Are people who are melting down over Lazarus forgetting Watanabe has always been progressive? Hell we even had kannazuki no miko, gits 2, samurai 7 the exact same year as this...and Gankotsuou.
Sorry. Anime was gay before western media.
Are people who are melting down over Lazarus forgetting Watanabe has always been progressive...
Homosexuality is Japanese tradition. Lesbianism is western degeneracy though
And Utena existed too. Motoko. Bible thumping Christians discovering anime was the worst thing for this community
Oh right forgot to post it
Mangaka Chiho Saito cockblocked Ikuhara from making Utena/Anthy canon in the TV show because lesbianism is immoral and a bad example for girls
That's right, it was those damned black ships that infected the islands with the gay and that's why Yamamoto-sama had to bomb Pearl Harbor
Japan was never okay with homosexuality. Once again, like all western retards, you are confusing fiction with reality. It appears in their children cartoon, so it must be they are okay with it!
You think because Japan includes it in fiction, its an endorsement or an acceptance of it in real life. What a fucking joke. Only Westerners see fiction like that because they cannot segregate fiction from reality. Hence, GTA is violence, drawings are in fact, living breathing children, and themes in a show are endorsements to manifest something in real life. The US media had no homosexuals in its children cartoons in the 90s, and yet, the US was disgustingly tolerant of homosexuality, and as posts like show, this tolerance of homosexuality is explicitly tie to a hatred of Westerners and Europeans, hence the attack on Christians.
In 90s USA, you can walk down the streets of San Francisco and be a disgusting person. The same wasn't, and still isn't, true in Japan.
Japan was never okay with homosexuality
I guess you never heard of Shudo, the art of loving boys
Boy that was a lot of words to say you're mad.
Well, Class S born from Japanese girls reading Anne of the Green Gables and Little Women so yeah, the black ships brought lesbianism to Japan. Meanwhile homosexuality is the soul of bushido and bushido is the soul of Japan
Given how fake Yasuke or homosexuality in ancient greece has been, I wonder if its the same case here too.
Class S born from Anne of the Green Gables and Little Women
Wait, really?
Yeah. Of course it was one of the major factors. Another was Mori Ogai introducing Japan to the concept of love after learning it on Germany, what made many Japanese young girl wishing to experiment this new feeling known as love but young boys were too busy preparing to serve the empire and women were too insignificant to get man's attention besides sex anyway so they went with other women, even if it was explicit that it was going to be temporary
Found the Christian who doesn't watch anything besides moeslop and isekai.
Graviation would have never been allowed on US TV in 2000.
You're blowing my mind right now. I'll have to read up on this.
You literally cannot segregate fiction from reality and you know I'm right. It doesn't just apply to people whining about fanservice of underage girl. It applies to everything westerners, because you think something being aired on US TV means society does or does not accept something. How ridiculous too, as if the subject matter was somehow banned on US televisions, and not that fact that no channel would have aired, Graviation because no one in the West gave a fuck about animation that wasn't focused on a kid's property that could make them money. Like what, you think Cartoon Network Toonami or Adult Swim block was gonna air it, the few places in US TV that even aired anime? What, you think they would have aired it even if they wanted too?
You also cannot accept the fact that being an open homosexual was for more tolerated in the US then in Japan. Or do you think you could be a open homosexuals in the streets of Tokyo the same way you could in the streets of any large metropolis in the USA in the same time period?
Watanabe has always been a massive westaboo. His last series was a shitty anime based off of American Idol. It was so bad i dropped it. What a awful shit Carole & Tuesday was.
Annoying Christian melting down because his cartoons aren't the right wing fantasies he thought they were.
You absolutely can be an open homosexual in Tokyo lmao.
I'm telling you Bible thumpers were melting down over Broke back mountain in 2005.
You'd have regarded anime as fag shit in in the 2000s lol
You need to slow down and proofread your english because that word soup is indecipherable.
japs have always been gay. Trannies aren't real
Funny, your inability to segregate fantasy from reality is probably genetic, maybe the result of almost a thousand of peasants being selected to believe that some book was the literal truth of the universe.
Now, I guess you do it with any type of book these days. But you spend your time despising every pillar that Western society stands. Japan just has a better way of dealing with you because the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.
Like I said. Bible thumpers discovering anime was the worst thing to happen to anime.
They generally only like slop.
You're not wrong, but there's no reason to believe that's his justification. He could belong to any number of people who have a motive to rewrite history.
Classic Japanese writers like Ihara Saikaku wrote extensively about men fucking boys. The only reason why Japan banned homosexuality was because it was a mental illness in the west. Hell, even the jesuits, the first Europeans to visit Japan, were horrified by the daimyos having boys
funny that japan historically didn't mind homosexuality, and it was only because of western influence it ever swung another way
puritan tradfags coping as usual, western gaijins are a cancer as usual
Uh, no you couldn't be an open homosexual in Tokyo. They didn't even have legal protections the way being a annoying loser in US cities would have. In Tokyo, in the 90s, you absolutely could fire someone for being an open homosexual inappropriately at a job. Unfortunately, Americans in the 90s didn't have this type of protection.
Not only is he wrong, you are the one trying to rewrite history and use your inability to segregate fiction from reality to latch onto Japanese creation and then use them to project and enforce your pet agendas in real life. I mean, you think a bunch of children cartoons means acceptance of it in society. Same logic as their children cartoon had a lot of pervy jokes about sexually assaulting girls, so I guess they must do it alot in real life.
nice filename you dumb nigger
just like the west you are going to find some people that like fags and some that don't. Pretending it was a utopia for fags before the white people came is stupid.
You're the only one babbling about cartoons. Real life samurai fucked boys. This is a very well documented fact.
Europeans also discovered Afghan bachi bazi traditions of dollying up and assaulting little boys and it wasn't until Western influence until Afghanistan legally banned it, I guess Afghanistan was actually a progressive society.
The problem is you're seeing homosexuality under modern lenses. For starters, homosexuality is a recent concept and entirely western. Men fucked other men in the butt and didn't see themselves as homosexuals. They saw themselves as men. Homosexuality was an act, not an identity. Samurais fucked boys but they married women and had children. Modern Japanese homosexuals just follow the tradition by forming families and conforming to societal rules.
Gay rights are a derivate from liberal values, I don't mean tumblr shit but the values from the Enlightment that put emphasis on individual rights like the pursuit of happiness. Japan doesn't grasp the concept, they follow Confucianism and the most important thing is to conform to collectivity
Another stupid bait thread with this shitty topic?
The most popular people in Japanese history, the Shinsengumi, had homosexuals in it
Have you watched Gohatto? It's pretty great and it's about that
Beat Takeshi and Asano
Downloading right now
Was Mappa woke? CSM isn't censored from manga spite Nakayama was shit.
Is not so much about that specific director being a progressive as much as the whole anime industry feeling globohomo slop undistinguishable from any other Netflix show with all the characters race-swapped, retarded male lead, girlbosses, and Californian dialogue totally focused on the zero life-experience from urbanites who live in a bubble totally disconnected from reality.
Lazarus is just the confirmation that the anime industry as a whole is a corpse that is raiding the good will of the 90s and 00s people had for anime. Down to the endlessly soulless remakes to try and gather a bit of the spark they had. Hell, Lazarus itself is trying to ride the cocktails of Cowboy Bebop, they're using the same setup, the same character cast composition, even the same the same style of poster and same music style. The difference is that Cowboy Bebop had beautiful hand-drawn backgrounds, natural but not over-the-top animation, credible characters like Spike with credible conflicts. Now we have some retard jumping through roofs, a girlboss granny, token character and a bunch of fucking underages with the most nonsensical plot ever that the world collapsed thanks to an analgesic.
It's pathetic, but also sad. Looking that veterans of the industry watched this absolute slop and said "hell yeah, let's put on air (stream) this piece of garbage and put my name on it!" speaks of how fucking bad things are. People watched anime to run away from how shitty Western entertainment and art was, but now we're seeing the hollywodification of anime in real time and is disheartening.
the whole anime industry feeling globohomo slop undistinguishable from any other Netflix show with all the characters race-swapped, retarded male lead, girlbosses, and Californian dialogue totally focused on the zero life-experience from urbanites who live in a bubble totally disconnected from reality.
What? How much anime do you watch?
Enough to know that anime has gone down the shitter in the last 10 years, and the process as accelerated tremendously in the last 5 to the point is becoming unrecognizable for anyone who was raised watching anything made before the 2010s, which I think is the majority of this board.
What a moronic wall of drivel
Toonami was a fucking mistake, how do we make these retards go away
ride the cocktails
This is the cherry on top of the shit sundae that is your post.
It's not toonami. Most Americans fans in their mid late 30s had their toonami phase.
This dude probably didn't watch anime past that. Missed the entire fansub era. And started to watch a few subbed anime once it was accessible on netflix.
This hardline 2d/3d segregation is nonsense believed by idiots.
Being a progressive twenty years ago is in no way the same thing as being one today. The contents of so called progressivism have shifted dramatically over the years and it doesn't speak in favor of Watanabe that he's happily sliding down the slippery slope to the bitter end.
You might have a point but a lot of these people melting down atm were not anime fans 20 years ago. All the more pathetic if they are over 30 and doing this.
My man. Broke back Mountain was getting protests in the US in 2005.
You think they'd be watching Gankotsuou? The Bible thumpers?
Stop acting like you have authority to tell who is who here like if you were a Reddit mod.
Lazarus is dogshit and not because of the woke content
Are you a Bible thumper?
Probably missed the fansub era
What are you getting at? It's not difficult at all to watch Gankotsuou and allow for some homo subtext as long as it isn't detrimental to the overall experience, yet still turn your nose up at overt DEI slop soapboxing about the current day liberal's pet issues.
You can do this in 2025.
In the 2000s when Gankotsuou aired. Bible Thumpers were just a few years removed of being afraid of Harry Potter.
I'm saying. These people are "new" anime fans. They're the "tourists" that they scream at everyone for being.
Yep, found the plebbitor
Found the guy who only started watching only AFTER the attack on titan anime aired.