Are elves supposed to be Vegans?

make friends with small animals

She called a rat a dumb animal once

What’s the difference between wood elves, dryads and fairies?

I prefer Tolkien elves.
I think the Japanese have bastardized elves a bit too much.

the idea that elves are some sort of tree-hugging hippies comes from dungeons and dragons nerds. read silmarillion.

I’d say Tolkien elves have that ubermensch/higher being look while japs are best at capturing the beauty of elves (they just understand aesthetics in general). Meanwhile DnD elves look like ugly aliens

I prefer Tolkien elves.

I'm playing Elder Scrolls 4 and kind of like the setting of the game where the ancient elves are very evil.
The Ayleids are a group of evil slavers who are not only ugly, but also like to slave humans. Torturing humans and enjoying their pain.
This eventually leads to a massive rebellion of humans and the eventual building of the human empire.

ubermensch/higher

Traditionally, this is understood to mean that elves are non-human and that the race as a whole is extremely beautiful.
Each one is beautiful to the highest standards of humanity. And elves think very differently than humans because of their long lifespans.
Japan, on the other hand, just sets elves up to be long-eared douchebags with no essential difference between them and humans other than a long lifespan.

Most vegans eat food that only exists because of tilled fields or even factories and could never be found in the woods

japs are best at capturing the beauty of elves

jap elves are literally just pointy eared people with slightly more colorful eyes

Elves are supposed to be "carnists", the opposite of vegans. Realistically, the diet of an elf would overwhelmingly be composed of meat. Why is that? Because only plantations can provide enough plant-based food to feed a large population. But plantations require destruction of natural ecosystems, such as burning down the woods to be replaced with fields. This is exactly what happened in England and why it looks like a green Sahara now. If there's anything elves cannot stand in all portrayals, it's the destruction of nature. Therefore, they would resort to animal husbandry and hunting as their main sources of nutrition. Without a question, they would also gather some fruits, berries and nuts to supplement their diet, but there wouldn't even be bread in it unless they have breadfruit trees (and even then it wouldn't be plentiful).

but there wouldn't even be bread in it unless they have breadfruit trees (and even then it wouldn't be plentiful).

Aha!
That's why in so many fantasy stories, elves always live with sacred trees.
Because the god tree's would give the elves food and shelter.

The tree is their deity/idol, not their source of sustenance. It's true to life, there's still pagans in northern Russia worshipping holy trees.

Farmers are typically friendly towards their livestock

This. Happy livestock gives tastier egg, milk and meat.

In the first place, shouldn't vegans aim to consume 100% synthetic food instead of aiming for plants? Bugs and small animals die to grow these. Even putting that aside, if you're abstaining from eating brainless oysters on moral grounds, it's inconsistent to think of an equally brainless plant as food.

it's the destruction of nature

While we're at it, a minority of vegans advocate for a complete removal of predators from the ecosystem by converting them into herbivores.

Don't try to understand the broken minds of hypersheltered westoids.

wood elf

Literally just a forest hunter. You think that Legolas is an expert marksman with a bow and arrow because he has to go out and shoot nuts and berries off of tree?

dryad

A plant spirit tied to a specific magical tree/forest, who cannot leave it. From greek myth, but if in the same setting as fairies would effectively just be a kind of fey in the same way that fey and yokai are effectively the same things from different cultures.

fairies

Magical beings that live where humans do not, which often have a childish and petty personality and no concern over human morals. They can be helpful because they like you, or they can be cruel because they find it funny, or they can do what they THINK is helping but is actually horrible and not understand why you're mad.

sex with elves

Language. And region. No other major difference.

They don't kill, but they can eat dead meat. They're kind of like vultures.

Fucking elves keep stealing my mcdonalds while acting morally superior for not "supporting the killing of animals".

I've only seen it in a few obscure Anon Babble settings. Tolkien's certainly weren't, and I've never heard of any traditional stories that suggest such a thing.

ITT: Anon Babbleays strictly rationalising and classifying imaginary magical races

stealing my mcdonalds

They're doing you a favour.

So they don't eat meat.

Or should elves eat meat like humans?

Well most elves love human meat, if you know what I mean wink wink

Fuck you elf

They are truly cancer.

only good elf is a dead elf and thats a FACT!

You're german, aren't you?

Even as someone who has autism, I can't understand the taxonomical obsession that Anon Babble has with fantasy races. Like the whole 'wyvern vs dragon' shitposting that we had for like a year, with people arguing about numbers of legs and shit considering that real worm mythology is *full* of dragons that don't conform to the taxonomical models that nerds try to enforce.
I have to assume that its a control thing, nerds who are big into fantasy trying to assert themselves as the 'authority' on genre tropes as if their opinion matters and everyone else has to treat it as gospel.

its a control thing, nerds who are big into fantasy trying to assert themselves as the 'authority' on genre tropes as if their opinion matters and everyone else has to treat it as gospel.

Nail on the head.

Vegans are just larpers who do shit to make themselves feel good.

Actual animal rights people refuse to eat factory farmed shit but dont have a problem with eating meat in general if it was hunted.

lots of fantasy settings do that treehugger stuff, but it does raise the question, how the hell would elves also be skilled bowmen if they're not hunting?

...perhaps...

They hunt the most difficult sport of all… man.

Elves are sneaky fuckers that live long, ideally they'd run the underworld.

Honestly, considering their long lives and generally high physical and magical abilities? Its *really* hard to justify elves not just absorbing and replacing human nobility.

Look at it this way: most monarchies have to invoke some flimsy logic of special lineage that traces back to some distant divine right of kinghood. Its why they get to be king, and you don't. Thats a LOT easier to sell when the noble class is clearly of a different bloodline to the common folk entirely, and is *clearly* better than you in easily verifiable ways. Have a counter argument? Lets wait 80 years and then I'll listen to what you have to say.

Even if the kingdom starts as human, the moment anyone intermarries with an elf its all over. The elves just live longer, completely fucking with lines of succession because its trivial for an elf to end up with a strong blood tie to whoever the fuck as time goes on. The more elves or half elves end up in the mix, the more dominant they become in the noble hierarchy because the humans die off and the elves don't. And once you have an elvish king? Thats it, its over, short of an assassination you'll never see a human king again because that elf can outlive your entire kingdom as a nation.

intermarries with an elf

thats a paddling

It's even worse with elves that are depicted as being biologically immortal. At that point they should be revered as living gods amongst mortal folk.

Yeah, obviously the stronger and more magical your elves are, the more they get treated like demigods. A belief that would be very easy for them to foster and they don't really have any incentive to dispute.
Unless there are REAL gods in the setting who will take offense to the elves playing pretender, the elves have no reason not to let the humans worship them. It only makes things easier for them.

Its hard to even put forth an argument to the elves as to why they shouldn't rule. How do you argue that you would lead better than someone who has been practicing statecraft for hundreds of years? Unless your kingdom is actively falling apart as a result of their actions, they can simply dismiss your position as being naive and childish and appeal to their own authority with casual ease.

Honestly, considering their long lives and generally high physical and magical abilities? Its *really* hard to justify elves not just absorbing and replacing goblin chieftains.

Look at it this way: most tribes have to invoke some flimsy logic of special breed that traces back to some distant divine right of might cheiftainhood. Its why they get to be chieftain, and you don't. Thats a LOT easier to sell when the chieftain class is clearly of a different bloodline to the common gobs entirely, and is *clearly* better than you in easily verifiable ways. Have a counter argument? Lets wait 80 years and then I'll listen to what you have to say.

Even if the tribe starts as goblin, the moment anyone interbreeds with an elf its all over. The elves just live longer, completely fucking with lines of succession because its trivial for an elf to end up with a strong blood tie to whoever the fuck as time goes on. The more elves or half elves end up in the mix, the more dominant they become in the goblin hierarchy because the goblins die off and the elves don't. And once you have an elvish hobgoblin? Thats it, its over, short of an assassination you'll never see a goblin king again because that hob can outlive your entire kingdom as a nation.

Even if we said Elves don't eat woodland critters, why would that apply to farm animals like cows?

Value the life of animals who have limited uses

Kill humans who can do many MANY things especially as a group

Vegan logic truly is unfathomable.

If they are one with nature, they know the circle of life. They feed on the animals and plants and then provide to the land afterwards, perpetuating the circle. Not eating animals is as stupid as not growing new trees.

raise chickens

provide them with adequate housing, food, medical care and protection

take eggs as a payment

somehow, im literally Hitler

meat is supposedly spiritualy corruptive, , well atleast with modern food all the toxic additives will rot your soul. In my opinon no thye shouldnt eat meat

meat is supposedly spiritualy corruptive

Depends on a culture. One of my friends in college was half-mongolian and he told me a lot of their stories and beliefs, pretty crazy stuff. Like, how they used to eat their horses with whom they grew up, because "leaving your favourite horse to die is disrespectful". Or how they had no word for "medium weight" as in, something is either light or heavy. I think the more interesting topic was our discussion of Evil and such, because mongolian view of evil is very simple: evil is subjective and it can be summarized as "anything bad done". If an apple falls from a tree and hits your head, in their language calling this apple evil is valid. Same with animals and forces of nature.

Orcs

Have you seen Eminence in Shadow? It's about elves running the underworld...

Destroy ecosystems to feed the entire vegan populace

I am saving the world

What should be done about elven racetraitors?

Elves don’t have the ambition and drive to do stuff like that. And the ones that do simply don’t want to associate with b*orcs.

i wonder if most half-elves feel salty about getting fucked out of a large chunk of their potential lifespan thanks to their mixed-blood

encouragement and commemoration

I share my region with actual mongolian people and they're nothing like you described
He was showing off

Vegans think that all domestic animals should be re-wilded.

Well, the emphasis is on "used to". A lot has changed, people don't even remember what clan they belong to.

with their tight pussies

according to who? the synthetic vegans begotten by anthropomorphic cartoons and urban enviroments?

Japan needs more proper elves.

Elves should eat ONLY meat because they consider plants sacred.

Anon they are all the same beings
That's what they get right

You don't even know what a proper elf is

wood elves

Not a real thing

with high elves

Not a real thing

with dryads

Same thing as elf

with fairies

Same thing as elf

For all their faults, at least naro sloppers aren't trying to build some kind of unnatural schizohierarchy of elves.

No, half-elves live longer

Animals eat other animals
Get over it

Not only dnd
It's a general misinterpretation stemming from their deep knowledge about the natural world and foreign technical capabilities over the natural world

no essential difference between them and humans other than a long lifespan

This is more accurate than you think

Circle of life, motherfuckers. Watch the Lion King. The greatest crime against the natural order of things is to NOT eat your prey.

The tree is their deity/idol

Completely and utterly wrong

Complete and utter shitpost

yokai and yosei have the same "yo", and the sei in yosei and seirei is the same, but it isn't the same sei used for saints

that's how they were in the LOTR movies

Not exactly an imaginary magical race, but still it's fucking funny with everyone disagreeing and trying to pass off their headcanons as the one true way to characterize an elf

Elves eat meat in LOTR so anything else is post-Tolkien wackiness that applies on a per-franchise basis. Considering how pretty well-integrated and common elves are in most fantasy series, especially in manga and anime, it'd be weirder if they didn't share dietary habits with other sapient races.

Mythological elves ate meat as well. They specifically demanded sacrifices of livestock and game, actually.

Elves eat Japanese cuisine.

yeah hackson was a hack. no wonder japs based their entire idea off the movies and dungeons and dragons. they are bug people who lack nuance.

Elves are the master race so they should be allowed to eat any other creature.

All these stuff you guys are discussing it already happened in mythological human history

True.

How do they get it in isekai?

See, this is why you need an isekaijin who would save the elvenkind from starvation by introducing white rice and onions sauce and get the princess' hand in marriage as a reward.

Nobody here cares about mythological elves
They only care about their fantasy headcanons they built from books that borrowed just the name of elves

i can't believe that fucktarded wordfilter hasn't been removed yet

or maybe they don't want ugly elves
western artists are obsessed with nuance, and all their characters end up looking like either caricatures or overly detailed

Hmm, maybe I should buy a copy of Unicorn Overlord.

Look you're right but let's be real pretty much all of contemporary fantasy since the 20th century is either Tolkien-derived or making conscious efforts to maneuver around him.
Especially stuff as derivative and boilerplate as fantasy LNs

it was french cuisine btw

japs are capable of superficial aesthetics but you can't really expect a good story out of them. and no i'm not gonna defend western artists, you're the one who brought that topic up.

Does this still work? Onions

if you're going to criticize something then at least bring up good examples

you can also emulate the switch version on PC
but yeah it's a good game and there are several elves you can marry

why not frieren? like most manga it starts out with a decent premise but the mangaka ends up milking it for all its worth till the story turns into generic shonen. good, self-contained stories that don't overstay their welcome always surprise me in manga. even death note far overstayed its welcome.

wood elves with high elves

things absolutely no one, NO one wanted

Que?

marie is eating foie gras

I meant good examples

My bad.

Japanese elves suck. Western elves suck. What elves do you like?

Silmarillion elves.

let me guess, you're one of those people who cries about human male x elf female relationships, even though silmarillion is full of them

You don't know shit

Vietnamese.

No I don't lmao. Beren was a hero, and so was Tuor.