtered unironically

The snails made no sense but at least it was a one and done things
"There is a certain kind of rainbow pattern that either turns you into a snail or makes you think so", okay, I accept it, I can move on and enjoy a decent fight between Weather Report and his brother.

Narancia's death made complete sense to me, you just need to accept that fate in Jojo is a fixed thing and that Narancia's fate was to be bum rushed by KC and impaled. the fact that KC was only fated to do that because his own power allows him to do it without being caught is a kind of recursive statement but not innately paradoxical

I like the Spin more than Hamon, go Beyond is shit that comes from nowhere and returns to nowhere. It says nothing about Josuke beyond the fact that he can use the Spin. And he can only use the Spin because apparently Araki forgot his entire plundering ability.

Phantom Blood has the best story out of any Jojo part.

A lot of anons in the story time kept mentioning how boring the non Kira chapters were. Before part 5, part 4 definitely had the biggest opinion shift during the story time but the finale is 10/10

I've been thinking about it, and a lot of the flaws with this series make sense when you consider that it functions on playground logic. You know, shit like "Your Gyarados can't hurt my Charizard because his fire evaporates the water."
A good example of this is the Spin. The Spin is actually pretty consistent in what it does: it makes things rotate. The problem is that Araki has the mindset of a 5 year old, so he claims that things that are rotating can do a lot of dumb shit.

part 9 is good

this was debunked

I like Josuke, Yasuho and Karera and I'm glad Rai died.

Newfags from other boards here will complain about muh wokeness in the very fast chapter of part 9, lel

>part 9 is good

I really fucking hope it is after going thorugh this.

I've been playing Eyes Of Heaven for the past few hours and the combat is so dogshit. What the fuck were they thinking?

OH GOD I LOVE JOTARO SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Pretty much this.

I don't give a shit about anyone involved, I don't give a shit about WoU, design looks like a microphone wearing a suit so it's not even cool in that regard. I don't care about the supossed hype moments.

Narancia’s death

The universe works on a self correcting principle in JoJo. You didn’t think all the gravity talk was metaphorical, did you? It’s like how in BtD, the tea cup always breaks. Many fare and time travel stories have this concept

How would you have handled Kei? Personally, I think her issue could be solved if we went back to the gang of 5 or 6 Araki had for parts 1-6 instead of primarily focusing on Gappy and Yasuho.

Anons need to understand how many fucking breaks Araki took

im pretty sure it was just 2 as araki doesnt tend to take more than 1 break per year

That sentiment has yet to receive a proper bunking. Wait until the story time reaches it.

Yasuho and Josuke barely interact which is even more egregious. The romance between them was overstated by fans, there isn’t any

SAME TYPE OF STAND

They're so fucking lazy kek.

I kept waiting for part 8 and it's characters to be good but it just never happened

Have Kei act as an interceptor for the group. Yasuho took up too many roles in the story, I feel having her be a hacker type would benefit her character, but she ended up doing too much.
Kei should've given info to Josuke to push the plot, maybe even have her talk about Holly a bit more.

Make it so she was simply close friends with Holly and wants to cure her and all the complains about Josuke not interacting with his supposed sister go away.

By gaming standards? I suppose I am hmhmhm

>OH GOD I LOVE JOTARO SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I could take some Jotaro right about now tbqh

Gaming

Fucking autocorrect HAVING
HAVING

I miss DIO's World so much...

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May I introduce you to Kei Nijimura?

They added a bunch of fanservice then forgot they had to make a game as well

Not 'consenting' to 'pursuing'! My one 'weakness'!

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By gaming standards?

And all others.

jojolion could be fixed with more tsurugi lewd pantyshots

>Not 'consenting' to 'pursuing'! My one 'weakness'!

Not pursuing is also pursuing!

How the fuck did a weekly serial have better artwork and pacing than a monthly one? The art is so crisp and easy to follow. The panel work isn't all over the place and confusing. I know Araki is getting older, but what the fuck.

I'm already married to her.

After checking the archives it looks like a lot of anons wanted part 9 to be a direct sequel to jojolion . They seriously thought Jojolion could be fixed retroactively.

Jobin appears next Part 9 chapter, btw.

Relatively it is, but it's still only middling for how for being like a quarter in.

two more days until GODio

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If you should learn anything from Part 8 it's that good editors and assistants are potentially the most important part of the manga process.

This is the only sexy thing in that picture

Why did Araki just start killing off people at the end of part 8 like there was no tomorrow.

Araki wasn't reliant on doing non manga pieces like he is now. Back then, his references were other manga. Now, his references are his own work and are limited to tracing poses of female fashion models.

two more days until the storytime is mindbroken by Dragona

Can't wait <3

You can't fix retcons with more retcons.

I honestly hope we see grown up Tsurugi in part 9. We probably won't, though.

Returning to his Fist of The North Star roots.

He just might be the worst Jojo character of all time.

The snails don't have to make sense, it's villain power explanation schizobabble. Sure Weather is not a villain per se, but the arc is treated as a stand negatively affecting the protagonists. You might as well ask what the exact biological mechanism is that Alessi's stand uses to de-age people. It doesn't matter.

The whole concept of pursuit didn’t have to be as complicated or inconsistent as it was. It should have followed the logic of The D’Arby and Manson stands.

if you felt defeat or cheated in your heart while playing, you lost your soul

WoU didn’t need that "just looking at a photograph" type shit. If you keep physically pursuing him, the type of calamity gets worse and worse. If you walk near the doctor but still think about attacking him, a minor calamity will occur

Genuinely, what the fuck is Araki's problem? Made this nice piece of ass just for him to say it's a man.

Where was that whole change of heart thing supposed to go? It really seems like Araki wanted to do so much more but just ran out of gas.

Araki's anatomy got so bad. I genuinely can't understand why people praise his artwork so much. Sure, it's sometimes pretty to look at but it's so shallow beyond that.

Araki has been playing with his weird concept of "gender" since Giorno.

Kei says she infiltrated the Higashikata home to learn their secrets

Had zero clue about Jobin's laundering with the fruit parlor

Had zero clue about the existence of the Rock Humans doing dealing with Jobin

Had zero clue about Kaato and Jobin's dealings behind the scenes

Had zero clue about what really happened to Holly

Had zero clue about any of their fucking stands

What a dog shit spy

It's unfathomably based. Once again, Araki is twenty years ahead of his time.

So, at the end of the day, how do we feel about Joshu as a character?

It’s funny, you see this hot babe getting felt up and it turns out it’s a guy

Who the fuck was she even infiltrating for? On paper, she just wants to help her mom, but why would she assume the Higashikatas have anything at all to do with her mom? I wasn't around for the storytime so I could be misremembering something and maybe this did get explained.

Jobin's wife had more agency than Josuke and Rai

artwork

I assume it's because of Araki's age. IIRC Toriyama also talked like he can't do the dynamic panelling DB used to have anymore.

pacing

Jojolion feels like he's trying to write weekly manga again, so there is a lot of padding to end in cliffhangers, and while that works well enough for a weekly manga, it doesn't in a monthly one because of the increased page count (Around 13 pages for weekly, around 40 for monthly).

People forget that he was originally going to be a woman. Now imagine Ultra Jump Araki writing Part 5 with a female Giorno...

Wasted Potential Man
I remember having a theory that Joshu was going to get a spin ability because the nuts on the screws spin

He’s too unstable and creepy, I hate him.

Our hero, still trying to protect his (ungrateful) girlfriend till the end

My HERO...

R U I N E D

He's basically the only character people still talk about "positively" regardless of how much of it is memes. In a manga full of personality-less losers Joshu is at least always entertaining whenever he is active in the manga.

Giorno would be the undisputed #1 Jojo if he was a girl.

I honestly like him up until he tries to help Yasuho in The Wonder of You. Complete character assassination, and a waste of a cool stand.

Fem Giorno

Still sidelined in favor of Bruno

This part has had no characters I am particularly partial for.

That sounds really cool and interesting so sadly it couldn't happen in JoJolion

and maybe this did get explained.

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And it'd take a lot of shoehoring to get a new jojo involved. Some even got mad that Jousuke wasn't the main character in part 9's chapter 1 archive. I can't blame them too much since Araki entertained that idea with mentioning there being rokakaka in the islands to the south

Part 5 is enjoyable when you go back to read a specific fight you liked, it is a weak story overall but each individual arc is pretty fun.

Araki wouldn’t have made Giorno so stoic if she was a girl. Her personality would connect to the ability to make life.

I think it's just drilling in that Jobin was a bad influence. Really I think PMK should've been used as either the solution to Wonder of U or for a high voltage epilogue arc

Character designs and abilities were much simpler back then so there was no need to convey a lot. It's hard to keep up with what a character with a lot in their body is going on when everything round them is just as detailed. As for pacing, Araki was often at risk of being terminated by WSJ so there was pressure to keep fights more concise to keep readers hooked.

Diavolo almost rapes femGiorno in the middle of a fight

Whew.

There is a cope going around that Joshu attacking Yasuho is due to WoU's influence.

I don't buy it personally.

Fem Giorno and Bruno sex scene

Actually hot as fuck potentially.

I unironically think Yasuho is the worst character of the entire series. Complete waste of panel.

I like how Josuke and Yasuho pursue Calamity for 20 chapters and are fine yet Jobin sees it once and dies from a can of hairspray

K-Karma

Then why did Kei die immediately too? She's a good person, the worst that should've happened was she stubs her toe

Because she attacked the doctor

Why didn't Josuke die yet from all the ti-
You know what I'm just gonna stop

Joshu has been unhinged from the start. Him mounting Yasuho or sperging out may be unsatisfying but it’s not out of character at all. He’s delusional

Come up with the dumbest stand ability you can think of.
For me it is

looking at the stand makes it so that it is physically impossible for you to take any action, including inaction, that would cause you to stop looking at the stand

I'm not even trying to buy or sell anything regarding that. It's just bad writing, I don't need to cope.

Would you rather have

Reliable guy that's constantly glazed nonstop by every other character

Or

Useless girl who's constantly shat on by every other character

Hated it back then and I still hate it now.

Arguable the best part of jojolion. Love him or hate him it was always fun seeing him on the secreen, except the WoU arc.

Stand that invokes "calamities" upon you if you "approach" it.

>K-Karma

Retconned, I'm afraid.

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Explain why, and even though her stand is the reason there were any survivors at all?

jodio and dragona exploring eachothers bodies

It's mostly because of the more detailed shading, it makes the art look better at first glance. OPM has something similar, the art has a lot of shading so it looks pretty, but the more you pay attention the more issues there are in more recent chapters.

what would be counted as "approaching"?

...

AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE DAMN IT ARAKI

I love Yasuho, she was the best part of the series after Josuke himself. And aside from 2 other character everyone else was unlikable.

The hatching getting worse is his age because he can't hold the pen with different levels of pressure anymore, but that's it. Toriyama's an entirely different beast.

NTA but Koichi, because once he gets act 3 he mostly stops existing.

Aren't they siblings? I only read the first couple chapters so I might be wrong.

karma is not right and wrong, it's cause and effect. the "karma" meme with wou is just another extension of equivalent exchange as a concept

A stand that allows the user (male) to fuck open any lock as long as he can make it climax before he does. The lock would deform in a flesh-like way regardless of its composition, sort of like how Spice Girls affects matter. How hard a given lock is to drive to climax is loosely based on its overall "security".

Easy, my OC Stand, Gorillaz

Four monkeys who can act autonomously over a long range and be given orders to follow

But the monkeys are retarded and will fall for literally any kind of deception or be distracted by a passing banana truck

How would Johnny or Josuke handle Tooru?

Has some funny moments and some annoying moments. He's a more unhinged version of your typical perverted bro character (without being an actual bro of course). But what was supposed to be his character moment during WoU is godawful and completely indefensible.

helllll yes they are dude and jodio TAPPED that ass

Yasuho constantly molested

Dragona constantly molested

I'm noooticing...

Yes and?

karma is not karma

Anybody remember when people thought Karera was a secret villain for a short time? I remember people pointing out the similarities between her and Tooru/WoU for a short while back then.

Here Comes The Sun
The user can target certain people. Those people will receive deadly burns if they are exposed to sunlight. Global range. If it's cloudy or you just wear clothes or you just walk around at night you are safe

I actually really like the drawback of "the stand is a dumb stupid fucking retard"

you have a normie understanding of what karma means

Her stand

Paisley Park is actually part of Yasuho's problem. A bunch of times Yasuho is doing something else while Paisley Park is doing all the heavy lifting. It even feels like Yasuho is more of a package deal, meaning she's only brought along because Paisley Park is needed.

Stand Name: Gang(starting never stopping)

A suit stand that stores all kinetic energy and allows the user to use the energy to blast himself in one direction

Stop The Rock
Ability: Prevents objects from moving towards the user

The fact your defense of her is her plot device stand (that acts most of the time by itself) is already pretty telling of her quality. Aside of that, what's there to say? She's a Barbie doll with no purpose than to be the chapter's misery porn, she never does anything clever (her stand solves everything by herself), her """"chemistry""""" with Josuke is just constant blueballing that goes nowhere and she has no dynamic whatsoever with other characters. Araki's attempts to reconnect her to the story with Tooru are embarassing even by JoJo standards and 95% of her panel time is standing still, wide-eyed, reacting at the situation. There are literal tertiary P1 characters with more coherent emotional cores than her.

Part 5 is good and I would re-read it alongside the other parts.
I would never re-read part 8 and after this storytime my mind will forget it even exists.

You have a pseud understanding of what karma means and

normie

are a failed normalfag.

These are now the main villain's minions in <part of your choice>
How do the heroes fare?

Jodio

Jodio, your November Rain is spinning Jodio.

It doesn't have 4 legs, it only has one, it's just spinning quickly, Jodio.

It looks like a deformed shower head, Jodio.

The "flow" of your droplets controls the "flow" of everything. Like the flow of piss into my mouth Jodio.

Since when could PP turn 2 phone screens into portals?

Does anyone else feel like JoJolion was bizarre for the sake of being bizarre? In my opinion, JoJo was bizarre because of multiple odd factors adding up to something that makes sense. For example, if you broke down the 'The World' arc, it becomes truly bizarre.
But in JoJolion, things happen for the sake of being weird. Early (Vol 1-13) JoJolion didn't have this issue really.

Usagi tanked that piss.

autonomous

long range

After this storytime I winced when reading those words...

But the monkeys are retarded and will fall for literally any kind of deception or be distracted by a passing banana truck

That is surprisingly refreshing. IIRC autonomous stands are always about as smart at the user right? An autonomous stand that is dumber could create amusing moments with the user trying to get them to do things correctly.

dragona porn sucks wtf there's no good porn

Part 5 really suffers from inconsistent quality than anything else, desu. You have some REALLY amazing fights (Grateful Dead, White Album, Bruno vs KC, Green Day) and some DOGSHIT ones (Clash & Talking Head, Man in the Mirror, Metallica) which makes it super frustrating since it lives and dies by the stand battles.

Stand Name: xXBloodKillerXx
Ability: The user can target anyone and kill them instantly... it's like the death note but cooler... because you don't need their name or face... and also this is a omega multiverse level ability that would beat god and other shonen protags
Appearance: picrel

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But in JoJolion, things happen for the sake of being weird.

Yeah it feels like Araki is trying to make it quirky just for the sake of it. Josuke and Rai somehow parking that car in a tree was perhaps the most obvious example.

There’s no good JoJo porn because it’s a metrosexual series where most of the characters are men with full lips

Year Of The Cat

An automatic stand in the shape of an animal mascot character that eats your food and sleeps in your bed without paying rent. It has no particular power and can be seen by normal people.

King Crimson vs Metallica

Shit

This is how you know someone's baiting

I was thinking of that while writing my post lol. In previous parts, Araki would've atleast given an explanation, but he didn't even bother to say some bullshit reason.

Autonomous Stands are usually spirit robots like Black Sabbath or Born this Way. It's about figuring out what makes them target you.

I guess instead of "autonomous", I should've said "sentient"

I think saying calamity had an effect on him to attack her isn't really a stretch especially considering previous volumes spells it out that the family breaking up was casued by calamities.
Yasuho also pretty much says that he is having a mental breakdown too.
Calamity works on things that are probable. Mitsuba says this clearly in that "you can see what happenes as a possible misfortune happening or as a stand attack"
Overall what I'm trying to say is I think calamity had an effect on his actions being for the worst for Yasuho. Though I also think it was for the worst and the story would be better of without this shit.

I would allow this stand to attack me.

Hilarious asshole character. Jojo's Master Shake. He's underutilized though, wish he was more involved.

1 hour and already at 400

I see today was an interesting volume kek

the worst thing about part 9 so far is the fact that nearly the entire main cast is male and we won't be getting as much kino doodle porn unless drawanon is really into bbws and lolis or is willing to draw minor characters who show up once
say what you want about part 8 but at least it's arguably the straightest jojo part

Not into Meryl

Or Lulu

Or SEXGONA

just say you're gay bro it's okay it's 2025

Chariot Requiem and Wonder of U + Tooru's Rock/Bug Pokemon were just too gimmicky. Jojo's final fights are best as direct, straightforward confrontations.

Lulu is a semen demon

Sorry, but it's terrible. The entirety of the fight hinges on Risotto being Narancia-tier retarded, and Risotto himself is a non-character (immensely carried by his amazing seiyuu in the anime) which drags down the usual dynamics of villain vs villain battles.

dragona is a man nigga i will always respect his pronouns

Working on a big drawing.

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I wanna lick it

If she wants to be treated like a woman PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
then I'll treat her like a woman PLAP PLAP PLAP SLUUUUUUURP

This part was mediocre because it didn't have any relation to Dio also redrew the scene

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I choose to believe that she's named after that one shitty Lou Reed/Metallica album because it would be funny

Nut King Call is the single most wasted stand in Jojo history. It did nothing.

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Looking forward to it.

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I can only see my proposal () working in part 9.

This was originally supposed to be Josuke's stand

Araki didn't draw a single 1v1 fight with it

What the fuck

Such a cool design, too...

Generic loading screen

Not Paisley Park's own

DIOCULO
Good shit, nigga

Joestars are freed from Dio's curse

But now have to deal with a much worse curse (Higashikata disease, calamity)

It's way too long but I do actually like Wonder of U itself a lot.

Remember the shady aura the higashikata family had in the beginning? I think Araki should have stayed with that. As of now, the CKB arc was pointless. You could scrap it completely

I'm pissed off that Araki didn't have Joshu bolt Yasuho's arm back on.

inb4 you see it melt

I don't give a fuck. This was the only time in the whole series we saw this kind of stand-user damage translation. It's bullshit.

Why are you mad at Yasuho for her mistreatment, if anything you should direct your anger towards Araki. I never understood the hate for Yasuho and I never will. She's not the best character by any means, but during all that torture/misery porn all I could do is just question what the hell Araki's problem was.

I really like your linework in your pics, IRREFUTABLE btw

Parts 4-6 Araki would do crazy shit with its nuts and bolts ability.

Anons are not ready for tomorrow's volume notes...

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Why are you mad at Yasuho for her mistreatment, if anything you should direct your anger towards Araki.

...I am? Do you think I'm actually *literally* mad at Yasuho herself and not Araki for writing Yasuho like this? Come on.

Did Josuke even tell Yasuho that Kei died

Josuke living in a house with a villainous Norisuke, quietly trying to make allies, would've been kino... Once he was retconned to be good, CKB became pure nonsense, as did other scenes like Kei telling Yasuho to not get close to Josuke anymore.

Its the biggest piece of dogshit

Nut King Call is basically a different take on Sticky Fingers.

The fight does a solid job of explaining why Risotto didn't immediately go for the kill shot if you actually paid attention, plus the decision of having Doppio be the underdog is a good one as it highlights how resourceful he is in the way that he pulls off tricks like using the frog to track Risotto down and luring Aerosmith to finish him off. It's a genuinely well constructed fight

Done completely dirty, felt like he was starting to go somewhere at one point then we t back to being underused like the rest of his family.
Him in general still was one of the most entertaining parts, and I like him half because of all the bad shit that happens to him.

Retard here, how did Rai get close to Wonder of U yesterday? When he was 2cm away, then 1cm away.

No intent of pursuit

a railing
a
fucking
railing

But he was trying to get closer wasn't he? That isn't pursuit?

He was intending to save Josuke and just so happened to position himself in front of WoU while doing it

What was even the point of this character?

I really don't see Norisuke turning out to be a good guy as a retcon. All his evil talk was an incredibly obvious red herring to me with how comedically it was executed.

Because it has no explanation. A red herring is fine but you have to actually explain why him wringing his hands while saying "I'll get that darn Josuke, just you wait!" was actually a misunderstanding.

Calamity took a while

I remember there was something about Karera having the same wobbly walking sound effects as WoU. Or something like that it's been years since I read this.

Stand name: Noodles can't be beat

It possesses any kind of noodle and can turn them into razors when either consumed or already in your stomach

Becasue he wanted Kira's memories?

You can ask this about most Higashitas...

And how is killing him going to accomplish that?

>This was originally supposed to be Josuke's stand

We. Were. Robbed.

Lewd..

To be a nice guy

But he initially said Josuke wouldn't get his memories back... And that he wanted to kill Josuke.

Daiya was pointless, we hardly see Josuke interact with the family after shakedown road, so the little plot point about him taking care of was meaningless and added nothing. Josuke telling the truth about him to the family happens off screen as well

I'm pissed he didn't disassemble Jobin's hand to save his dad. I wanted to see the King of Nuts vs. the King of Speed.

Jojolion is a story about breaking a curse.

he was just seething
i mean are you saying that you WOULDNT kill the man who is gonna fuck your daughter?

Josuke should have just been a homeless bum. This was the Higashikatas can stay worthless MOTW jobbers and it would sting less also it'd be funnier.

Imagine if the last volume breaks 3 threads out of pure rage

Being surprised by a father reacting violently to some guy he met a couple of days ago fucking his daughter

If the site didn't die, I imagine the threads would be even worse than Chariot Requiem's.

Norisuke looks like a soft dog by the end of the part.

He wanted Daiya to manipulate Josuke and besides the "kill him" here is obviously a heat of the moment thing not to be taken seriously

He's a good guy, who for some reason gets repeatedly fucked over at almost every point in his life

Someone edit Josuke’s crying face when he’s looking at the picture of shirtless Tooru and Yasuho

Reading this again makes it seem like Araki gave up on JoJolion.

wants his daughter to keep seducing josuke

reiterates he will kill him

also says he will enslave his mind and body first

h-h-he was just an angry dad

Nice try.

I think he said somewhere that Covid lockdowns made him depressed

He was entertaining, which is more than anyone except Tamaki Damo could say

On the off chance Jojolion actually gets adapted in the next decade by David Pro, don’t they usually make decent changes? I remember them restructuring Part 4, but I’m not sure if they did any anime original stuff

I wanna have consensual sex with Yasuho

Wonder of U:

can be seen by normal people

is an elderly that literally works as a doctor and director of a university hospital; goes to funerals on its free time

will get you injured or killed whenever you're approaching or attacking it... unless that's inconvenient for the plot

will get you injured or killed whenever you're THINKING about approaching or attacking it... unless that's inconvenient for the plot

is basically invulnerable, unless spin nonsense happens or its ability doesn't trigger because plot

the three points above also apply to its user

can generate copies of itself with the same abilities near people who already met him just to mess with them

has a seemingly infinite range

can move in a different dimension because... it just can

can persist after its user's death because... it just can

Speaking of its user, Toru:

appears out of nowhere right before the final battle, with not a single hint of his existence prior

is supposed to be the leader of a whole organisation, despite it being completely unreflected in his character and design

is responsible for Josuke's mother's illness

also coincidentally responsible for the death of Rai's father

also coincidentally Yasuho's ex-boyfriend, who he followed her whole life without her noticing for unclear reasons

somehow completely managed to hide his rock human nature and activity in the organisation from Yasuho

meets the protagonist twice then never again

has an unclear goal, barely any personality, and is mostly inactive during his whole appearance

somehow naturally developped one of, if not the most powerful Stand in the series

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Araki himself would have to throw out the whole thing and produce it himself to save Jojolion.

They’re not going to add many or any anime only scenes, it’s too much. They didn’t animate Risotto’s backstory despite Araki writing a whole paragraph about it.

Part 5 had a lot of anime original stuff fleshing out La Squadra, Fugo's backstory and a bit more of Diavolo's like the moment he met Donatella

I missed the Donnie Darko chapter

Aww

Yasuho there are still rocks in your pussy, let me clean them out for you with my hands and tongue

It all went to shit way before covid.

It persists because it isn't his stand but instead a curse that latches onto people it just so happens to mesh well with the parasitic lifestyle of rock humans. It's basically cheap trick requiem

The backstory was redundant anyway, the scenes we did get of him tracking the gang down, as well as the scenes with his team, more than made up for it

"I'll kill him"

"Actually no it'll be fine to make Josuke a slave in body and mind" right after processing things a bit

He cleraly doesn't want to kill him. And there are many ways to interpret his dialoge about Kira. The most probable of them with what we got is him just being depressed about not having kira's work on the disease. But at the time it could have even been interpreted as him not wanting them to come back.

I hate the character of Kaato so much.

Thankfully Yasuho is the official Jobro because Rai would easily be the worst Jobro in all of JJBA.
He is only fun when you are reading with friends or people that can poke fun at his tiresome speeches and annoying attitude, his stand is just worse Stone Free and Oh Lonesome me without any of the cool applications of said stands, his only function is move the plot forward because Araki would rather die than give Yasuho more time with Josuke and use her to progress the plot (that would make her seem competent and smart, and we can't have that on our Rapebait Character)
You know it's bad when people laugh at the character instead of feeling bad for him when he dies

They foreshadowed Kira and added some anime original soul like Morioh radio. In part 6 they made Anasui a man from the beginning. These are minor changes though, I don't know how they can fix part 8. Part 8 has plot points that act as major motivators for an arc then get completely retconned. You can't just change a line of dialogue here and there, you would have to change the entire arc.
For example Kira was supposedly in his apartment a few days before the start of the series, being attacked by Ojiro then he escaped. This is the entire motivation for the Soft & Wet arc, if you say Kira was not there then Yasuho wouldn't see a photo of Kira and run out of the apartment. Naked lady wouldn't recognize him and assume he came back to save her so she wouldn't tell him how the stand works. The entire arc falls apart. But if you don't change the arc, how do you reconcile it with Vitamin C where Kira does not seem on guard at all even though he was supposedly just attacked?

No one...

>has an unclear goal, barely any personality, and is mostly inactive during his whole appearance

This kinda got elaborated this volume.

Would jobsuke job less if he was a girl?

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the crossbow was pretty cool, I really don’t remember anything Mountain Tim related

I Can't Stop Loving You

An automatic Stand that pursues a designated target. The Stand can not be controlled or deactivated by the user until the target is killed. The Stand moves at a consistent speed and will always be slightly faster than the target so escape is impossible. It is completely invincible and those that attack it become brainwashed into also pursuing the target. The Stand's weakness is that it leaves the user completely defenseless and the closer it is to the user the weaker it is, so the user must constantly create distance between themself and the target as well.

detnox-sama...

"Actually no it'll be fine to make Josuke a slave in body and mind" right after processing things a bit

Anon... He says "I'll kill Josuke, but for now, it'll be fine to make Jousuke a slave in both mind and body...". Whatever plans he had, he'd eventually kill Josuke after using him.

there are many ways to headcanon this

Right. Which is why I originally said red herrings are fine, but they need an actual explanation and not headcanon. Why did he want Daiya to keep going and "enslave" Josuke? Was he willing to go that far to gain access to Kira's memory so he can save Tsurugi? Later it seems like he doesn't care about any alternate ways to save Tsurugi, he simply plans to sacrifice himself. He says multiple times to forget about the rokakaka for example. Why did he care about Kira's memory if he was going to ignore alternate methods and sacrifice himself anyway? Any possible explanation of Norisuke's behavior during CKB is just you writing for the author.

He would take a ton more damage like Joblyne (my heroine).

it isn't his stand

Meanwhile many people are convinced that Toru fully controls Wonder of U, and that it's a second identity developed from his desire of recognition.

Rai*

Also Ojiro speedran an investigation in 1 chapter.

I wanna have the Rokakaka and its power to get money and uhh...

Eleven Men...

She should've used Google.

Araki gave up, after Go Beyond Josuke just becomes fucking inmune to that shit and Yasuho just survives the plane door for no fucking reason
Kei made sense, somewhat, she was the reason WoU suffered it's first injury, but even Joshu survives when he shouldn't have and his calamity gets WEAKER instead of stronger (first he loses some fingers and then he gets hit in the head)

Joshu only tried to attack Yasuho when her finger hovered over Kei's contact. She outright said she was going to use the calamity in her favor to know who to call.

Is Yasuho more rapeable than the average woman or is Morioh more rapey than the average town?

femgappy raping a rigger at gunpoint with soft and wet

What type of calamity would befall on you if somehow managed to penetrate Tooru repeatedly until orgasm? ?

she was the reason WoU suffered it's first injury

No she wasn't. Born this Way helped Josuke's bubble hit WoU, but her own attack didn't do anything to him.

Yasuho is genuinely repulsive. Those anons who would rather fuck her stand are on the right path.

Look at how much Yasuho was tormented, fem-Gappy would have it even worse.

I'd rather have her as a girlfriend than have some useless cunt named Yasuho

She isn't, but she has the agency of a block of wood, so whatever.

「Cool&Create」
A long range stand with no power, speed, or accuracy. The stand can't interact with anything physical and only exists as software, in exchange for this it can manipulate software as long as it is stored in a electronic device, it also can jump to different devices using the internet.
When the user activates it anymore looking at a screen depicting an image of Cool&Create will copy whatever action the stand is performing or commanding.
This action will be engraved in the target's mind unable to be forgotten, and whenever the stand activates everyone with an engraved action will repeat said action as many times as the user activates the ability.

The user is a bugman OL who uses her stand as a Vtuber persona and with it's ability forces all her subscribers to donate money to her.

And Josuke can't suffer calamity for this attack because his bubbles are non existent, therefore the only action there was Kei blowing the bubbles towards him.
How can BtW move non existent bubbles? Who knows...

makes you infected with the virus that draws calamity to you