Hunter x Hunter

I don't even understand what you want to discuss here. HxH isn't seinen, it's shonen pushed to its absolute breaking point.

No one actually thinks hxh is seinen. It's just a cope by anitubers who want to sound intellectual

But what way is it pushing it to its absolute breaking point. I’m not even saying seinen is better than shonen or anything, but Hunter is just shonen based writing.

No one is reading comic books to read a novella you dumb faggot.

Hmm HxH is still aimed at kids at the end of the day, delivering political intrigue story with mostly implicit rather than explicit information wouldn’t be a good play

But what way is it pushing it to its absolute breaking point

In some ways it's literal, for example the boat arc arbitrarily introduces the most characters ever in an arc to arbitrarily break a record. In other ways it's more nuanced subversions and deconstructions of standard shonen tropes, such as Gon's morality being that of a naive child and blowing up in his face, whereas if he were a Goku or a Luffy, things would have all just conveniently worked out. There are other elements, like really pushing the limits of the amount of political intrigue a 10 year old Japanese kid can keep track of, or testing the limits of what can be considered kid friendly like having an antagonist be a morally grey serial rapist. The end result is a schizophrenic mess of really cool ideas. I could really get into this and talk about it for hours, but as we're in the middle of a hiatus I'd rather people move on and read other things. Usogui, for example, is a great manga with a lot of similarities to hxh, but actually seinen.

Is it really for kids? Adults constantly complain about not understanding shit or reading the text being too much. Kids would insanity blank out, unless kids have better attention span than adults.

If Hunter was seinen we’d lose the aspects that make the succession war so interesting, which is the power struggle autism that stems from battle Shonen. There’s no seinen with the fun scheming of succession wars imo, you can see in how the plays in Usogui are much more “plot driven”, which is more of a seinen

Is this projection

Wordcel x Wordcel

There’s no seinen with the fun scheming of succession wars imo

Kingdom does sometimes

Nope. Just look at previous threads during chapter releases over the years, or even anti Succession war discussion.. Retards questions and people complaining. They can’t all be kids, and if adults struggle, kids have it even worse.

Did some new chapters release recently? When should I join back in and reread the entire arc so I know what's going on again?

Aren't "shonen" and "seinen" artificial separations invented by Americans, when the reality is that a manga can appear in a shonen magazine, which implies it's oriented towards young boys, or it can appear in a seinen magazine, which implies it's oriented towards teenage boys and young men. There are manga that have appeared in shonen magazines and then gone on to be published in seinen magazines. It's a loose categorization based on what the likely target audience is given the initial magazine it's published in is.

Depends on what you mean by recently, we got a batch last year that finished in late December iirc. We have no idea when Togashi will be back. Until then, Pretend this series doesn’t exist until a new chapter comes. When the series is on hiatus Hunter discussion is dead on this site outside of every blue moon (with half being bait threads). And unless you know jap there’s no other active worthwhile place to discuss the series. You’ll know the series is back through word of mouth jump discussions, or subscribing to Shonen jump, or following Togashi/Hunter twitter.

I used to really love HxH and then I read more manga.

I still love hxh

It was the opposite for me. Or other way around. I only read Hunter recently after reading manga of all demographics for almost 20 years. I wouldn’t say it’s my favorite or the best manga but I’d put it next to any action manga of any demographic. The series also has enough autism imbued to make it remind me of more off beat manga despite being a mainstream battle Shonen.
My biggest critique is fucking greed island and heavens arena is mediocre as shit.

For every big text heavy page there's a full-on "show don't tell" page with almost no words

Not quite, not only are you playing to a demographic, but also within a weekly publication, which create restrictions and influence a work, similar to how using charcoal to draw instead of watercolor paints can influence a style. Bastard!! for example greatly changed when it swapped publications.

A little too much Shoujo and Josei disrespect

As the only person on Anon Babble who reads Yona I am the sole person on this board actually knowledgable of shojo and not just pretending. Most shojo discussed here is simply garbage.

I've come to enjoy Greed Island even if it is like a filler arc / training arc, but it's similar to how video games in your own life are mostly filler

HxH is sort of like Evangelion where the characters stand there and tell you in no uncertain terms what the messages/themes of the story are but somehow the vast majority of the audience still doesn't get it

I just feel like it’s wasted. There’s 0 reason Togashi couldn’t have made the greatest video game arc of all time that shits on any isekai/rpglit manga. But instead he Purposefully made it feel like a training arc. There’s 0 chance greed island arc is the best we get if you put a gun to Togashi’s head and told him to write an amazing video game arc. But if you told him make a “Shonen crime thriller” and “fantasy sci fi invasion” or you die, yorknew and chimera ant I could easily see being made the same. You see what I’m getting at?

The average American adult reads at an 8th grade reading level (13-14 years old). America making up the largest demographic of EOP's in the world and especially the internet.
The shonen demographic ranges from ages 12 to 18, although I've seen it defined as low as 9 and as high as 21.
Couple this with the fact that this is a Japanese story being translated into English, this inherently nerfs reading comprehension, so we can actually assume that every EOP reader is equivalently a grade level or two lower when reading it.
With that in mind, it makes perfect sense that there are so many adults who are struggling to understand this story that Japanese teenagers don't have trouble with.

You can argue the same with heavens arena because certainly we’ve seen Togashi do “battle tournament” better before. But it makes sense why heaven arena is a training arc. Not only in placement but in length. It’s right after the introductory arc, and very short.
Meanwhile greed island was the second longest arc before succession war, and sandwiched between two amazing arcs.
It feels like Togashi purposefully took his foot on the gas and just said “ya know what, I’ll keep it chill this time aorund”, when he should be putting everything into every arc.

Greed Island is unironically probably the most important arc when it comes to expanding upon the nen system in relation to this current succession arc

I don’t doubt that. I’m saying Togashi could’ve done that while making ithe arc more interesting and entertaining.

It feels like Togashi purposefully took his foot on the gas and just said “ya know what, I’ll keep it chill this time aorund”, when he should be putting everything into every arc

He actually did keep up that intensity with the dodgeball match and Razor essentially being the final boss of the game, problem is Genthru's team added a dirty human element to the arc that wasn't intended as part of the game. I really don't understand why you people enjoy the Phantom Troupe so much yet hate on Genthru's team, they're both just murdering thieves

dodgeball match

Loved it but it’s only one part of the arc. Genthru team basically feels like whatever until the final confrontation, they’re just too disconnected.
Others have said it before but the arc feels too much like Togashi just wanted to make a “video game intro” instead of a full fledged video game arc

Gon vs Genthru is a very based fight btw

Makes more sense to pivot into chimera ant I guess

Also I’d be cool with Genthru team feeling disconnected if they were super interesting in their own right, like say, the troupe during the chimera ant arc or the succession war where they get their own pov moments.
ALSO Togashi’s side character game was at its weakest during greed island. The average succession war shitter is more interesting than 95% if greed island characters

Video games are kind of meant to be disposable so I do appreciate a little bit how the series just moves on from GI
I have not been a big gamer in recent decades but I do remember as a kid the amount of video games I'd get, play for a few weeks, and then never play again

Is that the real Gon?